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Trump's Trade Claims: A Brutal Economic Takedown
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This audio excerpt features economists Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson critically analyzing the Trump administration's trade strategies, particularly its imposition of tariffs on China. Hudson argues that Trump's idea of a "balanced economy" misunderstands China's state-driven economic success, which mirrors historical industrialization models. He suggests China is prepared to counter U.S. tariffs by limiting exports of crucial materials, potentially disrupting American industries. Wolff concurs, labeling the U.S. approach as "desperation economics" lacking a coherent industrial policy and driven by a desire to maintain tax cuts for the wealthy. Both economists express skepticism about the long-term effectiveness and potential negative consequences of these trade policies, highlighting the risk of economic stagnation and international resentment. They suggest Trump's actions stem from a flawed understanding of economic history and a prioritization of his donor class's interests.
Hudson states that Trump's idea of a "balanced economy" seems to imply minimal government intervention and ideally no income tax, while China views its economy as a mixed public-private system with active government involvement, similar to historical industrializing nations.
China's strategy, according to Hudson, is a "rope a dope" approach, involving potentially halting exports of critical materials and requiring licenses for their acquisition. This gives China leverage as the U.S. economy relies on these imports for production.
Wolff emphasizes China's transformation from one of the poorest nations to a global economic powerhouse and highlights their becoming the manufacturing center of the world, along with their advanced infrastructure like bullet trains.
Wolff argues that the U.S. has been running a trade imbalance since the 1970s, funded by exporting dollars that return as debt, leading to a precarious financial situation and a declining American empire.
Wolff suggests that Trump's tariffs are seen globally as a sign of desperation and have given other world leaders an opportunity to blame their own economic problems on Trump, fostering international hostility towards the U.S.
Hudson contends that Trump's primary political aim behind the tariff policy is to generate enough revenue to justify and maintain the tax cuts enacted during his first administration, benefiting his wealthy donor base.
Hudson points out that while Trump admires the era of high tariffs in the late 19th century, he overlooks the crucial role of government nurturing and regulation in fostering industrial growth during that period, which contrasts with his current approach.
Prior to World War I, customs revenue from tariffs was the dominant form of U.S. government income. Hudson suggests Trump sees tariffs as a way to return to this model and finance further income tax cuts for the wealthy.
Wolff believes the U.S. donor class lives in a "fantasy world," failing to recognize the weakening economic, political, and ideological position of the United States in the face of rising global powers like China.
Both Wolff and Hudson reference the recent collapse of Liz Truss's economic plan in Britain due to the bond market's refusal to absorb more debt. This illustrates the potential for the U.S. bond market to react negatively to increased deficits caused by tax cuts and trade imbalances.
1. Lack of a Coherent US Trade Strategy:
Both Wolff and Hudson express bewilderment at the Trump administration's stated trade strategy, echoing reports of confusion even within the Republican party.
Quote (Hudson): "Well, when Bessant said that China had an unbalanced economy, what it meant was that it was successful and him for his idea a balanced economy is one without any government." This highlights Hudson's view that the US definition of "unbalanced" reflects an ideological opposition to government intervention rather than an objective economic assessment.
Quote (Wolff quoting GOP Senator Ron Johnson): "He said he has no idea what is the the strategy." This underscores the perceived lack of clarity and direction in the US approach.
2. China's Strategic Response and Economic Strengths:
Hudson argues that China understands its position as a key provider of raw materials and is adopting a "rope a dope" strategy, willing to withstand US pressure and potentially retaliate by limiting exports of critical goods.
Quote (Hudson): "China has the ability to stop to just uh interrupt America's production relations and assembly lines uh and just stop things." This emphasizes China's leverage due to its central role in global supply chains.
Both economists point to China's successful economic development over the past decades, contrasting it with the US's current challenges.
Quote (Wolff): "Why in the world would you want to call that not what it is? What Michael says success? Of course it's success. They've become the manufacturing center of the world in that period of time." Wolff highlights the undeniable economic achievements of China.
They emphasize China's state-led development model, including public infrastructure and a financial system geared towards industrial growth, as key factors in its success, a model the US once followed.
3. Tariffs as a Flawed and Misunderstood Tool:
Hudson argues that simply imposing tariffs is not an industrial policy and will only make imports more expensive, including essential components for US industries.
Quote (Hudson): "Simply imposing tariffs isn't industrial policy. It merely makes it more expensive. for companies to import from their affiliates uh automobile parts from Canada and Mexico..." This illustrates the potentially harmful impact of tariffs on existing supply chains and US businesses.
Wolff posits that Trump's primary motivation for tariffs is to generate revenue to offset and further expand tax cuts for the wealthy, drawing a parallel to pre-income tax era US history but ignoring the government's active role in nurturing industry during that time.
Quote (Wolff): "The whole idea of uh introducing tariffs is he said the more tariff revenues we can raise, the more income taxes we can cut." This reveals Wolff's interpretation of Trump's underlying fiscal agenda.
4. The Declining US Economic Position:
Wolff emphasizes the long-term trade imbalances and the accumulation of debt as indicators of a weakening US economic empire.
Quote (Wolff): "If for the last 40, 50 years you have run a trade imbalance... and you've paid for it by massive export of dollars that come back as debt. You're deepening a level of debt that will one day lead people to hesitate to absorb more debt." This highlights the inherent vulnerabilities in the US economic model.
He draws a parallel to the recent British financial crisis under Liz Truss, where the bond market reacted negatively to increased borrowing, suggesting a similar risk for the US.
Quote (Wolff): "They're in trouble here and the imposition of tariffs... This is desperation economics." Wolff characterizes the tariff policy as a sign of weakness rather than strength.
5. Misunderstanding of Historical US Industrialization:
Hudson and Wolff both point out the irony that Trump admires the late 19th century (the Gilded Age) while overlooking the crucial role of government intervention, infrastructure investment, and financial regulation that underpinned America's earlier industrial success.
Quote (Hudson): "The irony is that this model that has made China so successful is exactly the same model that the United States followed in the 19th century..." This underscores the historical amnesia regarding the role of the state in US economic development.
Wolff details how the Gilded Age was characterized by unregulated monopolies and wealth accumulation at the expense of the broader economy, leading to antitrust laws and the income tax, policies Trump seems to disregard.
6. Trump's Flexibility and the Impact of Uncertainty:
Trump's explanation for pausing some tariffs ("Sometimes you have to be able to go under the wall, around the wall, or over the wall. These guys know that better than anybody, right? You got to go around them. Sometimes you're not going to go through them. So, I I consider, you know, I I think in financial markets cuz they change. Look how much it changed today.") is characterized as a justification for inconsistent policy driven by market reactions.
Wolff highlights the damaging effects of this on-again, off-again approach, creating uncertainty for businesses and hindering investment decisions.
Quote (Wolff): "Nobody knows how to make an investment, where to make it. You won't know what the supply chains are because you don't know where the tariffs will or will not be or for how long they'll be or for what height. How do you make a decision? You don't. You wait." This illustrates the paralyzing effect of unpredictable trade policies.
7. Global Reaction and the Risk of Isolation:
Wolff argues that Trump's aggressive tariff policies are alienating allies and providing other world leaders with a convenient scapegoat for their own economic problems.
Quote (Wolff): "What he has given is a gift to every other leader of every other country who will now be able to point to the economic problems of his or her country and blame Mr. Trump." This suggests that Trump's actions could backfire on the US's global standing.
He posits that if other countries lower their prices to absorb the tariffs and maintain access to the US market, it will be a form of tribute paid to the US, fostering resentment and potentially leading to the US being perceived as a "rogue nation."
Conclusion:
Wolff and Hudson present a critical and pessimistic outlook on the Trump administration's trade policies towards China. They argue that these policies are based on flawed understandings of economics and history, driven by a desire for tax cuts for the wealthy rather than a genuine strategy for industrial revival. They foresee potential negative consequences for the US economy, including disrupted supply chains, increased costs for consumers and businesses, and a weakening of its global standing. Furthermore, they highlight China's strategic resilience and the vulnerabilities of the heavily indebted US economy in the face of this trade conflict.
Glossary of Key Terms
Industrial Policy: Government strategies and interventions aimed at supporting and shaping the growth and competitiveness of the domestic industrial sector.
Mercantilism: An economic theory prevalent in the 16th-18th centuries emphasizing national wealth through a positive balance of trade, often involving government intervention and protectionist measures.
Mixed Economy: An economic system that combines elements of both capitalism (private ownership and free markets) and socialism (government intervention and public ownership).
Public Infrastructure: Essential facilities and systems owned and operated by the government or public entities, such as transportation networks (railroads, roads), communication systems, and utilities (electricity, water).
Financialization: A process where financial markets, institutions, and motives gain increasing influence over economic policy and outcomes, often at the expense of industrial production.
Trade Imbalance: A situation where a country's value of imports exceeds or falls below the value of its exports over a specific period.
Tariffs: Taxes imposed by a government on imported goods, often used to protect domestic industries or generate revenue.
Industrial Takeoff: A rapid and sustained period of industrial growth that transforms a country's economy.
Donor Class: A group of wealthy individuals and organizations that contribute significantly to political campaigns and often exert influence on policy decisions.
Bond Market: A financial market where debt instruments (bonds) are bought and sold, reflecting investor confidence in the borrower's ability to repay.
Stagflation: An economic condition characterized by slow economic growth (stagnation) combined with high inflation.
Progressive Taxation: A tax system where higher-income earners pay a larger percentage of their income in taxes compared to lower-income earners.
Customs Revenue: Income generated by the government from taxes imposed on imported or exported goods.
Robber Barons: A negative term used to describe wealthy and powerful businessmen in the late 19th century who were often accused of using exploitative practices to amass their fortunes.
Antitrust Law: Legislation designed to prevent monopolies and promote competition in the marketplace (e.g., the Sherman Antitrust Act).
Gilded Age: A period in late 19th-century American history characterized by rapid economic growth and industrialization, but also significant social problems and inequalities.
Fiscal Deficit: The amount by which a government's expenditures exceed its revenues in a given period.
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The Trump administration's trade strategy with China is unclear. Even GOP Senator Ron Johnson reportedly has no idea what the strategy is1 . This raises questions about the coherence and direction of the US approach to the economic conflict1 .
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Trump's definition of a "balanced economy" is unconventional. According to Michael Hudson, for Trump, a balanced economy ideally means one without any government and without income tax1 . This perspective contrasts with China's view of a mixed public-private economy1 .
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China views its economy as a mixed public-private system. China believes the government should play the same active role it did in the United States' industrial takeoff in the 19th century, as well as in Germany's and earlier British mercantilism1 . This model emphasizes government involvement in the economy1 .
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China is a crucial global provider of raw materials. The sources indicate that China already is the central provider and refiner of many raw materials that the West needs1 . This gives China significant leverage in international trade1 .
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China has stated it will not be bullied in trade negotiations. China's foreign minister has asserted that they are "not going to be bullied" and will not negotiate when someone threatens to harm them with tariffs1 . This signals a firm stance against unilateral pressure from the US1 .
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China's retaliatory strategy involves halting critical exports to the US. If the US raises tariffs, China's potential response is to stop its exports of critical materials1 . This could severely disrupt American industry1 .
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American industry relies on imports from China for essential goods. Without imports from China, American industry could face shortages of parts, pharmaceuticals, various chemicals, and raw materials, potentially leading to production halts1 . This highlights the interconnectedness of the two economies1 .
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China can control the flow of critical materials through licensing. China has the ability to require licenses for the critical materials it produces1 . This control could be used to interrupt America's production relations and assembly lines1 .
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Chinese policymakers believe the US is engaging in "economic suicide." Their view is not that China will lose in the conflict, but that the United States is committing economic suicide1 . This perspective suggests a lack of confidence in the US strategy1 .
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Simply imposing tariffs does not constitute an industrial policy. Michael Hudson argues that merely making imports more expensive for companies is not the same as having a strategic industrial policy1 . This critique suggests a fundamental flaw in the US approach1 .
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US tariffs can negatively impact trade with allies. Tariffs can make it more expensive for companies to import from affiliates in countries like Canada and Mexico1 . This demonstrates the broad impact of tariff policies beyond China1 .
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China's economic success is linked to its public ownership of key infrastructure. China has kept public infrastructure in the public domain and has not privatized it1 . This is seen as a key difference from Western countries like the US1 .
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China's financial system is designed to support industrial growth. Unlike the US, China doesn't have a domestic financial class that primarily profits from speculation and buying out companies to de-industrialize1 . Instead, finance in China is integrated with industrial development1 .
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China's economic model historically prioritized raising wages and subsidizing infrastructure. The aim in China has been to raise wages to increase productivity and to provide essential infrastructure at cost or subsidized rates1 . This reduces the burden on individual workers and industrial companies1 .
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Trump fails to recognize the reasons behind China's economic development. He simply observes that China is developing while America isn't and views this as a rivalry that needs to be stopped1 . He doesn't consider adopting China's successful model1 .
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China's current economic model mirrors the historical development of the US and Germany. The model that has made China successful is the same one that the United States followed in the 19th century for its industrial takeoff, as did Germany1 . This highlights a historical precedent for China's approach1 .
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Industrialization often involves a mixed economy and directed finance. The logic of industrialization involves a mixed economy where the banking system is used to finance industrial development, not just to create monopolies1 . This contrasts with the speculative tendencies in some Western economies1 .
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Trump lacks a recognized industrial policy to support his tariffs. Without an underlying industrial policy, the imposition of tariffs may not achieve its intended strategic goals1 . This absence is seen as a critical weakness1 .
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China is strategically assessing the trade relationship and who is more dependent. Chinese policymakers are analyzing who trades what and who needs what in this economic conflict1 . This suggests a calculated and informed response to US actions1 .
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Richard Wolff finds the US Treasury Secretary's statements about China embarrassing. He expresses being "beyond words almost" at what comes out of the Treasury Secretary's mouth2 . This reflects a strong disagreement with the administration's rhetoric2 .
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China has achieved remarkable economic growth in a short period. Seventy years ago, China was among the poorest countries, but over the last 75 years, it has become an economic powerhouse2 . This transformation is a significant global development2 .
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China has become the manufacturing center of the world. In the same period of dramatic growth, China has established itself as the manufacturing center of the world2 . This dominance in manufacturing gives it considerable economic influence2 .
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China's infrastructure development, such as bullet trains, surpasses the US. China has a complex network of super-fast bullet trains connecting the country, while the US has limited comparable infrastructure2 . This highlights a difference in national investment priorities2 .
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Historically, trains were a major breakthrough for US development. The trains in the 19th century unified the US and opened up the Midwest, transforming the country2 . This historical parallel underscores the importance of infrastructure2 .
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Earlier US administrations hoped that WTO membership would make China more like the US. There was an expectation that bringing China into the World Trade Organization would lead to a convergence of their economic systems2 . This expectation has not been fully realized2 .
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China has no inherent reason to emulate the US economic growth model. China doesn't necessarily want to have the slower economic growth experienced by the US2 . Their priorities and approach to development differ2 .
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The IMF projects higher economic growth for China than the US in 2024. According to the International Monetary Fund, US economic growth is projected at around 2.8%, while China's is around 5%2 . This suggests a continued divergence in growth rates2 .
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Concerns about the reliability of Chinese economic data are diminishing. While such concerns have persisted for decades, they are now "beginning to fade away" as the data appears to have been accurate2 . This lends more credibility to China's reported economic performance2 .
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The US government and capitalist system are facing significant challenges. Richard Wolff argues that it is the American government and empire that are declining, and the American capitalist system that has "dug itself into a hole"2 . This paints a pessimistic picture of the US economic situation2 .
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Persistent US trade imbalances have led to a massive accumulation of debt. Since the 1970s, the US has run a trade imbalance, paid for by the massive export of dollars that return as debt2 . This increasing debt level is a cause for concern2 .
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The bond market is showing signs of concern about US debt levels. The reaction in the bond market indicates a growing hesitation to absorb more US debt2 . This can have significant consequences for government borrowing costs2 .
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The experience of Liz Truss in Britain illustrates the risks of unsustainable debt. When she tried to push beyond acceptable levels of debt, the bond market reacted negatively, crippling the British economy2 . This serves as a cautionary tale for the US2 .
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Trump's imposition of tariffs constitutes an "economic war" on much of the world. By placing tariffs on almost every country, Trump has taken an unprecedented step in international trade relations2 . This has strained relationships with allies and adversaries alike2 .
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Trump's trade policies are characterized as "desperation economics." The nature of these policies, including their on-again, off-again implementation, suggests a sense of desperation rather than a calm, collected strategy2 . This raises questions about the stability and predictability of US trade policy2 .
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Uncertainty in US tariff policy hinders global investment decisions. The fluctuating nature of tariffs makes it difficult for businesses to make investment decisions and plan supply chains2 . This uncertainty can lead to economic stagnation2 .
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Stagflation, a combination of stagnation and inflation, is a potential outcome of Trump's policies. The holding back of investment due to uncertainty, coupled with inflation from tariffs, could lead to this damaging economic scenario2 . This is a significant economic risk associated with the policies2 .
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Trump's policies provide other world leaders with a scapegoat for their economic problems. By attacking the world for cheating, Trump inadvertently gives other leaders someone to blame for their own countries' economic issues2 . This could foster resentment towards the US2 .
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Trump may not fully understand the consequences of his trade actions. Richard Wolff suggests that Trump doesn't seem to grasp the full implications of his policies2 . This lack of understanding could lead to unintended negative outcomes2 .
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Trump's pauses and reversals of tariffs demonstrate policy flexibility or inconsistency. Donald Trump himself stated that "you have to have flexibility" in financial markets and trade3 . He used the analogy of going under, around, or over a wall to explain these changes3 .
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Trump's primary political aim is to cut taxes, particularly for the wealthy. Richard Wolff believes that the tariff issue is secondary to the Republican and Trump administration's goal of cutting taxes, especially progressive taxation4 . This suggests a domestic political motivation behind the trade policies4 .
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Historically, tariffs were a dominant source of US government revenue. From American independence until World War I, customs revenue from tariffs was the primary way the government financed itself4 . This historical context informs Trump's interest in tariffs4 .
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Trump believes tariffs can fund further tax cuts for the wealthiest. He seems to think that increased tariff revenues can allow the United States to maintain and even expand tax cuts for the highest income earners and personal wealth4 . This is a key driver of his tariff policy4 .
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The idea that tax cuts for the wealthy will automatically rebuild American industry is questioned. Richard Wolff finds it ironic that giving more wealth to financial managers, who have been involved in de-industrialization, is expected to spur industrial growth4 . This challenges the underlying logic of the tax-cut strategy4 .
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Historical US industrial success involved government nurturing in a mixed economy. Tariffs in the past were merely a precondition for the government actively shaping markets to support industry and minimize costs4 . This crucial element of government support seems to be missing in Trump's approach4 .
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Trump admires the "robber baron" era, overlooking its negative aspects. He is seen as admiring the super affluence of the robber baron class and seemingly identifies with it4 . However, he may not fully understand the lack of regulation and the societal costs of that era4 .
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The Gilded Age's wealth accumulation came at the expense of the broader economy due to unregulated monopolies. Great fortunes during that period were made possible by the failure to regulate monopolies and the failure to tax higher income4 . This historical context suggests that such wealth concentration can be detrimental4 .
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Antitrust laws and income tax were introduced to counter the problems of the Gilded Age. The Sherman Antitrust Law, Theodore Roosevelt's trust-busting, and the introduction of income tax aimed to curb the excesses of the robber baron era4 . This demonstrates a historical shift away from the economic conditions Trump seems to admire4 .
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Trump's admiration of the late 19th century overlooks the policies that ultimately enriched America. He admires a period that preceded and was eventually countered by the very policies that fostered America's significant industrial growth in the 20th century4 . This highlights a potential misunderstanding of economic history4 .
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The US donor class operates under a delusion of continued US dominance. Richard Wolff characterizes the US donor class as living in a "fantasy world" where they believe the US can still act as it once did5 . This disconnect from reality could lead to flawed policy decisions5 .
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The US's global standing is weakening across multiple dimensions. The United States' economic, political, ideological, cultural, and military position is in decline5 . This weakening position limits the effectiveness of assertive policies like widespread tariffs5 .
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Military strategists believe time favors China in the current conflict. Experts suggest that in the ongoing US-China competition, time is on China's side, not the US's5 . This implies a need for a strategic shift in the US approach5 .
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A declining empire has fewer options than a rising one in international affairs. The US, as a potentially declining empire, does not possess the same range of options it had when it was ascendant5 . This limits the effectiveness of unilateral actions5 .
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The previous successful use of tariffs by the US occurred during a period of rising dominance. When the US last heavily relied on tariffs, it was a rising global power without a major economic competitor like China5 . The current context is significantly different5 .
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McKinley shifted away from tariffs due to opposition from the wealthy class. While initially supporting tariffs, President McKinley later turned against the policy due to difficulties arising from the very class Michael Hudson discusses5 . This shows historical precedent for wealthy interests influencing trade policy5 .
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A key driver of Trump's policies is to prevent the expiration of the 2017 tax cuts. The potential expiration of these tax cuts at the end of the year is a major concern for Trump and his donor class5 . This looming deadline influences current policy decisions5 .
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The expiration of the 2017 tax cuts would significantly increase taxes for the wealthy. Allowing the tax cuts to expire would result in an "enormous tax increase" for Trump's donor base5 . This financial implication motivates efforts to maintain or extend the cuts5 .
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Trump's promise of further tax cuts adds to concerns about the national deficit. Despite an already projected $2 trillion deficit, Trump has promised even more tax cuts5 . This raises serious questions about the sustainability of US fiscal policy5 .
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The risk of a bond market breakdown is increasing due to US debt levels. With a growing deficit and potential unwillingness of lenders to absorb more debt, the US faces an "unbelievable risk of a bond market breakdown"5 . This could have severe economic consequences5 .
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If foreign businesses absorb tariff costs, the US effectively extracts a "tribute." If companies abroad lower their prices to maintain access to the US market despite tariffs, they are essentially paying a tribute to the United States5 . However, this outcome is not guaranteed and faces resistance5 .
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Trump's trade policies risk making the US a "rogue nation" in global perception. Requiring other countries to pay a tribute through tariffs is likely to generate hostility and could lead to the US being viewed as a rogue nation by allies and enemies alike5 . This could damage international relationships and undermine US influence5 .