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Good morning, guys. I'm waiting for Simon to pull up. I just DM'd with him. We're gonna talk about the tariffs. Right now, I feel like there's a whole lot of, I don't know, pom poms in the air.
Everybody's like, yeah, Trump. More tariffs, please. I'm like, what the fuck? What reality am I in right now? I'm so glad Simon has made himself available, to break it down.
But, guys, I need you to do me a favor. Please repost the space. This is important. I did a whole bunch of, I sent you the cohost, Simon. I don't know if you got it.
But I just I did a, you know, I I did a little bit of a compare and an analysis because everybody that thinks that the tax cuts are gonna offset this impact, think again. Well, it depends on what bracket you're in. But even then, we've we've now kind of, we I don't know. I don't I don't think that's gonna happen. But, Simon, oh my god.
Welcome. Thank you so much for coming. Give us your breakdown. Let's, like, kind of just look at the tariffs alone, and then let's look at the tax cuts supposedly alone and, you know, how this is supposed to be helping American people. Make it make sense if you can.
Over to you. Okay, Mays. Do you wanna do you wanna just do ten minutes of audience first? Build up a bit of audience because I just gotta do something quickly. Yeah.
Yeah. That's cool. All the opinions. I'll be listening in in the background, and then I'll come in and give some deeper analysis. Is that cool?
Yes. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. Great.
Because then that that I can kinda run some of the stuff that, I've looked up. I see Hawes is here. I sent him the invite. Oh, doctor Farrow, Angel Tate, some of my favorite faces in here. Okay.
So and if you guys wanna come up or if you have any insight on this, then by all means, please, request. But I will say that I just did a little bit of of research because when I looked into the tax cut thing that the income tax cuts, unless I'm missing something, which is very possible. It's very possible. But, I would like to go over my findings. What did I just do with my other phone?
Hold on. I have it in my notes. But but, basically, it's my understanding that he's gonna extend what was in two oh, here it is. What was in 02/2017, those tax cuts. And in addition to that, he is going to, basically take away income taxes on the tips earned.
So if you're in the service industry hold on. Here it goes. Let's see. Middle income earners. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Alright. Consideration. Okay.
So, yeah, basically, if you earn tips so the low income people are going to absorb a majority of what I and this is my opinion. I can't wait to get Simon's. But, basically, they're gonna absorb all of the impact because all the necessities that we, like, need in order to exist, those are gonna go up. Right? And if you're living from paycheck to paycheck, you can't even really buy in bulk.
And so those people are gonna feel the hit. Those people are the least impacted unless they're getting tips. Okay? They're the least impacted by the tax cuts. Who's the most impacted by the tax cuts?
The top 1%. The top 1% of high income earners are the ones who are going to benefit. They benefited significantly more both in absolute terms and as a percentage of income. For instance, the top 1% of earners received an average tax cut of about $61,090 equating up to, like, 2.9 increase of, in the after tax income. So so now the bottom hold on.
So initially, the low income earners experienced modest benefits. This was when he first implemented what he wants to get extended, except it diminished over time. By 2027, many in the low income tax group, see tax increases due to the expiration of the certain provisions. So if I understand this correctly, the top 1% wins because they generally okay. So in order to fit in that category, you get you you have to make $682,000 a year.
What? Like, okay. Anyway, so then let's go down to the perceptions of well, okay. So now I this is this is me doing a couple of different, you know, this was chat GPT, Grok, and then I kind of compiled it all. So let's talk about the inflation, consumer prices.
Like, people, I swear to god, it it's you know? This is not good for the American people. There's no way that you can slice it, dice it, flip it, paint it, color it. I I really think it's important to get real about this, guys. I'm gonna be impacted by this.
Right? I think the average person that works extremely hard and let's just say, you know, you're a little bit kind of you're making ends meet. You know? I think that this is gonna make it very difficult for those people. You know?
Me, my category of people. Even the ones that are comfortable, are gonna find it to where they're just stretching to be able to make ends meet. Even, like, let's just say, the the very wealthy, the top 1%. Let's see. So this group will experience the effects of increased prices.
Their higher disposable income allows for greater absorption of these costs. However, they may face losses in investment portfolios due to the market volatility. Middle income earners are affected by increased prices. Households may have slightly more flexibility to adjust their spending. However, they remain vulnerable to job losses, particularly if employed in the industries impacted by the tariffs, such as manufacturing and agriculture.
And then the low income earners, this group is expected to bear the heaviest burden due to the regressive nature of tariffs with a significant portion of their income dedicated to essential goods. The rising prices will strain their already limited budgets, potentially leading to difficult choices between basic needs. So, guys, thanks for coming. We have the amazing legendary Simon Dixon here. He's gonna kind of help break this down.
Do me a favor. Please repost the space and and get your peoples in here so we could talk about it. And whenever you are ready, Simon just will holler. But I did wanna say hi to Hippie and Prometheus. Are you guys over there with pom poms cheering on this tariff war?
What's going on? I just I, I just wanted to be able to have a real conversation. Oh, John's here. Let me invite him up. You know, all the pictures are all over here.
Yes, ma'am. And, thank you, Mays. Hey. Good morning, Mays. And this is a great space so far.
I'm gonna invite, economic, person who's, who's very familiar with this, and, hopefully, he comes in here. His name is, Econ Circus, and he works for The Muse. The he's one of the top, writers for that. So I'm gonna see if he can come in here, but great space so far. I'd I'd right away, I reposted it right away.
So much love always. Amazing. I appreciate you. You're always so supportive, Hippie. Always so kind.
Thank you so much. Always. Hi, John. Rand, Adele, Prometheus. Simon's wrapping up some things, and we're about to dive in.
I just kinda went over some of my preliminary, chat GPT searches. And I, you know, if you guys wanna chime in, go ahead, Adele. Good morning. I love your space. I love your enthusiasm and all of I feel like even with, like, this topic, it it was positivity just exuding from you just to who you are.
But, I I would push back on one thing because it's not just it's not just tariffs, and I do think that tariffs and taxes and everything always benefits the 1%. That's just always how it works out. But I'm I can't help but wondering with the with, you know, the my illegal immigrants moving going back home, if that opens up more jobs and if that will help alleviate some of the pressure from the lowest income families. So I I it'll be interesting to see what Simon Simon says on that. Oh, that's a great one.
I didn't consider that, so thank you. Good good stuff. I'm gonna write that down and see how that offsets the job thing. I think the job thing is, yeah, for the export. So in agriculture and all that stuff, actually, I think that was listed as one of the I had I did, like, a whole bunch of different searches because I wanted to understand, like, what jobs would be lost, what industries are we exporting.
So so, yeah, that is actually one of them. I didn't know we exported agriculture over there, but, good good point. John, thank you for coming up. Jump in. Welcome.
Morning, Ace. Thank you for hosting this space. I'm excited to hear from Simon. He's always got great insight on this stuff. Something I just wanted to throw out there while we're talking about, you know, some of the supply chain issues that we're gonna be seeing in the future.
Last night, I had noticed that there was a GPU that's normally, like, listed at, like, $1,500. It was for MSRP at, like, $7.99, so I didn't really need it. But so I went on Amazon, and I bought it. And within about three hours, I got a notification that they canceled the order, and the price doubled immediately. So I don't know if anyone else is running into issues like this, but I think that, if you're in the market for any kind of tech that might be related to AI or crypto or something like that, if you find a good deal, now is probably the time to grab it because I have a feeling we're gonna be seeing more issues like this as we move forward.
Oh, absolutely. My friend was talking about this with cars, and, he did, like, a grok search and, like, the price of a car pre tariff and post tariff, it was, like, $14,000 difference. I'm like, what? I mean, it's crazy. Like, to me I mean, gosh.
I just don't think that people quite understand. And I'm not I I want the good and the bad. I I I just right now, I'm struggling to find the good, so I welcome it. Bring it up here. Adele brought one, which is really good.
You know, I I think that just looking at this in a very objective way to understand who's gonna bear the burden of this, how long will it last, and what is the net benefit in the long term. Is it something that's even I mean, with the advancement of the pace at which we are growing right now with the the techno the see, I'll just put it to you this way. When I researched the plans to kind of move into the next paradigm, it really does take poverty, and it makes poverty very profitable through social impact finance. I can break it down to you into whatever level of detail that you need. That's my wheelhouse.
Right? And what they're do and what would be done as a stakeholder capitalism is to grow the disparity between the haves and the have nots. So I'm always looking for that. And that's what I'm concerned about right now. This is doing it.
This is doing it. You know? So I'm very concerned about that. Rance, I saw your message earlier. And then hi, Brian.
I'm a come see you right after Rance. But, Rance, what do you have to say? Jump in, hon. Oh, I just wanted to jump in on that car situation. I think that's, what's gonna happen with these tariffs when you look at the the car you know, let's just use cars because it's simple.
And Simon might be able to go harder on this. But, if we're importing in, like, steel and steel's gonna go up in America, steel's gonna go up everywhere. You know, just the parts for everything is gonna go up. The cars are gonna jump up because all of our parts are made over from all these different countries. So as we bring these cars back to America, the price for all of these parts are gonna jump up a 50, two hundred, you know, percent.
And the the price of cars, what they're gonna do, in my opinion, you know, from what, you know, all the tariffs stuff I've listened to, is that you're gonna start getting a lack of options. We're just not gonna get choices and stuff because they're gonna start like you just said, they're gonna go for the 1% to the poor people, and we're gonna start, you know, cutting out cheap, reliable cars, and they're just gonna focus on building out expensive high end cars for, you know, the rich people. And, I mean, I don't know. I just I see that coming down. I see us losing choices because of the price of parts, for everything across the board, tech, industry, whatever.
I just see us losing the amount of the ability to say, alright. We have 500 TVs to choose from. Now we got two. So that'll lay my plan there. Exactly.
I I agree with you. So, yeah, we're gonna have a smaller, selection of of stuff to choose from. But I think that this is gonna ripple if I'm not mistaken. I mean, China, like, the I I just feel like this is gonna ripple. Like, if people are not aware on how much we rely, and perhaps this will shift that.
I think that's a good thing is that it will lessen our dependency on China. But how long does that take, and what will be what would that look like in the meantime? So Brian, and then we'll go to Prometheus and back to Adele. And, Simon, just whenever just holler whenever you're ready, and we'll jump in. Go ahead, Brian.
Yeah. I can I can start whenever you want, but if you wanna do the hands, then we'll jump in? Okay. Yeah. We'll go, definitely let's we'll go through the hands pretty quickly.
Brian, welcome. Thanks for coming up, love. Go ahead. Jump in, and then we'll go to, Good morning, miss Maiselove and your panel. Thank you so much for the mic a moment.
I won't take but just a moment. If any if any I know there's a lot of individuals that are don't want people to look back past twenty years. But if we look back just a century ago, a hundred years ago, almost to the date, right, in 1929, the depression. Did tariffs cause it then? Well, certain economists certainly say no.
You know? But there was a big shift in taxes and whether the whether the government would be dependent on tax or tariffs after 1913, which in my opinion led to the depression. So there's a lot of economic data just laying right there between 1913 and 1929 that tell us a lot about what's going on today if anybody cares to study any of that, which there was a and I'm gonna stop here. I'm gonna land here. There was a pretty good movie that came out years ago.
If anybody remembers Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Right? Ben Stein played a professor. He was a speech writer also for the Nixon administration and others. Anyway, it gives a lecture in the movie about, you know, the economy, tariffs versus taxes, etcetera.
And, well, there's so many things that I could say about it. The articles that are floating around right now about this battle that's going on, this turf war, tariff war. In my opinion, it will do exactly what they're saying it'll do. And Trump's idea and the economist idea, it'll cut the deficit. I believe that, but I don't think it will help Americans at all.
As a matter of fact, I think we'll face the exact same thing all over you. But I think we're gonna have to now open up EQ, quant I mean, QE, quantitative easing. I think that's the problem. I think what it's gonna I think well, I'll just say I I this is off the cuff. But if I'm not mistaken, I think that this is gonna kind of open that door again.
And I don't know if if this were to, let's just say, somewhere between, around, like, 6,000,000,000,000, it's supposed to, I guess, over ten years. What will that ten years look like for us, I think, is another question to ask too. Thanks, Brian. I appreciate your input. You know, and and we will we will see up against what Simon says as well.
Go ahead, Prometheus, and then we'll go to Adele, then we'll go to Simon. And welcome, ID Coop. Oop. Let me bring it back up. Thank you, Mays.
It's always an honor and a pleasure to be here with you, queen. Very excited to hear what brother Simon has to share with us. I reshared the post on the nest. Everyone, please take a look at it. It is well thought through, going into the backers of Trump and the biases that we are seeing in the administration.
And as some Mae, as you and I, we both love Elon. Okay? There's no lack of love here, and support him. Who loves Elon? I'm just kidding.
I love everyone. I'm not very happy with Elon, but go ahead. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, like, there are some things I'm not happy with them either. You know?
But, the the fact of the matter is that we are seeing great exposure of corruption within the government, system through Doge. Now is it is it perfect? Is the process perfect? Far from it. You know, are there biases, for example, towards Elon?
You know, he I think there was firing of a lot of, overseers who wanted to oversee his company. I I forget. There was a congress hearing, that was on it. I'll find the link for you in a bit. Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, there is some bias there. I'm not gonna say there isn't. Having said this, I I I'm gonna have a somewhat of a nuanced perspective here, I think, compared to maybe Simon's, in that I believe in the short term, this is going to be quite painful. But long term, I believe in many ways, it will be good for the, lowest income bracket.
And why do I say this? And it by the way, it depends on the lowest income bracket. If you're an educated lowest income bracket, you can go from the lowest income to a high income within the next four years. Easy. Easy.
If you pay attention to what is going on in the economy and you do what, you know, guys like Simon and I and others have been saying, which is invest in hard Is he ragging for any Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Maze? I can't hear you. I'm gonna drop down and come back.
I think you're okay, Prometheus. I think it's Maze. It might Yeah. Your Maze is right here. It might have been me.
I'm sorry about that. Okay. Is it better now? I'm back in my I'm next to my router. Excuse me.
Yeah. Okay. In the meantime hold on. Let me bring him back up. We are all dependent upon the Internet.
The Internet goes for a second, and I'm losing my mind. Me too. I'm gonna hug my router for now. Okay. Prometheus, I'm so sorry.
It was me that was ragging. Did you go ahead. Continue. And then we'll go to Adele, and then we'll go to Simon. No.
It's all good. Thanks as always. And and, look, this this is a a much bigger picture. I don't think any of us can foresee the future with a crystal ball. But having said this, I'm I'm very curious to hear Simon's take on all this and, looking forward to a fruitful discussion.
So, yeah, I'll I'll lend it there for now. Thanks so much. Okay. Awesome. Thanks, Prometheus.
Go ahead, Adele. I just wanted to say really quickly to the car and automotive. I think it actually opens up, a a new revenue stream for small businesses. We actually have hundreds of small steel manufacturers that do fabrication and it allows them and gives them the chance to expand their businesses. It also opens up the market for more people to get into that industry.
So and I also think that, it may may even open up more more of the three d printing type things. So I think that the it will leave a gap in the market. It's just up to us to take advantage of that. Oh, interesting. I didn't even really, think about that.
Let's see. It did say something about small businesses in here. I'll find it. In the meantime, I did see ID Coop in here who is also an economist, I believe. He's always bringing economics into all the spaces.
I don't care if I'm talking about aliens. He will figure out how to make economics apply. Go ahead, Ivy Coop. Jump in, love. Firstly, I thank my right honorable friend and, madam speaker of the house for a wonderful welcome back to house of to the house of parliament as well as deputy speaker, mister Simon.
It's officially twenty seven minutes past 04:00, Wednesday, April ninth twenty twenty five, live across the pond. Firstly, I would say I'm more of a political economist because that's where the discipline of economics originated from. And secondly, I would like to put my question forward to, the deputy speaker of the house. Do you believe we are witnessing the end of globalization based on neoliberalism? Because Keir Starmer made a speech a few days ago as well as the fact that with Donald Trump now basically focusing on carving his own sphere of influence in the South And Northern Hemisphere regarding The Americas.
Do you believe we're going back to the traditional multipolar world and the fact that the unipolar moment has ended and the fact that we are seeing neo mercantilatism at play now that everyone's finally seen that neoliberalism has been nothing but a spectacular failure of large proportions? Financialization of your economy is not real economic growth. Everyone now knows it's industrialization. Now we know that Donald Trump wants to do rapid catch up economics, but when you're looking at how he's approaching it to the Chinese, I think it's a bit of too little too late in the sense that compared to 2018, China was still maybe needing a bit of a decent relationship with The US. But 2025, China, I would say, has now achieved self sufficiency in innovation as well as long term development of new technologies.
I thank my right humble friend for his patience. I give the floor, and I'm looking forward to your insights. Thank you, mister deputy speaker, and, to madam speaker to madam speaker. And I know it's late, but, belated, I hope your New Year has gone off to a good start. I give the floor.
Oh, you're so kind. Adi Coop, thank you. It's always a pleasure hearing from you, and thank you for the wishes, the New Year's wishes. This is a Persian New Year that passed on March 21 for those that don't know. And I see Has down there.
So. Yeah. So, Simon, over to you. Give us your take. Okay.
Cool. Going on with Alright. Awesome. Right. I I wanna put it in a few pre framers because, whenever I talk about things, you know, I talk I I follow monetary flows.
And And when I follow monetary flows, I ignore PR and I ignore what politicians are saying. I just look at what they're doing with their money and where money is flowing, and then all the rest is noise for me. It's not a perfect science, because humans are not just money machines. But I do believe that global capital controls the world, and I do believe that we live in a in a in in in crypto world, let's call it in blockchain world or in Bitcoin world. We call it I I call it layer one, layer two, layer three.
And I use a blockchain analysis to help me understand the world. I believe in in, the traditional world, we are run by global financial institutions. At the very top, layer one, is a central bank, and almost all central banks are connected with the exceptions of ones that aren't connected. So PBOC, which is the Central Bank of China, is not connected, to the Federal Reserve Bank for International Settlements, Bank of England, our International Monetary Fund, World Bank system. That is one layer, and that layer does not is not America First, is not European first, is not Britain First.
Their job is to use the manipulation of currency in order to transition to a one world currency and one world government, controlled by fewer and fewer people, and that is the the goal of that, layer one. So most people are looking right now at what the Federal Reserve is gonna do, what the Bank of England's gonna do, what the European Central Bank is gonna do, and trying to figure out what you know, whether they're gonna save the save their stock portfolio by doing quantitative easing and reducing rates or whether they're actually gonna do something like in 1929 that led to a a 30 you know, a a great depression and a 1933 confiscation of hard money from American people, which was the last Great Depression. They could do either. They control everything. Underneath them is layer two, which is a mafia network.
That mafia network is often called the deep state or it's called intelligence. It's called MI six. It's called CIA. It's called Mossad, and it has its, jurisdictions, which is host states, America, Israel, and Britain, and they co opt the European Union in order to push them all into one block. And then they move capital around, blackmail, assassinate, kill, to prop up their illegal criminal networks, which is drug trafficking, sex trafficking, human trafficking, weapons trafficking.
Underneath that is layer three, which is the government. And the government is just a useful tool for layer one and layer two. Now with that understanding, you have to understand that no politician is there for the American people, for the British people, for the Europeans, for anybody. And they install, people to achieve certain goals. So in COVID, Trump was a vaccine salesperson as was Boris Johnson, but they put different characters in in order to dress up a narrative that makes people find what they're doing acceptable.
And so Trump was installed for a very specific purpose. The specific purpose can be understood when you look at who paid for them. And so you can actually look at who paid for Trump. Three main backers paid for Trump. The first one was Elon Musk.
Elon Musk wants to usher in a technocracy within a post state world, and he has various tools that he has given by layer one and layer two. He was given by the CIA and the military industrial complex the ability to get all of the world's car data, social data, government data through Doge, and, ever everything else that he's gonna get through XAI, X, and merging it all together. He is part of a the military industrial complex, and his technology gives a backdoor to the NSA. And so, therefore, he is allowed to play successful entrepreneur, and he flips between narratives. One minute, he'll be, I'm the climate change guy, and I'm, taking down the oil moguls.
Now he is the far right, you know, stamping out all corruption, and taking down governments around the world for all of their corruption. Soon, he will be a, I'm a I I don't believe in tariffs, type of person, and his job is to create some strategic tension between the Trump administration and the global institutions that he actually represents. And that's the first backer. And then I'll I'll I'll help you understand how tariffs fit in once you understand how how I think. And then maybe it will help you understand whether I'm an idiot or whether you agree.
The second backer of Trump was the Mellon family. The Mellon banking family are as global financial institutions as you could get. The banking family are globalists, and we were headed in a direction. The Mellon Banking family profited from various wars, and the growth of Can I stop you real quick? Can you make a distinction between the funding of this, this campaign and the prior one?
Yeah. I'll go into this one, and then maybe maybe we can look at a prior one. But the global the the Mellon banking fam and that was this campaign, what I'm talking about now. So the Mellon what I was asking for for you to clarify that. Oh, right.
Got you. Okay. Yeah. That is this campaign. So the Mellon banking family and the global financial institutions run by organizations like BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, Vanguard, State Street, you know, the Morgan family.
They are the ones that are shareholders of the Federal Reserve System, or they have a different role. Like, BlackRock, his their job is to gain control of all your pension money and be able to exert influence over the public markets through board seats and shareholder control through ETFs. So these institutions have decided that the old neocon model was gonna take us to World War three, and World War three was gonna be so disastrous that it would actually affect their profits. And so they have said we're not going to World War three. We're actually splitting the world up into regions, and we're gonna own BlackRock is gonna own shares and assets in all of those regions.
One of the regions is a peaceful Middle East for the very first time. We've never seen that, you know, since the Ottoman Empire, so this is a massive change. The second region is China and economic force, and BRICS that get to invest and build up the global South, while BlackRock gets to asset strip all of their resources under the new China model. The next region is Europe. Europe is being asset stripped, chopped out to die.
Europeans are gonna be sacrificial lambs, because the European Union and the European Central Bank has said we are scraping the barrel of every final asset we can. How do we do that? Well, we print €800,000,000,000. We chuck it all into the military industrial complex. We steal Putin's three hundred and fifty, billion dollars, and we stimulate based upon war, and we push people through fear into a central bank digital currency, the digital euro, which is due to launch in October.
And Europe is gonna be a full blown surveillance state using the artificial intelligence war technology that was was beta tested by Peter Thiel and Palantir in The Middle East through Israel on Gaza. America is going to be split into a region for robotics, stablecoins, and artificial intelligence, and we need it to control the complete ecosystem from energy, through to rare earth minerals that can be repurposed into semiconductor chips, manufacturing that is involved in data centers, the batteries that are needed for electric vehicles, and the, and then the components that are needed for AI drones, f 35 fighter jets, anything that's needed, for the military industrial complex through the American manufacturing base right up through to artificial intelligence, which will then be deeply integrated into a stablecoin. And that stablecoin will be owned by Trump because you delivered the vision for us, so you get a piece of the stablecoin. Elon Musk, you get a piece. You get us all you have to deliver for us is a social credit score by combining all these technologies.
The Bank of New York, Bank of New York Mellon, is getting a piece of their stablecoin. Bank of America is getting their stablecoin. JPMorgan's getting their stablecoin. In fact, look at the shareholders of the Federal Reserve. They're all getting a piece of the dollar.
And Howard Lutnick is the person that's delivering and, you you know, from the, from one part of that. Besent, who is a corporate raider that works for George Soros, he was the chief investment officer for the Soros Investment Fund when, he made a bet for George Soros that the pounds, could be shorted relative to the euro with the creation of the European Union and the European Central Bank. And his job was to create an NGO network, of, open border policies so that you can execute colored revolutions, create chaos anytime you needed to change the the world order. And so percent is that person. The third person that Trump is backed by is Adelson.
Adelson is your Israel First. Now this one's a little bit different. Because the global financial, system has invested in both China, bricks, America, they're divesting from Europe, they're divesting from America in a certain extent apart from artificial intelligence, robotics, and anything to do with controlling the dollar, and any data place. Global capital is remaining there. And the yeah.
So, but in order to have a peaceful Middle East, there is a regime change that happened in both Iran, and there was a regime change that is about to happen in Israel, I believe. The reason for that is if you look at all the military companies and look at their budgets, they are exiting The Middle East, and this was done over the last three years, and entering the European area and the Asia Pacific area. And so they need to take their money out of Middle East and move it over. The reason you know that is because the sovereign wealth funds in The Middle East are now on the border BlackRock. So The Middle East, over these years, over this multidecade period, moved into a block called the GCC.
It's the the Gulf Corporation corporations. And they are all they control vast wealth just like China has vast sovereign wealth. Now remember, the narrative that you're taught about China is that they're in debt, they're fucked, their economy is about to crash, their real estate's about to drop. That was an American narrative. You know, the reality is they have 3,000,000,000,000 of reserves and a state banking system.
That means that because Xi Jinping does not need to worry about what their people think of him, he can exert a multi decade strategy with no distraction about left and right Republican Democrat in constant turnover, And he has invested significantly in his country. Infrastructure is unbelievable. Education is unbelievable. The amount of investment, robotics is way ahead of America. Artificial intelligence seems like it's ahead of America, but America, you know, still has its AI data center because the same investors in The Middle East are the same investors in China and the same investors in the American, industry.
So the Israel First part is Israel had a chance to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. And then this all fits together, and I will get back to tariffs. But I think the background needs to be understood. Netanyahu, unfortunately, failed at that mission, and the CIA also engaged in an operation to weaken Europe, blow up Nord Stream pipeline, kill the manufacturing base in Europe, and asset strip Europe for the benefit of, the American ecosystem of the military industrial complex, AI, and various other things. The military industrial complex has changed all their products to cybersecurity and artificial intelligence.
Wars are not gonna be fought the old way. There will be no World War three. There is a way more profitable model that they wanna take us to. And so Europe was the sacrificial lamb, as it said. Europeans are not you know, it's why every European knows that their leader doesn't represent them.
They look at the unelected officials of the European Union saying, what the hell? We can't even eat. Why are you you know, we're choosing between eating and heating, and you're sending our money to Ukraine. You know, it's already been revealed that all that money is corrupt, and those weapons are just going into funding, and weaponizing ISIS, Al Qaeda, and other groups that are there to disrupt the, you know, regions. And it's become this ginormous weapons, this just weapons laundering, which is why that that network was set up in the first place.
So put all that together, and you have, right now, strategic escalation to deescalate. So Trump is gonna be known as the guy that created peace in the Middle East. He's gonna take that, take that title. He's escalating in Yemen. He's escalating in Lebanon.
He's escalating in Gaza. He's escalating in the West Bank. He's escalating in Somalia. He's escalating, all of the wars in all the different regions. But it is to give is and Syria, but it is to give Israel strategic negotiation power because they are no longer useful to the military industrial complex.
Israel is a jurisdiction which was created by the Rothschild family in order to have a jurisdiction and a safe harbor, for the mafia and the mob, is no longer useful because the Middle East is gonna move to a region of peace for the first time. And the only reason that's happening is because they have so much economic power as a bloc. And so this whole strategic tension that if you've if you've listened to, like, Operation Gladio and the Colonel and stuff, The the strategic tension between Israel and Iran is about to come to an end, and we're about to hit to a normalization. And the GCC are gonna be the next power brokers of capital within their block. They're gonna invest in China.
They're gonna invest in America, and it's all gonna be AI. It's all gonna be robotics. It's all gonna be blockchain assets. It's all gonna be stable coins, central bank digital currencies. All of that technology, surveillance technology, biometric technology, AI warfare, all of that stuff that is currently being built.
Right. So with with that background, that is the landscape. That is the vision that global finance wants, and it wants Europe to be a central bank digital currency. It wants America to be a stablecoin controlled by intelligence assets that give a backdoor to the NSA, through stablecoins. The BRICS corridor is their own corridor, and the GCC is run by monarchs, and they have their own corridor, and they're gonna go into an area of peace.
That means that all money is outflowing from America and Europe into global South, into China, into The Middle East, and into the region so they're all gonna have their role because they find it way more profitable, to invest in this new environment, in this new world of blocks. So the answer to the original question, are we moving to multipolar? I absolutely believe we are moving to multipolar. Now you get to the Trump administration. So we know that his backers is a technocrat, a banker, a bank a banking oligarch family, and an Israel First.
And his job, everything he has done in the last sixty days is to push forward that agenda. He gave Israel strategic negotiation power because they are economically destroyed. Israel has no power without Europe and America. America is gonna have capital outflow. Europe is gonna be destroyed.
So therefore, Israel is no longer useful, to the military industrial complex and global finance. And so they're giving it as much strategic power so that it can negotiate with the economic powers in the region. And soon, you'll see Iran announce the same deal that Trump tore up in 2018. It was called the JCPOA. It was a nuclear deal.
You'll probably hear my guess, based upon capital again, you will see that Iran has normalized with the region, and, potentially, Israel will be asked to sign up to the same deal as Iran, because they have to disclose their illegal nukes that they assassinated JFK to steal from America. And finally, they have to actually, adhere to, as part of this negotiation, those rules. Now it may not look exactly like it, but that's what I think the new The Middle East is gonna look like. And they're gonna make a shit ton of money out of this new great growth region. AI China and America are simply conduits for artificial intelligence and robotics.
Now let's look at what Trump has done. He gave Israel that strategic negotiation, and he's gonna take credit for creating peace in The Middle East, and he's gonna be known as the the hero for doing it. He is actually negotiating with Palestinian's life. The more Palestinians die right now, the more negotiation power he has, and that's he doesn't really care about that. This is just a tick for tack, and Israel, Netanyahu, and Trump are in the same game.
But Netanyahu is defeated. He visited Hungary last week. I think his exit I think there's gonna be a regime change, and he won't go to prison. He'll be given exile within Hungary, and he'll be forgive he'll be forgiven for all of his crimes as a a conduit, you know, as a tool for the military industrial complex to create the the murder, that, we needed in order to kind of go to this. So he had, till the Trump administration, to succeed at genociding or ethnically cleansing Palestinians without with us being okay with it, and he failed.
So he's been so he's now longer no longer got that, so there there is a new negotiation. Right. So those are the blocks. Now you look at what Trump has done. He gave Israel that power.
He needs to, he gave all of the technology. He repurposed the entire model of America so that you can rebuild the manufacturing base, not for Americans, for the bits that have to happen in America to have a fully autonomous AI and robotics center. And if you look at all the tariffs of the materials that are exempt from tariffs is everything that's needed for air AI. Whether it be steel, whether it be, the electric vehicles, whether it be battery, whether it be, semiconductor components, anything that is needed for that AI and robotics, world that Elon paid for, that is exempt from tariffs. Now everything else is irrelevant when it comes to tariffs.
There are relevance. You know, Europe is gonna fight back. They're gonna lose. Europe is irrelevant. They're gonna do reciprocal tariffs.
America's gonna win. Anything they do leads to the sacrifice. Damned if you do, damned if you don't because they're meant to be sacrificed. Europe is gonna get really rough. It's gonna get so rough that they're gonna use all of their forces in order to create strategic hate, strategic tension.
They're gonna say it's the Islamists that has taken over the world. It's the migrants' faults. And all of that is gonna be utilized because they want to see and beta test how far can we go with a central bank digital currency. And, yeah. So that's the Elon piece.
Then you got the the banker piece. How do you get there? Alright. You do Liberation Day. Liberation Day is not liberation, for America from the world.
Liberation Day is the the rest of the world being liberated from America, which is hosted by the Federal Reserve and has got the American government thirty seven trillion dollars in debt, asset stripped it, wiped out the middle class, and destroyed middle class Americans. Trump is you're you're missing the point if you think that, I'm dissing on Trump. This is systemic. This would have been the same but a different flavor. If we had kept with Harris, if Harris had won, then we'd be in World War three.
Trump was a recognition that Netanyahu didn't achieve his goal and Russia won the war, and therefore, America needs to do a strategic retreat and focus on this new multipolar world because the hegemon is dead. It no longer exists. It's over. And so you look at all the other tariffs. The tariffs are going to shrink the American economy, which is why right now, they're giving you a bunch of narratives.
One of those narratives is that Trump is here in order to, take on the Federal Reserve, force them to reduce interest rates, so that you can renegotiate the $10,000,000,000,000 of debt. The $10,000,000,000,000 of debt, if you listen to Scott Bissett, is not gonna be refinanced by the rate that the Federal Reserve control. That's called short term treasuries. It's gonna be renegotiated by long term ten year and thirty year bonds. Those rates are up.
The dollar is down because it is strategically saying we're gonna work on our deficit. If you under in economics, there's a concept that you may have heard of and everybody should look up called Triffin's dilemma. Triffin's Dilemma means that anybody that has the World Reserve currency, and this is what happened to the British Empire, anybody that has the World Reserve currency has to export their currency globally. And because the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England created a debt based Ponzi scheme, every dollar is debt. So when someone says to you, we're gonna repay the debt, what they're saying is we're gonna send the economy into a depression because every dollar is debt.
You can't pay down the debt. Losing $37,000,000,000,000 of dollars is economic Armageddon. So the debt always needs to be rolled over so we can stop pretending that that's what we do. And, this was, you know, the the as I said, if you if you look back at what happened to Brit the British Empire, it got so much debt, so much complication, so much war, that it became so complicated that it needed to strategically retreat and hand over to the Federal Reserve. That's what World War one and World War two was.
It was that transition. The world has got so complicated, that every single analyst that you speak to, and I'm talking about really intelligent people, can't figure out what the hell's going on. Because as soon as someone says, alright, he's trying to refinance the debt. But when you refinance the debt, that creates, a lower rate that forces the head of the Fed, but then that's weakening the economy. Now we've lost $9,000,000,000,000 of global capital, which has been, going out of America and into other assets.
And that's pushing up the rates of the long term treasury, so it's gonna actually be more expensive to refinance the debt. Plus that crashes the dollar, which means that the debt's getting more expensive to service. And everyone goes through all of these circles, and none of them can figure out what the exact strategy is because the strategy is chaos. The strategy is to create absolute carnage. And what is that carnage gonna actually do?
It's going to wipe out just like COVID, Trump's COVID operation, which was a vaccine salesperson for big pharma. Trump is a salesman. Percent calls himself a bond salesman. Trump is a salesman for the techno the technocracy and the new vision that the banks have for the world. And so what happens when you do a trade war with China?
Okay. So we're currently saying the narrative you're being told is that we're rebuilding the American manufacturing base. Right. We know a few things. If you implement a tariff on China, firstly, it would take you minimum minimum five years to rebuild an ounce of the manufacturing base in order to actually do what China can do at a thousand times the price.
If you want to rebuild the manufacturing base, the reason that China is the world's manufacturer is because they have sweatshops, and they violate all sorts of human rights. They work seven hours a day. Sorry. They work seven days a week. They work ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day.
They have no holiday. They get paid significantly less than any American, and, you know, they're in a ultra competitive labor market with a huge manufacturing base with a world that wants to buy their goods. And so and and remember, China didn't do an IMF terrorist organization. They did a belt and road initiative, which was we're not gonna interfere in your politics. We're gonna invest in your country as long as you buy our goods.
And we want you to become as big and grow as fast as possible to buy more of our goods. It wasn't an IMF policy of economic destruction and economic hitmen in order to submit the country into having a puppet government that then was asset stripped and use currency warfare in order to make sure that all the money they borrowed dollars and those dollars came back to the gangsters that run layer two. That's the IMF model. That's the Belt and Road. So that is a that is a very different model.
Now if you are a small business in America and you have no choice but to buy your goods from China because they're not available in America, and you can't afford the price that they come from in any other region, and you've already negotiated that whole line that your small business relies upon in order to, you know, make yourselves in America. China's just gonna say, okay. We'll do reciprocal tariffs. So America goes to a 4%. China's now at 84%.
We'll do reciprocal tariffs, and we don't care about Chinese people savings because we've got our manufacturing base. We'll just correct the currency to offset any tariff. So China can just say, alright. We'll, we'll push the value of the currency down that will offset any tariff. And now you're just essentially, you know, taking your dollars and paying the same price.
Or if they don't manipulate the currency, they'll say, right. You are now paying 40% more for your import. And the business in America has two choices. One is they could say, we'll take the hit because we got a 40% margin, and we had a 60% margin before. We'll we'll now only have a 20% margin, and we'll keep our prices the same.
Or they say, we're gonna put our prices up 40%. We're not sure which one they're gonna do and what everyone's gonna do, but we do know that most businesses in America don't have a 60% margin to play with, and so they're gonna go bust, or they're gonna put their prices up, and Americans are gonna have to find more money in order to pay for it. And so either the price of the good goes up or the business goes bust. What happened during COVID? Small business went bust, consolidate into large global financial institutions and technocracies.
This is the same thing again. Large institutions, what is Apple gonna do? Apple is gonna say, well, I'm invested in China anyway. I'm invested in The Middle East. We've got different bases everywhere.
And Trump, do me a favor. We'll do a a little deal here. Tim Cook will walk into the door, and we'll say, hey. We're Apple. You know, we're gonna do this.
You're gonna do that. We're gonna get a tax credit here. You'll get a little deal there. We'll reinvest that through Vietnam. We'll push it through, and we'll have our base in Ireland.
And our island, we'll put 500,000,000,000 into here, and you can take that 500,000,000,000 factory and use it for the military industrial complex. But just don't tax us anything. Don't charge us any tariffs, and we'll work it out. That's what every large institution in the world is doing right now in America. So it's a tax on small business.
That's it. And if they don't pass that tax on, it will then be a higher price. And I'm sorry to deliver this this message to you because this isn't a Trump derangement syndrome. This is a better model, but the model is the same. It's always for the organizations that bought America and bought Trump and bought Harris and bought Biden and bought Bush and bought Clinton and bought every and bought Obama.
America decided that it would create a model where their politicians are for sale to the highest bidder. Your country is controlled by global financial institutions, and they are what control Trump. And Trump is there to say, this is America First. America First means who is America. America is global corporations that control the damn world and are invested all around the world.
They don't give a shit about America, and they'll be there for as long as America's profitable. But as soon as the Federal Reserve fucks something up, they'll be gone, and they'll move on. And so Americans need to look after themselves. Trump's not here to save you. He's lying to you.
I'm sorry. They are all part of a greater system, and the system is bigger than any one politician because they're layer three. They're not layer one. If you want to change America, you do not need tax reform. You need monetary reform.
And the reason that I told people to vote for Trump is because there is a Bitcoin strategic reserve, and there is a stable coin regulations that are coming through. The banks and financial institutions are trying to get in the way of those right now. BlackRock has said, we'll get all of our bodies into Bitcoin. And BlackRock, Larry Fink, who does want who is one of those people that is way more important than Trump Listen to Larry Fink. Don't listen to Trump.
Larry Fink is saying, own Bitcoin. It could replace, the dollar as the world's reserve currency over the next few years. And BlackRock literally used the Federal Reserve and the SEC in order to take out, create that bank run story, wipe out the crypto friendly banks, approve the Bitcoin ETF, and get every single global financial institution into Bitcoin because they knew what they're gonna execute right now. As soon as Trump came in, he was gonna implement tariffs. April was gonna be Liberation Day for the world against America, and all of the small businesses are gonna get wiped out, consolidated because their goal and why they pay Trump is to get us to one world reserve currency with a technocracy in a stateless society.
And we're gonna be there in ten years. And your job is to see between the lines, recognize what's happening, and say f you to any politician, and just focus on yourself, your community, and do whatever you can because there is one very unique opportunity. If ever there was an opportunity to end the Fed, have Bitcoin strategic reserves, take down the fractional reserve system with stablecoins, it is today. And there is a massive group of people that have benefited from this system that owns stocks and real estate that are saying, I'm about to retire, the boomers. Look.
Just please do QE. Just please, Trump, reverse this policy. Please, Trump, get back to the status quo. I wanna sell my real estate. I wanna sell my stocks and fuck everyone else because I just wanna be able to retire with the wealth that I thought I had, because I can't afford, and I'm not gonna get back to work.
And those young people, they got their whole life ahead of them. Yeah. They're screwed by the system, but I can't get back to work. And so all those people are saying, let's get rid of Trump. You know, let's, you know, let's, let's make sure that you go back to QE.
Let's not end the Fed. I don't want this to happen. And that is that is the battle. There is a battle right now between decentralization and centralization, and they want you to be distracted thinking that Trump is the messiah that's gonna protect you. I'm sorry.
If you rely on Trump, make sure you follow what he's doing. He's investing in The Middle East. He's investing in China. He's investing in Bitcoin, and he is asset stripping America for his buddies in a world of artificial intelligence and robotics. And everyone on that administration is profiting from that transition.
Follow their money, not what they say. You'll get wrecked if you think he's looking to help middle class Americans. The manufacturing base is nothing but a conduit for the military industrial complex or a social credit score, for a stateless world of artificial intelligence, and that's all it is. That's the manufacturing base. So you gotta repossession yourself accordingly, and that's what I'd say.
Sorry, Maze. I took a long time. No. You did not take a long time. That was very, very informative.
I've been sitting here taking notes. I know that there's a lot of people that came up and have questions, so I'll just save mine, for last. But thank you so much for that. I know that Rance had his hands up before you'd gone, so I'll go to Rance first. And then, did you just put your hand down, DJ Satoshi?
Because it was up a second ago. Anyway Oh, no. No. I my hand's not up, but I appreciate Glad to be here. If you need help cohosting, I'm I'm available for the next hour.
How many people you got blocked? I always have to do a check because everybody's blocked out of that. Block. I got nobody. No.
I actually don't block anybody. I'm I'm pro free speech. Okay. Good. Alright.
Well, thanks for the heads up. I'll let you know if we need a spot. For now, go ahead, Rance. Jump in, love, and then, we'll go to ID Coop, and my girl, Josie, is up here. I see Zillion.
Yeah. We'll go from there. Go ahead, Rance. I was just, gonna say, Simon, man, that was a great great breakdown on, you know, the global geopolitics of what Trump's pulling down. I've been saying this for months.
You can ask Maze. I came at it from a different perspective, and I kinda reached the same conclusion you did with, the carbon capturing and the carbon sequestration with the energy grid and what's going on in America. And Alaska, they're just, shipping up all our resources over to to Japan, China, and, they're stripping our state right now for the exact same thing that you're talking about. They're gonna make America rich, but Americans poor. And that's what I'm fighting for right now.
So I I I'm with you on this a %, but I had a question when you were talking about China and, the the fight between them. To me, it's really hard to understand that when their poverty wage for someone in poverty in China is, like, a dollar. So when they can just say, alright. You know, half of our people aren't in poverty, and you're looking at the fact that, well, they're only making a dollar a day to get you out of poverty in China. How does that affect the workflow, like, for the jobs or the manufacturing if we could bring it over here if our wages are so high compared to other countries, is there a workaround?
Or how you know, I don't understand how we can make cheaper products if our wages are continuously growing while the rest of the world is $30.40 bucks behind us. You know? Yeah. The the answer is you can't. A $1,000 iPhone made in China is, $20,000 made in America.
That's the reality. So the only things that they're gonna bring onshore is the things that they don't want to be bought from China, because they wanna create that that hub within China, and they're willing to pay more for it. And So so that sort of, so when you say that that sort of encourages my thought process that we're just gonna lose choices? You know, like, we have 50 TVs now. We're gonna be able to choose from two.
Yeah. I mean, look. The end game is, again, this is a fight between centralization and decentralization. Centralization wants America on a stablecoin universal basic income with x, giving us freedom of speech but not freedom of reach so that you can use everything we're telling to build a perfect social credit score so that when they need you to have a universal basic income, they can tell you based upon whether you bow down to their agenda how what your interest rate will be. That's the future of the centralized vision of America that Trump and Elon are building, dressing it up as MAGA.
Europe, we've got a worse a worse vision, which is, the European Central Bank's gonna control everything, and it's gonna be a full blown surveillance state. But in the end, they merge into the same thing because the technology that's being beta tested in The Middle East on Gaza right now is the same technology that all of our data is being used to pick people to commit a genocide and kill in order to get the resources that they need and that they want. We are moving to that one world government under one, you know, one world currency based upon a technocracy, and break breaking everything up to blocks makes that easier to manage. Now what is the fight? What is the resistance?
It's not Trump versus Harris. It's not Republican versus Democrat. It's not American versus European. It's not pro Israeli versus pro Palestinian. It's not communism versus capitalism.
It's not, you know, it's not universal basic income versus free markets. It's decentralization versus centralization. We need to fight back with decentralized money. We need to boycott the system. We need to build decentralized AI, decentralized social media, decentralized identities.
And because you know what happened with Bitcoin? They couldn't beat us, so they joined us. Do you know what resources BlackRock put in in order to try and wreck and to get into Bitcoin once they realized they couldn't beat us? In 2022, BlackRock, the Federal Reserve, and the SEC executed a covert mission called Operation Chokepoint two point o. In operation choke point two point o, they Biden went over but firstly, the NATO expansion was accelerated in order to get Putin to invade Ukraine.
That was the asset stripping of the rare earth minerals. That was the weakening of Europe. That was the blowing up of Nord Stream pipeline so that Europe would become a vassal state for central bank digital currencies. Then what did they do? Biden went over and sat down with MBS and said, can you flood the market with oil because Americans are getting wiped out here through inflation?
MBS decided to not do that. He decided to push the price of oil up that creates a 9% inflation within America, which which translated into 900% inflation within Zimbabwe. That was then used to wipe out the, you know, the banks that they needed to bank. The Federal Reserve said everybody is allowed a new loan, and so they created a new tool. But there's only three banks that are not allowed this loan, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, and Silvergate.
Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, and Silvergate had a network on a blockchain that plugged together all of the different, twenty four seven movement of fiat currency, and they serviced all of the crypto exchanges. There was only one person that got a meeting with Gary Gensler at the SEC, and that was Sam Bankman Fried. Sam Bankman Fried, who was laundering money over to Ukraine through his exchanges, and was, able to get a meeting with the SEC that was writing the regulations for our sector, was the only person that was able to meet s e with the SEC. He just got a full pardon. Oh, I I think that's fake news.
I don't know if he did. I think that's fake news. Oh, it is? Okay. Fake news.
Yeah. It was in April fools, I think. Oh, okay. Damn it. I fell for a lot of those.
Yeah. Alright. Go ahead. What what else happened? Alex Mashinsky, the fact the cofounder of Celsius that also had Daniel Leone, who is in Israel, and his wife who works for head of social media of the IDF in Israel, and Alex Mashinsky, the person that was killing Lebanese children, for the IDF, he was able to create Celsius, which was a multibillion dollar Ponzi scheme.
I ended up one of the largest creditors in that company because I invested in the shares not knowing that it was a Mossad operation. What what happens? 35,000 were hacked from that exchange. That exchange was, hacked by a company called BancorDAO. As long as all the fraud he also took did a bunch of fraud.
But who was BancorDAO? BancorDAO, the shareholders, were the niece and nephew of president Netanyahu and the cofounder and all the founders that got exile in Israel have currently got an AI startup where their largest customer is the prime minister's office of Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu. They were also the same people that pushed out press in order to wipe out UNRWA and make sure that the world stopped investing in UNRWA to prevent Palestinians having their right to return. Those were the two companies that created the ginormous collapse of the market. What was the net result?
They wiped out three banks. Those three banks, how did those banks get wiped out? I was on a space with Mario when a gentleman called Peter Thiel came up to the stage and said everybody needs to withdraw their money from Silicon Valley Bank right now. They withdrew their money from Silicon Valley Bank that crashed the bond market, which the Federal Reserve was paying zero almost 0% interest treasuries, and that bank had to then sell their treasuries. And then selling their treasuries created a systemic risk in the entire banking system.
Then Bill Ackman came up to a space that I was on with Mario, and Bill Ackman said, hey. We'll buy the bank for free as long as the FDIC guarantees all the banks. FDIC guaranteed all the banks with the exception of those three banks. Those three banks were wiped out by Mossad and the CIA. And then from there, BlackRock said, oh, guess what?
We're gonna create a Bitcoin ETF. So are you, Fidelity. So was everybody else. And so all of the large financial institutions got to create a Bitcoin ETF. Then all of a sudden, Bank of New York Mellon Mellon was approved in order to custody the Bitcoin.
The Coinbase was able to go public. That was from, an earlier region. And the banks then suddenly got a regime change within America. Suddenly, Biden was wiped out, Harris was installed, and Trump had two assassination attempts. Those two assassination attempts then led to Trump winning and everybody putting bandages on their ear in solidarity for Trump.
From there, we got the deregulation environment that was needed. The Bitcoin ETF then was used by Larry Fink in order to get every single financial institution into Bitcoin because he told them we can no longer ignore this. And so now every single bank, every single financial institution has Bitcoin. The central banks started buying gold like crazy, pushing up the price of gold to new all time highs. That was the precursor.
Now Trump gets in power. Trump says, I'm gonna deliver to you peace. Every American, every European, including myself, was so disgusted at the amount of money that was being sent to the military industrial complex to commit genocide while we watched on our phones babies being killed every day. We were so disgusted that we said, look. Genocide Joe, Holocaust Harris, we can't take this anymore.
We want the man of peace. The man of peace said in day one, within twenty four hours, there will be no war between Ukraine and Russia. Then he said, once he got into power, I need a hundred days to achieve it. Then he said there will be a ceasefire, and all of the wars started to negotiate towards ending the strategic tension between Iran and Israel. Now suddenly, Iran allows Hezbollah leadership to be taken out, Hamas leadership to be taken out, all of the access to be decapitated while Israel blows up 3,000 pages, showing and demonstrating, hey, bitches.
If you buy our technology in the future, we can just blow up your balls. You know? World, are you watching? We're testing out all of this technology across the region. And then suddenly, the ceasefire happens, and Trump's known as I'm the guy of peace.
Everybody says, you're the guy of peace. He then says, yeah. But we're now gonna do what Adolf Hitler did. We're gonna expand. We're gonna take over Greenland.
We're gonna take over Canada. We're gonna take over Mexico. We're gonna create the Gulf Of America. And MAGA said, we're winning. We're winning.
And then suddenly, he said, Doge, Elon, you take out USAID, and we're gonna expose the military industrial complex. We're gonna leave parts of the JFK files. We're gonna leave parts of the oh, where's the Epstein files? Oh, yeah. Those people are still around.
We're just gonna do the people that are already dead. And everyone's gonna say, USA. USA. We're winning. We're winning.
We're winning. He's taking on the deep state. And meanwhile, we end up where we are today, Liberation Day, which is a strategic, mission by the deep state in order to draw the map into different regions and to wipe out middle class businesses, hand them over to the large global financial institutions. And guess what? All of the financial institutions have Bitcoin.
All of the central banks have gold, and now we can create a strategic realignment of capital all around the world. And that's what you're witnessing right in front of you, and we're gonna do it in a way that nobody understands. So no financial analyst in the world is gonna believe that conspiratorial shit that you just talked about, Simon. You're a conspiracy theorist. You're an antisemite.
You're a self hating Jew. Why would we listen to you? And they're all trying to figure out what's Trump's sixty five d chess move when the reality is Trump's bought and paid for just as every other politician has always been because it was never about democracy. It was about the Federal Reserve that is a mafia organization that is using wiping out middle class Americans, middle class Europeans, exporting that globally, and creating the largest wealth transfer the world has ever seen until you are so broke, so mentally destroyed, as suicides are happening at the fastest rate, mental depressants, mental disorders, birth rates down, inflation up, people can't afford anything because then you will be transitioned to a universal basic income. And we need to fight back, not with what we're fighting back.
Divide and conquer, distraction, hate each other, believe that it's false narratives. It's decentralization versus centralization. We won it with money, and now they need Bitcoin in order to transition to this new world, so you need to do the same. If you want to be if you want to know who controls the world, look at what they're actually spending their money on, and you need to position yourself accordingly. They want you to buy US treasuries.
They want you to buy US stocks because they're being dumped right now at a rate that is, accelerated. And guess what? Warren Buffett knew the whole freaking thing was happening. Berkshire Hathaway dumped all of his stocks over the last two years. They knew what was happening.
Gold was going up. CBDC's central banks were accumulating it. Financial institutions were getting into Bitcoin, and, you know, those in the know, Globe, the Warren Buffet, the Berkshire Hathaway's, they were selling their stocks into strength. Wow. You just gotta do the opposite of what everybody's saying.
Well, I'm glad that you, brought up solutions because I do want people to be able to, you know, begin pondering ways and alternatives. Because the more we participate in these systems and lock ourselves into this decline, and centralization, it is gonna be very difficult to have alternatives. And, like so I would say that the point would be to kinda get people to the point like, they they would have no choice other than to accept, you know, universal basic income and stuff like that. Like, that's kind of the the direction, that we're headed in. But most people at this point, they're I think he's just a great salesman because, I mean, he has people, like, just really believing in this direction without, you know, the, you know, the the like, it just to me, I'm just looking around.
Like, the reason why they keep using this whole 56 d e chest is because it doesn't make sense, and so they're just telling you to accept it. And that's the problem I have. Trust the plan. Just yeah. What plan?
That's what I've been asking. Like, tell me the freaking plan. But that's the you know? And, yeah, Zillion. I was actually gonna come to you.
I wanted to welcome you. Thanks for being patient. What's your take on everything? Jump on me. Yeah.
Thank you, Mays. I think that the people are looking for, there is such a dislocation of narratives depending on where you get your information from that really people are looking to kind of develop some type of thesis, around what's happening and and trying to kind of predict their next day to day move. And and right now that we're talking about, you know, making chess moves against China, there is I see that there is a lot of misunderstanding, from from from the general, public of what's going on here, from a a Chinese perspective, what can China do and the impact of what's happening here on the the next move. Right? I mean, I spent a lot of time on on the in the crypto trenches, simply because I'm developing something to address that market.
But, and I see that people are very hopeful and completely disconnected. I mean, this what's happening right now is a major, macro event and geopolitical event at the same time. And it looks to me and definitely when I when I see Simon holding big spaces, there is something that breaks. The it's a sign for me that, you know, we are in a crisis mode and and, and, yeah. Not because Simon is a is a is a negative person, but because, you know, he sees basically his, his his theory on the world, playing out.
And, and, yeah, that's, that that's what it is. But for me, look, I want to bring my, my, my added value in two things. My personal experience, I lived in Hong Kong for eleven years, and that's what I did most of my career. And I think that's, that's on well. Yeah.
Yeah. I know. I know you did. And, so, look, I think that the the the Americans don't appreciate how much, the Chinese have, have a strong hand here, simply because they have they have, developed quite, the ability to dominate, the industrial world literally and the production because people don't go to China just because of cost. China is not Vietnam.
It's not, other places where where you're competing on cost. China today competes on on industrial know how, and the ability to produce, etcetera. So so, so obviously, that's that's that's a long learning curve. That's a slow slow slow moving, type of, type of environment. And you need some time to develop that or to move it and to shift it around.
As you can see, Chinese companies, when there is any trade barrier, etcetera, they just shift their own infrastructure that they have in China to another country. But they still own the industrial complex. Right? So that that's that's that's important to note. So I think that the effects of what's happening here on this escalation of tariffs is completely underplayed and underappreciated.
And I think it's gonna have some very big consequences, especially for small and medium businesses, like, Simon said, because, we have developed, and the world has developed into drop, you know, industry of dropshippers. Those are wiped out completely now, simply because they would have they they they live on a presale type of model. So they have already, sold the goods for 50% of the price. They usually have very, low treasury, in terms of, in terms of, being able to hedge these type of situations. So they're completely wiped out, and their customers are gonna basically suffer because they paid for something that will never arrive simply because they cannot pay for it.
And, especially at critical size. I mean, you know, for dropshippers that sell, thousand, 5,000 pieces a day, etcetera. And that's a lot of people. I mean, that's a lot of a big network of people. That's one thing.
The second thing is, is, I think this is gonna escalate. And and, it's gonna escalate in a very bad way because I think next move, obviously, and correct and correct me if I'm if I'm wrong, but I think that the next move will be basically a show force of selling a little bit of bonds, see how that will affect the overall story. Obviously, China the Chinese have have a lot of exposure to The US bond market. And, the other thing is that China is one man man one man takes a decision. Right?
I mean, there is no debate here. The whole society can basically kind of, you know, wait out and and and and and and have one one play. Right? And there is no second opinion. There is one opinion, and that's and that's the one that matters.
So this whole situation is underappreciated. We still need to see what is gonna break. Obviously, I'll bring back, the the old famous Carl Icahn and his relationship with the ETFs and BlackRock and and how he talks about the velocity of, of this move, of this next thing that will break. And I think we'll reach that point. I invite you all to see his argument when he argued with with, with Larry, in in in on the debate around how how how BlackRock basically is gonna contribute to the to the next, collapse.
And yeah. So Can I just add something to that real quick, Zillion? Just just knowing like, if you look at the Belt and Road initiative, that essentially would put China as kind of the monopoly in trade. Right? And then you have IMEC, which is coming in, which also is probably the reason for The United States' unconditional support in addition to all of you obviously, the partnerships with, tech and cybercrime and all that stuff at the global level.
But so now with this new trade route from India, going through Israel and kind of connecting over to Greece and Europe, you know, there's that aspect of it that I think is going to shift. And it's it's more about they're trying to kind of, like, who's gonna call the shots, I think, between China and The United States. It's it's it seems like there's a, that tug of war. It's no longer about, like, the I don't know. I just I just see that shift happening as well, and I think that there's also potential for trade route, you know, ambitions as it relates to Greenland, as well as the resources.
But I just wanted to, you know, kinda throw that out and see what your take is if you could include that in your assessment. Hey, Maze. Also, what I'd like to do, I'll I'll answer that, but and we'll go to the hands because I really wanna hear everyone else. Yeah. But just in case people are listening to this recording and they may have tuned out, at some point, I wanna I wanna make sure everyone's got the solution.
So I'd like to just cover what I think everyone should be doing, and then we'll go around all the deep discussion. Yeah. But I don't want I wanna make sure if someone's listening to recording, they've got they're not left disempowered. Firstly, once you recognize that the key technologies, start at the physical, you know, energy through to hardware, through to software, and everything in between. Everybody, I believe, needs to reskill themself around there is a massive opportunity to take all of these small businesses and help them transition to AI.
Every single business in the world, especially when shit goes down, is gonna need somebody to help them with automating their business. And I know it sounds counterintuitive, but the trend is the trend. This trend, there is nothing that stops it. There is no slowdown. There is no regulations.
There is nothing you could spend your time protesting about against this. It's coming. It's inevitable. As I said, the fight to make it good is decentralization versus centralization, but the centralization is coming. The whole world is moving in that direction.
So you need to take that entire ecosystem from, you know, natural gas, oil extraction, you know, semiconductor chips, data centers, software development, cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, artificial intelligence, and, all of the financialization and things that are gonna happen on that. You need to reskill into either teaching that, being a part of the ecosystem. Whatever your skills are, fit you know, make that transition. You need to make as much money as you possibly can, around that ecosystem. You then need to if we are to make change, we then need to boycott the system, and that's the decentralization versus centralization.
The way we do that is and I know this is very hard because some people are so far down the system. You need to boycott that as much as possible. You know, whether it's you know, whatever you need to do to and I know that's hard for some, but I'm just saying if you can, if you're in a position to do that, you need to boycott debt. You then, again, not financial advice, but all I can tell is is is tell you what I think others are doing and what I'm doing. You then need to save in Bitcoin.
You need to learn self custody. You need to learn how to store it on your own. Gold will be here if you if you haven't bought into the Bitcoin. I believe that gold I believe that Bitcoin, because it's higher risk, will outperform gold. But if you haven't bought into the Bitcoin story, I think it's you need to at least hedge some of your gold, if you're mainly gold, into Bitcoin.
And if you've already built bought into the Bitcoin story and you can handle it and you don't just speculate on price and you don't get distracted, then use a save in Bitcoin and reposition your gold Bitcoin portfolio accordingly. If you are up for it and I can't give you advice on this, you need to understand what stocks are gonna prevail from this. And so as you invest, and I think keep it simple, gold and Bitcoin first, personally. Personally, I think Bitcoin is way more important than gold, but gold is way lower risk. Then if you've got wealth, you need to get a diversified portfolio around what I just talked about.
I believe that The Middle East is gonna be high growth. I think China and the global South are gonna be reinvested in over a long term time frame, And I think America is gonna become a technocracy, and I I don't know what the European plan is. They look like they're actually being sacrificed. And the only plan for Europe is to work with BRICS, but they've already, got leaders that are pushing out the narrative that Putin is Hitler to sacrifice them for the military industrial complex. So you need to decide where you wanna be.
There will be a massive wealth redistribution around you making sure you're in the right sector at the right place. If you're in energy, you know, be careful as well because Trump is pushing down the price of oil, which is a strategic, issue for the drill baby drill mission because they can they may be a situation where it can no longer profitably do it. But I believe that because Trump is in bed with OPEC plus, which it consists of Putin and MBS and all the others, I think that part will be okay because it's too strategically important. Right. Now once you have boycotted debt, saved in Bitcoin, repositioned your career around the growth sectors and the growth areas, decided where you wanna live, how you wanna live, made those big decisions with your family.
You know, these are major decisions. I know people are not just gonna move country. It's not, you know, it's not like that. You're gonna there'll be opportunities in every country, but you've gotta reposition around them. Then spend local.
Do not purchase wherever you can from Amazon, from the large global institutions, boycott the military industrial complex. Don't allow your pension to fund this war machine. Don't allow them to, you know, do wherever you can. Look after your community. You want your community to be as safe as possible.
That means that you need economic power within your community. The more economic power you have within your community, the better you'll be able to weather the storm. This disproportionately, again, harms those that are in the areas that have been most affected with the most amount of debt, with the most amount of drug addiction, and the people that are absolutely destroyed. If you are in a position of wealth, then you may need to support people, you know, whatever's your right for you. But most people are trying to support themselves, and you need to look after yourself, then your community, and then maybe you can go further down.
But if at all possible, try and take your skills in decentralization. Build decentralized technology. Support the communities that are building, you know, peer to peer electronic systems. Anything that works without middlemen that is built upon decentralized servers, open source code, the cypherpunk vision that Bitcoin was created from. Make sure you are involving yourself in how do we decentralize social media.
How do we decentralize artificial intelligence? How do we continue decentralizing money and supporting new adoption, of that? So those are all my I I just wanna make sure that everybody is not disempowered because I really believe the worlds that we enter in in the next ten years will be unrecognizable, and there will be a massive wealth redistribution. And those that understand this message and make the moves as soon as possible and sit down with their loved ones, sit down with their family, maybe you gotta get them to listen to this space. You know, maybe there's someone else that can communicate the message that resonates more with them, but you've gotta make moves.
You've gotta make changes, because we are actually alive at one of the the craziest times, and that's either gonna be the best time for you or the worst time for you. It is not gonna be any in between, and you need to reposition yourself accordingly. Simon, I'm gonna personally transcribe everything that you just put in that solution and, frame it as a post. I'll run it by you to make sure I I understood it correctly, and and then I'll post it out there, and, hopefully, people can share it. But, guys, that does remind me.
Please repost the space. I I think that the information shared so far is just, it's critical. It's it's very important. And I think that you know? And if if there's opposing views and and the dialogue is important here, so I welcome that.
Come up here, request to speak, and I'll bring you up. I'm gonna go to, Matt C, and then I'm gonna go to Josie, and then, we'll go from there. And then, yeah, IDC I see you IDCoup. We'll go we'll go to you right after that. Go ahead, Matt C.
Jump in. Yeah. I just find it crazy that, right now, where we're sitting, this S and P 500 sell off rivals the 2020 the March 2020, COVID crash. It's the exact same strength of the sell off. And now everyone is sitting here wondering, so are we gonna repeat 2020, or are we gonna repeat 02/2008?
I think it really just comes down to that. You know, a week from now, a month from now, maybe the Trump administration takes a massive pivot. Maybe they're able to find a lot of negotiation and common ground and cancel some of these more odious tariffs. But if they don't and if they stick to this, large remaking, of, whole swaths of US economy, I think we're in for a recession, period. I think we have a version of 02/2008 that we're looking at.
If you're talking about redoing trade on a global scale, that's not just some easy flip of the switch. Not at all. We we just heard, oh, you know, almost an hour of anecdotal, stories of, you know, the, different different US industries that are gonna get screwed or are already getting screwed right now. That's already happening. Your your costs are going up.
Small and medium sized businesses are having to, figure out, like, what do I just pass on 20%, thirty %, fifty % more costs onto my customers or I shut down? It's either it's literally that, because you can't you can't fire enough workers, when your margins are already, you know, slim or razor thin. So, yeah, I I I think we have just we have two paths, unfortunately. We we we could see a repeat of 2020 with a quick, a quick, recovery, or it's 2,008. Thanks, Matt.
Do you wanna respond to that, Simon? I I agree with everything, that was just said there, you know, and and by design. You know? But I I tell you what, there is no reversing this. Whichever direction, reversing this is not an option.
So we have to face what we have today. The the old model before this tariff shock was a disaster. The new model before this tariff shock, after this tariff shock was the exact type of shock that the world needed, and only Trump was gonna be able to deliver that. So I've said a lot of bad things, but I just think people need to understand that the old model was taking us to World War three. This new model is splitting us up into blocks, and everybody just needs to reposition around what they think the world looks like over the next ten years.
That is better than World War three. And so, you know, this day will be remembered, but, yeah, we we are I I give it a % chance. We move into recession. Money is going out of the dollar into the Swiss franc. The Swiss franc went into negative yield.
The Credit Suisse was calling the Federal Reserve because they're concerned about European banks right now. So there is a 02/2008 style, scenario that could happen. It may be avoided. It may not be part of the plan. If it happens, it's for a reason.
It's because it's allowed to happen. Remember, 02/2008 was BlackRock's, he they were managing both the, data that the Federal Reserve was using and Treasury were using. So they were controlling both fiscal and monetary policy with their data, and they decided which banks go down, which ones go up, and, you know, that was all things. So I completely agree that we we are moving to recession, and and, yeah, we could get some style of systemic risk in the credit system. I'm not sure exactly where it will come from, but we'll know about it soon.
And so everyone needs to, yeah, reposition around the industries that will be recession brief because all of the money is going into AI. All of the money is going into robotics. All the money is going into energy. All the money is going into commodities, Bitcoin, gold, and all of the technology around cryptocurrency, central bank digital currencies. Anywhere along that ecosystem, you'll be in boom territory.
Anywhere else is gonna be a is gonna be a hustle. You know what, Simon? What I'm seeing I'll let you respond one second, and maybe you can answer this too. What I'm seeing, everybody, right, just kind of looking in the getting a pulse check of the people that are, you know, in the in the MAGA camp and that are cheering this on or really thinking that there's gonna be some sort of offset with these tax cuts. But I I really hope that we cover that piece of it because I think that that's, like, an okey doke.
I mean, the tax cuts really do affect like, maybe it's gonna affect, like, the very top 1% of earners. And and then, really, the bottom is gonna absorb this. And I think that right now, I'm worried about the people who don't, who barely even make it from paycheck to paycheck. How are they gonna invest in anything? How are they gonna safeguard themselves?
Like and this is a majority of of Americans right now. I think, are not even in the know of of, like, how this is gonna impact them. I'm really concerned about that. Go ahead, Matt. You gotta you gotta invest your labor.
Oh, sorry. Either one. Yeah. I didn't know. I was gonna Matt wanted to respond to you anyway, and then when he kicks it back to you, you can, add to that.
Go ahead. Yeah. Sure. Let me I'll quickly answer that that tax question there. You're right.
I think a lot of Americans would be shocked to learn that, no, this is this is trying to extend the previous existing tax cuts from the first Trump administration. A lot of people, aren't gonna notice any difference on their next, tax bill, because they're they're just trying to extend what was already there in the first place. And then, a broader point, like, the The US still right now does not have a balanced budget. We we spend way more than we take in, way more than we take in. So this idea that, I agree with you 100%, Simon.
Like, you need to go long hard assets. You need to stay long gold, Bitcoin, anything that can't be debased. Because if if if you think that there's any part of this that the US government is getting wrong, the only solution they ever have at their disposal is to paper over the problem. They're gonna spin up the money printer and make whom whomever that needs to, they're gonna make them whole and debase your currency. It is the 100% guarantee every every single time because they spend more money than they take in.
So there is no there's no fiscal responsibility here. There's no there's no illusion of of, your dollar isn't gonna be worth less next year, five years, ten years. So you you we could easily have a lost, decade in Nasdaq and S and P five hundred while we watch whole swaths of The US economy get remade post tariffs. That could easily happen where it, the index is largely just kinda trade, sideways more or less for the next five years, ten years. But look what look what gold did in February through 02/2010, up only from 2,000,000,000,000 to 10,000,000,000,000.
Look what other hard assets did. Look at look at housing, which is not a perfect hard asset, but you get the idea. It's a limited supply. You can only build so much so fast. Everything that was hard asset went up only in February.
And if you sat in Nasdaq from 02/2001 to 02/2011, you barely broke even. Yeah, Mark. What I'd what I'd also say is that I think that sound advice for those that have capital. Most people don't have capital. They've only got labor, because most people are in deep debt, and they're not even in a position to invest.
You need to reposition your labor to the ecosystems that are gonna be, where all the capital is being invested. You need to make sure your labor is in front of the capital, whether it's you as a a freelance consultant, you know, whether it's, you taking your skills and making sure it's in the right sector. So I think we got a hot mic. I think it's, Zealand. Yeah.
And so you gotta re reposition your labor if you don't have capital to be in front of where all the investments are being made. There is a possibility that, you know, we're we're dealing with peak centralization here. So the Fed could move into a QE program. You could get your tax I think you will get your tax reform. The those that get salaries less than a hundred and 50,000, that was a promise of the administration.
As shit gets really bad, they might fulfill that promise, and I hope they do. You should hold your politicians, to account to give that tax reform because that was a promise. And, you know, that but remember also, you they could do QE. They could do the repositioning of the markets. You don't know is the point because we're dealing with peak centralization.
There's a few people that are making these decisions, and, I personally believe it's gonna go all the way to, you know, the the dividing of the world, but, you know, you don't know. So that's what I'm kind of trying to say there. Whether we enter into a Fed stimulus, QE lower rates environment, then, remember, the whole administration has positioned themselves around Bitcoin. All the central banks have positioned themselves around gold, and the entire world capital has positioned themselves around energy, robotics, and artificial intelligence. So, you know, just just think about that.
It's a bit it's a bit more, and there was one more thing that I wanted to say, but I've forgotten. Is it deficit spending? Or Yeah. No. I think I think you'll get your your tax break.
So that that could happen. Oh, and, yes, the other is remember the stimulus. If you get a stimulus that doesn't come from the Federal Reserve, it will be a way of getting adoption for a stablecoin. So Elon will do a stimulus through a stablecoin or Trump would do a stimulus through a stablecoin, and the stablecoin will be a way of getting 350,000,000 Americans, to download a wallet and, opt in to the social credit score that they're currently building. So you may get a stimulus, you know, and that's why you gotta go with what's happening.
You gotta recognize I personally believe there's no fighting there. There's nothing stops this train from here. I think it's wasted energy protesting against it. I think you gotta reposition yourself in front of it, and we gotta manage a controlled demolition of the old system of centralization with decentralization. And we, the people, decide.
I I do want you to remember that for the last eighteen months, you were meant to believe that, that what was happening in Palestine was acceptable to have a genocide, and We The People decided that that's not acceptable. The people that were being genocided shared the videos. On social, we made sure that the governments didn't get away with what they wanted to get away with. And although it doesn't look like a victory because it's still, been It's not a victory. It's definitely it's definitely it's definitely not a victory because but Netanyahu did not win, and the CIA did not beat Russia.
The the system is being split up, and Trump was installed. Trump went from you're not allowed to be here to you are about to be here, And that was because Russia won the war, which wasn't part of the plan, and Netanyahu lost again and didn't win. Russia won what war? Well, the war between America and Russia to weaken Europe. The the war between America and Russia was won by Russia?
When did that happen? Right now. Ukraine, sir. I hope this answers your Yeah. Ukraine.
Yes. I'm aware of Ukraine. Yes. He he didn't mention Ukraine, so I didn't know what he was talking about. Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. That in that sense, absolutely. I'm still so confused about what you're saying about Netanyahu. How how did Yeah.
You probably have to go back to the recording, but I explained I explained what was happening in the region. Okay. I'm I'm I'm sorry if I missed that. I I just I'm confused because Trump so the whole thing with Gaza, like, I mean, I'm not I'm not in here. I was just in here to, like, listen to, some of the the overall broader stuff you're saying is really interesting, and and I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
I think we do need to definitely, like, adjust. I don't think protesting this is not, like, you know, worth our time. It absolutely is because, what's happening now, it may be unprecedented. It may be a course we can't reverse. And that all may be true.
I'm not a stock and, like, global economy expert by any means at all, but I do follow politics, and I have been, like, sort of deeply immersed in this for about the last decade. Ever since Trump came out of the scene, I just was like, alright. It's time to not, be like you know, I'm not into politics anymore because we can't afford to do that. So so look. Like, I just think that what what happened with with Gaza seemed to be very much an op where because Trump was the one who met with Kislyak in the Oval Office to get the intel that led to that October.
And the because once they shared that, he gave it to the Russians. They shared it with Iran. They gave it to, Hamas, and they were the ones who carried out the attack on October 7. We had, Trump having these, basically, these meetings with world leaders when he was not president. He was meeting with Vladimir Putin.
He was meeting with, you know, people at Mar A Lago. It was very much clear that they were trying to drive a wedge into the Democratic Party, and they absolutely succeeded a %. Everybody said there were people protesting. They were calling Kamala. They were saying Kamala Harris is responsible for genocide.
And I was like, I don't know how many leaps these people are making at once, but I'm not following you. I don't understand. I'm like, I know what's going on in Gaza, and I think it's horrifying. It's disgusting. And there's no there's no defending any of it.
But nobody's pro genocide on the democratic side. I was like, Trump actually was responsible for a genocide here when he's, you know, when he sabotaged our COVID response and got over a million Americans killed, at least 700,000 of which have been found to be prevent were preventable. So so I don't know when that's what that's what that's all that's all what happened. And when he sent he's the one who actually called the police and then come around. Let me have a go.
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It was Trump who fast tracked war No. You're you're you're falling you're falling for the fight. That was Trump. He had nothing to do with that. He sabotaged at all.
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Let me let me have a go. So So this is bipartisan genocide. Israel is a is a US foreign policy, not from the American government, from the deep state of America, from the Federal Reserve, the CIA, MI six, Bank of England, Mossad. That's what Israel is. It was a mechanism Mhmm.
For ethnically cleansing the Palestinians, creating carnage in the region, and creating the you know, making sure that America could be the global hegemon that led to the Petro dot, all of that stuff. That was a mold that was a American policy. It came from Britain. It was transitioned over to America, and, genocides has been the global model of the mafia that runs the deep state. Okay?
Politicians are installed in order to fulfill strategic goals. Genocide Joe, Holocaust Harris, and Trump were all a part of that. Now what happened You calling them Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris is just utter insanity. Okay. Did it?
Well, they they did the genocide, and so did Trump. They didn't Okay. Hold on, guys. Hold on, guys. Genocide.
There's no way for a vice president to have any control over a genocide in another country. That's just not worth it. I think I think overall Yes. They did. So they they did it in two ways.
Yes. They did they did it in two ways. You're perpetuating, and I'll I'll give you how to do it. Hold on. Look.
Andrew, just let him finish. I think he so I think Andrew has a problem with, their them those individualized insults that Trump likes to use. So let's just just say Trump. I mean but at the end of the day, I think what we saw, you know, it happened under that administration. You know?
And it was even though, like, you know, just don't you know? Like, I don't know. Let's not get caught up on the details. We have a bigger we have a bigger picture here, Andrew. Uh-oh.
I think you left. Anyway, go ahead. It's it's issue. It's bipartisan. I sent the invite.
Again, it's bipartisan. And how did America engage in it? Well, firstly, they veto voted every ceasefire and peace in the United Nations. That was done under the Trump administration, under Biden. So that was been every single year.
Yep. They veto voted. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
I just can't believe it. Like, they're the See that, but it's not Simon, to be fair Simon, to be fair then, it it I do I do agree with you that this, support of Israel has been bipartisan for decades, decades and decades. So then it is to steal man Andrew's point. It's unfair to call, like, whatever you said, a a genocide Okay. Is it is it better if I say cover the If if I say terrorist Trump at the same time, then you happy?
No. It I think it's both I I think it's both disingenuous. I think I think The US just has a We're all involved in this general. This is so beyond partisanship. Yeah.
Matt, listen, guys. I just want you to know right now that the whole idea that one side is more of this than the other, like, the the margins have been exploited. Okay? And they have people nitpicking over surface level issues when the broader, you know, strategic objectives are being accomplished despite who's in office, what administration's been in office. It's all been advanced.
That's the that's the point. So it doesn't even matter. Fuck both sides right now. I'm I'll just say that I am all about making America great again. Now if that's with Trump or that's without Trump, it is really the people.
The people need to come together and to be able to have dialogue, which is what's been missing. It's because we've been fractured into all these different subgroups and identities that we're, you know, up here battling for. And I think right now is just saying all of it has been advanced to where we are now, and I think every administration's been a part of it. They laid foundations and stepping stones in one way or another, you know, in one way or another, and here we are. Yeah.
So what I what I believe coming from them. Again, I wanna get away from partisanship because it's such a psyop and a distraction, and it's not gonna help you. It's gonna we're gonna stop talking about what you need to do, and we're gonna start talking about whether Trump or Harris was right. The I personally believe that October was an intelligence operation, and I think Chinese intelligence, Russian intelligence, American intelligence, Israeli intelligence, and Iranian intelligence, and, Saudi and Emirati intelligence all knew it was gonna happen. It was there in order to settle where the world was heading next and what the future of the region was.
So they allowed October to happen. Israel wanted it because they wanted to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, and, Iran wanted it to find out whether there could be a solution for the Palestinian cause once and for all. And they America wanted it because they profit from strategic tension in the region. They get to sell more equipment, and they get to profit from genocide, which has been the long term British empire and American empire strategy for centuries. They also get to decide where capital is gonna flow afterwards.
And so October was a mission, and it said, Israel, you either ethnically cleansed and genocide the Palestinians completely or you've lost, and you've got until the Trump administration to achieve that goal. They didn't win. The Palestinians are still there. The humanitarian again, I'm talking about my geopolitical hat. Now put on my humanitarian hat, and they will vouch for me.
I'll be telling you how this was the most disgusting thing in the world that has made made me a different human having to watch what we've seen. So I'm I'm not wearing my humanitarian hat right now. I'm wearing my geopolitical hat, which is trying to take out the emotion how how I actually feel about what happened there. But the mission was you have until the Trump administration to ethnically cleanse and genocide the Palestinians, and you will be the global you will be the power in the region. If you don't achieve that goal, then we're gonna hand over the region to the Saudis, the Emirates, the Gulf, and Israel and Iran are gonna be regime changed to a certain degree.
I believe Iran has already negotiated a deal to drop the axis, normalize, and they're meeting this Saturday, and there's gonna be a nuclear deal. This is more speculative, but I believe that Israel will need to sign up to the same nuclear deal, and disclose the weapons that they stole from America when they killed, JFK in order to get the, weapons of mass destruction that they currently have in Israel. I believe that there's gonna be a normalization. There's gonna be a regime change. Netanyahu's gonna be out.
He's probably gonna go to Hungary, which is where he just visited. He looked like a defeated man in the Trump administration. For the first time, Trump looked more powerful than Netanyahu. The previous meeting, Netanyahu looked more powerful than Trump. The military industrial complex has decided that Israel is no longer useful, and the region gets to go into peace.
And Trump gets to be the hero and say that he was the guy that solved, the Middle East problems and gets his Nobel Peace Prize. That is what I think is gonna happen. What I think should happen is completely different. But I think Israel, the GCC, Iran, they've all put together their deal. And because they have so much capital, they're they're allowed to be a power broker in the region.
And all of those there is, right now, strategic escalation to give Israel as much negotiation power because they're economically decimated. Their reputation is completely, through the floor. And, America the world has figured out that America is, part of this and its US foreign policy. And everyone's asking questions around the power structure of the world. Does Israel control America?
Does America control Israel? And so, therefore, Israel is no longer useful to the military industrial complex. It is no longer profitable, and so, therefore, it's just gonna be consumed into the region. America's gonna retreat over the years ahead, and that industry is gonna be allowed to live in peace. There will be a Palestinian state.
That's what I think is currently happening right now. And that that's where I was I can't remember why why that came up. But I think, you know, capital is gonna enter into that region, and it's gonna be a growth story in the region from here on in. Thank you, Simon. I'm gonna, go to the hands.
I know that they've been super duper patient. Josie, go ahead. I think, she's got some a question for you, and then IDC Coupe will come to you, and then we'll go to, Cardano, Adele, and then Vicky. Hey, miss. So, I shared this space on Castle Club, and I told the members that if they had any questions, since, you know, you're you mastered in economics.
So, obviously, there is a, you know, ask the experts, like they say. So, I mean and the more you talk, the more they the more question I get, the more answers you you provide. So, like, okay. Here's one that keeps coming back is, okay. So there's two that there seems to, a lot of people seems to be asking similar questions.
Two of them. Number one is actually, it's pretty simple, but why if because according to the expert right now, they're claiming that, The US does not have the manufacturing power to put up with those tariffs. So, like, all the manufacturing that is going on in China that we don't have the infrastructure, that we don't have the factories and everything. So why wouldn't China just drop those tariffs if we're not a threat? That's actually not a bad question, actually.
Tell me if I'm answering it incorrectly. I believe the strategy is not to win a trade war. I believe the strategy is to dismantle the post World War two Bretton Woods order, and, we are going to a completely new world order, which is based upon regional powers. America has its role, which I've outlined before, and, Trump's mission is to shake up the entire global markets, confuse everybody thinking that something else is happening given that global capital is now repositioning and outflowing from America in the regions that aren't gonna benefit from robotics and AI. And so you're gonna rebuild your manufacturing base for robotics, AI, and energy, and data centers, because that is strategically important as well as the military that comes from that as well.
But everything else is being sacrificed. And so this strategy is, to wipe out middle small businesses just like COVID was, because they won't be able to afford the tariffs, and you have to buy from China. Rebuilding your manufacturing base, firstly, it won't happen for the industries outside of AI and robotics, which, by the way, is replacing humans with technology. And so you gotta mani you gotta you gotta get through that as well, but that won't happen for a while. And but all of the businesses that import from China don't have enough margin in order to pay the tariff that China China's about to charge American business.
That means that they either put their price up or they go bankrupt. That's the choice of small business. Large business will sit down with the Trump administration, and they're already invested in China. They're already invested in The Middle East, and they'll come up with a reciprocal tariff deal saying, I'll build my factory here and allow you to build your drains there, as long as you don't tariff me here and you give me a tax credit here. And we'll move some of the business that we were offshoring into Ireland, and we'll bring a little bit of tax in here, but you gotta give me more.
And the big business will get a net better deal than where they were before. The small business will be decimated or push the price up. China will continue to export, because there's nowhere else to buy them from, and China economically will struggle. No doubt about it. This is a recalibration, but it will draw all of the global relationships closer to China and closer to the global south ecosystem that China's been investing into.
And so this will will create capital outflows from America. It will mean that you can weaken the dollar, which will allow you to handle your trade deficit. And and one thing that's a bit confusing to people is there is a condition, and there's something called trician dilemma if you put it in grok or something, which states that in order to have the world reserve currency, you have to export currency globally, which is what America has been doing since Bretton Woods. And the way you what is the dollar? Because the Federal Reserve co opted the dollar, the dollar is debt.
And so, therefore, the only way to have a world reserve currency is to have the largest debt. And you need to take that debt and export it all around the world, which is why America had the IMF, which was engaged in economic terrorism globally to force people to take on the dollars, including the petrodollar, the eurodollar, get oil price in dollars. That's why Israel was created so that you could create the violence that is needed to have all oil in dollars, and it created a global terrorist network to prop up the dollar. And now the economic powers, I e, The Middle East, which was the net, victim of that, have managed to build up enough economic power as well as China, with their allies across bricks, have now built up enough economic power to fight back against the dollar, not through de dollarization because they haven't done that, through economic brute brutes and force and co opting the Trump administration, the Biden administration. So when you think Trump is doing this, Harris is doing this, Biden's doing this, No.
They are all doing what they're paid to do because America is not a democracy. America is a left and right distraction when the deep state and the Federal Reserve control America. The CIA and the Federal Reserve and BlackRock and Goldman Sachs and the European banks and the global banks and the global capital from the sovereign wealth in China, which owns 27,000,000,000,000 of American assets, controls America. Trump is installed in order to do the agenda of what he is paid to do. His biggest backers is Elon Musk, a a technocracy, the Mellon banking family, which wanna split the world up into regions, and Adelson, which is an Israel First try and give as much power Simon, if I could if I can interject there.
I'm Yeah. I'm with I was with you all the way up until Trump's installed, and this is actually the big banks and Goldman and Larry Fink's idea. Like, no. That's where I get off. I'm sorry.
Like, the the estimated one. Another important question. Can you can you just go ahead and finish? I just sorry about that. I just I got the guy sending me questions down there, and I really wanna ask Simon because he's really good.
So Well, yeah. No. I want you to ask, but I like the dialogue. You know? I I do wanna hear the the back and forth.
But Don't forget me. I wanna succeed. I won't do that. I promise. I promise.
I think the dialogue is is helpful for people because there's a lot of people that, you know, probably feel the same way that Matt feels. And and I think that, you know, that this is where we comb through the knots. You know? But, absolutely, I won't forget you. I promise.
Did you want to, finish your question or your pushback and then allow Simon to respond, Matt? Yeah. Matt, go ahead. No. No.
It's Jesse's. Josie's. Excuse me. Go ahead. Let's do the back and forth, and then we'll go to another question.
So you you your your objection is that Trump does not control opposition. Yeah. Because look. For for years, decades, the status quo has been incredible for the big banks, for Goldman, for BlackRock, for etcetera. The status quo has made them billions, if not trillions, and business has been good.
The, Trump's idea of remaking whole swaths of The US economy, that's not in that's not in their favor. That's not in this, that's not what the old TradFi, old money elites wanted. They want a continuation of the status quo. They want the continuation of, low to no tariffs, free trade, outsourcing manufacturing because it's it's, because I can find a worker in The Philippines that'll do the job for $1 when it costs in America Thirty Dollars An Hour. Like, they that's what they would want to happen to continue into perpetuity.
So, I mean, whether we can debate whether Trump's, rollout is is smart or not, if it's too chaotic or not, but this is not in the, the old money status quo elites agenda. Yeah. So I disagree. So old money had the post Bretton Woods two order, and they made the largest wealth redistribution that has caused, you know, the point where you can't even one one person can't look after a family. We got record suicide rates, record drug addiction, lowest birth rates, record suicide rates, record wealth inequality, record drug addiction.
That's where we are right now. We're in the Valmore Republic, in that in that phase. Okay? Global Capital, had a series of games, and it was to set what's the new world order gonna look like. Are we going to World War three, or are we going to break break the regions into regional, areas?
BRICS, Europe, America, Middle East, and America is no longer the global hegemon. America as the global hegemon did not win. And so now how do you make a transition into regional blocks? You install whoever you need to be installed in order to create chaos and execute all of the capital flows that are needed that wipes out small business, supports the technocracy and the global financiers, and allows them to take their capital out of America and over to The Middle East and China and allows them to then reinvest that capital into America, AI, and robotics and energy infrastructure, and the same in China. So the Goldman Sachses, the Larry Finks, they're invested in all of that.
And so this was a more profitable business than World War three. World War three was gonna destroy all of their investments. That's what I believe global capital wanted. And if you need a team in order to execute that, you take the person that you were originally trying to wipe out that was going through warfare, that was going through assassination attempts, that was going through, all of the things that he was going through, and you say, right. How about we put the person in that for forty years have been talking about tariffs?
And then we put the person in, Scott Besant, who worked with George Soros in order to arbitrage the currency war between Europe and Britain, Scott Bessent. And then you put the Israel First implant in, which is, what's his name? The Cantor Fitzgerald guy. Why am I thinking of his name? Oh, I forgot.
How would how would Lutnick? How would Lutnick? Yeah. Yeah. Then you put the technocrat in, Elon Musk, that is gonna be the the receiver of and he's a military guy.
We know we know he's, you know, given technology in order to provide all of that data to get the back end that's needed for all the artificial intelligence, Palantir, genocide as a service stuff. And then you have the person that was, Steve Witkoff that is an investor in World Liberty Financial, the stablecoin that Trump created, that is, an investor in the Harry Kushner network, which is where all The Middle East and Saudi money is coming from, and the person that has significant investments in The Middle East and China, which is Trump. And so he gets to have the Bitcoin play, the stable coin play, the robotics play, the AI play, the Middle Eastern growth, and the China growth. And that's exactly where Trump's money is right now, and he is executing what he was paid to execute. This is no criticism of Trump.
No politician is bigger than the deep state and the Federal Reserve. None of them. They only get that role if they, can be utilized and they fund both sides. And so Trump if you wanna take the emotion of Trump, Trump is executing to perfection that vision which will lead to the wiping out of middle class businesses just like he did with the COVID when he was a vaccine salesperson. And I'm sorry if you don't like it.
I'll say the same thing about Biden. I'll say the same thing about Harris. I'll say the same thing about every politician because this guy has executed what is the perfect narrative to make people think we're winning, wrap it in a MAGA wrapper, and get people cheering along, which is actually gonna lead to massive capital outflows from America and a recalibration of the economy to a stable coin technocracy and social credit score. Hey. Hey, Simon.
Can, can I ask you if you think, you know, so if do you think it's just people in Trump's circle that just lied to him and maybe he doesn't even know what's going on, or do you think he actually knows what's going on? I mean, the apparatus at which the deep state use is threefold. One is you just pay them. If you don't pay them, you blackmail them. If you can't blackmail them, you give them a near death experience.
And if they get in power and they don't do as you say, you assassinate them. That's the entire history of American politics and British politics ever since, the Bank of England created this model in order to enslave the Europeans and enslave the Americans into debt slavery. So you you ask the question. You've got all these NGO networks. You've got these funding networks.
The easiest way to co opt Trump is to firstly say your lawfare goes away. Your we tried to push you into the whole Epstein thing. We got all those photos. That won't come out. And, by the way, I'm not calling him a pedophile.
I'm saying I believe that he was absolutely blackmailed by Epstein. You deliver Israel the goal that we want there, give them strategic power. You get to have investments in The Middle East. You get your fund with Harry Kushner, which is MBS in Saudi Arabia. You get to do your Bitcoin thing.
You get your stable coin with Steve Witkoff as a shareholder in as well. And you can just completely profit from the whole thing, but all we need you to do is wrap a MAGA narrative that makes Americans cheer it on. And what you need to do is either you believe that Trump is the savior and you don't change anything about your actions, and I think you will be destroyed, or you reposition around everything that Trump is profiting from so you can profit from it too and survive. That's my message. Trump is, I believe, 100% controlled opposition as is Biden.
Alright. Okay. So let's Josie, I know you had another question, and, if anybody wants to come up, then by all means, please request. I'll bring you up. And, guys, repost the space.
And I I do want to talk about how there's the kind of moving towards the political environment right now and the timing for the advancement of technology and to create the the political environment for that to happen, I think is at play as well. And we'll do I'll also add one more thing, Mace. Don't don't think that me criticizing America please don't take it personally because I've got a British accent. Brits and Europeans are even worse. They're not even gonna have robotics and AI.
They're gonna have a central bank digital currency be decimated by the European Union and the European Central Bank. So my people, they're long gone. America, at least you have an industry. Our industry is just gonna be big pharma, big banking, and the war machine. Like, that's it.
They have assets ripped the shit out of Europe. They're you know, Europe is Europe is it hasn't even got the opportunity to realign around an industry. You know, you have to so just please don't take this as America versus Europe or British versus American or Trump versus Biden. All of that is a distraction. It's centralization versus decentralization, and we, the people, are the ones that don't, trust our politicians because they're all out to fuck us because they're bought by global capital.
They're blackmailed, And if they don't play the game, they get assassinated. Yep. Go ahead. Yeah. So you did mention that earlier, and there was a they took a massive hit in, 2022.
And a lot of private lenders here in The US got extremely affected by that, negatively. A lot of lenders had to shut down. Is it a scenario that we're likely to, see anytime soon regarding big banks lending money? Yeah. So, again, it's a conversation between the Federal Reserve and the technocrats.
The technocrats are being given stable coins, which is treasury backed money, and the the Federal Reserve has the old version of the dollar, which is just, being able to create it through its network of banks, which are the shareholders in the Federal Reserve. Those two models are in strategic friction right now. You could either do a controlled demolition, swap one model for the other. You could do a hybrid model where Trump gets his stable coin, Elon gets his stablecoin. You enter into a free banking era.
Either way, I don't think anyone's gonna lose their bank deposits. But if you have bank deposits at a bank that is to be replaced with a central bank digital currency or a stablecoin, you will have to opt in to the terms and conditions, and you may not have any choice on who your issuer is. So I don't think they'll wipe out your dollars, but they will give you a social credit score, stable coin, most likely in America. And in and in Europe, you'll be given a central bank digital currency when they're ready to do that controlled demolition. So I don't think you lose your deposit, but I do think you lose your freedom.
Alright. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you, Josie, for taking those questions from, castle what is it? What is it called?
Castle Club. Castle Club. What's this squad in the house? Sorry. Not not complete freedom.
You you need a ratio of assets, decentralized to centralized. Your dollars are centralized control, and social credit score. That's why I told people saving in Bitcoin or if you're not on the Bitcoin bandwagon, then look at gold. But you need outside the reason that gold's hard is because you'll end up putting it in Singapore or Sweden or, sorry, not Sweden or or Texas or something, and you'll have it with a custodian. In 1933, they said, hand us your gold, and we'll give you $20 of Federal Reserve notes.
They may do the same. If you've got your Bitcoin exposure through MicroStrategy, I'm pretty sure at this point that strategy is the CIA that is playing the fiat system in order to build a Bitcoin strategic reserve for America. So that stock will probably be swapped into a stable coin when America needs those. I'm not sure of the game theory exactly how it's gonna work, but I do know that the Federal Reserve System is also invested in the technocracies. So whatever way it goes, they'll still be okay.
You need to make sure you're okay, and you're okay by not listening to politicians and following their money instead. Awesome. Okay. So let's go to, it was ID Coop and then, Cardano, Adele, and then Vicky, and then we'll go from there. I thank my humble friend.
I thank madam speaker of the house for giving me the floor, and I would like to personally say a big thank you very much to, deputy speaker, mister Simon, for answering my inquiries earlier. Regarding Europe, it's important to stress that when you talk about Europe has no future, I completely agree with you that will the EU even exist in, say, ten to twenty years when you're looking at the idiotic policies they've implemented? Because they don't have cheap energy anymore. They burn bridges with Russia, plus the fact they doubled down on austerity measures as well when they did neoliberalism on steroids. They literally don't have the production force to reindustrialize.
And I really am happy you brought the point about the remilitarization. We're gonna we're gonna use €800,000,000,000 to reindustrialize. It's gonna be based on debt, and that is not good for investment. And the fact that chancellor Merz has become the chancellor of Germany, and he's openly said, I'm gonna lift the debt break, Germany's debt to GDP ratio is 65%. And because Germany is the largest European Union economy as well as Eurozone, this is gonna leave many investors not wanting to hold them to euro bonds because because of the amount of quantitative easing as well as the fact that the number of the largest economies in the EU are currently suffering financial deficit.
Whether it's France or Italy, you can look it up. And the fact that with the lack of investment in energy as well, the fact they listen to Greta Thunberg's wild fantasies of let's go green. Don't use nuclear. Let's get rid of coal and everything. They're now paying the price for stupidity.
So, really, the the Europeans really do not have a future, they're not really competitive. The fact they listened to Joe Biden who openly said there will be no Nord Stream two. You listen to a guy who forgets where he is half the time, and then you complain now that the consequences have come to bear. So they burned bridges with China. They burned bridges with Russia, Two large fast growing markets.
And the fact that now they don't really produce much of their own products anymore, especially with Joe Joe Biden's anti inflation act, which was actually used to try and bring some industrial companies from Europe to United States because high electricity prices means that you will literally not be industrial anymore. So from glass making to paper making and all of the heavy industrial activities, that's why you last time to have high unemployment in Germany when it comes to Volkswagen as well as automobile manufacturers, now literally doing vac vacancies in Germany for the first time ever, which was really not that which was really ever rare. So concerning the competitiveness of the EU, you're right. They have no agency. And the fact that they ignored Russia's concerns when it came to Minsk or the Minsk Two shows that they, not really good actors in good faith in sticking to agreements as well as the fact that you've heard the truth come out that they were openly wanting to destabilize Russia so they could seize minerals, balkanize the country, and from there, try to also antagonize China.
If anyone's read the Rand report from 2019, the whole point of Ukraine was to basically weaken Russia militarily with the based on the terrible assumptions that, oh, Russia's economy mostly relies on hydrocarbons. So because of that belief, they thought that ill's economic sanctions in 2022 that would destroy Russia's economy. But you have to wind the clock backwards to twenty twin '20 '14 when Russia diversified its economy. Because if I'm not mistaken, hydrocarbons only makes up 5% of their actual overall GDP of growth. They diversified the economy since 2014.
They got their own card system when it comes to Mercards. So Visa, Mastercard that left the Russian market, that that ended up not crashing their banking system. And it's important to stress that with the threat of taking Russia off SWIFT, that also was negated when Russia established its own financial messaging system, SWIFT, which had been integrated with Iran and and China's own. So it's important to stress that that's the reason why Europe is the biggest loser. Russia's reemerged as a major power.
And it's important to stress to my right humble friend Simon that when we talk about a multipolar world, it must be stressed that when it was The United States as the only superpower, it was an aberration in international relations history regarding having just a single superpower. We're now going back to how the world traditionally is in terms of having multiple powers involved. So the pit so the aberration of the uni power moment is over, and you're correct in saying that the Americans inherited what the Brits had, which in turn was actually heavily influenced from the Pax Romar policy of expansion of empire and everything, as well as using their currency as a main medium of exchange, hence, going back to what you rightly said as the tripping dilemma. So that was correct in that regard. But then, like I say, in this fast emerging multipolar world, Europe is dead.
It's decided to destroy itself, and so they have no choice but to rely on having some relation with The United States. But then when it comes to China, I would like to raise a key point that when you go back to 1979 when Deng Xiaoping initiated its economic reforms, he implemented state led capitalism. And that was the model that was used as as part of the East Asian economic miracle when it came to Japan and South Korea's rapid economic growth during the period from the nineteen fifties to the nineteen nineties. But it's important to stress that this model originally came from Europe and The United States when it came to Alexander Hamilton's historic report on manufacturers as well as also Frederick List, who was the German political theorist who came up with the idea of rapid catch up economics in order for countries to quickly catch up and industrialize as well as expand rapid development. So you saw the revival of this policy during the East Asian economic miracle, which in turn the Chinese successfully picked up on when it came to them opening up.
And it's important to stress that whenever people say the narrative of, oh, China stole our technology, they're completely a bunch of liars. Forgive my language, madam speaker. But I have to stress this in that through the special economic zones, you would have foreign companies be in these special economic zones, which had different tax systems from the from within the other parts of China. As long as you set up your business in the technical park or Special Economic Zone, which AKA Shenzhen was the very first one, followed by Pudong in Shanghai, it's important that you also had joint ventures, which were mandatory for fifteen years. So a local Chinese firm would own four 51% of state, and a and a foreign firm would own 49.
And you'd have universities be setting up shop within these zones. So that way, you'd have the human capital labor available to manufacture and produce the product that was being manufactured, as well as having, subsidy policies, as well as infant industry protection measure, which would be used only temporarily once a company is able to compete against for foreign competition fairly. And just like the Nobel Prize winning Joseph Stiglitz stressed, in order to participate in globalization on your terms, you have to develop yourself first. If you decide to open up too early, you will risk having underdevelopment. And that's what happened with countries that pursued the structural adjustment programs of the nineteen eighties or AKA Milton Friedman shock therapy, which happened in the global South First and which was eventually implemented in the global North when it came to Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, alongside Brian Mulroney in Canada and the Keating government in Australia.
So that's the reason why you're now seeing the globalization and its discontent in that while these western countries decided to financialize their whole industries, China decided to stick to what real economics is when it came to focusing on industrial economics. So it's important to stress that Donald Trump is trying to steer The United States back towards industrial economics, whereas Europe, it's a bit too late. The ship has sailed. And it's important to stress once again that regarding The UK, myself, my own boyfriend, Simon, where we currently reside, we can both say on the ground We could both honestly say that The UK whoever says Britannia still rules the waves is living in the dreamland because our debt to GDP is a %. And to make matters worse, due to austerity, we've underinvested in major infrastructure.
Thatcher did not bother to look at new technologies and and focus on innovation, which could have resulted in our long term economic growth and decided to go for rapid privatization as well as deregulation of certain sectors, lifting of capital controls, which has resulted in the outflow of human capital oh, sorry. Not human, but capital flight. That's the reason why now the Brits, with these tariffs, if anything, we're going into recession, and it's killed us. Hence why Rachel Reeves has had to revise the growth figures after her spring during her spring statement, which is why Labour is busy doing this nonsense of, we'll have great growth, but then you're willing to send ÂŁ2,600,000,000 to Ukraine in a war that is clearly lost, and yet you're not having to cut welfare. And, before I give the floor, I thank our humble friends for their patience.
Another key thing that the European that I must stress about the Europeans, also I say strictly the EU, is this, in that the idea of the collective West has finally died, is ended because Donald Trump has decided to withdraw from Europe because he's now recognized this. And that the Europeans would always rely on the Americans for defense. They'll rely on Russia for raw materials. So that way, that was how their prosperity was. So they can always predominantly, while they're deindustrializing themselves, would only be investing in welfare while still exercising austerity.
But now that they've burnt bridges with Russia, they've lost the war in Ukraine, and the fact the Americans now recognize this and want to withdraw, that now means that the Europeans will now have to to in order to re, quote, unquote, reindustrialize, they have to be cut in welfare. That's good. That's on the chopping block already. In The UK, Five Hundred Billion support to to people with disabilities has been announced to be cut by Keir Starmer's government. So forgive me for going over the place.
I wanted to expand on what my right honorable friend has raised while also clarifying some things as well as also questioning the perception that China steals technology. Oh, China and its cheap labor. Actually, China has a lot of holidays because I lived there for a year. Like, they got the golden week holiday that happens around autumn. They got the moon festival.
They got two sweeping day, and they got eleven eleven, which takes place in November. So they do have quite a few holidays out of interest, actually, as well as the spring festival. A bunch of hands. I I love you to death. I just wanted to kind of be conscious of that.
They've been waiting forever. But, Oh, I I thank you for the timely interjection, madam speaker. I'm only a fellow participant and guest in your House of Commons. I give the floor back to my right, but I would personally like to say I'm on moon as well to madam speaker. And a special thank you once again to deputy to mister deputy speaker, mister Simon, as well as, mister Rams from the from across the pond as well.
I thank you very much, I give the floor, and I'm grateful to have learned from this discussion. Thank you for your patience. Madam speaker. I give the floor. Thank you.
Much love to see you, ID Cooper. Always love when you share. You know, I I think that for the for the most part, one of the things that we haven't really discussed yet, that I would love to weave into the conversation, I'm coming over to you, Cardano, and then Adele and then Vicky. But at some point, I would like to just and and, by the way, shout out to Ed. Thanks for coming.
Augustus, my boy. He's up in the building as well, and I see, Curham here and and some others that I brought up. So welcome, guys. But, you know, the whole tax cut, ordeal is seemingly the cushion for many people. They think, oh, this is gonna just offset it.
And we did talk about this early on. We haven't really zoomed into it yet, but I I, you know, I think it's very important for people to understand these brackets and who is going to be benefiting and who is going to absorb majority of the adverse impact. And and I think that, you know, it's not necessarily a cushion for most. I think it's going to, really make it difficult for people who are already having a hard time making ends meet. You know, who knows what their situation is gonna be like, but people that were at least a little comfortable are gonna be really stretching to make ends meet.
I mean, there's just you know? So I do wanna weave that in to the conversation just so we can kind of throw it out there that you know? Even though it seems like, okay, that's gonna happen, and so that's gonna make it easier, we'll we'll talk about the net benefit of that. So with that being said, thanks for being super patient, Cardano and then Adele, and then, we'll go to Vicky. What's up, Mays?
Thank you so much for, for inviting me up, have me up. It is always such a pleasure to to hear from you and to encounter you in such, pleasantly eclectic and diverse contexts, you know, from rooms such as these and, you know, all over the map. And shout out to Simon, Rance, Augustus, the rest of the room, ID Coop, Josie. And, yeah, such a Yeah. We got some glazored today.
Amen, Josie. You already know. Together, we rise. Together, we rise. Right?
And we shine, and and we do the the whole thing together. And pray in the holy spirit. Let's get it. So it's such an important thing. Right?
These tariffs and and and the global impact, these discussions as they relate to to kind of cryptocurrency. I do wanna, like, you know, definitely, you know, send flowers to Simon's way. I think the conversation that and that that you have around this is very broad and diverse. And while I don't with anyone agree a % on everything, I I am refreshed by your perspective, and I am encouraged by the fact that we do do still have platforms where we can have these exchanges and hear these words because that is so important. So let's go, Simon.
Thank you for having these conversations that quite frankly many are afraid to. So, you know, shout out. Let's go. And but as far as these tariffs and maybe, you know, the impact of taxation and some of some of the the the silver lining. Right?
I I look at many of these these things like this incoming administration, for instance. Right? I don't agree with everything about it, but what is is and assignment's point, I also think it is wise to not expect this administration to work on your behalf. Whatever you may think of them. Right?
But you can position yourself to take advantage of what we're seeing from, for instance, BlackRock, the largest institutional asset manager in the world. Right? That is the canary in the coal mine. That is telling you where global old money flows, right, where that's going Bitcoin into 21,000,000 units, right, these hard cap supply assets. They're escaping inflationary fiat, and they're migrating to hard cap supply assets, hence gold and Bitcoin as Simon points out.
I think one way that I model this if I'm going silver lining because with the company that we have in this room, seven degrees or six degrees of separation, the conversations we have here could land in in oval rooms if you hear what I'm saying. Right? The way that we frame these conversations matter and in the same way that these markets are being rattled by ambiguity because what we have right now is we've learned that tariffs can suddenly encumber the world overnight. You know what else we know? They can they can unencumber us just as fast.
Just what was it? Twenty four hours ago? Policy was passed at 3AM, right, whether you agree with this administration or not. They have both houses of of of congress. Right?
They've got the house and the senate. So, things can happen very quickly. And so not only can the tariff environment change, but cryptocurrency advantages. So I like this model. Right?
If I if I was gonna get a model there and I was playing chess where everyone kinda wins, I would say this, you know, approval ratings and all this. Tariffs are an auspice to renegotiate debt in a failing system. Right? Interest rates, negotiations, and all that in US dollar to name dom denominated, circles, right, and circumstances. Whereas, we can create tax advantages with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency assets.
Imagine suddenly the landscape if you're an individual making under a hundred and $50,000 that makes that pays no capital gains on Bitcoin and and other digital assets? What if, for instance, you're a small coffee shop or a burrito shop? Someone was talking about a a taco truck in one of these circles. What if there's a small business moving moving less than $10,000,000 a year? What if suddenly you pay zero, zero on all all business that is conducted with Bitcoin and these kinds of things.
Right? So there is ambiguity and policy that can still fall favorably that completely changes the game. And when we talk about international trade, imagine that discussion with China. To trade with us in US dollar denominations, 20% tariffs. Trade with us in Bitcoin, 0 percent, 3 percent.
Right? So there's so much, on the table. There's so much ambiguity, and I think we're running into our fear and our uncertainty when we should also be embracing the ways in which we can actually, advantage the people because that's another thing. I think Simon very cogently points out, when we roll through these rooms and these days when we talk about politics and we hear people dismissed because they have a certain hair color and they're this or they they wear a certain color hat, so they're that, that is divide and conquer. Right?
That is big money behind the scenes that runs on far longer time cadences than four years. It's the big money that runs the show against the people. Things like Bitcoin, these decentralized networks, as Simon says, that's how we fight back. Right? We we decentralize our money.
We decentralize our communications. We dis decentralize our data storage or or or the cloud, our computation. Is every crypto, bro? Is every crypto, bro, just coming up with a silver spoon? I'll I'll land this plan, man.
Bags are we get it. Your bags are down. Yeah. Hey. Hey, brother.
It's all up. All up. I'm just trying to, you know It's not all fun. It's how we're going to Ivy, he's waited forever to talk. Okay?
Please let him finish what he's saying without interrupting. They're they're not even they're not even saying anything. I'm just saying. You just interjected, but let him let him let him finish. Good, Cardano.
I'm so sorry. He's probably done. Yeah. No. All good.
All good, Mace. And truly, brother, you know, I'm just trying to spread. Knowledge is power. Do with this what you will. Right?
Like, I, for instance, am not gonna make money in XRP. Right? Because, yes, it has a hundred billion supply, but they're making, relationships with banks. Right? They're the new banks.
They are the CBDC. If you don't see that, right, so that's why I go with Bitcoin, Litecoin Cardano. Decentralized How would you not make money with a sharp sense? Hold on. Let me I digress.
Right? I wanna keep the the discussion, you know, brief and on point. As Simon points out, how do we fight back? We embrace the centralization assets that are beyond masters or kings, beyond centralized in interested institutions, and we see that these centralized in interested institutions are migrating their value to this asset. So if you get in early, whether you agree with those billions of dollars from Amazon or Berkshire Hathaway or an oil company to come.
Right? Because imagine, right, proof of work runs on oil. So even if we electrify vehicles, guess what Chevron can do? Right. Run Bitcoin miners.
See the game theory there? But, also, let me land on a plane with this. We don't need to rely on the military industrial complex to have hope in these assets. A kid with a smartphone in India or Africa can make banger content and monetize that talent with Bitcoin, with Litecoin, with Cardano, with these international borderless and free assets that give us personal sovereignty and autonomy and, allow us to be unfettered by petty tyrants and, large, interests and whatnot. So shout out to free conversations.
Shout out to May's love, The Room, Simon, Rance, DJ Satoshi, Josie, Ivy, and, I cede the floor. Thank you for, the time and the conversation. Yeah. I gotta I gotta add my very quick comment, which is my opinion. Bitcoin is the only thing that's decentralized.
Everything else is a centralized sign up. You know, I just now looked at the comments, and people said that right. I don't know if it's breaking news or what, but apparently, Trump, did a ninety day pause on all tariffs except for China. I'm wondering if any of those I'm gonna look this up to to verify while we go to Adele, who's been waiting patiently. And that's Just put quickly on that.
That's what he did last time. Ford. He did that last time. I'll just be quick. He did he did that last time and then changed the narrative.
Actually, no. Somebody else said it last time, so make sure you find out who said it. But the only one that matters is is China. Everything else is irrelevant. It's the China America trade war, the only thing that matters.
Yeah. I was gonna say it's like, it doesn't matter if it's just, like, except China. Oh. I was looking at it. He did post it looks like he did post it.
He's doing a 25% tariffs on China and then ninety day pause on everyone else, but definitely verify. I was just gonna say that it. Chaos creates opportunities, so I'm a % on board with what Simon's saying, whether all of the details are correct or not. I bought into this kind of thinking, in 2021 whenever all of our four zero one k's are basically free of any type of fees to cash them out, and then I put it in Bitcoin. But I had been buying Bitcoin for years prior to that already.
And I also believe in buying local, like, going to the decentralization. Buying local as much as possible is going to be what's, you know, super important to local economies. I know Rance talks about this a lot. Maze, there's many others that talk about it. You know, I am 100% invested in this company that has gone out and they've decentralized the, ranching in, not just America but across the globe.
Like, if you go to beefmaps.com, you can find a local rancher where you can go out to their ranch, meet the rancher, actually buy your beef from someone who's local in your area. I think it's a great project. But, if you guys are interested, it's beefmaps.com. And then I've also kinda situated my life around AI. It's what all of my certifications are in in technology.
So I highly recommend a lot of the things that he's recommended for, decentralizing, all of their power. And if more and more people do these types of things, then it's gonna give them less and less power. So % on board with that. So I just wanted to to voice that. Yeah.
Adele's gonna be fine. Do what Adele says. Awesome. Alright. Vicky, thank you so much for being patient.
Then we'll go to Prometheus, and I wanna tap in with Augustus and see what he thinks. And if anybody else wants to chime in, we'll take all that. Hi, Vicky. Go ahead, hon. Hi.
Hi, all. Good evening. So, I would appreciate this, back and forth. So because I have one very short question, which, I think nobody, neither here nor other financial spaces, has addressed and is of acute personal, you know, and general, curiosity for me. And then I have couple of, general comments.
So the question is about the VC industry and the Silicon Valley, whether the current chaos will affect, this way or another, investments flowing within, US, like, into American companies or outside, you know, overseas companies? This is the first question, and then I will, just share my comments about general situation and, again, points that I haven't heard mentioned anywhere. Yeah. Silicon Valley is gonna be fine. Silicon Valley is, a department of the military industrial complex.
They're they're gonna be fine. Okay. That's great to hear. Uh-oh. Did we lose her?
It wasn't so great to hear. She just she threw her phone at the wall. Oh, no. I wasn't sure if it was me because I'm not hugging my router like I was before. Vicky, are you there?
Uh-oh. She dropped. Maybe she had a phone call. Oh, she's back. Okay.
Let's do a mic check for you, Vicky. There you go. Connected. Don't know why. So, anyway, thank you for your, optimism on the matter because it's, of personal, relevance to me.
Another comment, and I well, I'm in Israel, actually, and I I hear your picture of the, you know Boo. Boo. On stop, Ivy. Seriously. Because it because I I I I'm trying to close here in the next fifteen minutes.
I would love to hear her thoughts and anybody else's that wants to chime in. But go go ahead, Vicky. Okay. Thank you. So global pessimism about, you know, both Israel and Europe and other places, I think it's a bit premature.
We had in Israel, in particular, we had our share of, political shit even before the war. And, actually, that shit was steered by US, by a particular person. Actually, we have his name, who financed, this right wing horrendously right wing think tank that came with an idea, of judicial reform here, which was, probably, which would probably get us into autocracy, religious autocracy. His name is Jeff Yas. He's very close to Trump, and he actually a shareholder in, TikTok in, in, you know, I think the umbrella company, of TikTok.
So yeah. And people actually went into the streets. We protested, mass protest and everything. So, and this ties to to Europe. I wouldn't actually discard popular revolt and, popular displeasure so quickly because there is one, you know, ages old axiom.
If if the plebs don't have money for for focuses, Ridge won't be driving their lambo gels. There's a lot of No matter I understand what you're saying. So there was somebody here in The US that funded a think tank, and that think tank was what was responsible for trying to reform the Israeli government to remove the judicial branch to kind of give more direct power to the prime minister. Yes. And that's what That's it.
Okay. This is interesting. Yeah. And, the thing is that Israel has a very particular demographic. Right now, I think about 60% of Israeli population are on some sorts of religious scale.
I mean, light religious, you know, traditional, whatever. I mean, settlers are the crazy ones, of course, but the rest of the population, the rest of the population is also on some sorts of, you know, some sorts of, tie to to to religious concepts. So when you give when you have a right wing coalition and you give all due respect, ma'am. You sound like Hold on a second. Let I be Eastern Europe.
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No Stop it. Go ahead, Vicky. Sorry. Don't even pay attention to him right now. So when you give, really unchecked power to to that group of people, it doesn't come out very, very well.
So we went out into the streets to protect the thing, and then the October 7 happened. Now regarding you, again, you you are writing obituaries too too early in my, in my view because there is no stronger power than the underdog. Okay? I think Europeans maybe slowly are coming to to grips with the with their situation. Today, there was announced that, for example, Scholz has agreed a coalition only with, with SDU.
So it will be a two party coalitions are going to do reforms, including, reconsidering the nuclear power. So, I don't share your bleak version or bleak, you know, scenario for Europe regarding UK. Sadly, I'm not too encouraged. I lived in UK for some time, and, I still have friends in UK. And, it saddens me greatly, you know, to see the state of affairs there.
Now regarding wiping out middle class, as I pointed out before, I disconnected, you can build all economic scenarios you want. But unless unless, the elites come out with a model economic model how to maintain their lifestyle from robots. As I said, if the plebs don't have money for focuses, rich won't be driving their Lamborghinis. It's a very basic, it's a very a very basic axiom. You cannot have, the rich, the elites, the 1%, call them whatever you want, cannot have their riches with dissatisfied and impoverished masses because the masses, still have a certain power.
Now another major problem is that nobody matters and, nobody, mentions in this whole economic, whatever, chaotic, context with regard to China as well is in a inverted demographic pyramid. You have a huge swath of aging populations, which live forever, but in a decaying state, and you have negative, birth rates except for Africa. And, actually, Africa is also moving into, lower, lower birth rates. Now you have to tackle it because if, Simon, I follow your logic. You wipe middle you wipe out middle class.
You have bloody, you know, centenarian zombies with Alzheimer's who live forever. I mean, where will the money come from for the for for the elites? And, actually, the saddest solutions that I've been seeing, it's like Canadian made. And, you know, I think in Netherlands and Belgium, they also have it. Now listen.
Personally, I am for assisted, dying. Because, you know, right now, I kick ass this, but I wouldn't like my my son, you know, to to, pawn his future, I think, wiping my ass or, you know, slaving out just to to to have a carrot to wipe my ass. Personally, I am for assisted dying. Because at a certain point, when a when a person loses their minds, they lose everything, and their physical existence is meaningless. But I and in China, you know, China is, going to half in about, I think, twenty or thirty years.
Actually, right now, I think they're already in the negative, population growth. It will be a second year, I think. So, anyway could yeah. I was just I'm I'm rocking yeah. I'm rocking up.
So Yeah. So can you land, please? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm rocking. Go ahead. So what I'm saying is that with you know, there are many other variables that, smart analysts, you know, and experts seem not to take into account, which can actually impact and change the whole, outcome. This is what I wanted to say. Thank you for the mic.
Okay. Hold on. Just call this time to say that. Hold on. No.
It's fine. Let's not be rude, guys. Alright? That's not how Maze runs her space. I appreciate everyone.
Everyone's like a guest on my stage whether we agree with them or not. It's just about respect and hospitality. That's all. Josie's my little, you know, she's my firecracker. But, anyway, go ahead, Simon.
Jump in. Yeah. I'll give I'll I'll try and get fire fireside answers because I speak too long. Let me try and do short. I open the door to any Israeli that, would like to be anti genocide.
You're a very important part of the ecosystem, and I'm sorry your government managed to brainwash so many people and radicalized both Christians, Muslims, and Jewish people. It was the mafia. It was a partnership between the Italian mafia, the Rothschild family, the British crown, and the Jewish mob. And they don't give a shit about Jewish people, Christian people, Muslim people. In fact, they see you as indispensable, and they will kill you, rape you, massacre you, whenever it's useful for them.
And so any Israeli that wants to see outside that psyop, I think you're a very useful, like, part of the movement, and I always wanna welcome that open door, for that. With regards to solving demographic issue, that's why we're entering into a robotics and AI world. Humans are no longer useful in the world of the next ten to twenty years, other than the ones that have figured out over the next ten years how to become economically powerful. Economic power is gonna determine which side you sit on, and the rest are gonna be universal basic income. And so that's how you solve that issue.
You move to a, you move to a surveillance state, a technocracy. And the problem is with protest is the protest, as George Soros has teached us, use is always co opted and used to actually achieve the opposite of what the original intention was. And so by manufacturing consent to opt out of rights, moving over to a technocracy, then you're able to, fully control the masses and any, and what is happening in Israel right now on the Palestinian people is a beta test of what will be integrated into the European Central Bank digital currency and the American stablecoins, where if you try and protest, they'll treat you as a Palestinian, and they'll kill you. Oh, sorry. Why not kill all the Alzheimer's?
Why wait ten or twenty years? Because Well, you gotta you gotta do what Israel did. You gotta slowly try and get away with it. You can't just outright genocide. You gotta make it look like, you're you're controlling the narrative before you execute it.
You know, you gotta you gotta make it look realistic. You gotta control the media. You gotta slowly do it, and, otherwise, you might screw up the whole strategy, especially if a bunch of people have Bitcoin and they have independence and they're decentralized, which is where we all need to fight back together. Alright. I'm gonna, I'm gonna reserve my comment because I I, you know, I don't know about the whole assisted, you know, killing thing.
That's a little bit it is an interesting I will say that in The United States with the whole Social Security being already you know, they're borrowing against it. So there would be some sort of incentive, if you will, to, I don't know, to to pull off something for the for the baby boomers that are about to retire by 2030, which I am a little nervous about. But I'm gonna just alchemize that and say that, hopefully, we'll get it together by then, guys. With that being said, let's go to to Curry, and then we'll go to, the gosh. Thoreau.
I think that's how I pronounce it. Apologies. Okay. Awesome. Go ahead.
And then we'll go to Prometheus. Thank you, mate. It's, was great space, and thank you, Simon, for giving insight and everything. I think, you know, from the perspective that we are actually reading all the financial financial markets and the money flow and and crypto and all that, I think there's inherently something built in, which we haven't really discussed. You know, in in all the midst of it, like, I was gonna actually talk about that, the scenario soon is gonna be an unfolding that where this is gonna be paused or this is gonna be delayed and everything.
And while we were discussing that, the news came in. What kind of impression you are actually giving out to the world? That's the biggest question mark. You know, the credibility The US had at some point in time that it doesn't go alone. It gets the allies with them and then ultimately actually crack the problem, open and then creates another problem in order to actually solve one problem.
Now in this scenario, what is actually happening? What kind of messaging is happening? Now you go into the Columbia. You send, you know, the plane load of people. The head of the state actually says, okay.
Turn around and go back. And then you slap them, like, with a 50% tariff. And the guy says, oh, here we go. I'm gonna send my planes to actually bring those people back in, and then you can send more. You go to Panama.
You go to, Venezuela, and you start to actually get the objectives, meet within no time. And people started loving it. But do you go to Canada? And then all of a sudden, like, you go on the pause for thirty days, and then the moment it gets affected to it, Canada, Canada rise up and say, oh, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do that.
And and all of a sudden, what happens is there's a criticalness in this whole scenario inherently that Canada can actually switch off your electricity, and all of a sudden, like, three or four states can actually have the rolling blackouts. Now there are going to be the countries who can actually stand up. Now there is a pattern. So you can actually divide those number of countries into two groups. One is gonna actually stand up, and the other one is gonna actually say, appeasement policy is gonna go.
So UAE is gonna say, okay. We can actually invest in US One Point Four, One Point Two Trillion Dollars. Saudi is gonna say, hey. We're gonna raise up our $600,000,000,000 commitment to $1,000,000,000,000 now. But there are going to be the countries who's gonna actually stand up.
Now you cannot play this game of, like, within an hour, you can actually keep on pausing. What kind of messaging is gonna be done? I mean, these tariffs are not switched on and off buttons that you can just simply say, okay. I'm gonna actually, have this money, 29%, twenty six %, fifty four %, forty five %. This is not a game.
The actual ships are endued to The US. What happens? Like, I mean, there are logistics involved with these tariffs. When they actually hit the shores of US and start unloading, how are you gonna charge them? How are you gonna implement them?
What kind of messaging has been going on? So, basically, the whole world is at their toes and realizing that what exactly is happening, what White House actually wants. Even the White House staff doesn't know exactly what's gonna be the next policy is gonna be. So here you have a superpower who is actually doing all this mixed messaging, and the rest of the world is saying, okay. Fine.
Half of the world is gonna actually say that we're gonna actually fight back. The rest of the half is gonna be following a policy of appeasement, and there is no clear outcome. It's not the matter of, like, how the money is gonna flow, how the small business is gonna be crippled, how the the actual production is gonna come in from China or not. It's about the messaging. This is about the responsive responsiveness that one super superpower has to actually show to the world that they have what it takes to become a superpower or contain it.
And this is what the underlining message is that we have to really look at it. That four pillars of the state is what they are doing. Last time what has happened, the actual supreme court actually stepped in and tried to actually balance it. Right now, what is happening that the the White House on steroids making decisions, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and we are becoming a circus in this whole saga. So that's where I want some comment from Simon.
But do you think that US is very fast losing its place to become a responsible super superpower? Thank you. Yeah. I'll answer quick. So the difference between how you think and how I think, is you think that countries making their own decision.
I believe that global financial institutions control the world, and they pay politicians to do what they want to do. And so, therefore, countries are doing what global finance wants them to do, And I believe that global finance wants to break the world into regions, and shrink America into a regional power for robotics and AI, and, and and usher in a, a a stable coin technocracy. And, therefore, I don't believe that Trump and all these countries and all these reactions, their their job is to just, you know, create the chaos that's needed in order to usher in the eventual world order that, global finance, which is consists of a few people, are able to direct the world into. And that's the key difference. And then in terms of what that means, go back to the beginning of this recording if you weren't there, and I outlined where I think it all it all goes in longer form.
You think there's a method to this madness? My argument Yeah. Jacob. The the chaos is the is the strategy. It it is the chaos.
It it's literally nobody knows what's happening. I mean, if you look at it like it's past two months, the the erratic behavior of making this critical decisions, which has to actually streamline. I mean, there is a operations element attached to whatever decision you make. How this is gonna be implemented, that's what it is. I see just a chaos.
I do not see any method to it. That's what my argument is. Over to you. You have chaos as a strategy. It is.
It is. Alright. Let's go to, Thoreau, then we'll go to Josie, and then I'll get final thoughts. And then we're gonna shut this down after that. Go ahead, Thoreau.
Thanks for being Hey, Mays. When when do I go? I I was gonna say Mays and, you know, for me to Sorry. Go ahead, Thoreau. Sorry.
Oh, I was just saying Mays and Simon. I I believe Prometheus was up first, but, I'll just I I just came on to say thanks, for doing the show. I really enjoy when Simon just gets to run on like this. It really because a lot of people will interrupt him and and stop him. And I, anyway, I just appreciate you letting him just it's just a lot of fun to listen to him.
You know, whether we agree on a % of the points or anything, it just doesn't even matter to me. I just like the way he lays it out. So, anyway, thanks a lot, guys. Have a good day. Yeah.
That that's the point as well. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm just giving you my theory, put myself on the line, and, I'll adjust it when I'm wrong. And I welcome pushback. Well, what I appreciate about you, Simon, is that, you know, you didn't you began learning everything about economics a long time ago, and I think all of the world events recently kind of red pilled you, for lack of better word, as to what's going on.
But your ability to actually have first of all, the capacity to really see the world in the way that it is is very difficult for many. Not only do you do that, but you have this calm about you. You have the strategies about you. You have the, you know, what people can do to kind of, you know, to to maybe make it through the turbulence that we're about to, feel. And I think it it's just it's very refreshing.
That's why I just I love when he talks uninterrupted, and a lot of people obviously are very tuned in and listening to him because he's very knowledgeable. And he's very objective too. I don't think that he's got any, motives to steer anybody in any narrative. You know, he's fluid. That Bitcoin.
I got a Bitcoin, Yeah. I know. You do. Well and and and on that point, let me make my closing remark here because this is what I would say on your point, Simon, about the other the psy ops. I would say this.
If these interests, as we we know, big money is that good at creating these psy ops, Satoshi wouldn't want Bitcoin to be the only solution. Game theory and all that, it may we don't wanna have Titanic be the only ship. And I would say the Edinburgh decentralization index, totally different conversation. But if we wanna have a real conversation about the validation networks, the distribution, decentralization of not only the hardware, but the the minds that are saying, yes. I will run the software, all that.
Awesome discussions, but I echo everything that May said. I celebrate your discussions, your perspectives. The bravery to have the discussions is great because it gives us that that that that ground where whatever the outcome is, we can change the case for Cardano. Name one use case for Cardano. Use case for Cardano.
Use case for Cardano. Let's not it's it's not Name one use case. Yeah. Amen. Amen, Simon.
Amen, Simon. I appreciate you appreciate you, bro. I appreciate you too, miss. Hey, Ivy, if you gotta you know, we're good, bro. You it seems I get you emotional.
I apologize for the troublemaker. Ivy is just a I know. He has a fun little. He likes to troll people on stage sometimes. That's all.
Alright. But, look, I think it's important you But I but I I agree I agree with Ivy. I'm not a Cardano man, just for the record. Yeah. We had to put that out there.
Thank you, Sam. Okay. So what I do wanna say is that maybe we should have a space where we kind of focus in on the importance of decentralization. Like, literally, that's the entire topic and and what that looks like on different scales. I mean, I think the data scale is one thing.
The so they're creating these sandboxes, guys. So, like, for instance, Honduras. There's an island in Honduras where they've already started this. It was kind of the pilot of sorts of where they're, you know, advancing all kinds of tech, and alternative tech. Like, you know, what what, like, the the digital IDs that would be, you know, essentially used, and they they use it as, like, a simulation of sorts before they roll it out.
They wanna create one of these in Greenland as well. And I'm working on this article that I have yet to release, because it keeps you know, the it's so much going on, and I wanna make sure that, like, I'm getting all the well like, a very well rounded perspective around it. But I do think that we're kind of advancing, into the next paradigm very quickly. And a lot of the things that we're focused on and, you know, I mean, these things are very important, obviously, tariffs and, you know, how that's gonna impact our economy and and our quality of life, cost of living, everything is is very important. But I also think that, you know, the other political, like, everybody's, like, waiting for the Epstein files while they're kind of, you know, really moving very fast, towards advancing tech and and ID and data that is intended to create what's called a sim a sentient world assimilation.
I'm gonna have a whole space on this. It's coming soon. And what does that mean? It's it's it's really, really important for us to break down what centralization should look like and be pushing for that and making sure there's a feedback loop. That, I think, deserves its own space.
So with that being said, let's go to Prometheus and then Josie and then back over to Simon for final thoughts, and then we're gonna close this one down. But continue to share it, guys, because all the information that was shared is very important as recorded. Go ahead, Prometheus. Thank you, Mays. And what a space we have had.
Simon, big thank you for your deep and thoughtful insights. I've personally learned a lot, took a lot of notes. I'm going to be following up on the money transfer flow directions that he's been pointing out. Definitely a lot of what Simon says holds water. We are going to see a section of the world for sure that is going to be under technocracy.
And, May, as you know me, I love throwing in the spiritual dimension in all of this, and, I truly believe we're living through prophecy, folks. We're living, in the early stages of what will eventually become the mark of the beast system. And that is essentially a blockchain based system that will determine essentially through the equivalent of CBDCs, implanted under the skin, by the way, through a chip of some kind, whether you'll be able to buy or sell. Now if you want to escape that system, there are ways to still do it. It hasn't been implemented yet.
Okay? And this is where, Simon, I think I'm going to respectfully, sir, disagree with you on a couple premises because I believe central banks are not the one who's in control. I believe Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ is in control, first and foremost. And I do believe that we, the people, have a lot more power than we give ourselves credit for. We work together, ladies and gentlemen, we can create a decentralized nation state, and we can actually like, Cardano you god bless Cardano.
Listen. Whether you hate love it or hate it, it's pioneered decentralized governance in a way. Maze, you have to look at their constitution. Okay? It is phenomenal.
I truly believe it is a step in, you know, in democracy the last We're not we're we're not going down that route. I I appreciate it, but I just kind of maybe any of your thoughts on what Simon was saying about the tariffs or any of that stuff, that would be great. You can leave in the spirituality. He always sprinkles it. Go ahead.
I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll get into it. So look. Trump is a mixed No. No. She said we weren't doing that today.
No. It's okay. He's the one I'm getting into. See. Good.
Oh my god. But, like, come on. Like, they can't even make a microchip that tracks my dog on my three sixty. Like, are we really gonna talk about that? Isaiah 45, Cyrus of the end times.
But, you know, look, that doesn't mean that he's he's right about everything. And certainly with tariffs, look. If you want to bring industry back into The United States, including manufacturing, this is how you do it. It's it's you have to make it more incentivized for global capital to come invest in The United States. And look, the numbers to his extent show this.
The he's raised literally trillions in weeks. I don't know of any other president in history who's done that. Now does that mean that everything he's doing is going to benefit the ordinary people? That's a good question. Okay?
It's he raised it from Saudi Arabia. He raised it from SoftBank in Japan. You know, they're putting down, several several hundred billion themselves. And so this is going to manifest to some degree in industry in The United States. But as Simon pointed out, a lot of this is going to go up to the top one percentile, you know, like zero or the 0.01 percentile.
Right? Your Elons, your, you know, your, Klaus Schwab types. Okay. Well, Elon is not a Klaus Schwab, but, like, you know, just the top percentile. And so what is it that we, the people, can do?
And I'm gonna land with this point. Alright? What you can do and everyone who's in this audience can do, okay, is keep coming to spaces like these. You know, Maze hosts a lot of really informational and positive spaces where we actually discuss real solutions. Okay?
We can leverage this technology and especially Bitcoin. I am not anti Bitcoin. Okay? I'm just, you know, a mixed martial artist guy. I think, you know, there's value in all kinds of systems, and you have to sift through the bullshit, to find the real gems.
I consider ADA to be one of the gems, and I am a Cardano man, but, you know, to each their own. And so every every one of you who's in the space, please study about these new technologies. Find different ways to become independent. You can create vertical farms in your local area. You can pool resources together with your neighbors and and start investing to become independent.
This is the most important thing we can do together and, of course, you know, create community, create networks. Okay? When we work together, we can solve hard problems. And with that, Maize, I'm gonna land. Thanks so much.
Thank you, Prometheus. Alright. We're gonna go to Josie, and then we get to hear from TruthTeller. And then I have a few thoughts, that just came to me based on a couple of things, and then we're gonna, get Simon's final thoughts, and then we're gonna be out of here. Okay.
Go ahead, Jesse. Holy cow. I swear some people take longer to land in Spirit Airline at LAX. Okay. So I've got a question from somebody.
Hold on. Said ask ask Simon what percent chance does he think he could be wrong and Trump could be correct? I think I I don't know what he they mean by Trump is correct. But, I I think Trump Trump is here to fulfill a a deep state mission. And, I I'll tell you what I'll say.
I'll say I'll know how I'm wrong. I'll know if I'm wrong if he ends the Fed, releases stable coins that pay the yield onto the consumer rather than to himself, Elon, and everybody else, implements a Bitcoin strategic reserve, and releases the Epstein files and nine eleven files and JFK files that actually re reveal Mossad for their true role. If he does all of that, then I believe he's MAGA. If he doesn't do that, then I believe that he's, fulfilling a mission of who paid for him, blackmailed him, and, potentially assassinates him if he doesn't do it. I have a question for you, but I'll I'll wait.
Go ahead. Truth teller, how are you? Love, welcome. Thanks for Hi, truth. Mace, quickly on this particular point before we actually move on.
Simon, what if he is, kind of, like, realizing this that the deep state is gonna be ultimately after him? Well If he had on, you know, implement all those things, what you are actually doing. Can't really get best. Like, if if if there is let's just say, if there is any type of blackmail or whatever, you know, I don't know that whether he realizes it, it's already held against him. I think Simon's not saying that, like, he was all kind of in partnership and then said, oh, you know, maybe these are bad guys.
I think, you know, I don't know what's going on, but I'll just tell you But but but Yeah. I don't I don't question motivation. I I just question what do I what I see. So I I try not to add a why has he you know, what is his motivation? Is he a good person or bad person?
Like, if somebody is gonna assassinate my family, steal all my money, ransom me, put me next to photos with Jeffrey Epstein and some children, then I'm no longer independent. I'm just a victim of the state. Now whether he's making shitloads of money, I I think that's all irrelevant. To me, I just follow the money, figure out what I think's coming next, and help people position so that they can protect themselves because I think it's a massive distraction to believe that, Trump's their savior. In fact, I think it's very disempowering, because if you believe he's gonna save you, then I think, actually, that's a distraction between you and the creator.
And and I think that's the only relationship that people should have. And everyone else in the middle is a flawed human being just like me. I get shit wrong. I get shit right. But I I'm just trying to say, I don't really care why Trump is compromised.
I just believe he is. And what should you do in order to protect yourself and your community around you? Simon, really quickly, and then we'll go to Umtruth. Do you think that this tariff war, this back and forth with China was, like it went wrong? Like, he didn't expect the response and then ego and narcissism got in the way?
Like, why are we at a hundred and what now percent? I just feel like that's a possibility and perhaps, you know, with, like I or I don't know. It just seems to be a huge challenge. I think, yeah, I think this went right, and I think the idea was to shake up the entire world market and reposition the world in the position that, global finance has has is gonna profit from. Okay.
Yikes. Alright. Truth, tell her. Try that. How are you, love?
Go ahead and jump in, and then, we're gonna go to final thoughts and close down. And truth is gonna tell and truth is gonna tell us who Global Finance is. Why did you wait Simon, you're the self proclaimed expert. I can't teach you anything. You already know.
We talk about it all the time. I was gonna talk about the tariffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Talk about the tariffs. There's someone who also mentioned that Trump's raising money by cutting back on USAID etcetera even though the courts have already rejected a lot of those, cuts. But then let's not forget that Trump's also spending a lot more money as well. He's trying to create the first ever trillion dollar defense budget, So much for savings that supposedly others are gonna re benefit from because there's gonna be redistribution of this, you know, this new found wealth from all these raised billions of dollars. Guess what?
It's just getting spent elsewhere. So the American tax pay doesn't benefit worth anything. Going back to the tariffs, well, to again, I've said this from the very beginning. Can't really engage in a successful tariff war when you don't have a manufacturing base already that's thriving or in some way competitive it's not, especially when you've shipped off a lot of jobs for a a lot of the goods you make, and you're importing a lot of the goods from China already. It's like $600,000,000,000 worth of trade already with, China.
And, yes, there's a big deficit. I don't think tariffs are really gonna fix that or help, the the manufacturing that Trump has in mind. It's it's wishful cope. It's gonna cause a lot of inflation and instability in the markets and probably lead to recession, and Trump's hope has also increased, the yield curves. I'm sure Simon's noticed that as well.
Do you know what that does? That increases the debt interest payment that goes to the Federal Reserve. So they're loving these policies. Because guess what? Now they're not gonna drop rates because they're loving these higher interest payments.
So that that's, that's gonna fail as well, which means Trump somehow can't lower taxes now because he still has to make those interest payments or there's gonna be a default. So there's no win here really for America. It's gonna be a given. Yeah. There there will be an eventual meeting with China.
There's supposed to be a meeting with, I guess, Iran. He's meeting with Iran this what was it? Saturday in Oman to discuss another another nuclear deal? If I'm Iran, I'm like, you fooled me once with the other nuclear deal. Am I really gonna get fooled twice with a second one to give up our the missile program as well because he's just adding all he's gonna, I believe, structure it in such a way that he's gonna make an offer that they simply have to refuse because because it's just not gonna be in their national interest to even consider it.
So I think in one way, shape, or form, it's gonna entail normalizing relations with Israel. I don't think Iran has any appetite to do that because you just can't trust the devil, really. But okay. Going back to the tariffs overall. Did you know that Netanyahu came up here, like, I think it was yesterday or the day before?
Yes. You did. Okay. And, he he fit he adjusted his chair again. How nice.
And, of course, you know, Trump has Oh, yeah. That's right. Equivalent of, the wailing wall and pay you know, kiss the ring again, and they all I don't know why. It seems like it's more so than with Biden. They have to show Netanyahu sitting and signing things.
It's like he's signing the executive orders on behalf of Trump. He's like, get out of the way, kid. The the man the the real president's in charge now. You can stand and watch. I'll let you know if I need anything.
Sit go stand in the corner over there. That's what it that's what it looked like. That's that's the, the sense I got from that image that you could clearly see the power dynamic, and Trump Trump's big ego was definitely contained. Just can't say or do whatever he wants around Netanyahu because if he does, he's gonna get spanked. Then the only thing that he said that kind of annoyed Netanyahu was when he said that he's gonna be negotiating with Iran.
And, yeah, that might peeve Netanyahu. At the end of the day, he knows that it's for PR. They have they have to, you know, say they're gonna engage in the negotiation to see how much they can get out of Iran, but it's also a spying session to find out what they're more of what they're up to. Of course, they're gonna record the whole conversation, and they're gonna try to dig and see what, they can find out before they'll probably reject any offer that's made because it's an all or nothing deal that they're trying to offer. Why would Iran wanna rely on centrifuges and nuclear fuel from Russia when they already know how to do the whole process themselves, and it's their right to develop energy for peaceful purposes.
Because why should they just have to rely on oil and natural gas when there's fluctuations in that price? Every nation should seek energy independence. Iran is no exception here. So, again, going back to the tariffs, waste of time to engage in a tariff for China will win. China's also provides the majority of the world's essential or precious minerals, metals that are used for lots of electronic items, including, guess what, arms.
US arms industry is gonna get fucked again, as well because they rely, again, on guess who, for those precious minerals. On China, that's where they get 80% of the precious minerals. So unless they're willing to remove all of their bullshit environmental protections, it should never be known for a place where he has way too much power and control, and America shouldn't even exist among the 430 government agencies. Because if Trump is really serious about cutting back on government slash a lot of those agencies that have a whole lot of redundancies, like, between an NSA, between its Department of Homeland Security and the CIA, FBI, all these different divisions for security, and there's there's many more, by the way. Just named four.
Why do you need so many? Cut back on those. You can save lot billions and billions of dollars consistently, but he's not doing that. And this whole claim that he's now making $2,000,000,000 a day on tariffs, they just went into play. You haven't made a dime yet because there's gonna be impact on trade, but he likes to make these huge proclamations without actually pointing out.
And I did the math for everybody about how much more it means when the deficit at $37,000,000,000,000 goes up by point 1%. It's an extra it's it's it's an extra 36 or $37,000,000,000 that needs to get paid now towards the debt. There's no savings there. I'm sorry. And that current debt payment, I I did the math here.
Let me pull it up so I get the exact number. It's close to $2,000,000,000,000 a year now. Do you guys know what that adds up to per day, which Trump doesn't like to talk about? It's close to 4,000,000,000 oh, it's more than that, actually. I'll give you the exact amount in a second.
Why is it coming up? I gotta go to the profile. One second. I'll pull up the exact amount per day that has to get paid because he doesn't wanna talk about this amount. It's a ridiculous amount of money, and the amount is $4,500,000,000 per day that gets paid towards the current debt owing to the Federal Reserve, and this amount's only gonna go up higher as the yield curve goes up higher with these tariffs.
And, of course, as the debt goes up higher, because The US The US is gonna have to increase its debt ceiling once again just to avoid defaulting and losing its grip as low and its control as the world reserve currency that it currently has, that it may not have forever, but then Simon and I both discussed this before. The objective isn't to keep the dollars of world reserve asset. It's the Bank of America. I'll finish on this point that Netanyahu made back in 1990 that he views America as a golden calf that he's gonna chop up into bits, sell it off, and turn it into a welfare state. You can see that already with over 30,000,000 people that are homeless and in poverty, and many more live in paycheck to paycheck deciding between eating and heating, filling up their fridge, or filling up their gas tanks.
Americans are having to make tough decisions because their their financials have continued to decline, and it's happened incrementally. So don't really notice what the cause is. It's due to undue inflation, of course, unemployment that shouldn't exist. That's because of the Federal Reserve and, of course, the austerity measure of taxation, which Trump's doing nothing about. There should be no income taxes actually against the constitution and the income tax act amendment 16 has never been properly ratified.
But I'm not here to tell people not to pay their taxes. That's against the law. Don't be like Hunter Biden unless your dad's ex president, ex VP, and he can give you a pardon. So on that note, thanks for the space, the tariffs, sir. Again, an exercise in futility of fools, Aaron, won't help America at all.
If there's there's better things trust to be doing, my top three would be, of course, repealing the fed, getting rid of amendment 16, ending all the Jewish lobbies, and enabling better circumstances for American corporations to return by we're getting a very good tax break subsidy so this way they could try to compete with China just as China does and nationalize some of the companies rather than just give away free money. Thank you. Thanks, truth teller. You know, one of the things that, also, just for people to know, like, there's this idea that they're gonna completely do away with income tax, and that's gonna be replaced by tariffs. That's, again, misinformation.
And so I might do a space just to kind of But that is what it was. Before m 16, they used to collect excise taxes, and it was a much smaller government. You don't need a massive inflated government like you have if you're really serious about wanting to save on government consumption. Right. But you know what he's doing instead?
He's only saving for the top 1%. That's who's benefiting from this. The taxes that he's That's who gives them those are his donors. The tax donors, Simon, the Adelson's, the Kushner's, the Altman's, the point 1%. I mean, it's crazy, but I do I do think you'll get the It's those North Koreans, mace.
It's those China men. It's China. I I do think they will, throw some relief at the bottom. They I think they will give you that tax relief to those below a hundred and 50,000. But I think it's just to help you survive, like, because we don't wanna send the whole world into, like, civil unrest.
But I I do think he'll follow through the What's it gonna be, Simon? A $750 1 time check? Yeah. No. It's Well, that that will be with his with his stablecoin for adoption reasons.
The amount saved for the for the, okay. I have it broken out in three brackets. That's the thing. It's really the top 1% that actually save money, get more disposable income. The rest, it's very it's meant matter of fact, what they found was in, by 02/1927, it had a reverse effect.
Where is my other phone? Hold on. I have it in my notes. Where it's it's not hold on. I'm coming.
I'm coming. Okay. Boom. Here it goes. Alright.
So the adjustment okay. So the permanent extension, he wants to make the TCGA from 02/2017 permanent, introduced reductions in individual income taxes, which are set to expire at the end of twenty twenty five. He wants to make them permanent and ongoing relief to taxpayers too. The elimination of taxes on tips and overtime. So that is, I think, the element that is gonna be different.
So proposed plans include, exempting the tip income and overtime earnings and the federal taxation, and then the exemption of Social Security benefits from taxation. The administration has suggested removing these, from their retirement Social Security retirement and to enhance financial support for retirees. Now the corporate taxation. So further reduction of corporate tax rates. So reduction of corporate from 35 to 21.
There have been discussions about even lowering it further to 15% for the domestic production activities to stimulate economic growth. So the taxation of tax I mean, the consideration of tax increases for high earners. Apparently, there was recent discussions that indicated openness to raising tax rates on the highest earning Americans, suggesting a potential shift. So we'll see more to come on that. Revenue generation through tariffs.
We're okay. We already talked about that. Alright. Now Can I ask Simon a quick question? Yeah.
Yeah. And then yeah. I found those. Simon, so there's this meeting that Trump's gonna do in Oman with Iran. What are your thoughts on it?
Yeah. I think I think we're on, I think this is where truth and I differ, actually. I think that, I think okay. This is another one of my criteria of whether or to to judge Trump Trump by. I believe that the GCC has changed the power dynamics in the region, and I think Israel is no longer a useful tool and has been decapitated.
And Trump's just delivering as much strength to Israel in a what I think is actually gonna be a pretty big negotiation of, a change in the region. And I think the only way to achieve it, which a million things could go wrong, is, I think Iran would agree to a nuclear deal if Israel has the same. And so if Israel declares it's a legal nukes, which then opens up the question of why they assassinated the nuclear deal, Simon. No. I get it.
I get it. I think this is a very contrarian view, and and your the the probability is probably in your favor. But I'm taking a contrarian view here. I I think the the region is gonna be a new regional power, and it requires a a nuclear either both Iran and Israel, like, they have to be held to the same standard. And then you can and then I think that's, that's the deal that and there'll be a Palestinian state.
I I think global capital has decided that's more profitable than allowing for absolute World War three carnage because of the change in power structure with China and Russia aligning with Iran. So that's I I think that's what I that's what I think is happening, but I I get your argument. The other alternative is Israel gets its way. It goes to World War three, and Israel becomes the superpower of the region with its illegal nukes. But I did think this is powerful.
To be. I don't think it's binary like that. It's either, you know, they sign off on a deal or it's World War three. I I don't see that either. I see maybe them kicking the can down the road.
Trump's given this two month deadline. I think he might extend it. And, obviously, he can't impose any tariffs on Iran because, well, there's sanctions. They're not even allowed to trade with Iran, so it's not applicable. And people wonder, well, how come Russia doesn't have any sanctions on it?
Because there's, like, 23,000, sanctions on Russia. You can't trade them. So what's tariff? If there's any trade happening, it's black market trade, which you're not even supposed to know about. But just going back to Iran very quickly, I just don't see Iran accepting a deal that's gonna be favorable to it.
The day that Trump decides to treat Iran and Israel the same is the day that Palestinians will get equal rights in Israel. Good luck with that. It's it's an apartheid state. So, you know, I mean, if I'm Iran, I want the whole hundred billion dollars back that they've been that's been frozen since the eighties and all the interest, of course. I wanna have autonomy on on nuclear energy.
And, yeah, sure. I'll allow inspectors in. I I wouldn't actually because they're they're there to spy. They're not there to actually inspect anything, and I don't trust them either. Look what happened with Iraq.
So I would never accept the Libyan model, nor would I end my missile program, nor would I give up any of my alliances. So how can a deal be made? Like, I just don't see it happening. Because those alliances are are are helpful. They're on as well.
Right? It keeps, some level of balance. Obviously, not it's not an equal balance because all the Gulf States, Egypt, Jordan, and, of course, Turkey are working for the for NATO, essentially, and The US, Israel, etcetera. So if I'm Iran, you need your alliances. You can't give them up and just think that you're just gonna be integrated into into the full.
As as even though they have a lot of value to offer, Iran does, have a pretty good export economy beyond just, you know, oil and gas and and precious metals, minerals. They have a lot. They have, some say, between 30 to $40,000,000,000,000 of appraised assets. The US knows about it, and American corporations wanna get in there. It's the first thing they did.
When there was a nuclear deal in 02/2015, Boeing went in there to sell them both parts and new planes and also, you know, the oil and gas companies rushed in there to sign deals, but they had to cancel them all in 02/2017. So we know American corporations definitely wanna be in Iran. Trump does that's so that's where Trump does have, a challenge to deal with. You'll have to give them business elsewhere because I doubt he'll come up with a deal, but they'll kick the can down the road. And in the meantime, delay the onset of World War three for now.
That's my expectation. No deal gets signed in in in the near future. Yeah. Because he keeps giving extensions on everything. You know when you were in college and you always had that one professor who would always give you an extension?
What did you start doing? You started handing me I got my work done on time. Anticipating that. Right? I didn't.
I always negotiate online on day one, and it was always on the attendance policy. I'm like, look. I would meet with them after class, be like, look. You know, I would introduce myself and be like, I probably won't make this decision to talk to you. Doesn't work that way with men.
I did. I made deals. I I guaranteed it. I would cleavage to the voice mail so I can get out of his seat. I would never had a conversation with you.
Professor. Right? You had a conversation with me. This really quickly. Just so so now just really but quick back, we're gonna revert back to the taxes.
The low income Wait. I want us to make a point on that. The corporate tax rate Hurry up. I I have a hard stop, like, three minutes. So The corporate tax rate is not 35%.
It's not 21%. This is all propaganda. It's the effective tax rate for corporations is eight to 9%. They don't need a tax cut. They don't need a tax cut.
This is the unit party. They kept Trump's tax cut from 35 to 21%. Keep they kept it after Biden got elected, and they don't care. That's they're just thieves out in the open. They don't need another tax cut, but it just boosts up the stocks just like how they played all the normies today.
Oh, we're gonna put a tariff. Yeah. Okay. Keep going. Know that that's that's the thing.
I didn't know that it was I'm gonna look into that. But I just And, yeah, their money their money is not in America. Their money is offshore. Right. Okay.
So the low income individuals, from the last one in 02/2017, they they experienced the most modest benefits. However, analysis indicates that these benefits diminished over time. By 2027, many in this group could see tax increases due to the expiration of certain provisions. Maybe you saw Trump's announcement an hour ago. Right?
Which one? He's frozen all tariffs for ninety days except on China. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Okay. And then the middle income earners, households receive an average tax cut of approximately a thousand dollars translating to 1.3% increase, after their tax income. And then the high income earners benefited significantly both in absolute terms and in as a as a percentage of income. For instance, the top 1% of earners received an average tax cut of approximately $61,090 by 2025, equating to 2.9% increase in after tax income. So, anyway, I am just concerned about the people who are, kind of really, really struggling to make ends meet.
And I think, you know, I just I I do welcome, you know, any, like well, I'll have more spaces on this, obviously. I wanna definitely have one with you, Simon, about decentralization. Just kind of, like, zooming in on that. There's a lot of feedback, by the way. People really appreciate everything that you offer in terms of the light pill.
You know what I'm saying? I call it the light pill. Not even the white pill, but, you know, I just I just want people to really wake up and use your discernment. It's it's so important. I mean, I don't even care about being cool and being a part of a crowd.
I just want what's best for humanity, and I want us to be able to use, you know, our critical thinking and faculties and not, you know, just buy into this whole, like, blind trust since when did we do that as truth seekers? When did we ever do that? I just think, you know, it's important to continue to use those that critical thinking. But with that being said, I do see Paul up here, so I know he's always got a whole light pill moment for us as well. And then after that I'm not taking any more hands after Paul.
After we go to Paul, I'm gonna go to Simon for final thoughts, and then we'll and and rance if you wanted to say anything, and then we'll shut down. Go ahead, Paul. Well, I appreciate that. You said you have a hard stop, so I'm really gonna diminish what I was gonna say, because look. And I you know, it's it's a disagreement, really.
So, I respect Simon wholeheartedly on financial stuff. I respect truth with understanding our history and a lot of things. And the only place where I deviate from a lot that I've heard, I'm just someone of faith. So because it hasn't been enough time, I just think there's so much going on and there's so many battles that are being fought on so many fronts that I'm not just gonna assume the worst yet. And for that reason, I still have faith that Trump is America First.
I don't think we're puppets to Israel. I understand all the facts of why it's thought that, but I do think that what we're doing right now is to fix all the corruption from within. I think we have a lot of time. You're literally retarded. That's that's hey.
I didn't interrupt you, so don't interrupt me. Oh, my god. I didn't Yeah. And that's fine. Okay.
Again, I didn't interrupt you. I've been quiet with my hand up. So That's good. Don't get me. Deserve to be You can think I'm retarded, but you have no self control clearly.
You deserve to be You deserve to be blacking you. Know what? You still can't yeah. There you go. There you go.
So that's that's what it is. Because I want the space to end on a positive note. I want people to leave here feeling higher vibrations than than whatever. I understand it's heavy news, but we're not gonna clown people and talk shit to them. That's Yeah.
I said I know I'm in disagreement with a lot of people. He's just he's mean sometimes. So go go ahead. Well, no self control. It's fine.
They can learn that. They can come to the spiritual spaces and learn self control Learn how to disagree with you. Don't be talking shit while he's not on stage now because then I gotta bring him back up. So just move it. You got a hard stop coming.
And like I said, I got respect for the intellectuals that are up here. I don't think anybody here is dumb. Right? I think truth is very intelligent. I think Simon is very intelligent.
I'm just bringing the other side of this that some of us, we still have faith, and I have faith that this is all gonna end well for America. And I just think there's a lot that none of us on this space or even anyone who's outside the inner circle of Donald Trump understand because we don't have all the facts. So, anyway, I'm a man of faith. I still got faith in the leader of my country, and I hope and I know and I hope that he's gonna come through for us. That includes Dan Bongino, by the way.
And then you go? I got no. No. No. I don't.
I I totally I just think that we have a plan to get Israel out of the inner workings of our government, but we can't show our hand yet. I do think we're we're we're playing that kind of game. So, yeah, I'm kind of in the five d test crowd, but, I'm just gonna throw it out there. I still got faith. Well, you know, there is there is truth around the fact that, our there's a lot of integrated overlap between our infrastructure cybersecurity, critical infrastructure.
So I don't know. I I yeah. I don't know I don't know what the plan would be for that, and I'm pretty sure it can't be disclosed. So I will lend you a little credibility there, and we'll see. Adele, did you have something, quickly foreclosed?
I just wanna say, I don't think it matters if we agree or disagree on the finer points. I think what is important is that we buy local, support our local economies, make sure we're voting in local elections, and we're shoring up our communities. I think that that is the answer regardless of how we get there. But yeah. So I'm super grateful for this space, and I I appreciate everyone that's spoken.
Mace, thank you so much for putting this together. Simon, thank you so much for putting out thought provoking ideas whether people agree or disagree. You know what? Thank you so much, Adele. And this is a perfect setup for rent.
Okay. I put up a link in the nest for a space I'm doing tomorrow, maybe three three Americans in China to debunk some of the stereotypes on tech, trade, tariffs, life in China, from the American perspective in case anyone's interested. The names of the individuals are there as well. Thank you. If anyone's free, join.
Thanks, Truth. Okay. So, Rance, over to you, the local level stuff. Go ahead and, tell everybody about your expertise. I love Rance.
Everybody should definitely give him a follow. He's the most underrated person. He's very active on this app. Okay? Love him to death.
Go ahead, Rance. Yeah. You know, to to fight back is not just enough for us to, you know, vote. We gotta get active in our policies too. Our local policies, state policies, city policies, this is where the fight is actually happening.
They're banking little kingdoms all across the country right now. And if you don't fight back and take part of that kingdom, you're gonna be the slave that works for that kingdom. And so get involved in your local level, and I would love to, you know, sit down and talk with Simon more about, how the carbon capturing and carbon control net zero energy policies across 27 different states are leading us into the social credit score system that will be the foundation for controlling us. And so I didn't, you know, wanna jump in and talk too much of this space because I was just listening and learning and and understanding what different perspectives were coming. But I think they all, coincide with, energy policies that are taking place locally right now.
And I did make a post. If anyone wants to check it out, Trump is actually doing you know, like Simon said, if Trump does some certain things, then I can say I'm wrong. And at first, you know, I'm like, I was really upset because Trump wasn't pushing really hard on some different ESG policies, but he just passed the resilient grid, stop to bring coal plants back up and and, you know, reliable energy, and that's what these states needed. The next thing we need to do is call on our Congress to have them repeal the Inflation Reduction Act. Okay.
This is where the scam is coming from. This is what's funding this whole process. And if we can get Congress to repeal it, we don't have to worry about all the court cases that we're currently losing with what you see Doge losing in court when all their saving stuff, but then they're getting told in court they can't spend this money. And, you know, they all tied ties together and wrap wraps around in a circle. But, I appreciate it, Simon.
Thank you for, you know, sharing and coming in and Maze and everybody and letting me cohost, and I appreciate you guys. Thanks. My pleasure. Thank you, Rance. Simon, do you have any, final thoughts?
Yeah. I'll just reiterate a few things that I've already said. It it really doesn't matter whether, Trump is, the savior or not. The most important thing is follow the money and figure out what's happening. And look where Trump is repositioning his portfolio, whether he's doing it for good, bad, doesn't matter.
What really matters is that, if you follow the general trend, and I really suggest if you came halfway through, go back to the beginning of this space. And after a a big rant and a story, I just went through what solutions are. And, in those solutions, even if you disagree with absolutely everything, just follow those solutions, and I think you're gonna be okay. There is a massively changing world right now. And if you get on the wrong side of it, I am fearful for you.
You will end up on a universal basic income and controlled by a social credit score. If you, change your habits and recognize where the world's going, economic power is what allows you to implement the changes that are more spiritual in the world. But, unfortunately, the only way you're gonna be able to implement them is if you put yourself in a position of economic power because the other system's gonna make you weak. The other system's gonna make you a debt slave. And when we're in a debt slavery mindset and weak, we don't do our best work.
We don't have our best relationship with God. We compromise our values. We do things that are not in line with us, and that creates psychological disorders, mental disorders. We don't have children. We don't recreate.
We don't have families. We become the worst version of ourselves. And so economic power is important so that you can influence spiritual power. And so I encourage everybody, if you can, and I'll reiterate them, the world is changing around artificial intelligence and robotics. Some regions are gonna shrink.
Others are gonna expand. And rather than you becoming a speculator and try and think, should I have my money in America? Should I have my money in The Middle East? Should I have my money in China? Do what the central banks are doing right now.
The central banks are accumulating gold. Everyone in the Trump administration is accumulating Bitcoin, and those are global neutral assets. Don't expect to make currency trading and and go down you know, try and get too smart in the market. Try wherever you can to avoid debt. That is a boycott of the machine.
The machine relies upon you being in debt. Save in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a peaceful whether the price goes up or down, it is a peaceful resistance of the system. Every fiat currency converted into Bitcoin and existing outside of the system drains the system and is a boycott against the war machine. And finally, work local and work in the regions.
You know, spend your money local. Don't allow BlackRock to decide what you're investing in. Because if you allow BlackRock to decide, you're investing in genocide and the destruction of humanity. Invest where you think is right. Invest local.
Support your community wherever you can, and you decide how you how you flow your money in line with your ethics, not somebody else's, ethics. And recognize that while this is absolute carnage and chaos, study the AI and robotics ecosystem from start to finish. It starts with energy, and it ends with technology. And study it right from beginning to end and recognize wherever you are in the world, if you're aligning with that, you're in a boom market wherever you are. Whether you're in America, whether you're in China, whether you're in The Middle East, wherever you are, there is, you know, a that that is where the whole economy is repositioning it to.
You could be a manual labor working in energy. You could be a developer or a coder, or you could be somebody that is in the complete wrong area and just says, you know what? For three months, I'm gonna tune out of all politics. I'm not gonna attend one space. I'm not even gonna listen to Simon, Truth, or Maze, or any of these crazy people.
I'm gonna get my head down, and I'm gonna learn everything I can about artificial intelligence, and I'm gonna support my local businesses in transitioning to this new world. Reskill yourself, and remember, you've got approximately five to ten years to build economic power. Think long term, and you'll be fine at the very end of it. I don't know what the world's gonna look like in ten years, but I do know that there is a mountain of opportunity to support people in in switching themselves to this new world. And if you've got skills, you can help people with mental strength, you can help people with spiritual strength, you can help people with any of these things.
You know, the world needs productive people, and we need to build decentralization to fight back against the machine. And I do personally believe I do believe in our creator. I do believe we win, and I do believe that there is a demonic force that we will win against. And whether you call that karma, whether you call that god in whatever particular iteration or religion you believe, whether you call that faith in humanity, just tap into that. Take the time out if you're not feeling mentally strong.
Rescale yourself. Look after yourself because the community needs strong people like you and leaders that are gonna make a difference. Absolutely. That's the kind of energy and vibe that I'm on. I am, definitely looking forward to doing more spaces with Simon.
You are a gem. Thank you so much for sharing your your, information with us. I mean, it was so last minute, and for you to agree to come in here and do this was, just very, very I'm very grateful. Words are inadequate to express my gratitude for you. And we'll do another space on decentralization, so just be on the lookout for that, guys.
Just kinda more, action, type of items for people as they navigate these times. And, yeah, and thanks to all the speakers and everybody that listened and everybody that shared this. And, until the next time, I hope you guys have an amazing day. Thank you. Say that I fear for you guys?
This is what I guys. Why why Jason?