DailyBriefs.info  PODCAST REVIEW  OF  Catherine Austin Fitts and Danny Jones
$21 Trillion Black Budget is Funding a Rogue Breakaway Civilization | Catherine Fitts

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1. Interest in Money and Its Control:
   The speaker became interested in money as a child, wondering why destruction seemed to make people money. This curiosity led to a decision to understand how money worked in a U.S. neighborhood, which is organized in a very centralized way.

2. Goal to Understand Global Finance:
   The speaker went to Wall Street to learn how all the money on the planet functions. They moved between departments, gaining knowledge about different markets.

3. Discovery of Centralized Control:
   While learning finance on Wall Street, the speaker realized that everything was being rigged from Washington. The Treasury and the Federal Reserve were identified as the control points, prompting a move to Washington.

4. Role at Dillon Read:
   The speaker was a partner at Dillon Read before transitioning to Washington. An online book titled "Dillon Read and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits" is mentioned as a case study illustrating organized crime’s intersection with Wall Street and Washington.

5. Assistant Secretary of Housing Appointment:
   The speaker was appointed in the first Bush administration as Assistant Secretary of Housing, also serving as the Federal Housing Commissioner.

6. Oversight of Mortgage Markets:
   In this role, the speaker oversaw mortgage markets, including credit aspects and the rules and regulations governing these markets.

7. Discovery of Mortgage Corruption:
   Upon taking the housing role, the speaker encountered mortgage corruption. It was discovered that a significant portion of the black budget was financed through mortgage fraud.

8. Departure from Government and Use of Internet:
   The speaker left the administration after confronting mortgage corruption. During this period, they also discovered the Internet.

9. Creation of Hamilton Securities Group:
   Following government service, the speaker founded Hamilton Securities Group, an investment bank designed to use software tools to understand money flow and make this information accessible to neighborhoods.

10. Work with Clinton Administration:
    Hamilton Securities was successful and was hired by the Clinton administration as the FHA’s financial advisor, leading $10 billion in mortgage auctions aimed at stopping mortgage fraud.

11. Opposition to Stopping Fraud:
    Attempts to halt mortgage fraud faced opposition from individuals who aimed to steer fraud toward causing a financial crisis.

12. Litigation with the Federal Government:
    The speaker engaged in eleven years of litigation with the Department of Justice, stemming from their efforts to combat mortgage fraud.

13. Experience Compared to "Enemy of the State":
    The speaker compares their experience to the movie "Enemy of the State" starring Will Smith, stating they "played Will Smith in real life."

14. Details of the Litigation:
    This included 18 audits and investigations, 12 tracks of litigation, physical harassment, and a smear campaign.

15. Office Location in Washington:
    The speaker notes that Will Smith's office in the movie was located next to their company’s office in Washington, highlighting a striking parallel.

16. Movie as Training:
    They viewed "Enemy of the State" as a "training movie," as it depicts covert operations similar to their real-life experiences.

17. Solari Report Series on Deep State Tactics:
    The Solari Report offers a 12-part series titled "Deep State Tactics," providing insights into covert operations for those who can't access a Gene Hackman figure.

18. Crash Course in Covert Operations:
    The litigation and experiences provided a "real crash course" in covert operations, making "Enemy of the State" feel like their own training.

19. Analogy for Financial Fraud:
    Financial and mortgage fraud are described as having "thousands of recipes," similar to "The Joy of Cooking."

20. HUD Fraud Depicted in "The Sopranos":
    HUD housing mortgage fraud can be seen in the TV show "The Sopranos," which reportedly did a four-part series on HUD fraud involving Tony Soprano.

21. Personal Motivation for Investigating Fraud:
    The speaker's interest was sparked by childhood experiences where fraud destroyed home values in their neighborhood, exemplified by boarded-up foreclosed properties attributed to the Assistant Secretary of Housing.

22. Irony of the Title:
    Upon being sworn in as Assistant Secretary, the speaker realized they had become the person whose signature was on foreclosure signs that troubled them as a child—an "uh-oh" moment.

23. Scale of Foreclosed Properties:
    As FHA Commissioner, the deputy reported 50,000 boarded-up homes. The speaker declared this number would change, which led to subsequent issues.

24. Basic HUD Foreclosure Process:
    HUD finances mortgages, insures them, and, upon default, pays off the mortgage holder, then takes back the property into inventory.

25. HUD Auction Scenario:
    Properties for sale at HUD auctions are properties HUD has repossessed after mortgage defaults.

26. Mortgage Fraud Recipe Example:
    A scheme involves selling a property, then inflating the mortgage value post-renovation (e.g., $100,000 property sold quickly, then mortgaged for $250,000), which is then defaulted on.

27. Default by Non-Profit:
    The inflated mortgage property is sold to a non-profit that defaults immediately, allowing HUD to pay the inflated mortgage amount.

28. Repetition of Fraud:
    This process repeats, generating large sums of money "out the back door."

29. Real-World Fraud Example:
    Private rental properties in Chicago, financed and defaulted five times in one year, exemplify this scheme.

30. Variation of Mortgage Fraud:
    A friend described buying houses, getting appraisals marked up five times, and obtaining loans based on inflated appraisals—another fraud example.

31. Most Profitable Mortgage Fraud:
    The most lucrative method involves issuing ten mortgages on a single house, wrapped into Ginnie Mae mortgage pools, then sold globally without detection.

32. Selling Ginnie Mae Pools:
    Ginnie Mae pools can be sold worldwide, like in Dubai, enabling money skimming from the FHA fund.

33. Warning About Fraud:
    The speaker warned about this fraud during their tenure as Assistant Secretary and later as HUD’s financial advisor.

34. Fiction Reflecting Fact:
    Their college roommate only believed the extent of HUD fraud after seeing it depicted on "The Sopranos," illustrating the idea that "fact is fiction and fiction is fact."

35. Media vs. Fiction as Truth Source:
    The speaker suggests that news is likely fiction, whereas shows like "The Sopranos" may reflect truth.

36. Financial Crisis Bailout Scale:
    During the 2008 crisis, the TARP Inspector General estimated taxpayer bailout funds at $27 trillion—three times the total mortgage debt.

37. Bailout Exceeds Total Mortgages:
    $8 trillion would have paid off all single-family mortgages; the actual bailout was much larger.

38. HUD as "Candy Store of Covert Revenues":
    A quote from a former intelligence officer describes HUD as a "candy store" for covert revenues.

39. Missing Money from HUD:
    Financial statements show $1 trillion missing from 1998 to 2015—a persistent issue.

40. Top Level of Control:
    The speaker agrees that bankers sit at the top of a complex system involving intelligence agencies, drug cartels, and funding wars.

41. Central Banking Warfare Model:
    The Western world has operated for 500 years on a "central banking warfare model"—central bankers print money, supported by military force.

42. Military Backing of Currency:
    The military ensures acceptance of currency, maintaining liquidity.

43. Two Sides of the Coin:
    Bankers control monetary policy; military and intelligence support enforce compliance.

44. Fiscal vs. Monetary Policy:
    Monetary policy involves creating currency; fiscal policy involves collecting and spending taxes.

45. American Revolution Basis:
    The revolution was based on "no taxation without representation," with Congress controlling fiscal policy.

46. Financial Coup d'État:
    In the last two decades, the speaker calls it a "financial coup d'état," where bankers aim to control both monetary and fiscal policies.

47. Progress of the Coup:
    Estimated at 70% complete, with 30% remaining—if successful, people lose control over taxation.

48. Direct Money Seizure:
    A successful coup could allow bankers to withdraw money directly from people's accounts.

49. Federal Government Funding:
    Half of federal funding comes from taxes; the other half from the central bank.

50. Currency Issued with Debt:
    The system issues currency through debt, although alternatives exist.

51. Treasury Account at New York Fed:
    The U.S. Treasury's account is at the New York Fed, owned by member banks like Citibank and JPMorgan Chase.

52. Primary Dealers:
    They borrow money using Treasury bonds, facilitating currency creation and government funding.

53. Funding from Retirement/Pension Funds:
    Much of this borrowed money comes from pensions, IRAs, and foreign sovereign wealth funds.

54. President's Lack of Financial Sovereignty:
    The president depends on these funds—"allowance from dad"—and lacks financial independence.

55. President's Lack of Information Sovereignty:
    They cannot have private communications due to intelligence agency surveillance.

56. Challenge of Running Government Without Sovereignty:
    The speaker questions how government functions without both financial and information sovereignty.

57. Red Button Story:
    The American people prefer to keep benefits flowing, even if it means supporting organized crime—"the red button" metaphor.

58. US as Global Leader in Money Laundering:
    The U.S. is a leading global money launderer and organized crime hub.

59. Financial Dependency on Harmful Activities:
    America's economy depends on industries that poison and harm the population, including food, healthcare, spraying, and pharmaceuticals.

60. The Great Poisoning:
    Many industries profit from poisoning people, making it resistant to change.

61. Cost of the Central Banking Warfare Model:
    Maintaining the dollar as the reserve currency requires extracting resources to fund military and intelligence operations.

62. President’s Plea to NATO:
    NATO members are being asked to share more costs due to the inadequacy of the dollar subsidy.

63. Subsidy from Reserve Currency:
    The dollar system acts as a "tithe"—a subsidy—extracted through currency printing and global trade.

64. Buying Off the American People:
    Large expenditures are used to keep the American population compliant, through benefits and subsidies.

65. Failure of the Unipolar Model:
    The U.S. failed to maintain unipolar dominance, as seen in Ukraine; multipolarity is emerging.

66. Need to Change the Model:
    International competition and technology necessitate a shift from the old model.

67. Direction of Change:
    Shift from "East-West" to "North-South," possibly involving Canada or Greenland.

68. Resistance to Change:
    Many Americans resist these changes, but they are inevitable.

69. Third Rail of the System:
    The "power source" is likened to a transit "third rail"; those in control want to prevent the population from interfering.

70. Distraction Through Division:
    Divide and conquer tactics, including political polarization, divert attention from the real power.

71. Federal Budget Breakdown (Example Year):
    In a sample year, military spending was $857 billion; healthcare (HHS) was $1.8 trillion.

72. HHS Budget and Poisoning:
    High healthcare costs stem from poisoning and chronic illness—more expensive than other countries.

73. Cost of Disability:
    Reducing disabilities to 2010 levels could save over half a trillion dollars—the cost of poisoning.

74. Battle Around HHS Budget:
    The budget debate is contentious because revealing truths about poisoning could trigger legal liabilities.

75. Healthcare Fraud as Cause of Bankruptcy:
    Healthcare fraud is the primary cause of family financial ruin; financial fraud is second.

76. Fraud in "Legitimate" Organizations:
    Much fraud occurs within seemingly legitimate healthcare organizations—often unknowingly.

77. Speaker’s Family Background:
    Their father was a WWII trauma surgeon trained in China/Burma, helping redesign emergency procedures nationally.

78. Family Contribution and Competition:
    The family culture emphasized contributions to civilization, like their grandfather’s work on penicillin laws.

79. George Kennan’s Post-War View:
    Kennan believed the U.S., with 6% of the world’s population and 50% of resources, had to be "really tough" to maintain dominance.

80. Subsidizing Americans Through Racketeering:
    The U.S. subsidizes its citizens via global racketeering and warfare, avoiding sacrifices.

81. Loss of Extraction Ability in Multipolar World:
    Moving to a multipolar system diminishes U.S. resource extraction capability, especially if BRICS reject the dollar.

82. Need to Cut Back:
    Loss of subsidy means domestic cutbacks, possibly via climate policies or tariffs causing inflation.

83. Complete Control for Cutbacks:
    Total control over the economy enables "cutbacks" to be enforced smoothly.

84. Bankers and Control of Fiscal Policy:
    Bankers aim to control fiscal and monetary policy, potentially collapsing the system with digital tech.

85. Control Grid and Digital Technology:
    An all-digital financial system allows centralized control, with private and public "train tracks."

86. BIS General Manager on Control:
    A 2020 video shows BIS General Manager Agustin Carstens explaining digital currency control capabilities.

87. Central Banker Telling the Truth:
    Carstens openly states rules can be enforced on digital money, allowing granular control over individuals.

88. Rules and Enforcement with Digital Currency:
    Digital tech enables setting and enforcing rules, restricting purchases or travel based on health or compliance.

89. Prototyping as a Reason for Payment:
    The U.S. pays other countries to test mandates like vaccination, acting as prototypes for domestic implementation.

90. Productization of Controls:
    International mandates are essentially "products" being developed and sold.

91. Assassination Attempts/Ousters for Refusal:
    Leaders who resist mandates, especially in Africa, face assassination or removal.

92. Injections as Operating Systems:
    COVID-19 injections are viewed as "installing operating systems" in bodies, with a quote from a Moderna scientist supporting this.

93. Internet of Bodies:
    The concept involves embedding materials in bodies for easier digital interaction, linked to 5G and nanobots.

94. Livestock Management Analogy:
    The Internet of Bodies resembles livestock tagging—creating an "organic barcode."

95. Mysterious Ingredients:
    Suspicion exists about hidden ingredients in food, sprays, and injections—purpose unknown.

96. Charles Lieber and Brain-Machine Interface:
    Lieber, a Harvard nanobiologist, allegedly worked with Chinese entities; the speaker believes he was "busted to keep quiet."

97. Operation Warp Speed Leader’s Expertise:
    The leader was a former GSK researcher specializing in brain-machine interfaces; Operation Warp Speed is a military project.

98. Spray and Injection Contents:
    Research suggests that engineered materials in sprays and injections are the same; the speaker has collaborated with Clifford Carnicom.

99. Control as a Risk Management Tool:
    The elite are described as risk managers, turning to total control due to fears of future threats.

100. Investment in Persuasion:
     Enormous funds are spent influencing opinions, media, education, and surveillance to manipulate public perception.

101. Expenditure on Education and Media:
     Billions are spent on shaping beliefs via media and educational institutions, including covert "mind control plumbing."

102. Expenditure on Intelligence:
     Funds are used to track and influence individuals through AI and software, enabling targeted nudges.

103. Manufactured Consent for Pandemic:
     The speaker claims the pandemic was a manufactured event to control perceptions—"no pandemic" reality.

104. Math of Time and Money:
     Tracking time and money reveals underlying reality; these are concrete, truthful measures.

105. Entrainment on TV:
     In 1984, plans for TV programming included "entrainment," leading the speaker to avoid owning a TV for years.

106. "The Truman Show" in Washington:
     Financial tracking showed a disconnect between reality and the "fantasy" presented on Sunday news—like being in "The Truman Show."

107. FHA Commissioner's Legal Responsibility:
     The FHA Commissioner was legally responsible for a $320 billion mortgage insurance fund, required to be self-sufficient.

108. Lack of Profit/Loss Information:
     Initial budgets lacked profit/loss data; the speaker used political influence to access accounts.

109. Accessing Account Data:
     They moved accounts reporting to a different assistant secretary to report directly to themselves.

110. Daily Losses in Single Family Fund:
     It was discovered that the fund was losing $11 million daily.

111. Lack of Place-Based Financials:
     The system lacked geographic financial details, despite ZIP code data in checks.

112. Profit and Loss by Region:
     Analysis showed profit in eight regions but losses in two—Texas/Arkansas and Colorado—linked to black budget fraud.

113. S&L Crisis and Mortgage Fraud:
     The 1989 S&L crisis involved significant mortgage fraud, linked to systemic corruption.

114. Rumsfeld’s Announcement:
     The day before 9/11, Rumsfeld announced $2.3 trillion missing from the DOD; the speaker claims the real figure was $4 trillion.

115. Missing Money Story Planned for Release:
     A report on missing funds was scheduled for release after 9/11.

116. Financial Coup Started in 1990:
     The speaker states the coup began in 1990.

117. Offshore Havens and Missing Money:
     As money went missing, offshore accounts expanded, possibly linked to a "breakaway civilization."

118. Funding a New System:
     The missing funds likely financed secret projects and a "breakaway civilization."

119. Pandemic as Breakaway Takeover:
     The speaker theorizes the pandemic allowed the breakaway civilization to reassert control.

120. Money Stolen for Global Government Endowment:
     Allegedly, stolen funds could support a global government.

121. Amount of Missing Money (2015):
     By 2015, $21 trillion in "undocumented adjustments" indicated large financial discrepancies.

122. Investments in Black Budget Technology:
     The missing money funded black projects, military tech, secret space programs, and underground bases.

123. Physical Infrastructure and 9/11:
     Large infrastructure projects may have been funded, with 9/11 facilitating black budget spending.

124. Components of Black Budget Spending:
     Includes a new governance system, secret weapons, space programs, and underground facilities.

125. Military Contractors and Futuristic Weaponry:
     Contractors have allegedly received funds since the 1950s/70s to develop advanced weaponry and propulsion systems.

126. National Security Act of 1947 & CIA Act of 1949:
     These laws created secret infrastructure, with figures like Forrestal opposing such developments.

127. Forrestal’s Assassination:
     Linked to opposition to nuclear proliferation and black budget disclosures.

128. CIA as Powerful Banker:
     The CIA was made the "most powerful banker," especially through Area 51 and covert financial mechanisms.

129. Exchange Stabilization Fund:
     Created to fund covert operations post-WWII, with mechanisms to replenish secret budgets.

130. Bush (Senior) & Classified Corporate Work:
     During Reagan, Bush made deals allowing corporations to do classified work, transferring black technology to private firms.

131. Stock Market Profits & Campaign Contributions:
     Gifting black technology increased stock values, fueling campaign contributions—"Make a law, make a business."

132. Corporate Veil & FOIA:
     Black projects are kept secret behind corporate veils, inaccessible through Freedom of Information Act requests.

133. Breakaway Civilization:
     Described as a group that has separated from societal norms, with advanced technology and secret assets.

134. Assets & Jurisdiction:
     Assets obtained by the breakaway civilization arguably belong to the public if jurisdiction were asserted.

135. Higher Moral Authority & Breakaway Law:
     Some operate under a "higher moral authority," feeling they follow a "breakaway law" rather than national laws.

136. Connectedness of Banks & Contractors:
     The private military-industrial complex and banks are intertwined in this secret network.

137. Underground Infrastructure:
     Belief in extensive underground bases, some publicly known, but likely much larger.

138. Examples of Underground Bases:
     Salt mines and military bases are cited as potential underground cities.

139. Out-of-Control Corporate Infrastructure:
     Some infrastructure operates beyond control, with conflicts involving defense contractors.

140. Control Through Killing:
     The system allegedly maintains control via threats and lethal measures.

141. Threats for Book Publication:
     Publishing "Dillon Read" faced threats, including to kill family members.

142. Bank of International Settlements (BIS):
     Described as a "central bank of central banks," with member central banks meeting regularly.

143. BIS Financial Stability Board:
     Defines systemically important institutions, which may enjoy sovereign immunity.

144. BIS Power to Move Money:
     Can secretly move and hold large sums, possibly covering missing government funds.

145. Network of Sovereign Immunity Organizations:
     Post-WWII, entities like the UN, IMF, and World Bank operate above national laws.

146. Meta Structure for the System:
     A global framework managed via committees and consensus, not individual leaders.

147. Decisions at Elite Meetings:
     Decisions on budgets and policies are made at gatherings like Bohemian Grove, then implemented in D.C.

148. Coordination Platforms:
     Bilderberg, CFR, and similar groups facilitate elite collaboration and decision-making.

149. Origins of Bilderberg Group:
     Potentially created to manage wartime assets and post-war "booty."

150. Tech & the Control Grid:
     Tech leaders participate in these meetings to develop the control infrastructure.

151. Stealing Data & Assets:
     Focus on theft of data and remaining assets—payment data from Social Security, IRS, and Treasury are highly valuable.

152. AI and Data Aggregation:
     Platforms like Palantir and xAI are used to compile and privatize government data.

153. Unlawful Data Collection:
     Speculation that data was collected covertly, without proper authorization.

154. U.S. Debt & Resources:
     Howard Lutnick states the $36 trillion debt is less concerning given $500 trillion in land and mineral resources owned by the government.

155. Plundering U.S. Resources:
     Resources could be exploited to create new fortunes; mapping these is a current goal.

156. Core Debate:
     Centered on a "secret governance system" seeking to centralize control versus the population’s desire for freedom.

157. Breakaways Dictate Life:
     The "breakaway civilization" plans to control how people live after stealing resources.

158. Intergenerational Capital & Risk Management:
     Top elites manage vast capital pools and risks, often with a focus on intergenerational wealth.

159. Frustration & Fear of the Elite:
     They find managing the populace "very frustrating and scary," fearing resistance.

160. Cycle of Disrespect:
     An escalating cycle of hostility between elites and the general population.

161. Government Poisoning & COVID:
     Accusation that the U.S. government systematically poisoned, disabled, or killed millions during COVID.

162. Failure to Fund Retirement:
     Since 1995, funding shortfalls led to reduced life expectancy as a "solution."

163. Life Expectancy Decline:
     This decline diverged from other countries, worsening during the pandemic.

164. Social Security & Lowered Expectations:
     Recent reports suggest lowering life expectancy helps improve fiscal outlook.

165. Retirement Formula & "Slow Kill":
     Without full funding, increasing retirement age or lowering life expectancy are the main options—"slow kill" via poisoning is also claimed.

166. Inaction & Incompetence:
     Senators refuse responsibility for health crises, maintaining systemic control.

167. Healthcare Fraud & Bankruptcy:
     Healthcare fraud is a primary driver of family bankruptcy; financial fraud is second.

168. Family Background & Service:
     The speaker’s father was a WWII trauma surgeon, contributing to emergency medicine reforms.

169. Cultural Contributions:
     Family members contributed to saving lives and changing laws, emphasizing civilization’s progress.

170. George Kennan’s Post-War Strategy:
     Kennan advocated for toughness and nuclear deterrence to maintain U.S. dominance.

171. US Subsidizing via Warfare:
     The U.S. subsidizes its population through global racketeering and warfare, avoiding sacrifices.

172. Loss of Resource Extraction in Multipolar World:
     As the system shifts, the U.S. loses its ability to extract resources if other nations reject the dollar.

173. Need to Cut Back:
     Domestic austerity may be necessary, through tariffs or other measures.

174. Control & Digital Tech:
     Complete control via digital systems could enable collapse of constitutional governance if desired.

175. Control Grid & AI:
     AI and digital currencies allow for granular control—setting rules, restricting purchase and movement.

176. International Payment Testing:
     The U.S. pays other nations to test mandates like vaccination, serving as prototypes.

177. Product Development & Control:
     Mandates and control measures are "developed" and exported globally.

178. Leadership & Coercion:
     African leaders resisting mandates face threats; injections are viewed as "installing operating systems."

179. Internet of Bodies:
     Embedding tech into bodies for digital interaction; linked to 5G and nanotechnology.

180. Mysterious Ingredients & Hidden Tech:
     Suspicion about unknown ingredients in food, sprays, and injections—possibly linked to advanced nanotech.

181. Charles Lieber & Brain-Interface:
     Lieber’s work with China is believed to be suppressed; his research on brain-machine interfaces is key.

182. Operation Warp Speed & Military Tech:
     Led by a former GSK researcher, focusing on advanced military and biotech.

183. Sprays & Injections:
     Research suggests engineered materials in sprays and vaccines are the same; collaboration with Clifford Carnicom.

184. Control as Risk Management:
     The elite use control to prevent future risks, often resorting to total control.

185. Investment in Persuasion & Propaganda:
     Billions spent influencing public opinion, media, education, and surveillance.

186. Manufactured Reality & Entrainment:
     The "matrix" of perception is manipulated, including via TV and media programming.

187. Financial & Geopolitical Disconnection:
     Tracking budgets reveals a disconnect between reality and the narrative, similar to "The Truman Show."

188. Fiduciary Responsibilities & Budget Data:
     The FHA’s fiduciary responsibility involved millions daily in losses, hidden from public view.

189. Geographic Financial Data:
     Lack of regional financial details obscures where profits and losses occur, with fraud in specific regions.

190. Mortgage & Financial Fraud History:
     The S&L crisis, 9/11, and missing trillions are interconnected with systemic corruption.

191. Black Budget & Secret Programs:
     Funds have gone into secret space programs, underground bases, and advanced warfare tech.

192. Nazi & Post-WWII Secret Infrastructure:
     Nazis in Antarctica, Nazi scientists in the U.S., and secret operations are linked to the origins of the breakaway civilization.

193. No Cohesive Global Ideology:
     Lack of a unified ideology among major powers increases instability and potential failure.

194. Russia’s Cultural Cohesion:
     Russia’s strong religious and cultural identity gives it a better chance to resist globalist agendas.

195. Recruitment & Control:
     Attempts to recruit or neutralize individuals (like the speaker) relate to geopolitical control efforts.

196. Bloodlines & Genetic Engineering:
     Belief in elite bloodlines and possible genetic modification of children.

197. Movies & Reality:
     Films like "The Three-Body Problem" and "Rings of Saturn" depict real or potential advanced phenomena.

198. Breakthrough Energy & Secrets:
     Low-cost clean energy remains hidden to prevent population growth and control.

199. Environmental & Energy Costs:
     The control system’s energy demands are enormous, contributing to environmental degradation.

200. Data Storage & Surveillance:
     Gigantic facilities are built for storing data—possibly in Nevada and New Mexico.

201. Black Budget & Post-9/11 Expansion:
     The Patriot Act expanded black budget spending on covert projects, creating "Top Secret America."

202. Kissinger & Classified Knowledge:
     Kissinger’s evolving views reflect the importance of secrecy at the highest levels.

203. Paranormal & Occult:
     The speaker has explored paranormal phenomena but remains uncertain.

204. "Mister Global":
     The top decision-making group is called "Mister Global," possibly influenced by interdimensional or demonic forces.

205. Demonic Intelligence & Source of Control:
     Only a demonic or "demonic intelligence" could conceive of total digital control.

206. Silicon Valley & Christianity:
     Recent conversions of tech leaders to Christianity contrast with past anti-religious stances, possibly signaling a shift.

207. Morality & Productivity:
     A moral, productive society depends on shared values; current systems suppress this.

208. Failure of Unipolarity & Need for Change:
     The unipolar global model failed; a new multipolar or "North-South" model is emerging.

209. Choosing Freedom & Resistance:
     People must actively oppose the control grid by shifting their support and resources.

210. Role of State Legislatures:
     State legislatures can help defend the constitution and resist central control.

211. Personal Action & Support:
     Individuals can "stop financing" the control grid by changing where they work and bank.

212. Potential for Change:
     Even a small percentage of the population refusing to support the system could cause rapid change.

213. Reviving Main Street:
     With existing resources, local economies can be restored.

214. Federal Waste & Enforced Laws:
     Wasteful spending and outdated laws hinder reform but could be changed with political will.

215. Access to Resources & Information:
     The Solari Report offers resources on how to support ethical banking and take action.

Global Financial System & Power Structures: An In-Depth Analysis

Prepared for: Stakeholders interested in systemic control, financial sovereignty, and future geopolitical trends
Date: October 2023

Executive Summary

This report synthesizes insights into the complex, layered, and often clandestine structures underpinning the global financial system. It examines central control mechanisms, covert operations, the influence of elite networks, and emerging technological threats and opportunities. The analysis highlights systemic vulnerabilities, the potential for transformative change, and strategic opportunities for stakeholders seeking to promote transparency, sovereignty, and ethical governance.

Key Findings

1. Centralized Control of Global Finance 

   • The U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve serve as primary control nodes, rigging financial markets from Washington.

   • Major financial institutions, including the BIS and large central banks, operate within a clandestine network exercising sovereign-like immunity and control over global assets.

2. Corruption and Fraud at the Core 

   • Mortgage and financial fraud are endemic, with schemes involving inflated valuations, default defaults, and offshore laundering.

   • The black budget, black technology, and covert infrastructure divert trillions, funding secret projects such as advanced weaponry and space programs.

3. Systemic Black Budget and Hidden Technologies 

   • An estimated $21 trillion in undocumented adjustments indicates extensive black budget activities.

   • Hidden technologies include breakthrough energy, advanced propulsion, and secret space programs, kept from public knowledge to sustain control.

4. Global Power Networks & Elite Governance 

   • A clandestine group, referred to as "Mister Global," potentially operates across interdimensional and occult frameworks, influencing major decisions.

   • Elite organizations (Bilderberg, CFR, Bohemian Grove) coordinate decisions that impact the global economy and geopolitical stability.

5. Advanced Digital Control & Surveillance 

   • Digital currencies (CBDCs, stablecoins) and AI enable granular control over individual behaviors, including restrictions based on health, location, or social credit.

   • International payment systems and data aggregation platforms are being leveraged for social engineering and control.

6. Geopolitical and Economic Shifts 

   • The unipolar U.S. dominance is waning; a multipolar world with emerging powers like BRICS necessitates a transition to new models.

   • The current system relies heavily on resource extraction, environmental degradation, and environmental poisoning, sustaining a "great poisoning."

7. Societal & Cultural Dynamics 

   • The population is conditioned to accept control through divide-and-conquer strategies, with mass media and education systems serving as tools of manipulation.

   • Resistance is emerging through grassroots movements, ethical banking, and localized economic initiatives.

Strategic Analysis

1. Systemic Vulnerabilities & Risks

• The extensive black budget and clandestine activities pose significant risks of systemic collapse if exposed or disrupted.

• The reliance on digital control systems introduces vulnerabilities to cyberattacks, technological failures, and societal unrest.

• Environmental degradation driven by resource extraction and energy consumption threatens long-term sustainability.

2. Opportunities for Reform & Resilience

• Increasing awareness and grassroots action can shift financial support away from unethical institutions.

• Technological advancements in encryption, blockchain, and decentralized finance (DeFi) offer pathways to restore sovereignty.

• Legislative actions at the state level can serve as a buffer against federal overreach, enabling localized resistance.

3. Geopolitical Dynamics

• The decline of U.S. hegemony opens avenues for multipolar cooperation, especially among Russia, China, and emerging economies.

• Strategic engagement with alternative energy, infrastructure, and digital sovereignty initiatives can foster resilience.

Recommendations

A. Enhance Transparency & Accountability

• Promote legal reforms requiring detailed regional financial reporting for federal agencies, especially HUD and Treasury.

• Support independent audits of black budget activities and advocate for declassification of covert projects.

B. Strengthen Financial Sovereignty & Ethical Banking

• Encourage shift of funds from large, historically corrupt banks (e.g., JPMorgan Chase) to local, ethical financial institutions.

• Develop and promote community-based currencies and decentralized payment systems resistant to centralized control.

C. Leverage Technology for Decentralization

• Invest in blockchain and AI platforms that facilitate secure, private, and sovereign financial transactions.

• Support development of privacy-preserving digital currencies and social credit alternatives aligned with ethical principles.

D. Foster Grassroots & Legislative Action

• Mobilize state legislatures to uphold constitutional protections against federal overreach.

• Educate the public on systemic risks and promote ethical, transparent governance practices.

E. Prepare for Geopolitical Transition

• Develop strategies to adapt to a multipolar world, including diversifying energy, resource, and technological dependencies.

• Engage with international partners to create resilient, cooperative frameworks that reduce reliance on U.S.-dominated systems.

Conclusion

The current global financial architecture is deeply intertwined with clandestine operations, elite governance, and advanced control technologies. While systemic vulnerabilities exist, there are tangible pathways toward transparency, sovereignty, and resilience. Strategic, coordinated action by informed stakeholders can catalyze a transition toward a more equitable and transparent global order.

Appendices

• A. Glossary of Key Entities & Concepts

• B. Summary of Black Budget & Hidden Technologies

• C. Legal & Legislative Resources

• D. Recommended Reading & Resources (e.g., Solari Reports, Joseph Farrell’s work)

Prepared by:
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October 2023

Title: The Hidden Power Structures of the Global Financial System: An Overview for the Public and Professionals

1. Agreement Capable
The ability for people or groups to reach and keep agreements. The lack of this, particularly in US leadership, is seen as contributing to societal failure. Training a population to operate without morals reportedly makes them powerless and unable to be agreement capable.

2. Aristocracy of Stock Profits
The title of an online book by Catherine Austin Fitts, described as a case study in the intersection between organized crime, Wall Street, and Washington.

3. Assistant Secretary of Housing / Federal Housing Commissioner
The person who oversees all the mortgage markets, including credit, rules, and regulation. This position is part of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

4. Bank of International Settlements (BIS)
Described as the central bank of central banks. The 63 largest, most important central banks in the world reportedly belong to it. Top central bankers meet there regularly. It is stated to have sovereign immunity and the power to move and hold money secretly. The Financial Stability Board is a group within the BIS.

5. Black Budget
A term used to describe funds reportedly financed with mortgage fraud. It is also discussed in relation to potentially financing futuristic weaponry, alternative propulsion systems, a secret space program, and underground infrastructure. The US Department of Defense (DOD) was reportedly missing funds connected to the black budget. Transferring black technology funded by taxpayers onto corporate balance sheets is described as a way to generate enormous profits and keep information secret. The black budget was able to move more "on budget" after 9/11. The black and secret economy is described as more than half of the US economy.

6. Black Technology (transfer to corporations)
Invaluable technology reportedly funded by taxpayers but transferred secretly onto corporate balance sheets. This transfer is enabled by corporations doing highly classified work under an executive order. It allows information to be kept away from public access requests (FOIA) by being behind the corporate veil.

7. Bloodlines / Eugenics
Beliefs reportedly held by some within the breakaway civilization that some people are genetically superior and that bloodlines are important, likened to breeding racehorses or champion cattle. This is linked to the idea of a "master race".

8. Bohemian Grove
An example of a meeting place where big decisions about the federal budget are reportedly debated and figured out by consensus by committees.

9. Breakaway Civilization
A term used to describe a group or corporate infrastructure that has reportedly broken away from traditional society, potentially more advanced and not subject to established laws. It is speculated to be potentially financed by stolen money and seen as having its own infrastructure, including underground facilities. It is described as thinking of itself as a separate civilization, potentially separate from the human race. Joseph Farrell writes about this, and theories about its origin include Nazi connections.

10. Breakthrough Energy / Low Cost Forms of Energy
Potential sources of energy that could dramatically lower energy costs. Inventors are reportedly gathering to discuss what's possible. If widely available on an uncontrolled basis, it could make it difficult to control people, potentially motivating the pursuit of a control grid.

11. Building Wealth Curriculum (Solari)
A curriculum offered by Solari focusing on living one's life to be free and helping others be free, including protecting against the great poisoning.

12. Capital Gains
Profits reportedly made from increased stock value. They are described as the number one source of campaign contributions in a kickback system.

13. Central Bank
An institution that issues currency. The New York Fed acts as the federal government's banker. Central banks belong to the Bank of International Settlements (BIS).

14. Central Banking Warfare Model
The economic model the Western world has reportedly operated on for 500 years. Central bankers print money out of thin air, and the military/intelligence ensure people accept it. It reportedly requires both bankers running monetary policy and military/intelligence backing it up.

15. Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC)
A digital currency discussed in relation to the control grid. While not the only way to achieve digital control (stablecoins are another), it reportedly represents a form of centralized control over money, allowing rules to be made and enforced about what money can be used for. A CBDC would reportedly be issued by the Federal Reserve.

16. CIA Act ('49)
A law reportedly created after the National Security Act, described as making the CIA the most powerful banker in the world (on the covert side).

17. Civil and Criminal Money Penalties
Fines reportedly paid by institutions like JPMorgan Chase for activities described as defrauding and harming people. JPMorgan Chase reportedly paid $42 billion in these penalties from 2006-2018.

18. Collins Elite
A group of military intelligence that reportedly came to believe that ET phenomena was demonic intelligence. This is explored in the book "Final Event" by Nick Redfern.

19. Control Grid
A system aiming for complete central control over the population. It is associated with digital technology, an all-digital financial system, digital ID, and a social credit system. It could potentially be used to restrict activities based on compliance (e.g., locking down, taking shots, eating pizza). It reportedly involves using both private and public sector financial systems. Implementing it involves achieving a precise digital ID, an all-digital financial system, interoperable money, and a social credit system. It is described as the most energy wasteful thing of all. Resisting it reportedly involves transparency, describing solutions, individual action, and working with state legislatures.

20. Corporate Infrastructure (on both sides of fight)
Described in relation to World War II, where corporate entities were reportedly involved in supporting both the US and Germany, as detailed in the book "Trading with the Enemies".

21. Corporate Veil
The legal barrier that separates a corporation from its owners, reportedly used to keep information about black technology transferred to corporations away from public access requests (FOIA).

22. Covert Revenues
HUD is described as the "candy store" for these.

23. Crime that Pays is Crime that Stays
A principle stating that if criminal activity is profitable, it will continue.

24. Data Centers
Facilities reportedly needed to store the enormous amount of data collected for digitizing everything and running AI. The plan for data centers in Texas reportedly requires 30 new nuclear plants by 2030.

25. Digital ID / Real ID
A necessary component for a control grid, described as needing to be high quality, precise, and interoperable globally. The Real ID is mentioned as being aggressively implemented.

26. Digital Technology / All Digital Financial System
Seen as enabling complete central control for the first time in history. It is reportedly necessary for the control grid.

27. Dillon Read
A firm where Catherine Austin Fitts was a partner.

28. Dollar System (reserve currency)
The system where the US dollar is the world's reserve currency. Running this system reportedly allows for the extraction of a "tithe" or subsidy. Expenses reportedly include funding the military and intelligence, governing sea lanes, and being the global cop. The cost of running the model reportedly includes buying off and paying off the American people to go along with it.

29. Exchange Stabilization Fund
A fund out of which a "slush fund" was reportedly run after World War II, partly to create the infrastructure for covert money replenishment.

30. Executive Order (Reagan, corporations do classified work)
An order reportedly signed by President Reagan that allowed corporations to do highly classified work. This enabled the transfer of black technology to corporations.

31. Federal Budget
The plan for collecting and spending taxes. Roughly half the money reportedly comes from taxes and half from the central bank or borrowing. The budget process can reportedly involve committees and decisions made by consensus at meetings like Bohemian Grove. It is described as engineered around "fees for our friends".

32. FHA (Federal Housing Administration)
The part of HUD where the Assistant Secretary of Housing oversees mortgage markets. It reportedly finances mortgages and puts insurance policies on them, taking the credit risk. Foreclosed properties reportedly end up in FHA's inventory after default. Catherine Austin Fitts was reportedly the lead financial advisor for the FHA under the Clinton administration.

33. Financial Coup d'etat
A term used to describe a change where bankers reportedly decided to take over control of both monetary and fiscal policy from the people and their representatives. It is stated to have gone very far but is not complete. This reportedly started around 1990.

34. Financial Fraud
Described as having thousands of "recipes". In personal experience, it was the number two cause of family bankruptcy or loss of family wealth.

35. Financial Crisis
A period when there was a massive bailout, described as three times all existing mortgages in the country.

36. Financial Sovereignty
The ability to run a government without getting an "allowance from dad" (borrowing money). It is reportedly lost when dependent on external borrowing.

37. Fiscal Policy
The ability to collect and spend taxes. It is supposed to be run by the people's representatives (Congress or state legislature). A "financial coup d'etat" is described where bankers reportedly decided to take over control of both monetary and fiscal policy.

38. Foreclosed properties
Properties reportedly taken back by the FHA after a mortgage defaults. They reportedly sit in FHA's inventory. The number of boarded-up, foreclosed properties in FHA inventory was reportedly 50,000 at one point.

39. Genius Act (Stablecoin legislation)
A proposed plan for Stablecoins. It is expected to pass, potentially allowing the world to "rock". It would reportedly allow subsidiaries of the banks that own the New York Fed to issue stablecoins.

40. Global Money Laundering / Organized Crime Money
The United States is described as a global leader in this. Stopping these flows is reportedly difficult due to financial dependency. Organized crime money is seen intersecting with Wall Street and Washington. It is something that would reportedly need to be stopped by using force wisely if running an organized crime syndicate.

41. Great Poisoning
Refers to making money from poisoned people. It reportedly involves food, health care, spraying, and pharmaceuticals. This is part of a budget debate. The US government is described as systematically poisoning and killing the population, with the COVID pandemic cited as a mass atrocity. Protecting one's family from this is part of resisting the control grid.

42. HHS Budget (Health and Human Services)
The government budget for health and human services. It is described as very expensive and related to the cost of poisoning the population. It is the subject of a fractious battle, partly because the government is reportedly legally liable if the truth about poisoning Americans comes out. It is seen as bankrupting the country.

43. HUD (Housing and Urban Development)
A government department where the Assistant Secretary of Housing works. It is described as the "candy store of covert revenues" by a former intelligence officer. HUD was reportedly missing a trillion dollars from its financial statements from 1998 to 2015.

44. Information Sovereignty
The ability to have private communication without surveillance from intelligence agencies. It is reportedly lost when the president cannot have a private phone call due to surveillance.

45. Infrastructure Underground / Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs)
Facilities potentially financed by stolen money. Some are reportedly publicly known as existing, needed for continuity of government. The infrastructure is guessed to be much greater than publicly known, possibly including full cities underground. Truckers reportedly deliver materials to these spaces.

46. Interdimensional Intelligence / Demonic Intelligence
Described as intelligent beings from other dimensions that may be manipulating humanity. This is linked to concepts in Christianity (demons, angels). Some military intelligence groups reportedly came to believe ET phenomena was demonic.

47. Internet of Bodies
Refers to putting materials (like nanoparticles) into people's bodies to make them reportedly easier to interact with telecommunications and digital technology. It's seen as potentially creating the equivalent of an "organic barcode". Research and patents reportedly exist on this. Mysterious ingredients in food, spray, and injections are questioned in relation to this concept.

48. Intergenerational Pools of Capital
Capital reportedly managed over long periods by those making top governance decisions. These managers are reportedly responsible for risk and are seen as frustrated by and afraid of the general population.

49. Invisible Weaponry / Secret Weaponry
Mentioned as something potentially financed by stolen money. It is also cited as backing up the dollar system, preventing its collapse.

50. Joseph Farrell
A scholar with a PhD from Oxford who reportedly writes books about a breakaway civilization, Nazi origins, the secret space program, and ancient history. He collaborates with Catherine Austin Fitts on topics including the secret governance system and the financial system from an integrated perspective. He reportedly emphasizes saving the culture and the power of individual action. He has also written about plunder.

51. JPMorgan Chase
Mentioned as an institution described as being "deep in the mortgage fraud". It was reportedly the only bank account for Madoff's Ponzi scheme. It has reportedly accumulated $42 billion in civil and criminal money penalties for various activities described as defrauding and harming people. Banking here is questioned if alternatives are available.

52. Kickback System
A system where government actions that increase stock values reportedly generate capital gains, which are then used for political contributions. This system is described in the book "Dillon Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits".

53. Life Expectancy (lowering)
A potential consequence of refusing to fully fund the retirement system, reportedly used as a way to balance the budget when delaying the retirement age is politically difficult. Life expectancy in the US reportedly started to fall after a budget deal busted in 1995.

54. Local Bank / Credit Union (alternative banking)
Recommended as alternatives to large institutions reportedly involved in fraud. Solari reportedly offers resources on finding good ones.

55. Madoff Fraud
A Ponzi scheme that reportedly had only one bank account at JPMorgan Chase after the mid-nineties. JPMorgan Chase reportedly controlled the scheme during this time, knowing no securities were being bought because there was no securities custodian.

56. Meta Structure (using sovereign immunity entities)
A network of international organizations with sovereign immunity, reportedly created since World War II, used for activities not subject to national laws, enabling the secret movement of money and data.

57. Military Contractors
Companies that reportedly do highly classified work for the government. They can reportedly run systems for government departments like HUD. They are described as potentially controlling the government through killing people who don't comply, in addition to lobbying. Information can be kept secret by transferring black technology to these corporations, hiding it behind the corporate veil.

58. Missing Money
Refers to funds reportedly unaccounted for, such as a trillion dollars missing from HUD's financial statements and 21 trillion dollars in "undocumentable adjustments" from the US government as of 2015. This money may have been used to finance a "new system" or "breakaway civilization" and investments in black budget technology and infrastructure.

59. Mister Global
A nickname for the committee at the top that reportedly makes all the big decisions globally. The question "Who is Mister Global and why is he doing what he's doing?" is a focus of inquiry.

60. Monetary Policy
The ability to create currency. In the central banking warfare model, bankers reportedly run this.

61. Moral Culture / Morality / Values
Described as important for a society to be productive. Investing in rebuilding values is seen as crucial, especially in the context of AI development. A population trained without morals is reportedly made powerless.

62. Mortgage Fraud
Described as having thousands of "recipes". It is stated that a lot of the black budget is reportedly financed with mortgage fraud. One basic fraud reportedly involves selling a foreclosed property at a higher value than it is worth with a mortgage, selling it again to a not-for-profit that immediately defaults, and repeating the process to generate money out the back door. Multiple mortgages (e.g., 10) can reportedly be issued on one house and put into a mortgage pool wrapped by Ginnie Mae to be sold internationally without others knowing the difference. Mortgage fraud was reportedly a significant part of the S&L crisis cleanup in '89 and was reportedly deep within FHA and the government.

63. Multipolar World
The current state or emerging state where multiple powers exist, reportedly replacing the unipolar model. This reportedly requires changing the economic model.

64. Nanoparticles
Mysterious ingredients potentially found in food, spray, and injections, discussed in relation to the Internet of Bodies. They are speculated to potentially create an "organic barcode" in the human body.

65. National Security Act ('47)
A law that reportedly gives the ability to set up secret infrastructure.

66. Nazi Origin (of breakaway civilization theory)
Joseph Farrell's theory that the breakaway civilization has connections or origins reportedly related to Nazis who never surrendered after World War II. This reportedly involves figures like Dulles and the transfer of Nazi scientists into the US national security state.

67. New York Fed
The depository for the federal government's bank account. It is reportedly owned by its member banks. It also acts as an agent reportedly doing various things for the Treasury, including primary dealer functions.

68. Operating Systems (in people's bodies)
A term reportedly used by Moderna's chief scientist officer to describe what their injections were installing. This is related to the Internet of Bodies. The goal is potentially to make bodies plug-and-play for future interventions or easier to interact with digital technology.

69. Organized Religion (misused vs true)
Organized religion, when misused, can be a source of death and war. True religion can be a source of many great things.

70. Patriot Act / Concentration and Control of Cash Flow Act
A law passed after 9/11. It is seen as having reportedly moved a lot of black budget activity on budget. It reportedly led to the building of many national security installations. Catherine Austin Fitts proposes the alternative name "Concentration and Control of Cash Flow Act".

71. Plasma
Described as making up 99% of the universe. It is stated to be alive and intelligent. This suggests the universe and life itself are alive and intelligent.

72. Plunder (of US balance sheet/assets)
The act of stealing or taking assets, described as happening globally and now potentially in North America. The US reportedly owns a huge amount of land and mineral resources ("500 trillion" mentioned) which could be plundered.

73. Power (from force vs righteousness)
Two ways to get power are described: amassing force (ultimately backed by violence) and power from righteousness (calling on divine intelligence, making/keeping contracts, communicating openly). The latter is seen as potentially more powerful.

74. Primary Dealer
An entity reportedly authorized to borrow money using treasury bonds and bills, putting it into the Treasury bank account. Howard Lutnick was described as a primary dealer.

75. Project Paperclip
The operation to reportedly bring 4,000 plus Nazi scientists into the US national security state.

76. Prototyping
Paying other countries to implement policies (like mandates and controls during the pandemic) is described as potentially being used for prototyping, to see how something planned for one's own country could work elsewhere.

77. Red Button Story
A story reportedly describing how people were unwilling to stop organized crime flows because they wanted their checks to keep coming, illustrating financial dependency. It can be found on the Internet.

78. Retirement System / Pension Funds
Systems holding investments, some of which may be in government bonds. These are seen as needing to be funded. When the budget deal broke in 1995, a concerted effort to put the retirement system on a sound financial basis failed, reportedly leading to decisions that systematically lowered life expectancy.

79. Risk Managers
Those reportedly responsible for managing long-term risks. They are seen as thinking in very long terms and potentially pursuing complete control to manage risks like potential collapses or inability to get people to follow plans. They are reportedly involved in building underground infrastructure as a continuity of government measure.

80. Rule of Law
The principle by which a complex society reportedly depends. Taking away the ability to be agreement capable (by training without morals) reportedly causes society to fail.

81. Secret Governance System
A system operating in the United States that has reportedly decided to change how the country is governed and managed. It reportedly desires central control using digital technology. It has reportedly been getting bigger over time.

82. Secret Space Program
Mentioned as something potentially financed by stolen money. Joseph Farrell reportedly does a lot of work on this. It is discussed in the context of breakthrough energy and suborbital platforms.

83. Social Credit System
A system that can reportedly be applied granularly to individuals using AI and software. Based on behavior, individuals might reportedly receive different permissions or restrictions (e.g., travel limits). This system can be enforced using an all-digital financial system. It is mentioned as a component implemented by people like Elon Musk. Aggregating data (Social Security, IRS, Treasury, health care) is reportedly crucial for building it.

84. Solari Report
A website or platform where Catherine Austin Fitts reportedly provides information and resources.

85. Sovereign Immunity
A legal status where entities are reportedly above the law. Since World War II, a network of international organizations (like parts of the UN, World Bank, IMF, BIS) have reportedly been created with different variations of sovereign immunity. This meta-structure is used for behavior and economic activities reportedly not subject to national laws, essentially for "running the world". The Financial Stability Board at BIS reportedly defines "systemically important institutions" that appear to get some benefits of this.

86. Stablecoins
A form of digital currency that can be reportedly used to implement the control grid, as an alternative to CBDCs. They are described as being able to reportedly work with a social credit system. Under the proposed Genius Act, these would reportedly be issued by subsidiaries of the banks that own the New York Fed. They are described as fully collateralized by a dollar, a bank deposit, or a treasury bill/bond. They could reportedly create a huge market for treasury bills/bonds and be sent out on global payment platforms to get people off local currencies.

87. State Legislature (role in resisting control grid)
Described as having constitutional power to protect the constitution and reportedly slow down or stop the control grid. Solari reportedly provides resources on this.

88. Stock Market
A place where stocks trade. Increased stock value reportedly creates capital gains. Part of a kickback system where government actions increasing stock values reportedly lead to campaign contributions.

89. Stringers
Gig workers reportedly used as enforcers or followers, potentially getting assignments via smartphone. They are described as being funded by the US government through contractors.

90. Subsidy (from running dollar system)
The ability to extract value, like printing currency "out of thin air". This is reportedly used to fund military/intelligence and pay off the American people. This ability is reportedly lost when moving to a multipolar world.

91. TARP IG (Troubled Asset Relief Program Inspector General)
Stated that the total taxpayer-financed bailout money was 27 trillion dollars.

92. Third Rail (political/financial power)
An analogy from transit systems where the third track carries electricity. It reportedly represents the power source or control mechanism that those in charge don't want the general population messing with. Keeping people busy with "divide and conquer" tactics reportedly diverts them from this.

93. Top Secret America (publication)
A Washington Post publication that reportedly documented national security installations built after the Patriot Act.

94. Trading with the Enemies (book by Hickam)
A book described as detailing how a corporate infrastructure in the US was reportedly involved in helping Germany during World War II.

95. Transparency
Bringing information into the open is described as a way to push back against crony capitalism and the control grid.

96. Treasury (Department)
The government department that manages federal finances. The Treasury bank account is reportedly at the New York Fed. Treasury bonds and bills are reportedly used by primary dealers to borrow money, which contributes to currency existence. This money is reportedly put into the Treasury bank account. It also holds payment data reportedly valuable for a control grid.

97. Trump (role in implementing control grid)
Described as having been reportedly put in by the bankers to implement the control grid because the "other team" wasn't moving fast enough. He is seen as moving very fast to build the control grid by reportedly implementing Real ID, pushing for an all-digital financial system, and supporting interoperable money/stablecoins. His actions regarding Doge are also linked to reportedly building a social credit system.

98. Unipolar Model
A goal set by the US after the Soviet Union collapsed, aiming for the US to be the single dominant power. This model is stated to have failed.

The global financial system operates beneath a complex and often clandestine layer of control, where a small elite influences the flow of money, resources, and power worldwide. At its core, major institutions like the U.S. Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and the Bank for International Settlements serve as central nodes, rigging markets and maintaining a web of covert operations that divert trillions of dollars into black budgets and secret projects.

A significant portion of this underground activity involves extensive fraud, such as mortgage schemes that inflate property values, default defaults, and offshore laundering. These schemes not only generate enormous illicit profits but also fund advanced technologies, space programs, and weaponry kept hidden from the public. Estimates suggest over $21 trillion remains unaccounted for, representing a vast black budget that sustains a secret infrastructure beyond public oversight.

This hidden system is interconnected with elite networks that influence major global decisions—sometimes referred to as "Mister Global"—operating through secret societies, elite meetings, and occult practices. These groups are believed to manipulate geopolitical events, including shifts toward multipolar power structures, while maintaining control over environmental, financial, and technological resources.

Technological advancements now threaten to amplify this control. Digital currencies, like Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) and stablecoins, enable unprecedented granular surveillance and behavior modification, allowing authorities to restrict purchases, control movement, and enforce social credit systems. These tools are designed to centralize power, often justified as necessary for stability but with significant risks for individual freedoms.

Amidst these hidden forces, the public faces a crisis of transparency and sovereignty. The system's dependence on covert activities, environmental degradation, and social manipulation underscores the urgent need for awareness, grassroots action, and legislative reform. By understanding these underlying power structures, citizens and professionals alike can better advocate for transparency, ethical governance, and a fairer distribution of resources.

In conclusion, while the machinery of the global financial system remains largely concealed, recognizing its influence is crucial. Building awareness and supporting efforts toward transparent, decentralized alternatives can empower individuals to reclaim sovereignty and foster a more just and sustainable future.

TRANSCRIPT OF PODCAST
Well, thanks for coming here. I'm really excited to talk to you. Thank you. I I as I said, I really enjoy your show. So So so for people that don't know, can you kind of give us a summary of your background in, in the government working with the Bush administration and then getting into, like, finance and all this stuff?

So I grew up in Philadelphia, and I got very interested as a child on I I got very interested in money and why everybody was destroying everything on the theory that somehow that made them money. And so I decided I was gonna understand how all the money worked in the neighborhood. All the money on the planet works to understand how the money in in a US neighborhood works. Because it's it's very centralized, and it's organized so that, you know, so if you and I go to the White House and say, here's how all the money works on housing. Here's how all the money works on know, so if you and I go to the White House, it'll say, here's how all the money works in housing.

Here's how all the money works in military. But it doesn't say, here's how the money works, you know, in West Philadelphia. So you can't now with relational databases, you you could, and I've worked on that. But, anyway, so I went to Wall Street because I wanted to learn how all the money the planet works. And I went from sort of department to department to department learning all the different markets, and then I figured out, you know, it's all being rigged from Washington.

It's the Treasury and the Fed. So I gotta go to Washington. So I went to Washington. I was a partner at a firm called Dillon Read. And, in fact, I have an online book called Dillon Read and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits about, sort of it's a it's a case study in the intersection between organized crime and Wall Street and Washington.

Mhmm. Anyway, so I went to Washington in the first Bush administration to be assistant secretary of housing. And, it's the federal housing commissioner, and that's the person who oversees all the mortgage markets, both the credit most of the credit and then the rules and regulation. So, and I ran smack into all the mortgage corruption because a lot of the black budget is financed with mortgage fraud. And, anyway, so I left and but I discovered the Internet when I was, in the administration.

And so I created an investment bank that could use software tools basically to get all the information about how the money works and make it accessible to neighborhoods. So, anyway but my company has started a company called Hamilton Securities Group. It was very successful. And we got hired on competitive bid by the Clinton administration. So I worked in the Bush administration, but we got hired by the Clinton administration to be financial adviser for the FHA.

And we led $10,000,000,000 of, mortgage auctions trying to stop the mortgage fraud, which was they had other ideas. They wanted to take the mortgage fraud the other way so we can have the financial crisis. Anyway, so I ended up with in eleven years of litigation with the federal government, with the Department of Justice. Have you ever seen the movie Enemy of the State? With Will Smith?

It's been a long time. Yeah. I played Will Smith in real life. Oh, wow. I played Will Smith in real life.

So we had 18 audits and investigations, 12 tracks of litigation, physical harassment, a smear campaign. It was I mean, it was right out of the movies. And, of course so so Will Smith is a successful attorney. And, in fact, his office in the movie is right next to where my office was. Our company office was in Washington.

And, you know, everything's crazy and the world makes sense until he finds Gene Hackman, who's a former NSA employee, who explains how covert operations were. And in fact, now if you come to the Solari Report, we have a whole 12 part series called Deep State Tactics. So if you can't find Jean, you can listen to Deep State Tactics and understand how it all works. Anyway but I got a real crash course. I'll never forget.

First time I saw, Enemy of the State, I'm like, up in the front row, and I'm like, oh, it's my training movie. Wow. Right. That's amazing. So when you talk about the mortgage fraud, what specifically do you mean, and how does that how does that work?

So so financial fraud and mortgage fraud is like the joy of cooking. There are thousands of recipes. Right? But if you wanna know the most prominent likely famous recipe for mortgage fraud in HUD housing, all you have to do is look up, the Tony Soprano TV show did a series of four parts on HUD fraud by Tony Soprano. Really?

Yes. And and the basic and and it's interesting because the one of the things that got me interested in money is it was this fraud that destroyed the value of homes in my neighborhood when I was a little girl. We had four boarded up, foreclosed properties, catty cornered to our block in West Philadelphia. And it had a huge sign, and it said by order of the assistant secretary of housing, federal housing commissioner. And I used to think, who is that asshole?

And so so when I literally, when I was sworn in, they said, by order of the president, you are now the assistant secretary of housing. I said, uh-oh. I'm the, you know and I went downstairs, and I said, how many boarded up homes? How many foreclosed properties do we have in the foreclosed industry? My deputy said 50,000.

I said, well, that's gonna change, and that was part of the problem. But okay. So let's look at the basic fraud. Okay. I so there's a home in the foreclosed property inventory of the Federal Housing Administration.

They had financed a mortgage. They they put the, an insurance policy on the mortgage, so they take the credit risk. It defaults. They pay off the mortgage holder and then take back the properties. The property is sitting there in inventory.

Okay? So let's say the property is worth a hundred thousand dollars. So, like, when you find a a house for sale on HUD auction, this is that's the situation. Yes. Probably.

Got it. Probably. Okay. So so let's say the house is worth a hundred thousand dollars. Okay.

You, sell the house to someone, or or or you who's gonna do sort of a quickie fix up. Okay? And you let them turn around and sell it at you you put a mortgage. Let's say it's worth a hundred and 50 now. They've fixed it up.

Mhmm. You put a mortgage on it for $2.50, a lot more than it's worth. Okay? They sell it to a not for profit who immediately defaults. Right?

You pay off the $2.50 mortgage and take the property back, and you keep doing it again and again and again Mhmm. And generating lots of money out the back door. So when I became FHA commissioner, we would find private rental property in in Chicago, which had financed and defaulted five times in one year. Wow. I know.

I can't imagine that. Anyway, so but here's here's how I can make even more money. I had a friend who did this. Not a friend. He was a guy who came in.

He was one of my first guests on the podcast. And he was he was buying up houses in Tampa, and, he was taking them and getting his friend to go do appraisals on them and, like, marking the appraisal up by, like, five x Right. And then getting loans on it. Right. That's sort of the that's a variation now.

Here's how you really make a lot of money. When you when you issue the mortgage, you don't issue one mortgage. You issue 10 mortgages on that house, and you put them in a mortgage pool that's wrapped by Ginnie Mae so you can sell them in Dubai, and nobody knows the difference. Right? Right.

And as long as there's money you can skim out the backdoor of the FHA fund, no problem. Wow. Right. And it's it's really funny. So so I had warned people about this kind of fraud, both when I was assistant secretary and then when I was the lead financial adviser.

But, you know, you're you're you know what it's like when you fight these wins. And and so I'm driving down the highway in Georgia, and my old roommate from college calls me and she says, Fitz, have you seen the Soprano TV shows? They have the HUD frauds on the Soprano TV shows. And she said, I guess you're telling the truth. And I said, wait a minute.

So I was the former assistant secretary of housing, and then I was the lead financial advisor for HUD. And I've told you about this for years. You don't believe me until it's on the Soprano TV show. She said, that's right. So I said, that's why I say in America, fact is fiction and fiction is fact.

If it's on the news, it's likely fiction. You know, if it's if it's on the Soprano TV show, there's a Oh, yeah. You know, you're getting your training filmed. Yeah. That's an interesting way of looking at it.

Well, remember, during the financial crisis, within a very short period of time, there was more money shoveling out the door. I mean, we the the TARP IG said total, money, the taxpayer's finance is 27,000,000,000,000. 8 trillion dollars would have paid off all the single family mortgages in the country. Right? So so the total bailout of the mortgage fraud was three times all existing mortgages in the country.

That's bananas. So one of my favorite quotes, I was told by a former intelligence officer who was involved in the financial fraud that Oliver North had said that HUD was the candy store of covert revenues. And I based on what I cleaned up and what I dealt with, I'm I'm absolutely convinced. Was the candy store of covert revenues. That is Well, that's got a nice ring to it.

HUD's missing just from its financial statements, a trillion dollars from '2 from 1998 to 02/2015. So that's my whole thing about the missing money, which I Catherine is a you know, that's one of those issues. Catherine won't let go of. It keeps banging. Okay.

So can you explain to me, and I know you've done this well on on other shows, but how does the banking system work? I know everybody thinks about how, like, the bankers control the world. It's like the bank it's the bankers, the intelligence agencies, the and the the money washing with the drug cartels and and all this stuff with funding, you know, wars and overthrowing countries, and there's so much going on here. But the very top level of all of this stuff is the bankers. Right?

Right. So so here's how the you know, any business, any enterprise, and any planet has a business model, an economic model on how the fundamental walk. So the Western world for 500 has operated on a model called central banking warfare model. Okay? The central bankers print money out of thin air, and I'm grossly oversimplifying.

But they Yeah. Create the money, and then the military make sure that people take it. Okay? And that keeps the liquidity going. So there are two sides of the coin.

And when you say military, think intelligence and military because surveillance is such an important part Mhmm. Of the force. So you you literally have the bankers running monetary policy, but then you have the military and intelligence backing it up. And you need both. It's like two hands of one coin.

It's like two sides of a coin. Okay. Okay? Right. And and the what what the bankers do you grew up in The United States.

Most people listening to this grew up in the Western people's representatives run fiscal policy. So the whole basis of the American Revolution was no taxation without representation. That means the people's representatives, the congress or the state legislature, run the fiscal policies the way it's supposed to be. And what has happened in America for the last twenty years is we've had what I call a financial coup d'etat where the bankers decided we can't trust the people and the people's representatives to manage the fiscal side, so we're gonna change the model and we're gonna take over control of of both monetary and fiscal. And, of course, if that succeeds and it's gone very far, but it's not all the way Mhmm.

So let's say we've gone 70% of the way. We have 30 more to go. If that happens, then we lose the ability to determine taxation. In In other words, we get no representation. If they want the money, they just take it out of our accounts.

Could you explain for a third grader what fiscal policy means Sure. Monetary policy means? It's monetary policy means I get to create the currency. Fiscal policy means I get to to collect and and spend the taxes. Okay.

Got it. So so so let's look how your federal government works. Your federal government, grossly oversimplified, gets about half of its money to, you know, fix the roads and do what it and run the military, and it gets the money by half of the money from taxing. So we all pay federal taxes. We all have fees, various fines, whatever.

Half the money comes from the taxes and half from where? Half comes from the central bank. Okay. Got it. The central banking mechanism right now, the the the currency is issued with debt.

It doesn't have to be, but it is. So the New York Fed so so the treasury, your bank account as a citizen is at is is the New York Fed is the depository for your bank account. Okay? So they are the federal government's bankers. The treasury account is at the New York Fed and its members' banks.

So the New York Fed is owned by its members, but they also act as agent. So you're gonna have the largest banks in the country owning and directing the New York Fed choosing its president, but also, you know, doing depository functions for the treasury. So they, as agent, are also doing various things for the treasury. Okay. So they have a function called primary dealer.

And a primary dealer is authorized to go borrow money using treasury bonds and bills. So they borrow money, so that's sort of part of how the currency gets into existence, and they put it in the Treasury bank account. So half comes from taxes and half comes from borrowing, a lot of that coming from your retirement account or my pension fund. Wow. Okay?

Okay. Okay. So so our retirement fund or it could be a a a Norwegian pension fund or sovereign wealth fund Mhmm. You know, or buying treasury bonds and the money's going into the bank account, and that's where half comes from, which is why if you're the president of The United States, it's like getting an allowance from dad. If you don't do what dad wants, you're not gonna get your allowance.

You don't have sovereignty. You don't have financial sovereignty. And you don't have information sovereignty because you, as the president, can't have a private telephone call. You got 17 intelligence agencies. Even the president.

Yeah. Especially the president. Especially the president. They'd much rather know what he's saying than you or I was saying. Right?

I guess that's true. Right. Okay. Wow. Right.

So how are you gonna run a government if you don't have information sovereignty and you don't have financial sovereignty? How are you gonna do that? That's a good question. What do you think? So you've heard have you heard my red button story?

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Okay. Yeah. And and what the red button story says is since the American people want their check, they don't want you to say no to, you know, the people who control the monetary. That they they wanna keep so so we are The United States is a global leader in global money laundering and organized crime money. Okay.

K? We're the global leader. And if that money stops, you know, the red button story, and you can find it on the Internet if you wanna listen to it. But the red button story is people were not willing to push a red button to stop the organized crime flows because they wanted their checks to keep coming. So we have a financial dependency as a as a society on on things, you know, doing things that harm other people, including our own children, our own selves.

You know, so I talk a lot about the great poisoning. We have a tremendous number of industries in The United States that are making money from poisoned people, and they're very resistant to stopping the poisoning. Right? That's what this big debate is about, and it's a budget debate. So Are you are you talking about, like, food and health care, basically?

Talking about food and health care, spraying, what's in the pharmaceuticals. Yeah. If you look at the federal budget, we so let's go back to the model, the central banking warfare model. The key to the central banking warfare model is if you're running the reserve currency for the world, the dollar system, you have to make more from running it. You have to make enough from running it to, fund your military and intelligence.

You know, there's a lot of work in governing the sea lanes and being the global cop and running the trade model and all of that. Yeah. So you have expenses. And so when you hear the president yelling at everybody at NATO, like, you have to share more, What he's saying is that that the subsidy from the dollar system minus the interest on his debt minus the cost of the military intelligence is no longer working, and he's gotta rebalance the model. The subsidy?

Yeah. What do you mean by the subsidy? So running the dollar system, you get to extract a tithe. So let's say tomorrow, we created Danny Jones dollars. Okay?

And whenever you wanted some, you could just print it off your computer. Okay. And you could pay people throughout this community for food or, you know, or for for services for doing your landscaping Okay. With Danny Jones dollars that you just my own printer. And you have your own printer.

That's a big subsidy. Right? Okay. Yes. That is a big subsidy.

That is a big subsidy. That's a that's an unlimited subsidy. It's not unlimited if you have to pay everybody in America off to go along with what you wanna do. So part of the big cost of the running the model is the American people vote based on domestic issues and don't understand what's involved in running the whole global model. Right.

And so you've you've basically gotta buy them off and pay them off to get them to sort of go along with whatever you wanna do. Got it. And that's expensive. So if you look what what happened at the end of the when the Soviet Union collapsed, The US said we wanna be a unipolar model. One of the reasons I left Washington, I said your plan won't work.

And and the failure in the Ukraine was the the message plan failed. And now we have Rubio, secretary of state, saying, oh, we're gonna be a multi you know, it's a multipolar world now. Yeah. So the unipolar model failed. Mhmm.

And so the model has to change. We have to we're still running the reserve currency, but you have to rebalance the model. The unipolar plan didn't didn't work, and it wasted a great deal of capital. Right. Right?

So now we have to change the model. And so if you see the president talking about, you know, I want Canada to be the fifty first state or I want Greenland. He's trying if he can't go East West, remember, they were gonna collapse the Soviet Union, get all those resources, and use that to maintain the unipolar model vis a vis China. Okay. That didn't work.

So now he's talking going North south instead of going East West. Right? Right. Yes. Right.

Yes. Yes. So he he's just trying to figure out you have to change the model. And if you look at the debate and discussions going on in Washington Mhmm. The unfortunate thing is whoever is in the White House, they have to change the model.

They don't have a choice. The model the technology changes in the world, competition among various parties means we have to change the model. We have to evolve the model. We have to. And so the question is, how do you do it?

And, unfortunately, there are too many people in America sitting around and saying, wow, wow, wow. We don't wanna change. Mhmm. But that's not, you know, it's not changing because whoever's in the Oval Office now wants it to change. The it it's changing because they gotta change.

You have to change for the times. I don't think most people even think about this kind of stuff. I think most people are more are are more focused on squabbles that are irrelevant to geopolitics or Well, that's the financial system or the balance of power. Away from the third rail. If I'm running this, I don't want the general population to mess with the third rail.

Do you know what I mean by the third rail? What do you mean by the third rail? On a transit system or a railroad system, you have two tracks. That's where the wheels go. You have a third track.

There's a little trim tap that flips over, and that's where the electricity runs. Oh, okay. Okay? So that's the power. Okay?

And you don't want them messing with the power. So you keep them busy with divide and conquer and they get a polar Right. Pendulum and all that kind of stuff. Mhmm. But that has nothing to do with what's really going on.

Right. And when you say that they need to they need the American people to pay for what they're doing, When when you mentioned that earlier, were you specifically talking about individuals, or were you talking about, like, lobbyists? So so here's what I mean. If you look at the federal budget last year, so the 2025 year, we had a military budget of $857,000,000,000. Billion dollars.

And Hegseth wants to take it to a trillion. He says it needs to be a trillion. The HHS budget is 1,800,000,000,000.0, and that's because we're all poisoning each other. American people are poisoned. They're chronically ill.

And our our if you look at our health care system, it's almost double the cost of Switzerland's health care system. So we spend more per capita than just any country in the world by a lot. And so it's very expensive. And, but so Mark Skidmore, who is the professor at Michigan State University, who's helped me a lot sort of document the all the money missing from the federal government, he just finished a calculation. We just did a show with him on the Solaire Report.

If we cut disability, so the number of people in America who are disabled back down to 2,010 levels, you would you would drop that h h bud HHS budget by half a trillion dollars. Wow. Right. So that's what it costs to do to to poison your population. And that's why this battle around the HHS budget and policies is so fractious, including the fact that the government is legally liable if the truth comes out for poisoning Americans, which means if you look at what Toby Rogers says, Toby Rogers is the guy who's really tried to cost out the price of autism.

Mhmm. So I got on to all of the HHS issues because I was an investment adviser. And what I discovered was that health care fraud was the number one cause of family bankruptcy or loss of family wealth. And and number two, in my experience, was financial fraud. So people were just losing their wealth because they were being lied to.

They were being lied to by the health care system. Hospitals? Everybody. Really? Like, legitimate health care Yes.

Organizations? Okay. Yes. And and many of those legitimate organizations really didn't know. I mean, my father was a very successful surgeon.

You know, I sort of grew up. Unfortunately, we'd say, daddy, what did you do today? And then he'd really tell us. Oh, no. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. The dinner table at our Dark.

Was was very we used to read his surgical books for fun. What kind of surgeon? He was he he had during the World War two, they had taken the University of Pennsylvania Hospital and literally picked up most of the people and the organizational structure and moved it under Stillwell to Burma. So he grew up in, or or he did his internship and residency in China, Burma doing trauma. He was a MAS unit.

Right? And when he came back, you know, because a lot of the big, improvements they make in surgery happens in wartime because they have so much, you know, so much opportunity. And he when he came back, he redesigned. He worked and redesigned how the emergency room should work all over the country. Wow.

That's amazing. And well, it was really funny because both sides of my family, all the competition, they were very competitive people on both sides. But it was like, okay. Who did the most to save civilization today? Okay.

Your grandfather did this and your father did that and, you know, and so, for example, his father had, had gotten the laws changed so they could bring penicillin to Tennessee and had introduced penicillin to Tennessee, and that had been a huge lifesaver for many people. So at the dinner tables, like your grandfather brought penicillin to Tennessee, what have you done today? So this idea that you talk about of the control grid Right. Can you explain what the control grid is? Sure.

So so let's say the way George Keenan at the end of World War two said we got 6% of the people and 50% of the resources. Mhmm. And to keep that going, we're have to we're gonna have to be really tough. We're gonna have to drop a lot of bombs. So Goldwater came along and he said, you know, we're gonna have to drop a lot of bombs and and be really tough.

And people said, no. No. No. We're good Christians. We don't wanna, you know, that's not us.

Mhmm. So Jimmy Carter came along and he shivered in front of the fireplace and said, we're gonna have to cut back. And the American people said, no. No. No.

No. We don't wanna do that. So so so then the Bush's I always say the Bush's came along and said, you know, you're all good Christians. Here's your check. Don't ask questions.

Okay? So what we've been doing is we've been subsidizing the American people with the blessings of sort of racketeering around the world in the third world and running the warfare. So when you go from a unipolar to a multipolar model, you lose the ability to extract the resources you need to keep that going. So for example, if I wanna trade my Danny dollar for, you know, labor and resources all around the world and the BRICS nations don't wanna take the Danny dollar, then I'm I'm losing the ability to subsidize the American way of life. Okay?

So I have to cut back. Mhmm. So one way to cut back so you can say, oh, well, there's a climate change emergency. We want everybody to cut back. You can try that.

Or you can, you know, throw on tariffs and that's gonna cause even more inflation. Everybody's gonna cut back. But at some point, if you're really gonna cut people back, it it's very helpful if you have complete control. So if you're the bankers and you wanna control fiscal policy and collapse the current constitution system, if you can exercise complete control with digital technology and an all digital financial system, you have complete control. So go back to the pandemic.

If we say, okay, We want you and your family to lock down, then suddenly your money won't work outside your house. You know, you can order a pizza to be delivered, but you can't leave the house. If you have an electric car, ultimately, you can turn off the electric car. And if they say, well, we mandate we want you to take the shot. It's mandated.

If you don't take it, we'll turn off your money. Right. So you're talking about complete control? And this would be utilized by spending the government money and giving people money and central and and in addition to having a centralized controlled digital This would be used by using the private and the public sector financial train tracks to exercise complete central control. So I don't know if you've ever seen there's a wonderful video that I keep showing of Augustine Parsons, the general manager of the Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland in 2020.

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And and we were chatting as we were watching this IMF panel, and I freaked. I just said, did did you see that? He said, don't worry. I got the clip. I said, that's you know, because in my world, it's impossible to send anyway, but here's what he said, and it's a fifty nine second video.

You can run it if you want. Mhmm. If you go to our website, we have a section called video shorts. And in the financial transaction freedom, we have about a hundred short videos and this is the first. He basically said, you know, with the digital technology and he was explaining central bank digital currency, CBDC.

But you you can do it privately with stablecoins. It doesn't have to be a CBDC. It can be a stablecoin. And he said, he said, we can make the rules of what you can do with your money. Right.

And we can enforce the rules of what you can do with your money. Right. So if they say, you know, Danny, you know, your health isn't what it should. You can't you can't eat pizza. Your money won't work to buy pizza.

Right. Right. Or you can't travel outside the the limits of your area code or your ZIP code. They What they your credit cards turn off if you go out there. So you can't buy gas, you can't buy food.

Right. But the the reality is with AI and software, I can make a entirely granular control system just for you, one person at a time. Right. Right. And so I can do it for you.

Broad brush. It's very specific. 8,000,000,000 and and I can collect all the data and apply my social credit system just to you. If you're good, you know, you'll get maybe you can travel a little bit more. If you're bad, you get locked out.

Maybe you can explain this to me, because I've never had anyone explain this to me before, but there was a story that came out, a couple years ago how and I forget the name of the country, but there was a country somewhere in Eastern Europe where, The United States basically offered to pay them, like, a couple billion dollars to, to mandate vaccinations and all these sort of, controls during the pandemic, and they refused to do it and they refused the money. But, basically, The United States was paying another country billions of dollars Right. For for these mandates. Right. Well, they do that all over the country and all over the world.

I don't understand. That that does not I don't understand how that works. Can you explain, like, why? What is the benefit of us giving billions of dollars to some other random country on the other side of the world for them to lock down their own people? So so there could be many possible reasons, but one is prototyping.

So, you know, this is something you're planning on doing in your own country, and you wanna see how you could get it to work in another country. And and it's a product. A lot of times, those are prototypes. Okay. So Steve, so you can find that article.

Yeah. I want me to know which country it was. Yeah. Sounds like it might have been Hungary. Oh, might have been Hungary.

Yeah. That you might be right. Yeah. So I found, it's a I don't have access to it, but it's it says US ends vaccine funds for poor countries. Not it.

No. No. It might have been it it was something that came out where the president of that country, like, made, like, a public statement and called out The United States? Well, there was one guy who called out The United States and then he had an assassination attempt. The five of the countries that refused to do the mandates in Africa Mhmm.

Have a big article about it. They they their leaders either got assassinated or were thrown out in the next election. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Steve, it might have been Hungary. Check on Hungary. But it was one of those countries right around there. So, you know, my guess is, because I I worked for several years with a group of doctors and scientists trying to understand what was happening with the injections.

Mhmm. And I absolutely believe that they were trying to install operating systems in people's bodies. Operating systems. Yeah. So This just got dark.

No. If you if you listen, there's a great clip from right at the beginning of the pandemic when the chief scientist officer at Moderna says we're installing an operating system in people's bodies. And and he, you know, he's describing something that can be used plug plug and play for future vaccines. But if you look at all the material on the Internet of bodies, you know, you're talking about putting materials in people's bodies that make them basically easier to interact with with telecommunications and and digital technology. Oh, you're talking about, like, the five g stuff and, like, how five g can connect to this stuff?

Or the big nanobots? There's a there's a whole there's a whole I've had a I've done a podcast on this before. It's it's so bizarre and out there and, like, hard to grasp, but, like It's it's not hard to grasp at all because It's just it just seems like sci fi. No. It's not sci fi at all.

It's it's not just like they're they're tagging livestock. I mean, if you one of the things that really helps you to understand what this looks like I live in a farming community in The United States, and if you know about lives if you've ever studied livestock management. No. Never. A lot of this makes a lot more sense.

Okay. You know, and they are tagging all the livestock. But this is simply a way of, you know, if you if you get a lot of these nanoparticles into the human body, you're creating the equivalent of an organic barcode. K? But I don't but was that I don't think there was actually any hard evidence that there was any nanoparticles in the system.

Recommend you we just published, Patrick Wood at Technocracy News. I was the moderator. We just published the second, the second, symposium called Omniwar, and this one is called The Battle for the Brain, and it gets into the Internet of bodies. And what here's what I believe, and I'm not a scientist, so don't ask me to explain this at all. But, if you look at all the patents and research and other work done on the Internet of bodies, you know, it is clear that that there are mysterious ingredients in the food.

Mhmm. There are mysterious ingredients in the spray. There are mysterious ingredients in the injections. And the question is what, you know, what are those for? And I don't think I think it's very intentional.

I don't think it's an accident. And I think one of the goals is, as the chief scientist officer at Moderna said, is to is to install an operating system in your body. That's pretty dark. Yes. It's very dark.

So go to the Purdue go to the Purdue engineering website to the Internet of bodies and look at the whole Internet of bodies. I'm sure you're familiar with the story of that guy Charles Lieber, who I think was a Harvard nanobiologist. He there's actually a story I just saw on Twitter this morning. He just got sent to hired by China to go work in a university in China. He got busted basically for, like, taking millions of dollars from China to send He got busted to keep him quiet is what I believe.

He got busted to keep him quiet? Quiet. Right. Explain. What do you mean by that?

So when you have a guy so Charles Lieber is one of the world's leading experts on brain machine interface. Okay? And he was working with the guys in China Mhmm. You know, in a very significant way. And he was one of the I think he was the top expert at Harvard on brain machine interface.

Right. Right. And, and, you know, once they went after him early, they went after him hard, and they put him in a process where they he had to be entirely shut up. Mhmm. And then so they authorized Operation Warp Speed, which remember is a military program.

And who did they put in charge of it? But they put the former head of research at at GSK, who is what? A brain machine interface expert. The guy who ran Operation Warp Speed that Trump appointed was a brain machine interface expert. What was his name?

Oh, it's long Head of GS, Glaxo's Head of research. Head of research. He had been head of research At GlaxoSmithKline. Wow. And and his expertise was brain machine interface.

And what's interesting, for many, many years, I've worked with Clifford Carnacom on global spraying, what's in the spray, what does it do to you. And Clifford insists, we just did a huge interview with him at the Silly Report, that the materials the biosynthetic engineered materials in the spray are exactly what's in the injections. And don't ask me about it because I can't explain it. Yeah. It's bizarre.

No. It here's the thing. If you if you are running the planet and you are a risk manager and you're worried about all sorts of risks and you can't tell people what's really going on, the question is you've gotta turn the the aircraft carrier before it hits the iceberg. Mhmm. And that may be twenty years before it hits the iceberg, and you can't get people to follow you.

And so it's very attractive to have complete control and to be able I mean, if you look at the amount of money that's spent to influence people to adopt this opinion or that opinion or keep them busy or keep them away from the power line, I mean, the biggest investment almost in this society is persuading people, you know, to believe a fake reality. And how how how specifically where does that money go specifically? Like, not just to to news organizations or, like, TV networks, but, like, do do you have any under or what is your understanding of of how money is spent to influence ideas? So so the first thing, you spend a whole world of money on education to get them to get the universities to present a certain kind of, you know, view of the world and and to promote certain things. So it starts with education.

A huge one, of course, is media. So so media is also in all the different ways you know it from news to social media is affirming and encouraging people to go certain ways. And it's not just official ways, like, oh, please go, you know, vote in the next election. Right. It's entrainment.

It's subliminal programs. There's real mind control plumbing. And you're pumping that out where they're watching sports. You're pumping that out where they're watching porn. You're pumping that out to get them to think that certain things are real, other things are not real to hit them in certain directions.

So you have you have enormous overt media and enormous covert media, right, that's affirming all those things. Now your your third big expenditure is on intelligence because you're now tracking everybody. So with AI and software, I can track every person and I can watch what they're thinking and saying and doing, And I can feedback to nudge them if I want them to go in a certain direction. So if I announce lockdowns and I want everybody to really lock down, then I persuade them this is all I mean, we persuade everybody there was a pandemic when there was no pandemic. Right?

It's pretty amazing. Yeah. It's it's we're in a world now where everyone has their own reality, unfortunately. It seems like the idea of what is true is slipping away, and it's and it's there's so many different flavors of reality, whether that be ideological, religious, political, whatever it is. It's it's everybody has just a different truth on so many on so many different levels.

It's it's almost impossible to have any consensus of reality anymore. And I I Oh, I think it's very easy. Do you? Yeah. Because if you just track the math of time and money, it's concrete.

I mean, it's Right. Doesn't lie. That's that's that's why I love you. I think that's I think that's beautiful. That's that's that's why I came to it.

I'm a little I'm a little girl in West Philadelphia, but I because of who my family was and where I went to school, in one week, I would go back and forth between all these different worlds and cultures. And I couldn't make sense of anything because everybody was lying. They were lying to themselves. They were lying to each other. I was like, I've I've been I've been, you know, I've been I I've been born into a nuthouse here.

Mhmm. And so finally, I thought I have to find a way to navigate this. And so what I came up with was the was the mathematics of time. I love math, and that's my you know, math is one of my gifts. The mathematics of time and money.

And what I discovered is if you could figure out the math of time and money, then you could figure out reality. The math of time and money when you figure out reality. Where you know, how many hours you just count up all the hours. Where are they putting their hours? Okay.

Count up all the money. Where are they putting their money? How do they spend their money? So I'll give you an example. When I was the assistant in 1984, I overheard two guys on Wall Street Billionaire types talking about how they were gonna roll out entrainment, supplemental programming on TV.

And it scared me to death, and that was it for me in TV. So I never had another TV again until the administration. I had a friend helping me decorate. I bought a big house in Washington, and she bought a TV for me without my permission. And she said, you can't work in the Bush administration unless you watch the Sunday shows.

So I had it for a little while, and then I gave it away because I hate them. And, but I because I was the FHA commissioner, I'm working with the budget for the home mortgage market. And if you're working with that and the at the time, there's a big S and L cleanup. So I'm I'm working with all the the financial system in the budget. And because we're going through the '21, we competed for appropriations with 21 other agencies, I basically had to learn the whole budget.

So I'm sitting there tracking day to day to day exactly what's happening in the budget. And then I'm watching, you know, so we're over here whacking up the money in the budget. And you get on the Sunday shows, and they're talking about what's going on, and they got this whole fantasy about what's really going on. It's got nothing to do with what's really going on. They're just like, well, yeah, yeah.

And so for a year Truman Show. Exactly. Exactly. It was The Truman Show. I'm watching.

I know exactly what's going on because I'm looking at the money, and I'm dealing with the money. And they're going, and it you know, it's entertainment. It's got nothing to do with what's going on in Charlottesville. Fascinating. So but if you follow that's why, you know, the What year was this?

That was '89 to '90. '80 '9 to '90. Yeah. Eighty nine to ninety. And that's why so so under the law so they're they're at the time, there were four mortgage insurance funds, but there are two of them or most of the money.

So under the law and the big one, the single family fund, by law the first thing I did when I got to Washington is I read all the law related to what my responsibilities. I wanna know under the law what am I responsible to do. So I read the law, and it said, that I had sole fiduciary responsibility for what was then the $320,000,000,000 mortgage insurance fund. And I was required by law to run it on a self sufficient basis. So the premiums we charge for the credit had to cover the defaults and expenses.

So I'm required to run it. So I decide, okay. I'm gonna try and get how much money are we making or losing? So I called in the budget officer. They bring in the budget, and it would have gone two thirds of the way to the ceiling with all the budget justifications.

So I'm a speed reader. I spent I read through it several times that weekend. I called the budget officer in on Monday. I said, nowhere in this budget does it say whether I'm making or losing money. He said, that's not in the budget.

I said, if I have sole fiduciary responsibility or run this on a self supporting basis, I need to know that. Right. He said, well, the accounts have that information. I said, well, give me their number. I'm gonna call them.

He said, they report to a different assistant secretary. You're not allowed to talk to them. And I said, well, that's gonna change. So, no, I had raised a lot of money for George h w Bush, and all I got was a pair of cufflinks and the accounts moved over to report to me. So I did.

I used all my poll and I got the accounts moved over to report to me. They come in the first day. We are losing $11,000,000 a day in the single family fund. So I said, look. All real estate's local.

We got 10 at the time, there were 10 federal regions. They're less now. I said, we have 10 federal regions, 80 field offices. Where are we making and losing money? He said, we don't have place based financials.

I said, we mail out checks. We have ZIP codes. I said, this is a rush. It's an emergency. Get the numbers.

Well, it turned out we were making profit in eight regions and losing everything plus more in two regions, which was, you you know, it was a black budget fraud. It was it was the Bushes and the Clintons. It was the Texas region, which included Arkansas and the Colorado region. It was just like Just it was a black hole of money just vanishing. Yeah.

It was the mortgage fraud. So you remember, we had a big the the S and L crisis in '89, and that cleanup was a lot, a tremendous amount of mortgage fraud. Anyway, so I could talk about all these guys in mortgage fraud all day long. And then and then the day before 09:11, Rumsfeld says that we have what was it? Like, $4,000,000,000,000 that was unaccounted for?

They were missing DOD was missing 4,000,000,000,000, but he said 2.3. He said it was 2.3. But it was four. And we had I was working with a reporter, and we had a huge story coming out that Friday about the whole missing money and what it meant per person. So we had calculated for each taxpayer in each state how much you were missing.

So yeah. So that was the financial coup which had started in 1990. Where did all that money go? Well, that's what I've been trying to figure out. And without the bank statements, I can't I can't you know?

So so I've tried to map out because money remember, you're too young to remember the did you ever see the old Pillsbury Doughboy commercials where they squeezed out on one and it pops out someplace else? Oh, I don't know about that one. Yeah. So you're probably too young. So so when the money started to going missing from the treasury and the federal government, the offshore haven started to just balloon.

You know? So this is going down and this is going up. And, anyway but but I have tried to unpack where the money's gone and what they've been spending it on. And and, you know, I have a lot of guesses. But What's your best guess?

I I think it's many different things. The first thing, I think you've been financing a new system. So I call it the breakaway civilization, but I think you've literally been financing a new system. And it's like when you're running a company and you you keep the old systems going and you get the new systems up and you bring the resources over steadily. And then at some point, you're ready to bring this down.

And I used to say the pandemic was the breakaways breaking back in and taking over. But but I think they've moved a lot of money out. And in theory, if you look at how much has been stolen, it's enough to run a global government on an endowment basis. It is. How much roughly total has been stolen?

So as of '19 as of 02/2015, there was 21,000,000,000,000 and undocumentable adjustments. But that's not cash. And and it could reflect money coming in, so you could be bringing money in from the war zone. So how much is net missing? You know, it's impossible to tell.

But given everything, I would be amazed if it wasn't at least that much missing. So now what I think you've been doing is you've been making enormous investments in black budget technology and infrastructure. So, you know, so I think I think you've got a huge physical infrastructure. Some of it, when you did 09:11, you were able to move a lot more black budget on budget. And so that sort of eased the pain because the problem with the black budget as of 09:11 was to get that money, you had to tell, you know, it was it it got the fraud had gotten so dysfunctional Mhmm.

And wasteful. So you you wanted to do more on budget. But, you know, whether it's it's building a new governance system and a new endowment to run it or invisible weaponry, secret weaponry, secret space program, the infrastructure underground to to platform that. I think it's all those things. One of the theories that has been bouncing around in my head from recent guests that I've had on is that military contractors have been taking money from the US government and from the Pentagon to develop futuristic weaponry, develop new new, physics alternative propulsion Absolutely.

Crafts that have some sort of alternative propulsion systems since the seventies or even actually, probably since the fifties, I think. Here's how it works. Okay. 40 do you understand the legal structure of how they did it? No.

Okay. '47, you passed the National Security Act. Okay? And that gives you the ability to set up the secret infrastructure. '49, you passed the CIA Act.

Mhmm. They literally had to kill the secretary of defense to do that. They assassinated Forrestal to get that done. We have a lot of interesting material on the Forrestal assassination on the Solarian. You should go through yeah.

You should you should learn about Forrestal and what caused that assassination and what it did to create you you literally took several sections. Wasn't he a KKK guy? Don't Okay. Not that I know of. He was a he was the president of Dillon Read.

He was a partner of Dillon Read. Okay. Okay. I thought he was in the KKK for some reason. I might be getting someone I might be thinking to someone else.

Never mind. I I don't know. I know I've never read that about first, so I really studied him, but I don't know. Okay. So, Don't worry about it, Steve.

Well, even if he was, that's not what got him killed. What got him killed was standing in the way of creating Israel and giving them the nuclear bomb. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.

And he wanted disclosure on the black budget. He was for disclosure on the black budget, and he didn't want Israel he didn't basically, he didn't want that part of the organized crime syndicate to get sovereign powers. That's so anyway, what happened was they made a deal on the 49. They got rid of Forrestal. They made a deal on the 49 act.

That created the CIA. K. And that made the CIA the most powerful banker in the world. Eisenhower put him in charge of Area 51 Secondurity. And literally, once you look at how the the exchange stabilization fund and sort of the different money aspects of the forty seven and forty nine act organized to work, you've now created this financial mechanism that combines covert violence and makes it the most powerful banker in the world.

Now not I should say on the covert side, the most powerful bank in the world is BIS. So Didn't they use I could be wrong about this, but didn't didn't, Dulles take a bunch of money from the budget to rebuild Europe after World War two to build Area 51? That's right. I don't know if he used that to build Area 51. He ran a slush fund out of the exchange stabilization fund from Sullivan Cromwell and before they got the 49 act created.

And part of that was to create this infrastructure because part of it said you can you can appropriate to all the different agencies and then claw it out secretly to give it to the intelligence agencies. Right. So they created after World War two and all the slush fund money they got from World War two, they created a mechanism to constantly replenish the covert money. But here's the big thing. When Bush came in during the Reagan years as vice president, his deal with the intelligence agencies was he gets to run or with Reagan was he gets to run the National Security Council and the intelligence agencies.

He creates an executive order signed by the president by Reagan that corporations can do highly classified work. Now let me tell you what that means. What that means is the treasury can issue an infinite number of bonds and use that money to pay corporations to do highly secret things, including just gifting them all of the black technology funded by the taxpayers and moving it onto their balance sheet and do it in a secret way that generates enormous profits in the stock market. Wow. Okay?

So now you've got a way. Now what's the number one source of campaign contributions? Companies like this. Capital gains. Capital gains.

Okay. Capital gains. I have a stock. It's trading in a multiple of 20. I give you a million dollar a year contract.

That goes up by $20,000,000. Your stock goes up. That creates capital gains for the investors and the executives who then turn around and they or their law firms make political contributions. It's a kickback system. Right.

Right. Okay. Yeah. I understand. So if you read my my book, I have an online book called Dylan Reed and the Aristocracy of Stock Profits.

Mhmm. And it was designed to explain to you how that kickback system system works. Right. Because, and the quote we have at the beginning is an old New Jersey street saying, make a law, make a business. So every time the government does something that makes stocks go up, they get a kickback of campaign contributions from that.

Right. And, of course, the taxpayers funding the whole thing. Now let's go back to corporations. Now I can transfer trillions of dollars of invaluable black technology into the corporations and fund them with taxpayers' money to own and develop it secretly and keep it away from FOIA. So you and I can put in a FOIA, and we can't find it because it's behind the corporate veil.

Right. Now now one of the fears about this is that since allegedly, since the fifties when they started working on some of this stuff is that it's gotten so advanced in these black corporate or these these black military industrial complex, aerospace corporations, whatever you wanna call them, that they've become essentially more powerful than the US military because of the technology that they have power up. They own. Now I can't say that it's more powerful than US military because they need the US military to do a lot of what they're doing. Well, essentially, the way it was described to me is that these these corporations or these organizations basically are so powerful and have such advanced technology that they have their own air force, their own millet, their own navy, everything.

And we've had senators we've had senators stand up and say this, but what I call them is a breakaway civilization. Right. They have broken away. Right. And they are so much more advanced.

Now if you look at their assets, what I would say if I could assert jurisdiction, those are our assets. Those were either gifted or stolen. They belong to us. Right. But it is it's not it's not corporations who have a lot of technology.

It is a breakaway civilization, and they literally think of themselves as a separate Mhmm. Civilization and not subject to our laws. Separate from not only United States, but separate from the world, from all all nations. From the human race. Separate from the human race.

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It's linked down below. Now back to the show. I was in a meeting with the secretary, and he got very we had called in the regional administrator. So we had 10 regional administrators. And he was very angry at the regional administrator from California because he had implemented a court decision.

The court had decided something. He had implemented it, and and the secretary was very angry at him. And he and he said to him in front of everybody, mister secretary, I had to. That's the law. And the secretary just explodes with fury.

It's just the law. It's the law. I don't have to obey the law. I report to a higher moral authority. And that's a perfect example when you're in Washington.

You have a group of people whose attitude is, look. As long as I'm doing what the beggars tell me to do, I don't have to obey the law. The laws are relevant to me. You know, I I'm I'm part of the breakaway law. You know, I have to obey them.

I don't have to obey this law. Now as far as this, quote, unquote, breakaway civilization, we have we have these private, military industrial complex, aerospace, weapons development agent companies, and we also have these banks. How connected are they? And, like, what I know you've talked about, like, space research and, even developing underground facilities, these deep underground or is it the same thing? These dumps, these deep underground military bases?

Right. They're they're So investing in all this stuff simultaneous simultaneously. That's what it appears to me to be. Okay. So and and, remember, a lot of the underground bases are public are publicly announced or known as existing.

So you know? And and there's a lot of things you would do or store underground. Just Mhmm. Any good risk manager would do it. So I don't it's a continuity of government thing to have those kind of facilities.

Right. So, you know, but I think the the my guess is the infrastructure is a lot greater than is publicly has been publicly made aware of. Like, they have full cities under there that would be livable for some you know, I don't know if you've ever watched the different videos of the truckers, but if you spend a lot of time talking to the truckers because the truckers have to deliver a lot of material into those spaces. And you'll get, you know, you'll get a lot of reports about what they've seen or heard. So that's my guess.

The videos of those salt mines? There's, like, giant salt mines over somewhere in in Poland? Are you speaking? Maybe Poland. Yeah.

And they're just enormous. They're just these caverns with, like, I would say they're a hundred feet tall on the inside. And it it looks like like New York City underneath a mountain. Really? They're insane.

And then, I mean, I would imagine it could be easily converted into some sort of underground city, but there's salt mines apparently. And there's just, like, like, lines of semi trucks driving through them. So the I'm I live half the year in The Netherlands. Mhmm. And the, you know, the power of of Northern Europe grew up on the fish.

Look at that right there. Oh, wow. Bizarre. I bet that's Poland. I don't know.

Yeah. Where's it at, Steve? Huge Salt Mine planetarium. I don't know. Click the link.

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Dracula Grave? Really? You can find the Steve. We believe in you. Grew up on the cod and fishing.

You know, a huge amount of the wealth in Nor Northern Europe came from the ocean from the fish. Right. Right. Right. But but the so I live in Friesland, and the one of the things that made free the Frieslands were amazing world travelers.

And they figured out how to get the salt from the Polish mines and salt the cod. So you could put cod in a barrel Mhmm. Salted, and it you would have animal protein that was good for ten years so you could sail anywhere in the world. Wow. Right.

Yeah. Alright. It's in Romania. Romania. Way out.

Okay. Well, that that would be consistent with Dracula's grave. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a there's a, insane photos and videos of this place that that are just mind blowing and kind of terrifying too. It reminds me of Total Recall. Yeah. Look at that.

That's wild. So, you know, I will tell you that the in my opinion, you have a corporate infrastructure which is literally out of control. Mhmm. So one of the things I used to have these fights with the defense contractors because I was required to to get the accounts when we, I still needed data and the systems were run by the big defense contractors at HUD. And they would refuse to give me the data, so I'd have these wars with them.

It's like, who really runs HUD? Is it the defense contractor, or is it the point you know, the person who's legally responsible? Right. Right. You would have these huge fights.

And then, you know, the one of the biggest problems is, like like, you were alluding to earlier is they control the government by paying by lobbying. Right? Like, they they They can control the government by killing people who don't do what they say. That's how they control the government. And lobbying.

Lobbying, you know, I mean, they're they're different layers. Mhmm. But, you know, I'll give you an example. So I published I litigated with the federal government for eleven years and then fought with the IRS. And then, anyways, eleven year shaggy don't process.

And when it was over, I didn't wanna go back into the investment world without explaining what had happened. So I wrote an online book called Dylan Reed and the aristocracy of stock profits. I've tried to publish it three times. The last time, I each time, I ran into just enormous headwinds and problems and threats. But the last time, they threatened to kill somebody in my family.

So I just What? Yeah. Yeah. Who? I I can guess where it's coming from.

I know how it was delivered, and and I know who delivered the messages. But who started it? I can guess, but I I don't know. But I I took them seriously. I thought, okay.

There's Was it delivered through somebody, like like, in person, through somebody you know? Yeah. Yeah. You know, one two were acquaintances. One was somebody I know, but it it's very carefully crafted so that the people who deliver the message don't necessarily understand what they're a part of.

But Right. Right. Right. And and I thought there was a reasonably good chance that they would do it. So I did you you never know.

And you just published this book on your website? It was already on on online. It was already online, so I just left it online. It's not censored. It's there.

Right. Right. Okay. So how how are so first of all, what is the Bank of International Settlements, and how are they tied to this breakaway civilization? So the Bank of International Settlements is a central bank of central bank.

So it the 63 largest, most important central banks in the world belong to the BIS. The top central bankers meet there regularly. They have a group called the Financial Stability Board that, defines systemically important institutions, which to me appear to essentially get some of the benefits of their sovereign immunity. And they have the power to move money and hold it on their on their balance sheet secretly. So, if there's 21,000,000,000,000 missing from the US government, in theory, you could move that 21,000,000,000,000 to the BIS and have it sit on the BIS all day long and use the BIS to move it to lots of countries who then donate to the Gates and Clinton Foundation, for example.

Wow. I'm using that as a theoretical example. See what I mean? Mhmm. But but because they have sovereign immunity, we've created since World War two a whole network of organizations around the world who have sovereign immunity.

They're above the law. So we have, you know, we have parts of the UN. We have the World Bank. We have the IMF. They have all sorts of different variations of sovereign immunity.

We have a whole bunch in Latin America. And we've created this meta structure using international treaties or using the sovereign immunity entities for all sorts of behavior and and, and economic activities that are not subject to our national laws. Essentially for running the world. Because you wanna run the world, you can't obey the laws. If you're if you're if you're the I think you've used this analogy before.

If the world is your house Right. And you're the owner of the house, there are certain things that you have to do that Right. And it it allows you to move a lot of money and a lot of data and information secretly. When we talk about these banks and the people that are running these banks, like, do we know who the the individuals are? So in my experience, the system is run through committees, consensus.

So I'll give you an example. When I was on Wall Street, a lot of the money in The United States is run around the federal budget. Okay? Because it's such a big portion. In any county in America, Forty to 50% of the income comes from the federal budget.

Mhmm. Okay? So it it really drives the economy. Okay. So the appropriations vote out, you know, sort of their plan for the next year.

And so their recommended appropriations come out from the committees. And then the big questions, the big things to be debated or figured out or questions are rolled up and sent out to the Bohemian Grove. Everybody comes out to the grove they meet, and they chew over the big things, and then they make their decisions. And then that goes back to Washington. Everybody's on vacation, and then the staff gets everything ready to vote for the budget in September, and then the new budget goes forward in October.

And and if that process breaks down and you have a real food fight, then you've got a real mess. But the big decisions are made by consensus, and you use, you know, whether it's a Bilderberg meeting or, Council of Foreign Relations? They're a little bit different. But, yeah, our executive committee of the Council on Foreign Relations. You know, you have these meetings where you get people from all different industries, all different occupations together so they can coordinate and collaborate.

And they make these decisions very much by committee or consensus process, which is why once they agree to something, everybody hates to, you know you can't bucket because, you know, we've told 20 different industries we're gonna go to the right. And so you can't just go to the left. You hiccup everybody. What can you explain to me exactly what the Bilderberg Summit is all about? So I'm not that familiar with the Bilderbergers.

I mean, I never you know, if you look at who I worked with Yeah. I mean, I worked with some people on Wall Street or in Washington or in the Bilderbergers, but it was simply a more international version. And my guess is if you look at we grabbed so much booty at the end of World War two. I think that one of the initial goals of the Bilderbergers was to manage that, you know, that sort of pot of money. I heard that Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt were the representatives in The United States for the Bilderbergs summit.

So more recently, that's possible because the tech, you know, tech is so important to build the control. Mhmm. So, and, you know, I hate to say it. We the 21,000,000,000,000 is, you know, we sort of sucked out as much money as possible and put the government on a debt trap. But if you look at what they're doing now, now they're stealing all the data, and it looks to me like they're building up to to steal the rest of the assets.

What's left? Ugh. There's, if you look at the if you have an AI and you wanna build a control grid and a social credit system, the most valuable data you need is payment data. And so taking the Social Security, the IRS, and the Treasury payment data, it's the most valuable data or some of the most valuable data in the world. Oh, wow.

Right. So that's worth it's funny. Naomi Wolf and I were trying to cover this at one point, and she said, you know, that data is worth more than a trillion dollars, and it is. And it's interesting because Musk was out raising capital for xAI and had a deal with Palantir AI at the same time. And my guess, you know, I think Palantir has an AI?

Yeah. How I didn't even know that. Well, according to published reports, XAI and Palantir had made a partnership and and when Musk was sucking all this data out. And my guess is that data is, you know, they they they sucked it into the AI on the just do it method. What do you make of of everything Elon is doing and Doge and buying x and Well, let me come around to that.

Okay. And, and I'll I'll the other thing is and and this is from a video, an interview Howard Lutnick said. He said, don't worry about the so he's the secretary of commerce, but he was a primary dealer. And he was the guy who lived next to Epstein for many years. Okay?

Mhmm. He lived next to her. Okay. So Lutnick says, don't worry about the $36,000,000,000,000 of debt because we have on The US balance sheet, we have 500,000,000,000, I'm sorry, 500,000,000,000,000 of land and mineral resources, which is true. The federal government owns a huge amount of the land in The United States.

Oh, wow. Right. And during Trump, in fact, he ordered up a geological survey that would allow basically to map a % of the mineral resources in the country. So, if you wanna plunder The US balance sheet, you know, it's worth a fortune. It it could create, you know, new kind of Rothschild and Rockefeller fortunes if you plundered it.

This is crazy stuff. No. It's not. It's just money. It's just money.

No. But here here's the thing. We don't have we have one problem in The United States. We have a secret governance system. Mhmm.

And that secret governance system has decided to change how we're governed and managed. And we're having a big disagreement because they want central control and digital technology will allow them to do that for the first time in history. And we don't want that. We wanna be free. So we're having a big debate about whether or not we're gonna go to a complete control grid or we're gonna be free.

That's the debate. And whether the, you know, the breakaways can break back in and say, okay. We're dictating to you. Now that we've stolen all your money, we're gonna dictate to you how you're gonna live. So who who is it that specifically that wants this control grid?

Is this is this just some evil group that is decentralized from the US government somehow has control over them? Or is this is this sort of just like a diaspora of good and evil that is littered throughout the entire US government? So so, you know, think of this as a dynamic discussion back and forth between the population and the people who are responsible to manage the planet. And, you know, if you if you come up through the layers of the financial system, both the bankers, the insurance, the whole thing Mhmm. And then the people who make the top governance decisions, you know, and I can only guess who they are, but I have some guesses.

You know, they are responsible for the intergenerational pools of capital, and they were responsible for risk. And they over the last fifty years, in my experience, they have been exceptionally frustrated. They find managing the general population very frustrating and scary. Mhmm. Because remember, occasionally, you have revolutions and people get guillotined.

Right? Yeah. So they're afraid my personal experience is they're very afraid of the general population because they are few and we are many. Right. Right.

And and they're risk managers, and they think in very long and what's happened is in particularly in The United States, you have a huge cycle of disrespect now between the general population and the people responsible to lead the financial system. And, and the more the criminals get away with really bad stuff, the more they hate the general population. And it's become a very ugly cycle of disrespect, you know, in in a way that didn't exist when I was a kid. So, and and that is dangerous because well, look at the great poisoning. I mean, we have the US government systematically poisoning and killing the population.

The COVID pandemic was a mass atrocity. You've killed millions or you've you've killed or disabled millions of Americans intentionally. And why do you think specifically they did? Does this have some anything to do with depopulation? It has to do so so the budget deal in 1995 broke, and and that was I I it was described to me by the top pension funds.

The president, the largest pension fund in the country, described it to me in 1997. He said, they've given up the on the country, they're moving all the money out starting in the fall. So a concerted effort was made to put the government and the retirement system on a sound financial basis. It didn't work. They decided, okay.

We're just gonna start pulling money out. That's when the financial coup started. And that is when decisions started to be made that systematically lowered life expectancy. And for from '19 from February to 02/2017, well, ever since then, I've been on every radio show or Internet show that will have me talking about the 21,000,000,000,000 missing, and that's because it's a formula. You have retirement funds.

If you won't fund them, and the political wheel made it very clear in 1995, we refuse to fund them, you only have another way to balance the budget, and that's to lower life expectancy. And we don't have to pay them? Well, if you look at the charts, literally from from when that budget deal busted, life expectancy started to fall. So here are the other 19 industrial countries, and here's The US, and it starts to go down, down, down, and then the pandemic, it drops off the cliff. And we the divergence between And it tar and the during the pandemic, the people that were most affected were were elderly or people that were, you know, already on death's door with multiple co comorbidities.

Some you know, it's a little bit more complex than that. But yes. And and the latest reports from Social Security is it's working. You know, Social Security has improved. But here's the thing.

I'm gonna be a tough guy. This is a formula. So so you either put the money in Tapering the Ponzi scheme. I've heard that. It's not a Ponzi scheme.

But if you're not gonna fully fund it, then you can lengthen retirement age or you can lower life expectancy. It's a formula. Right. And if the if the body politic refuses to do the financially responsible thing, then you got two choices and you can't get there by delaying the retirement age. That won't work politically.

So you just poison the pot you just put them on a slow kill. And that's what's happened. And you can say, oh, the bankers are bad guys. But if you saw the confirmation hearings for Kennedy's appointment Mhmm. I mean, what you saw were scores of senators Yes.

Refusing to take responsibility for a chronic epidemic among our children, which is an extinction level event. That, you know, that was not the banker sitting in the city of London. That was senators sitting in Washington refusing to take responsibility. You know, it's one thing to say to Kennedy, we don't like your plan to end the chronic epidemic, you know, of illness among our children. Here's a better plan.

But they wouldn't own it. You know? They just wanna say, mm-mm. No. It was you know, that is that is a society that will fail.

I mean, that's that if you if you've ever This is because a lot of those congressmen and senators were paid for by pharmaceutical companies. Right? There are many plausible explanations. None of them good. Right.

So they could have control files. They could be bribed. They could be mind controlled. They could be not care. They could you know, there are many possible reasons, none of which are good.

But what they're not is they're not competent to be a US Senator. Right. Totally. Right. They don't Wow.

And and if I'm the bankers and I wanna control fiscal policy, you know, I've proven on national TV that the people who run fiscal policy are not competent to run it. Because the HHS budget is is bankrupting the country. And it's not just bankrupting the country. I mean, I was an investment adviser for ten years. And the way I learned all about this is watching the health care system bankrupt families.

So that's my you know, what I'm angry about is there is no reason why our economy can't be highly prosperous and successful. But it can only be successful if the people are successful, if our children are successful, if our families are successful. That's what it takes to have a successful civilization. But how do you push back this sort of, for lack of a better term, crony capitalism that it seems to be intrinsically tied to the US government and it seems like all that matters is that? And then the people are like, the middle class is being gutted.

There's more billionaires being So here's what you do. The first thing you do is you bring transparency. So that's your business. Right? You're trying to bring transparency to what's going on.

Right? Second thing is you describe the solutions. And the real solution is when millions of us proceed to behave. Because right now, the people who are implementing all the evil doing, all the poisoning, all the control grid, the people who are implementing, you know who they are? Us.

We're we're implementing this. I I could I could walk into a room of health freedom activists, get all the retirement funds, pull together all the stocks, and show them they're financing it. They're putting they're supporting you know, we are going to work in implementing this. We are putting our money into this, and we have the power to change that overnight. If 10% of the people in the country called up their program and said, I am not financing any of this evil doing, pull my money out all these bad guys.

You know, I'm not gonna buy them. I'm not gonna support them. I'm not gonna date them. Pull our money out of the banks. No.

Pull your money shift your money to the banks that are good. You you've got a tremendous number of great banks and honest bankers in this country who would love to to diminish this. What are the good banks? So if you go to Solari, we have, we have an article called how to find a good local bank, and we have, a four part series on how to identify and find a great bank or credit union. Okay.

But it's a I think JPMorgan's not one of the good ones. So we have a very interesting document. If you do a search on Solaire for JPMorgan Chase Oh, really? We had a, a subscriber after the financial crisis. And and in my personal experience, JPMorgan was deep in the mortgage fraud at FHA and the government.

Mhmm. So she continued to bank at JPMorgan Chase. And, and I'd had I don't know if you know how the Madoff fraud worked. Yes. I'm I'm familiar.

Okay. So Madoff after the mid, nineties only had he had two businesses. He had a brokerage business and he had a, the money management, the Ponzi scheme. Mhmm. And the Ponzi scheme only had one bank account at JPMorgan Chase.

So I was interviewing Helen Chapman, who's one of the attorneys who litigated the Madoff. She'd been a Madoff victim but represented other Madoff victims. And I said to her, I said, Helen, who was the securities custodian? If JPMorgan Chase was the bank account, who was the securities custodian? And she said, there was none because he never bought any securities.

And I said, but Helen, that means JPMorgan Chase controlled the whole time. In other words, under the laws, they knew that Madoff was not buying any securities because there was no securities custodian and and the money in fact, they would run with huge balances at JPMorgan Chase according to her interview. It's Wow. Right. They they were the They got caught by it.

They were the senior partner. That's insane. Were the senior partner. So you should it's an amazing interview. Anyway, so so I had this person put together a list of every criminal and civil money penalty that JPMorgan Chase had paid from 2,006 to, I think it's 2,018.

It's up to salary. And then we had our editors go through it very, very carefully. And we found $42,000,000,000 of civil and criminal money penalties for financial, you know, activities that I would describe as, you know, they clearly knew they were defrauding people and harming people. And, you know, so my question is why is anybody if an institution would do that, now I I can make arguments where it makes sense for somebody to have their money at JPMorgan Chase for things we don't need to go into. There's all sorts of esoteric reasons.

But I would say that a majority of people who are free to move their money out of JPMorgan Chase, why don't they? Why why wouldn't you act in your convenient. The app have you ever used the app? It's great. You've got Zelle.

You can send money with Zelle to anyone super easily. So having been How do you think people have time to think about this stuff? You know? Like, normal everyday working people. So so you're saying that you would do business with a Russian mob because it's convenient?

I mean, if I knew I was doing business with a Russian mob, no. I wouldn't do that. Right. So what I'm telling you is, if if you will do business with people who who steal and defraud, then it's I wouldn't choose not to if I knew about it. Crime that pays is crime that stays.

K? So, I mean, if you look at the financial crisis, you know, we shoveled 27,000,000,000,000 of taxpayers' money into institutions. You know, so so that was a huge theft. That was a huge stay taking. Why would you ever bank with any of those institutions if you could avoid it?

Right. And there are times some people can't avoid it, so I'm not Mhmm. But but, I mean, I'll never forget being in Washington. There's some big protest and one of the guys said to me is, look, as long as they have Citibank credit cards in the back of their pocket, I don't care if they walk up and down. Why?

Because that's That's tray that's traceable. Right? They're tracking it. Well, as long as you're giving me all your data and you're giving me all your money Mhmm. And I control your money and your data.

Money and the data. Yeah. What do I care if you walk up and down? But isn't so Trump has been super this this current administration, this new administration, or at least when Trump was running, he was very pro Bitcoin. Trump was put in by the bankers to get the control grid.

The other team in the Uniparra wasn't moving fast enough. They they couldn't get the control grid. I knew it. I've never I say it will link. We just did Yeah.

A new collection of all the things Trump is doing to move the control grid. He is moving very, very fast. He it it when it comes to building so. First, he's getting the Real ID implemented very aggressively. Real ID to do a control grid, you need a very high quality precision national ID that's interoperable with all the other IDs around the world.

And he's got Christy Noem out there pushing the real ID like there's no tomorrow. So they're working and it's it's done through the states, but the feds are pushing it. So the first thing you need is a digital ID. The second thing you need is an all digital financial system. So you gotta kill cash, and you gotta make everybody interact digitally.

And if you look at what he's doing with taxes and Social Security, he's trying to make everybody you know, he's canceled pennies, but he's also canceled now. You know, normally, I pay my taxes with paper. And now he's saying, no. You gotta do everything digital for it's not this year, but next year. Really?

So he's trying to if you go through that list, I've got, like, you know, 50 different items of what he's doing. And if you look at what they're doing with the Genius Act and Stablecoin, he said no CBDCs, but Stablecoin so I don't know if you've read the Genius Act, which is the new plan for Stablecoins. Okay. A CBDC is issued would be issued by the Federal Reserve. So, presumably, the New York Fed and the Fed member banks.

Okay? Now they are owned by their members. So Citibank, JPMorgan Chase, they own as members, they own the New York Fed and, you know, basically govern it. Okay? And and and the New York Fed is the depository for the treasury and and the different banks work as agent to do those transactions.

Okay? So now under the Genius Act, what they're saying is the guys who own the New York Fed are all gonna create subsidiaries and issue stablecoin, which will be interoperable and can work with a a social credit system. Now here's the beauty of it. You know, the the New York Fed under the law has direct obligations to Congress, and Congress has jurisdiction over them. If you do it through the owners of the Fed through their private subsidiaries, you're gonna have some degree of freedom.

So it gives you more freedom. Oh my god. Yeah. So if you think this is improvement, you have another thing coming. Anyway but what they're planning to do on Stablecoin, which I have to say is a financial matter, is quite clever.

Remember the pallets of cash you sent to Iraq? Oh, yeah. Okay. This is gonna be the digital equivalent of the pallets of cash sent to Iraq because what they wanna do with stablecoins. So a stablecoin is just a bank deposit or a treasury biller bond.

So it's fully collateralized by a dollar. Mhmm. You put a dollar in, and and these stablecoins are gonna I mean, you have some stablecoins that do gold or other things, but these are gonna be dollar. Mhmm. And this is gonna create a huge market for the treasury bills and bonds.

And and you're gonna so you're gonna the bank subsidiaries will create the stablecoins that would be fully collateralized in treasury bonds or bills. But then you can send them out on Google payment and Apple payment and all the wallets around the world. And literally, you can get people from Bolivia to South Korea coming into your state and using stablecoins. So you're literally gonna tend for the global population, try and get everybody off of their local currency into stablecoins, and you're gonna pump out massive amounts of private credit to make it really attractive. So you're just gonna hand out money and and get everybody on the dollar.

And you don't think the BRICS would try to compete with this? Of course. They would. Right? Yeah.

Of course. And do you think this is something that could legitimately be implemented? And if so, how soon do you think they would start doing this? I think as soon as you pass the Genius Act, it can go very, very fast. And where are we at right now with with the the Genius Act and it getting passed?

I'm assuming it's gonna pass sometime soon. If if it doesn't pass before the session breaks, it'll pass in the fall is my guess. So it it it could you could really see the world rock. Now our problem in America Is Trump aware of all this stuff? Or what do you think what do you think his what is his motive in all of this?

Or or not in his motive, but he is he basically a useful idiot here? So I don't I don't know Trump. I lived in New York for eleven years, and and the PR firm we use was did his business too. Everything I know about Trump, I know from Howard Rubenstein and company. Anyway but, you know, I think Trump I think Trump is in a box.

And and, you know, and and all I see I I have to judge people by what they're doing and what it looks to me like Trump and and Musk are implementing the control grid at high speed. And and don't believe me. Go look at that list because what you have to say is, okay. To do a control grid, we need a digital ID implemented that's very high quality, high precise. Check the box.

We need an all digital financial system. Check the box. You know, we need a way of doing interoperable money. Check the box. If you look at what Doge is doing, we need a social credit system.

Check the box. Wait. What do you mean by that? What Doge is doing? Doge is from what it looks like to me, and I'm basing my assessment of what I know from Doge includes you know, I read the Financial Times.

I need to read The Wall Street Journal. I need to read Wired. Wired has done a very thorough job of trying to document what's happening in the systems. Mhmm. And I think, basically, what they've done is they've taken so so if I wanted to stop fraud in the US government, I would say there's 20,000,000,000,000 missing from DOD, there's a trillion missing from HUD.

I'm gonna gonna go in, figure out where it went, get it back. Right. That's not what they did. If you said to me, I wanna build a social credit system that can be used to enforce control against the American people and basically lock them down with both enforcement and social credit, I would go get the Social Security data, the IRS data, and the treasury payment data, and that's exactly what they did. And I would privatize it.

I would just take it and put it in private AI with XAI and Palantir AI. And and if Palantir still has the contracts with Treasury and the IRS to enforce, you got everybody. And you add the God. Kennedy's aggregating the health care data. You put it with the health care data.

Now they've been, Danny, they've been aggregating this kind of data. I used to call it the database. So they've been aggregating this kind of powerful data since the nineties. So I don't think this is all new. So for example, you IRS data, health care data, and combining it all together into one system with combined with AI.

Right. But I think this time, the government has done the federal government has generally done a pretty good job of siloing the data to protect privacy laws for many applications. But I think this unsilos everything and moves it private and puts it on an out of control basis is my guess as to what's probably happened. Now this is conjecture. Remember?

But if I wanted to build a control grid, that's exactly what I would do. Wow. Let's take a quick break. Okay. I got to use the restroom.

We'll be right back. I'm curious, about Joseph Pharrell Mhmm. And, you know, what you've what you know about him, your connection to him. So, you know, I've worked with him for years. We're very close.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. He's How did you guys meet? Are you back upstate?

Yeah. We're we're back. Okay. Okay. So I I met Joseph by reading his books.

I started reading his books, and I just concluded he was a great scholar. It never occurred to me that I could get to know him. And then I met him, and we started to work together. And every quarter, we do a five to ten hour recording called news, trends, and stories. It's basically going through what happened over the last quarter of the last year.

We do for a year. And we look at everything that's going on on a very integrated basis. So we go through the top. We'll define the top 10 to 15 stories, and then we go through something called unanswered questions. Mhmm.

And I'm we're both great believers in framing questions. If you don't have the intelligence you need to know to know for sure what's going on Mhmm. You can still define questions and and and use those questions to learn more and more and more and get to the point where you know more. So and we have a section called unanswered questions and then one called inspiration. And we spend five to we just finished a ten hour recording.

Really? Yeah. The the number one story was three hours. It was the Trump the First Seventy Days. So so my understanding for people who don't know who he is, my, shallow understanding of Joseph, his his background, is he's published 10 books on how there is this this breakaway civilization of Nazi origin.

So Joseph the thing you have to understand about Joseph is Joseph is a great scholar. Mhmm. He is a scholar. He has his PhD from Oxford. He studied patristics and ancient Christian theology, and he intended to have a very serious academic career.

And he proceeded into academia after having his doctorate. He grew up in South Dakota Mhmm. And walked smack into the fact that the American academic institutions were all not interested in serious scholarship and were headed the wrong way. And he literally ended up at one point as a working in a casino as a dealer. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Trying to support himself. So then he just started writing books about, you know, sort of, what's going on. And he focused on, you know so, again, we've been talking about the breakaway civilist. You know, who's really wanting things and why aren't they doing what what And he'll go way back in history.

He'll go back a thousand, two thousand years. The Venetians have the Venetians and the Venetian model rolled into the central banking model or how did the Nazis roll into the breakaway civilization. He does a lot on the secret space program. Mhmm. And he's absolutely brilliant.

And what happened to me was I was an investment adviser, and Joseph was the only when when I tried to explain to the people who were doing shows related to the stock market and the financial system, they couldn't incorporate the black budget. And the covert side of the economy was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Mhmm. And you couldn't explain what was happening in the financial system by using the official reality. And so what I discovered is even though Joseph's expertise is patristics and theology and, you know, ancient history and all these other things.

Mhmm. He was better on the financial system than the financial guys because he could integrate all the information related to the secret governance system and science. He's very good on science. And so so he and I work close more and more closely together. And he's had a very profound impact on me because one of the things he taught me was we have to we can't save the government necessarily, but we can save the culture.

And when he said that, I had no idea, Danny, what that meant. It's like, I'm an investment banker. How do you save a culture? You know? I don't know what to do.

And and he really got me to understand the power of each one of us. You know, I knew about this financially, but each one of us in our personal lives, you know, building the culture that we wanna live in and and doing it with all of our time and money. And, anyway so so we've collaborated both on the cultural issues as well as the geopolitics and news. And I don't know any any person. So he he was also worried as I was about the plunder we're seeing in the in the government.

And and, you know, we've always known as these guys plundered all around the world that they said they were gonna come back and plunder North America. So he just published a book on reconstruction after the civil war because he wanted to warn people, this is what plunder looks like. Okay. So anyway. But he's absolutely brilliant.

And if you look at the content that you've covered on your podcast, there's there's no topic that you've talked about that he's not Right. You know, has something he he has something fascinating to say about anything. The other thing I did with Joseph that was just a blast, and remember, we're we're constantly in cahoots, is, I crowdfunded Solari crowdfunded a digital organ for him. A digital organ? I was I was at his house one day and I said, Joseph, you're, you know, you're not yourself.

And he said, you know, I just dealing with the content we deal with. It's depressing. And I said, well, what do you do for fun? He said, I'd love to play the organ. He plays the organ.

And I said, well, why don't you go play the organ? He said, I can't because all the churches, the insurance companies won't let other people use it now. So the churches won't let me play their organs. And I said, well, how much does it cost to buy an organ? And he said, well, you can get a digital organ.

And I said, okay. Well, I I'm gonna we're gonna do a crowdfund for a digital organ. And it was during the campaign in 02/2016, and literally, there are about 200 people in the Solarium Network who crowdfunded a digital organ for for Joseph. And it was like a whole process. We went through three phases.

We had luncheons and meetings, and it became like a little cult. You know what I mean? It's like, you guys have an election. We're going to crowdfund and learn all about organ music. And it was, so now I listen to a lot of organ music, and I travel around Europe going to great organ concerts.

So I'm now I'm really into it. Oh, that's great. Yeah. It is great. It's it's really you know, if you've ever been in a beautiful cathedral with organ music, it's like an electromagnetic healing.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's really amazing. I bet. I can I can never I've never experienced it, but I can imagine?

Oh, you have to take your whole family, go to Chartres, go to Mont Saint Michel when there's a great organ concert. It's Isn't he a, like, a Orthodox priest or something? He's Russian Orthodox. He's Russian Orthodox. Very devout and very you know, he he takes his theology seriously.

So I'm always getting yelled at because I'm not I'm a I'm a, you know, I'm Christian, but I'm not Russian Orthodox. Yeah. That's interesting. So so his so he ultimately has been writing about these breakaway civilizations forever. Years.

Yeah. For years. Yeah. He's been on it from the beginning. Yeah.

And his his theory that these are somehow they come from the Nazis or something like this? So so take it back to, you know about Admiral Byrd after World War two. Remind me. Okay. So admiral Byrd, took a force of the a navy naval force down to Antarctica.

Okay. And, Just operation high jump? Yes. Okay. And came back very quickly having lost, I think, ships and men or something.

But whatever happened down there, we got whooped. And, and so the question has been since then, you know, because the Nazis were clearly down there, you know, during World War two. But, you know, so and the Nazis never if you look at the surrender according to Joseph, the Nazis never surrendered. The German government surrendered, but the Nazis never surrendered. And and we know Dulles was in Switzerland the whole time laundering money back and forth.

Right. And the rat lines got a lot of money out. And so and we brought we brought 4,000 plus scientists, Nazi scientists, into the national security state. Well, some people are, a a guy who's been on the show before, he's a a philosopher and a historian on this stuff, Jason Giorgiani, was explained to me how essentially Dulles and the national security state funded the Nazis. Yeah.

So there's a wonderful book. I don't know if you've read of Charles Hickam, Trading with the Enemies. Mhmm. And he literally describes people stopping, you know, ball bearing orders going to the US military so that they could go to Germany to keep the tanks going. So you literally had a meta structure, whether it's Dulles in Switzerland moving money back and forth Mhmm.

Or literally the American industrial establishment helping keep the German tax going. So, you know, you literally had a whole corporate infrastructure that was on both sides of the of the fight. So I'm curious. So so this breakaway civilization we've been talking about of bankers, central bankers, and, private military contractors, what is there some sort of cohesive ideology that they that they, entertain? Not that I know of.

So, you know, and I think that is one of the reasons I think they're gonna fail because they don't you know, I have seen in different sections or spots, a culture or a theology or a philosophy, but but I've never seen in the overarching. And and now what you've seen is you've seen groups, you know, you see some groups who are just, you know, it's just it's just mafia. It's just crime. So, you know, I I would say culturally, the reason the unipolar model failed was the culture failed. For The United States?

For The United States. But if you look at what the the groups who seem to be have power positions globally, I I think their culture will fail. I don't think any I don't think any of the world's superpowers have any sort of cohesive ideology. Do they? I don't think China does.

China? I think China does, but but it's weakened tremendously. And, Maybe Russia is more so. Russia probably has the best shot of anybody. And it's funny.

The Russians tried to recruit me in 02/2005. Oh, yeah? And they had a whole speech about how they were building a great culture. And and if you look at everything they said or the fellow who was trying to recruit me said and what they're doing, you know, they seem to be. It seems what he said seems to match what they're doing.

Why did they try to recruit you? Well, I have a theory. I can't you know, I know what happens, but but I don't you know, you never know what Totally. Okay. So so, so I got the I won't bore you.

I was at conference and outside of the country, and and I got a very impressive, guy who apparently was advising Putin. And he did a great job of trying to recruit me, and I just kept saying to him, nobody likes a traitor. You know? That's you have to, you know, you have to dance with the guy he came to the party with, and he said, they'll never trust you. They'll never let you back.

I said, I know, but I don't care. You know? I'm not. I'm an American. So you can't you can't change that.

And this is when you were working for who? This is 02/2005 before I'd settled the litigation. And I went home. I was working in Montana on a food project. So I'm in a ranch in Montana.

I got home and I said, something's wrong. Something's really wrong. And they had tried to force me to settle, and I wouldn't. And the negotiation was just you know, I was like, you are gonna pay me the money you owe me, and I'm not gonna settle it till you give me the money. And it it got really mean.

Mhmm. And they had pushed and pushed. It got mean and mean. And then and I think they really wanted to settle because they wanted to they knew they were gonna bring the mortgage bubble down. And I got home, and I said, something's wrong.

There's something I'm missing here. So I got online and researched, and I discovered that Russia and their wealth funds were the the number two holder in the world of US mortgage securities. What? Yeah. And I said, that was Fannie and Freddie who were trying to get me out of town.

That wasn't that wasn't the Russians. That was Freddie and Fannie. And it was right after that that they finally settled. They paid me the money. Wow.

Right. And I That's crazy. Well, things you know, here's the thing. It's not the world's you know, when you look at things through money, things look very different than they do if you're right. Yes.

So I I think that was more objective way of measuring all of the crazy stuff that you read about or hear about. Right. So I I think it was just a way of getting me out of town and because then they wouldn't have to pay me the money if I was a traitor. No. Really.

Right. No. It makes total sense. Right. It makes total sense.

You know, some of the craziest stories I've ever I've ever heard about, like, people being followed or spied on or intimidated have been people have suggested that the this is not the US government that's doing this. These are contractors that are doing these are private private organizations. A lot of the people who were following me, you know, they're funded by the US government, but they have contractors. But then the contractors have what I call stringers. You know, people they just pay daily.

It's gig work. Enforcers. No. It's just gig work. Oh, okay.

You you get an assignment on your smartphone that tells you to follow this person around for the day or something. But it's it's they're gig workers, and a lot of them are stringers. You know, they've been, you know, they're like drug addicts or you know, and they're just making gig money. Oh, really? Yeah.

So I had the whole, you know, I had the whole portfolio all the way from, you know, a real government employee to a government contractor to stringers. So, yeah, I've dealt with them all. Again, going back to this this idea of of, this breakaway civilization, some of the stuff that, Farrell has talked about. Is there what what is, they have ideas about genealogy and eugenics, and a lot of them are eugenicists and believe in this idea of this master race. So I can only tell you what I personally experienced.

Mhmm. But they do believe in bloodlines, and the notion of bloodlines is very serious and real. And they do believe, you know, just like they believe in breeding racehorses or champion cattle Mhmm. They do believe that some people are genetically superior to other people. Right.

And that's part of the bloodlines. And I don't know a lot about I only know what I've experienced, but I don't know a lot about it. What I do know is, you know, one of the big unanswered questions that I have is how much have they been doing genetic engineering of children all along? So, and I suspect they probably happen. So you see saw the movie Hannah.

Right? I don't think so. Oh, see the movie Hannah. It's all in the movies. You know?

It's I remember in America, fact is fiction. Fiction. Well, you see I know you talked about the, the the novel the science fiction novel, Three Body Problem. I heard you talk about that. Right.

Which is basically the idea of this, alien this alien civilization coming here from another star system that has, like, three suns and they can't survive. And somebody contacted them somehow and, like, let them know that we have a planet here and they're on their way here and they're trying to stifle all scientific innovation on planet Earth. And so we don't so by the time they get here in, like, four hundred and fifty years, we can't develop technologically to be able to fight them off. Right. So one of the things I have you ever read, Rings of Saturn?

No. Norbergland. Oh, that's a book you should read. I can send it to you. Okay.

It's in when I first tried to buy, it was $2,000. So somebody sent it to me. Holy crap. No. I think I think, you know, if you if you can't get it, I I'll send you the PDF.

Yeah. But Berglund was I think he was at I can't remember if I think it was NASA. He was an engineer. Mhmm. And and when Voyager passed Saturn in 1980, they saw they call it the thing in the ring.

They saw what they thought was like a 70 mile long plasma spaceship docked in the rings, and the theory was that it was getting energy from the ring. And that's when the mortgage fraud and the financial fraud exploded. And one of my hypotheses is, you know, did they suddenly say we need as much money as possible to come up to that level of civilization? Because the theory, sort of the history of a more advanced technological more technologically advanced civilization, meaning less Mhmm. So it never works out well for the less.

Yeah. So it's the same in three buddy problem. Crash course, how do we get up here? And one theory on the breakaways is, okay. That's a crash course to get us up to deal with the people who control the thing in the ring.

I I don't know if it's true. But if you read Popular Mechanics, they say the camera on Voyager magically shut down and, you know, it's complete. Anyway but if you read ring springs of Saturn, it's very Oh, wow. Yeah. And you believe that, that we have some sort of alternative source of free energy that we've already figured out or that somebody's already figured out and they're keeping it they're keeping it secret from the So we have a subsidiary in The Netherlands, Solaire Europa.

So I have a Dutch partner, and it's $50.50, you know, myself and my Dutch partner. And that group, they do all our audio videos, extraordinary people. Mhmm. I met them because during from 02/2010 to now, they've been doing conferences on breakthrough energy and the secret space program. And their breakthrough energy group is called Global BEM.

It's up on the Internet. You can see all their presentations. But Global who? BEM, b e m. Okay.

Breakthrough Energy Movement is what it stands for. And, you know, they have a website and they publish all this stuff, and I participated in some of the conferences. But they've been gathering breakthrough energy inventors from all over the world regularly to talk about what's possible. I also have I have two companies. One is Solari Report and the other is Solari Screens.

I do an investment screen. And the money manager one of the money managers we work with on Solari Screens, we have a fund, and he's been an investor for many, many years in a breakthrough energy company. So and, occasionally, I'll talk to him about it. Now I'm one of those people science goes in one ear. So you don't wanna ask me about breakthrough energy, but, you know, it's all available up on the Internet.

And if you know the story of Tesla, you know, on down to the current, there's lots of documentation and evidence that we have a lot of low cost forms of energy available. Well, that's the crazy, sort of paradox with the idea of, you know, if they're building these which we know they're building these, you know, giant underground cities and military bases and, you know, underground superhighways for people to for some sort of government to be able to run and for these people to survive in some sort of nuclear war event or something like this that, you know, eventually, the diesel power that they're using to run those is gonna run out of gas or run out of fuel somehow, and they're not gonna be able to power those underground bases. You know, I have no idea how they're powering it, but but it seems to me, you know, they're doing it whether it's nuclear energy or breakthrough energy. And also, you know, if you look at the people what they've said, you know, once you can get solar farms up in the suborbital platform and shoot the energy down here, there's also all sorts of ideas about how you can If you can dramatically lower the cost of energy, that would make you wanna have complete control.

If if you're running the planet, you would wanna have complete control because if everybody gets breakthrough energy on an out of control basis, you've got no way to control them. Right? Yeah. And another crazy thing that I learned recently was that the, the Manhattan Project Mhmm. Is now the Department of Energy.

Like, they changed their names a bunch of times. And now they're the Department of Energy who is the one Really? During the Obama years, Obama passed the law, that they were gonna ban incandescent light bulbs, and now we're on these LED light lights that are much more low energy, blue light spectrum Right. Which is the same stuff you get from all these smart devices that, like, hijack your dopamine system and all this crazy stuff. It's all part of the great poisoning.

Right. Right. So, all I could one of the my favorite Solaire reports we ever did was with an attorney named Amy Benjamin. Mhmm. And do you know who Lawrence Wilkerson was?

He was chief of staff to Colin Powell when Colin Powell was secretary of state during the Iraq war thing. Anyway, And sometimes you'll see interviews with him as colonel Wilkerson. He was worked over for the joint chiefs at, DOD when Powell was there and then went over to state with him. Anyway but, Wilkerson called me and he said he said, I just did a peer review. He he was a professor in, Virginia.

Mhmm. He said, I just did a peer review on secrecy, a journal article on secrecy, and he says it's the best thing I've ever seen. He said, you're gonna love it, but I can't tell you who wrote it, and I can't give it to you until it's approved. And he said, as soon as it's approved, I'm gonna send it to you, and you wanna jump on this. So I did.

It was written by Amy Benjamin. She used to work at the Department of Justice. Mhmm. And she did an interview on how all these things have been engineered and kept secret. Because when you realize that there's been this whole parallel universe going on and you didn't know it Right.

It's like, how could this go on and may not know it? Right. And and so part of what people have to grapple with is how could this be happening and may not know. And Amy does an absolutely fabulous job of explaining how this was all engineered. And you have literally you know, if I was to make a balance sheet of The United States, I will tell you more than half the economy is black and secret.

You know? And so this thing is More than half. Yes. It's been if you look at the organized crime money and the black money, it's been getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger our whole life. And it's now you know?

And the way I got into all these topics because when I tell you I had no interest in underground basis, I was just looking for the money. It's like, where is the 21,000,000,000,000? Right. Where is it going? And and I just kept looking for the money.

And what I discovered was this huge secret economy. And it it was really funny. For many, many years, I had so many wars with the financial guys because they would say the dollar's gonna collapse. And I said, no. It's not.

It's not gonna collapse because it's backed up by invisible weaponry, you know, that that makes sure it doesn't collapse. And it's not gonna collapse because when you steal 21,000,000,000,000, you got lots of money. There's no reason to collapse. You know, you're collapsing the people you're stealing it from, but you're, you know, you're replete. Okay?

You're not gonna collapse. You know, the reason they're doing it is so they, you know, they're they have no reason. They're resource rich. They're not gonna collapse. So it was really sort of I'll never forget.

There's a famous show I did with Greg Hunter who's sort of an ally of mine who I very much you know, we have a very good friendship. And Greg was screaming at me. He said, I've had 30 of the most important financial people on this year, and they all say the dollar's gonna collapse. You have to be wrong. I said, Greg, I'm right.

The dollar is gonna go up. It's gonna go up strongly. And because I I'm looking at all the stolen money. Right. And and so he says, finally, I said, I'll bet you a dollar.

He said, you have to be wrong. Every financial guy in the world, all these top guys are saying it's gonna I said, it's not gonna collapse. It's gonna go up. And he bet a dollar, and I made him pay me because it it was up 12% by the end of the year. I mean, it's a big move.

And and and and it was Farrell. It was thanks to Farrell that I was working with that I could really and I was working with some money managers too. But, you know, you have to if you're gonna look at the economy, you have to look at the whole thing. And if the secret part is as big as the overt part, you have to look at it on an integrated basis Yeah. Which is hard because it's hard to get reliable intelligence as you know.

Yes. But that's where the unanswered question comes in, and you have to just frame it. Now how does, when it goes coming back to energy, solving the energy problem, how how does this idea of depopulation solve that? Well, here's the thing. If you look at the control grid Mhmm.

It's very there there are two things that are unbelievably environmentally damaging. K? You have a a global population of 8,000,000,000 people. Mhmm. If they all want to come up to a level of per capita spending and mineral and other resource uses as the West Mhmm.

Enormous environmental pressure. Where are you gonna get all the minerals to build those roads, have that many cars Yeah. Etcetera. Okay? So you're talking about enormous environmental pressure.

That's number one. Number two, if you can institute breakthrough energy, then they're all gonna wanna have 10 kids. Right? Yeah. More environmental.

Lifespan is gonna Right. Get longer. So you solve that by control grid, but the thing that is the most energy wasteful of all is the control grid. Bitcoin, you know, three years ago was using more energy than Switzerland. Right?

Really? Yeah. In 2023, it was using, like, a 40% of all the energy used by The Netherlands. Right? It well, but you you look at the data centers.

I mean, just Bloomberg had an article two months ago. If you look at the data center's plan for Texas, they need 30 new nuclear plants. 30. 30. By 2030 is what the article said.

30 new nuclear plants. And China's building nuclear plants, you know, right and left. So so the energy this much data and managing and keeping data because they're talking about putting sensors throughout the forests. You know, you've got Internet of bodies, Internet of forests, Internet of, you know, you're talking about digitizing everything and collecting and managing the data using AI. It's it's an the energy is enormous.

I had this gentleman on here a couple weeks ago who, his first day on the job working for the NSA was 09:11. And he was explaining, the sentiment and the the sort of, the the vibe at the office that day. And he said that everyone was very optimistic about the future of the CIA now that they were gonna be able to just gather data from people in in heaps. Right. And now they're building these giant facilities out in the in, like, Nevada and the Mid and, New Mexico that are gonna be these math you know, just to store just all this information and all this data collected by the American people.

So I called the Patriot Act the concentration and control of cash flow act of 02/2001, and, it moved a lot of the black budget stuff on budget. But there you know, so DOD at that point was missing 4,000,000,000,000, but nobody cared. Suddenly, they got a $48,000,000,000 increase the next year, and and everybody was spending money. Mhmm. There was a Washington Post publication, I think it was in 02/2012 '10 or '12, called Top Secret America.

And one of the journalists sat down and documented every national security installation or building that they could find that was built from the Patriot Act on. Mhmm. And it's just you just wouldn't believe it. It's unbelievable. I mean, the waste is beyond imagination.

I think there's a quote from Kissinger where he said at one point, humans will eventually become useless eaters. He's an idiot. Kissinger was always and I knew him in New York because I used to I was part of the Republican committee there, Jonathan Bush, the brothers. Jonathan was a good friend of mine, and I used to help Jonathan raise money. And so Kissinger would be one of my favorite days in my life.

I would frequent. So I'm an investment banker on Wall Street. I'm making a Yeah. Boatload of money. I'm having a great life.

And I had a restaurant that I loved, and they had one table that was a banquette that was, like, the best table in the house. Mhmm. And I would always go there, and that was my table. And and we would always confirm our reservations three times just to make sure there's no problem. And and I had dealt a lot with Kissinger at some of the Republican luncheons.

And Kissinger is you know, he he can be he he could be the most narcissistic person on the planet. It was unbelievable. Anyway, so I'm standing in line right behind Kissinger, and Kissinger tells the maitre d', who's looking at me behind him, that he wants that table. And she says, I'm sorry, sir. That's reserved.

I can't give it to you. And he's furious. He's just like, I I'm Henry Kissinger. And I went she she said, I'm sorry, sir. I can't give you that table.

Anyway, so I'm with a client, my client. And so he's mad, and she goes off and finally sits in some place, but he's steaming. Mhmm. And she says, miss Fitz, your table's ready, and takes me. And my client's looking at me like, what the fuck are you?

And Kissinger across the room is like, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. You know? And I'm laughing my head off because it was just like Oh my god.

Okay, Henry. The That is hilarious. Won this one. My client was a female. So Henry was really pissed.

Wow. Right? It was pretty funny. That was a great day. Got it.

That's that's fucking hilarious. He said he was a you know, there's a story about Kissinger. I don't know if it's true that that he's finally taken into the intersect. I mean, he's given the books of all the classified information that the military knows about what's really going on. And it totally changed him because he was like, okay.

We can't tell anybody. Really? Yeah. So I always imagine, like, what that would be like to have that information in your head. Well, I just I just affect you?

I I don't know. You know, I've tried I have tried. If you look at all the paranormal phenomena on this planet, I've tried to understand it and figure it out. Mhmm. And I can't figure it out.

Mhmm. You know, but I've been through most of the material. Farrell and I did a great two hour interview called who is mister global? Mhmm. And we went through every different hypothesis.

What do you mean? Can you define mister global? It's the committee that runs the world. So there's a committee at the top that makes all the big decisions. It's and and my nickname for it is mister Global.

So so the question is, who is mister Global and why is mister Global doing what he's doing? Because I you know, when I look at a situation, I like to put myself in somebody else's shoes. Like, if I was Danny and I was doing this, what would it look like from my point of view? And so I wanna put myself in mister why is mister Global doing this? You know, why is Yeah.

What's mister Global's point of view? So, anyway, so Joseph and I went through and did who is mister Global and why is he doing what he's doing. So we went through all the theories, but my favorite some of my favorite comments on the Internet is people say they'll say, well, she worked at the White House and, you know, she knows, so she's not telling us. It's like, no. Everybody at the White House is not sure.

Who who who's your best guest of who mister Global is? I think you have intergenerational pools of capital. And right now, they are over influenced by a cult. So I yes. So I think you have inter interdimensional intelligence, which is operating demonic intelligence.

Interdimensional demonic intelligence. Yeah. Wow. Yep. So I think this thing about good and evil is real.

And and they're the I can't find it anymore. I found it once. They were in the thirties, a British physicist got up and said, you know, we are we are being manipulated, but from other dimensions by intelligent beings from other dimensions. So I I think, you know, if you if you study Christianity and you read the bible, you're dealing with both divine intelligence and demonic intelligence. And I think too much of the leadership has gotten deeply involved in the occult and demonic kinds of intelligence.

Wow. So I just read a book, and I have no idea. So I've I've I've tried to find every theory to explain the paranormal stuff. So I'm not telling you this is true, but I just finished reading a book called Final Event by Nick Redfern. I don't know if you've ever read it.

Mhmm. And he describes it's a it's an it's a exploration of a group of military intelligence in The United States called the Collins Elite. Oh, yeah. I've heard about the Collins Elite. Yeah.

And and they came to believe that the that the ET phenomena was a demonic phenomena. It was not people from another planet. It was it was demonic intelligence. Biblical stuff. Right.

Right. And one of the things he discovered was that or the Collins elite apparently discovered is in many sort of ET, abduction events. If you called on Jesus Christ, it would stop. What? Yeah.

Yeah. That's that's what he reported. And it he strikes me. I don't know anything about him, but it struck me as as someone who was trying to do a faithful job of simply reporting what they found. You know, there's a a lot of folks in the intelligence community that publicly state how they believe that the whole UFO phenomena is, like, this biblical thing.

How it's angels and demons, and these, things could be angelic entities and, you know, like, literal, like, ground like, legitimate people in the intelligence community, whether they're still active or retired or whatever, that have been on podcasts that that state they've been using. I am sure that all of that stuff is happening. So I think we are dealing with demonic and and angelic forces in our world, and that's interdimensional intelligence. So the bible calls it, you know, demons and angels. Other people call it fifth dimension or whatever, but I think we're absolutely and I would tell you what I think is the most important thing to understand about the universe.

So write this down. This is my favorite. Mhmm. My favorite new book is A New Science of Heaven by Robert Temple. Oh, yeah.

99% of the material in the universe is plasma. Our universe is made up of plasma. And I used to hear that David Bohm said this and other physicists as well, but Temple's really documented and nailed it, and I'm sure he's right. Plasma is alive and it's intelligent. And that means life is alive and intelligent.

Plasma or dark matter? Plasma. Plasma. Plasma. But, you know, let me make it simple.

The universe is alive and intelligent. Sure. And we share intelligence with all life. You know? So in the Lord of the Rings, when the trees show up to help, that's real.

Right. So so life is alive. And the notion that you can take digital technology and control it centrally, once you understand that, is so ridiculous. Only only a demonic intelligence would come up with that plan. Right?

Have you, noticed this recent phenomena of and there's been articles written about it. Essentially, a lot of big shots in Silicon Valley are mapping Christianity now onto everything that's going on in Silicon Valley. There's a church, a new church in Silicon Valley that everyone's going to. Peter Thiel and, the head of this company called y Combinator are, you know, Peter Thiel is, you know, famous billionaire, gay Christian. And, the guy from Y Combinator is a big, devout Christian, and they're holding these big conferences.

And, you know, all these folks in Silicon Valley are seem to be now converting to Christianity and going to church. And, it's just really interesting to me, you know, because Christian because Silicon Valley is, you know, historically known for being, like, anti religion. Right? Like, it's it's not been a typical, religious, part of the world in history. These people are, you know, a lot a lot of people developing tech and developing, you know, these social media platforms, transhumanism and, I know nothing I know nothing about it.

Yeah. Yeah. There's been a lot of articles. There was an article in the New York Times that came out, I think, The New Yorker. And it's it's it's really interesting to me that somebody like Peter Thiel would be in you know, somebody who's, you know, very much tied up in, the military industrial complex, the intelligence community.

There is, a nonalignment between the teachings of Jesus Christ and what Peter Thiel and his companies are doing. Yeah. So But I I I it makes me wonder, though, why somebody like Peter Thiel would be so invested in promoting Christianity in Silicon Valley. I don't know. I don't know.

I would need to understand a lot more. I wonder if it I I wonder if it has something to do with trying to bolster Christianity in The United States or sort of or sort of revive Christianity in in some sort of a national security aspect? Well, here's the problem. The problem is that there has been so much financial fraud and corruption that you have a real breakdown in productivity in the general population. And so, you know, there there is a vested interest if you don't wanna depopulate everybody and getting everybody to be productive, and they're not gonna be productive unless they believe in morals and have morals.

So, I mean, our problem the reason the unipolar model failed, in my opinion, is we're not agreement capable. And and the leadership is not agreement capable, but now the message is population. You don't need to be agreement capable. Mhmm. And when a complex society depends on the rule of law, at least the appearance of the rule of law, you take away the ability to be agreement capable and the society fails.

Yeah. I mean, if you look at other countries and, you know, if you look at Russia and you see, you know, they have sort of this cohesive, Orthodox Catholic religion. If you look at Middle Eastern comp you know, countries, they are so religious and extremely religious to the point where they're willing to strap a bomb to their chest and die for their religion. We are, we are the opposite of that. We are not there's no sort of, there's no sort of general religion or ideology or belief that that ties us together in that aspect.

So one of the questions I would ask I'm trying to remember. I'm I'm I have to look up and learn how to pronounce this name. Moe, g a w d a t. He's Egyptian. He was the chief business officer at Google.

Do you know him? Mm-mm. He wrote the book Unstressable or Happy. He discovered AI when he was at Google. See.

Yeah. There he is. Okay. Yeah. Wonderful, wonderful man.

She so he's an engineer. He was the chief, business officer at Google, and then he discovered and worked with AI and his his immediate his immediate reaction was to quit and completely change his life. And one of the things he said, is if you look at how quickly the IQ of AI is growing Yeah. And how far as a processor it is surpassing us, you realize we better hope that it's learning it's learning a moral culture from us, that we're teaching it morality. Because if we don't, we're in real trouble.

And, and I think dealing you know, his reaction to AI has been that, which I've seen from others, which is to say, the most important thing is not my smarts. It's my values. And I've gotta revisit and invest in rebuilding my values. Yeah. Well, like, going back to, like, the theme of this conversation, morality is something that you can see, like, it's very much tied to culture and The United States, the population of The United States, the citizens of The United States.

But when it comes to this decentralize this this sort of breakaway government or whatever you wanna call it, It's almost like they can only exist without that. If you have other countries that are willing to like, I've I've had multiple people on the show who have been a part of various intelligence or have been a part of the United States intelligence community for a long time and have dealt with other intelligence communities of of other countries around the world, whether it be, Russia, Soviet Union, or, Israel. And, it seems to be at least within the you know, not saying the intelligence community is this detached, breakaway civilization, but the only way to get things done in this underworld of intelligence is to bypass morals. You know? It's to weigh the good it's to weigh basically what's worse in order to achieve our objective.

Like, are we willing to we're willing to do whatever it takes to achieve the objective, although we will do the thing that's the least worse. And and you hear stories of, you know, some of the, like, insane human atrocities and, you know, things that have been done with people in the intelligence community overseas, you know, on black operations during wars and and these these kinds of things. And, I guess the point I'm trying to get across is that the only way on this on this global scale of nations. If you want to be the most powerful nation state on planet Earth in this anarchistic global battle that these nations are fighting, you can't be tied down by morals to get ahead. So so let me describe it this way.

There are two ways to get power in this world. One is to amass force, whether it's financial force, legal force, physical force, but, ultimately, it comes out of a gun. And power on planet Earth is run out of a gun. Yes. It comes from force.

There's another way to get power, and that's from righteousness. In other words, if you have the power to call on divine intelligence, not just as an individual, but as a group, And you have the ability to make and keep contracts across time and space and communicate across time and space, you know, freely and openly. You know, if you go read the bible, that's the story of Gideon. That's the story of Jericho. There's another way to get power.

And, ultimately, 8,000,000,000 people operating that power is more powerful than all the the bombs and the demonic force. Mhmm. And they know that. That's one of the reasons they, you know, they don't want us to know that, to come to that power. But, you know, you you have to understand I don't know if you did you ever read Ingo Swann?

He's got a great book on power. Yeah. I haven't read the books, so I'm familiar with it. You read his book on power. But Ingo Swann was a scientologist.

Ingo Swann was a remote viewer. And a scientologist. Right. Yeah. And, but he was a he was what did they call it?

They called Leonardo da Vinci the same thing. He was one of those people who's sort of a genius. Polymath? Yeah. Polymath.

Yeah. And, anyway but but there there is another way to get power. And if you train a population to operate without morals, you make them powerless. So you think, like, a one world religion would be ideal? I think a one world religion would be a joke.

I mean, I I just you know? I mean It seems that religion has been the has been, throughout history, the number one source of death and war. Well, religion organized religion misused. Mhmm. So, I mean, religion has been true.

Religion has been the source of many great things. So Right. I got I guess I guess my point was just like like, if you're gonna separate like, the the the this is the this is the conundrum. This is the paradox of it. If you separate more morality and government, you can't be the most powerful government.

Right? And it seems like this this This account. This you think you think? I I'm absolutely sure. It seems like we're in this, like, weird self fulfilling prophecy.

You have to there's a one do you ever watch the TV series Yellowstone? Yes. So I'm a huge Taylor Sheridan fan. Just a huge shirt. Yeah.

Anyway, but but I don't know if you remember the second season where the big issue is what are we gonna do about the Beck Brothers? Okay. Okay. And so they have to come up with a way of legally killing the Beck brothers because they gotta kill them. Right.

There's nothing. And and the son corners one of the Beck brothers on you know, in the bathroom right before he shoots him. And he says, why do you make us do it? Why do you you know, why why do you why did you force us to kill you? And the guy says, because nobody ever fights back.

In the sense, as we do, bang, you're dead. And then he goes and sits on the porch with his dad, and his dad says, you know, the trick is to be, you know, is to be more evil than evil so that you can stop evil and protect your family, but still love your family and joy a sense. Right. So the question is, how can I outwit and defeat great evil and still have the capacity to love? That is the question.

That is the question. And a great a great moral government can do that, but you have to be prepared. So probably shouldn't say the story. My my sister, a group of people many years ago was trying to get me to run for president in New Hampshire, not because I had a chance of winning. They're just so to bring disclosure, to get people to understand what was going on.

So and I absolutely refused. I said I had enough nothing to do with it. So my sister called me and she said, well, what you know? Okay. Let's just pretend you're willing to do it.

What will we have to get for you to be able to do it? I said, you would have to give me 250 licenses to kill. No questions asked. And she's a lawyer. She said, that is the most unethical and moral thing Mhmm.

I've ever heard. I said, how am I supposed to run on organized crime syndicate unless I have the ability to enforce? Right. Right. So she thought that was unethical.

I didn't think it was unethical. She asked me what I needed to do the job effectively. Right? Mhmm. Right.

In order to survive? No. In order to to do a good job at the job. So if if you're gonna stop evil, you're gonna have to use force, and you're gonna have to use it wisely, and you're gonna have to use it well, but you're gonna have to use it because you're you're dealing what was it? What was that great scene when president when Jack Nicholson is the president and he's talking to the aliens and he says, why can't we just all get along and they kill him?

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But this is like then you get into like, if you wanna use another example of this paradox would be, like, what's going on in The Middle East with Israel and, the Muslims, right, and the Israel Palestine thing. When and I think there was just some lady who was, she was she was up for I think she was up for the, some some position in the UN.

Right? Like, the ambassador to the UN. And she was in front of congress, and she just and somebody asked her, like, do you think, Israel has a biblical right to the West Bank? And she goes, absolutely. Israel has a biblical right to the West Bank.

Then she hasn't read the ancient scripture. That's a bunch of hooey. Ask Farrell. Farrell Yeah. And Farrell has a PhD in picture of six from Oxford and get him to explain it.

It's all a bunch of hooey. Yeah. Yeah. That's just an organized crime syndicate. It was great.

It's been. So how do you think we get back on the right path then? On this where it seems like we're on this downward spiral right now. We are definitely on a downward spiral, and we have to change the model. And I you know, what what we focus on at Solari.

So if you come to Solari, we have something called the building wealth curriculum. I told you to go take a look at it. Yep. I watched it. I think we have to decide, do we wanna be free, or do we wanna be in the control grid?

And so we're gonna have to slow down and stop the control grid. And there are many things you can do. So we have a a several big pieces on how to work with your state legislature and all the things the state legislature can do under the constitution Mhmm. To protect the constitution and to to stop the control grid. Okay?

And I think that's one thing. The other thing is if you look at how many of us are financing the cold control grid, supporting the control grid, supporting the people who are implementing the control grid, are going to work and implementing ourselves, We can all just stop doing that. And so that's another thing we can do. And we have, it's an article. I wanna stop CBDCs.

What can I do? So we have a fantastic amount of information. But then I also think each one of us can go to work in our own life because this is a one control and freedom happen one person at a time. And what you can do is make sure you and your family are controlled, that you're free, but you use your time and money to do things that help other people be free. Because you and I can't be free unless everybody else is free.

It's an all or nothing thing. So we have to grow and adopt a culture where we're getting our power not from a gun, but we're getting our power from righteousness. And we are doing things that help our family be free, like protecting them from the great poisoning. I mean, you, Danny Jones, should be doing everything in your family to make sure your water, your food, your, your whole way of life is protecting your family from the great poisoning. There are many, many things you can do to do that, especially because you live in a very beautiful place.

But, and so and so we have to live our lives and and live our lives where we adopt and support the culture that is healthy and and help those around us do the same. And if you if you come into Solari, that's what our whole building wealth curriculum is about. And all of our political action, we've invested extraordinary money in the last two years trying to help state legislatures do those things under the constitution they can do to slow down and stop the control grid. We can stop it. We still have time to stop it.

So So you're optimistic about this? I'm optimistic that it's possible. I'm not, if if you look at how many people are just going along with it. Mhmm. It's pretty scary.

Yeah. Yeah. So and and it's funny because the number one criticism I've gotten over the last year is is, I'm critical because I'm not supporting the president. And my attitude is if the president is implementing a digital control grid, no. I'm not gonna support him on that.

You know? And, you know, it's not personal. Mhmm. I wanna be free. Sure.

Right. So and and I think a lot of people I've always told everyone, look. You can't the federal government is financially dependent on the bankers. You can't implement real change inside the federal government. I mean, you can implement some, but the kind of change we need are millions of people saying, no.

We won't go into the control grid. I mean, if tomorrow, everybody got up and and just 10% pulled their money out of JPMorgan Chase and said, you know, we don't wanna be controlled whether by CBDCs or stablecoins. Mhmm. It would rock the world. It seems like it's, things are getting harder for the younger generations to do anything nowadays, especially with, like, interest rates going up.

People can't buy houses, you know, with people can't afford to borrow money. You know, universities, the job market. You know, who knows what the job market's gonna look like in ten years with AI? So there are solutions to all of that. I mean, if you if we were to change the financial liquidity on the ground, we could make things wonderful for the young people.

And the young people could, you know, build companies and lead us out of this. So we could revive Main Street. The money is there, and the ability to do it is there. I mean, that's all possible. But, you know, it starts with recognizing the way we're going isn't gonna work.

Mhmm. And and you have a group of people who are using the federal budget to centralize power. So what I can show you is the federal budget, the vast majority of money. I I can't tell you what the waste is like. So, for example, back to the foreclosed properties at HUD Mhmm.

I would find neighborhoods where we were spending $250,000 per unit to build public housing where 50,000 would buy and rehab a foreclosed property in the FHA properties. So we could get four or five homes for the price of one. Wow. But they wouldn't change it because when I took the material to the woman who was the special assistant, the guy who ran the public housing program, she said, but how would we generate fees for our friends? The entire federal budget is engineered around fees for our friends, and I don't see anything being done to change that.

No. But we could change that because you can't if you look at the laws, that apply to financial management, I mean, the laws are all there if we implement and enforce them. So this can be changed. Well, thank you. This has been fascinating.

I'm gonna have to go back and watch this podcast, like, two more times to fully understand it. Okay. Well, I'm happy I'm happy. You know, I sent you a lot of homework before we did this. I'm happy to send you more homework.

Yes. Oh, I would love that. Thank you very much. And then, your the two the links are the solarireport.com. Is that it?

Yeah. And then what was the other one? Solari screens, but just go to solari. Everything branches off of solari.com. Okay.

Beautiful. Thank you, Danny Jones. Thank you. It's been a real pleasure. It's been a it's very nice to meet you.

It's and, I'll link everything below. And we have some Patreon questions if you don't mind ask asking them. We have some, Patreon members that have some great questions for you. So we'll wrap up the podcast now. Okay.

And then we'll go hit a couple of those. Okay. That's all, folks. Good night.