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Post date: Oct 10, 2017 7:23:58 PM
Final Write Up: Jack Kelly
At first Max and I wanted to make some sort of project that related to things we like outside of school and maybe something we can even use one day. The first idea that we had was make skis because the winter season was coming and we both love skiing. After further research we then decided to make a skateboard because it smaller scale which is easier to work with. Once we decided that we wanted to make a skateboard Mr. D came up with the idea that we should be a real size press for the board so that we could make many more once we had the press. Instead with are original idea of just making one skateboard this idea gave us the ability to make a lot based on what we had. Some of the first ideas that we developed were nothing like the ones we ended up having at the end. We wanted to make the press more hand made at first because we thought it would be a lot easier then trying to learn the 4 different types of machines that needed to be used. We than realize if we were going to do it we have to do it right so we took a lot of this time learning how to use the Shopbot, different types of saws, and various different programs to design the actual press. We learned along the way that there are a lot of different ways to make different things that involve mass amounts of work. One of are inspirations was Ben Naft from the class of 2017. We called him up one day so that he could he use some of his idea from last year to help us. He told us that he had a lot of his brother help when he was making his press because his brother was working on projects like this in college. He then lead us to 2 different file that had to bottom part of the mold and the top part of the mold so that we could put it into V carve pro. We learned that we could not just put the file into shopbot and make it happen with the click of a bottom. We actually had to learn how to make the correct tool paths so that we could carve the concave. I wish that Max and I would have started learning how to use all the machines first because we would have finished the project by now. In conclusion I am most proud of the skills and creative ideas that I learned during this class. Making the project with max was fun but that’s not all this class is about. It about learning how to use these creative skills so that we can use them in the future of our education.
Jack Kelly
Max Goodin
Final write-up: Max Goodin
My initial idea for this project was for Jack and I to make a pair of skis. We talked to Mr. D and he told us to make a skateboard instead of skis because it would not be as expensive. I now see why it was a good idea to make a skateboard because making a skateboard press has been hard and is much smaller than a ski press would be. My initial idea was to make a skateboard or a snowboard because they are both something that I really love to do and I’ve always wanted to make a skateboard and we have the resources to do that in the Fab Lab. I learned a lot more than I thought I would in this course. I learned how to use all the machines including the vinyl cutter, the shop bot, the laser cutter, and the 3D printer. I learned about what kind of wood is good to use for a skateboard also. I learned that when making something on any of the machines that you want to use as little material as possible because they are expensive. I credit a lot of our ideas and resources to Ben Naft, who worked on making a skateboard the year before us, but never got around to cutting out his press. Without his premade press we would not be as far along as we are. We also used his design that he made in Vcarve pro, which was also very helpful. I wish we would have managed our time better in the beginning of the project so we could have been farther along by the end of the class. I am most proud of learning how to use the shop bot and that we are going to continue to work on the skateboard press outside of this class to finish it and make a skateboard.
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This is the drawing of a skateboard Jack and I are going to make. In order to make the concave, the nose, and the tail we will also need to make a press. The press will be the most important and hardest part of the project, because we will need to use strong wood so it does not break when using it. We will also need to find the right kind of wood for the skateboard to make it strong. If we use regular plywood it will break.Two types of wood that we found were very strong and used in skateboards are Canadian Maple and Baltic Birch. Using the right glue will also be important to keep the layers of wood together. We will be using seven layers of wood to make it about 1.47mm thick. We want to make the skateboard around 8.5 inches wide and 32 inches long.
Here is a link to a site that looks really helpful. They are asking for a few different type of materials. We will need....
http://diyskate.com/mold_02.html
The PDF is found here:
Shape 0 http://www.diyskate.com/pdf/zero.pdf
Shape 1: http://www.diyskate.com/pdf/one.pdf
Shape 2: http://www.diyskate.com/pdf/two.pdf
Here is a helpful link to a video on how to make the press. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-knRBGgHGGI&t=18s
Materials needed
♠ 2 - 12' long 2×8's
♠ Box of 2 1/2" screws
♠ Wood glue
Tools needed
♠ Tape Measure & Pencil
♠ Circular saw & jig saw
♠ 4" Foam roller & tray
♠ Variety of sanders
♠ Combination square
♠ Chisel
These are materials used to make the actually press not the skateboard.
Another Video with measurements and models to make the press - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-sUNCYlYH4&t=42s
2 Different approaches to making the mold and getting a skateboard out of it.
Option 1: Use the 3d mill and grey scale to carve into the actual wood. Then hand sanding it. While using grey scale we need to create different depths so that we can make the concave from it.
Option 2: Roarockit We can use this the different sheets and we need at least 7 to make the skateboard. Are last resort we can buy the actually kit that compresses the wood onto the lower mold that we need to make. Trying to find another option for cheaper would but also the same quality. We need to try to make a machine that can compress so that we can mold the skateboard. http://www.roarockit.com/skateboard-building-1/
1/16 or 1/14 size wood pieces depending on how thick we want to board and how many layers
This is an air compressor and its out last resort and we only have time to make the bottom part of the mount.
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/how-to-build-a-complete
here is a link that explains the different step to putting a skateboard to together once we actually have a deck. Installing and putting the holes for the trucks is the most important part once we actually have the deck. This Website does the job well.
http://www.roarockit.com/woodworking/veneer/woodworker-10-pack/#.WeYPPGhSxPY
This is a link to the Roarockit website where we could purchase a 10 pack of birch plywood that come in 1/16 inch sheets that are 12x37. If we cant find the right size of wood we need at a local store we might have to end up ordering it from here.
MODEL SKATEBOARD PRESS AND BOARD:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS763US763&tbm=isch&q=32+inch+skateboard+diagram&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkz4ys8PfWAhVBRiYKHUVKAJ0QvwUIIygA&biw=1707&bih=844&dpr=1.13#imgrc=F0EtOIDW8dxKcM: --here is a link for the measurement of a regular skateboard. When we make our model it has to be 3.05 times smaller because of our 10.5 inch long cardboard board.
Skateboard Model:
- This is the first press that i wan planning to make for the small model. The stick that in the middle was used to separate the 2 others so that it can make the right shape. The screw in the middle was used to put rubber bands on it and the tip and tail of the board. Then we realized that the rubber band would dig into the cardboard and leave a mark. We had to think of a new idea.
- Then we decided to make the size model board that we wanted so we know how to make the correct measurements for the next press. We measured all the different parts of the board we made.
- After making the model board that we wanted and found out where we should press on the side. Then we made the right press to fit the measurements of the board.
This time instead of putting a screw in the middle and using a rubber band we decided to make the bottom part of a press that we can have accurate measurements. The 2 white block in the picture are used to push up and make the concave for the tip and they tail. Lastly we decided to put 2 chrome wooden sticks on the side so that we could make the side of the skateboard a concave. Now the net step is to find a way to press the Popsicle stick thing on top so that we dont need to hold it.
We had to put another piece of wood on top of the original one because it was not tall enough to make a concave in the skateboard.
Shopping List:
Birch Plywood - 2x8 we need 7 pieces
V carve pro or use inks cape to design each of the 4 different types of wood that need to go into the bottom part of the mold. Make sure when actually printing from v carve pro onto a piece of wood that you zero it and also make sure the vacuum is plug in and on so that the dust does not go anywhere. After using the machine make sure that you unscrew the piece of wood but also vacuum all the pieces of wood. When we use CNC machine we will first make the shape and that shaped with be a exact copy of the molder pieces of paper that we printed out before.
This is a paper version of the mold that shows the three levels the wood need to be at to make the concave in the board.
V Carve Pro- we first made a regular rectangle with measurements 8.5 by 32 inches. Then after we made circle at each end with a radius of 8.5 then union them so it actually looks like a skateboard. Next step is to make the measurement of the hole correct so that we can put the trucks on right. Making the hole in the right place is the hardest part so we have to make different boxes near the top and the tail so that we have the correct measurement from each side.
Trucks and Wheels: We will use trucks and wheels that we already have for now and if we have time left then we will figure it out.
Making the Press:
Making the design for each of the 4 different types of concave will be made in V carve pro
Today we cut out our wood skateboard and then sanded the edges of the board to make it smooth. Next class we hope to start working on design and to further our project in making it better.
Next Step: We face timed Ben Naft because we needed to find the right V Carve Pro document that he used before. He found it on a website that we could not find so we ask for his help. He gave us the document now at this point we need to figure out how to make all the correct tools paths to make sure it cuts correctly. After we do that we need to find a piece of wood that we can us that has layers to it. We can probably use one from last year or just make and glue our own.
Bottom
Top
Deck: Ordering Street Deck Maple 7 Layer sets with 1/16 cross band which is the biggest cross band because we want it to be a durable possible when we actually make it.
GLUE: Titebond wood glue is the best blue for the job because it recommended by most companies and is waterproof
Trucks: Max has trucks and wheels already that we can put on when we make the board
We are using the wood that Ben was going to use for his press, but he never got to it. We measured it and it is 32x9, which is a perfect size for our deck. We ran into problems with the shop bot when it stopped working so we have not got to carve out the press yet.
Starting the press late and only being in this class for a semester did not give us enough time to finish the press in our given class time, but we are going to keep working on it during our free time during intensives and the second semester. The shop bot was not able to smooth the press properly but we are going to work on smoothing it another way.
While the shop bot was not working, Mr. D told us to spend the class time using some of the machines, so we created a sticker on the vinyl cutter for the logo of our company.
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