204. Talmud questions and answers.
204. Talmud questions and answers.
Updated.
31 December 2021 (1443 AH).
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INDEX:
1. Introduction to the Talmud.
What is the Talmud? The Oral Torah meaning the Oral Law.
2. Talmud. Gentiles are suspected of bestiality in Avodah Zarah 22b explained.
3. Talmud. Gentile women are considered to be menstruating from birth in Avodah Zarah 36b explained.
4. Talmud. A nine year old boy is fit to engage in intercourse explained.
A female gentile child who is three years and one day old is fit to engage in intercourse in Avodah Zarah 37a explained.
5. Talmud. Anyone who transgresses the words of the Sages is liable to receive the death penalty explained.
Whoever mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement in Eruvin 21b explained.
6. Talmud. Jewish men give thanks for not being made a gentile and then give thanks for not being made a woman in Menahot 43b explained.
7. Talmud If a person has an evil inclination he should go to a place where he is not known.
He should wear black and maybe he will not sin.
If this does not help then he should do this evil in private and not desecrate the name of Heaven in public in Moed Katan 17a explained.
8. Talmud. If a Jew robs a gentile it is permitted in Sanhedrin 57a explained.
9. Talmud. A gentile who hit a Jew is liable to receive the death penalty explained.
Slapping the cheek of a Jew is like slapped the cheek of Allaah in Sanhedrin 58b explained.
10. Talmud. Gentiles are compared to animals in Yevamot 98a explained.
11. Talmud the oven of Akhnai.
Talmud Bava Metzia 59
Talmud Bava Metzia 59a-b
Talmud the rabbis defeated God.
Talmud the rabbis triumphed over God.
Talmud Allaah said “My children have triumphed over Me.”
12. Jesus in the Talmud.
Is Jesus in the Talmud?
1. Introduction to the Talmud.
What is the Talmud?
The Oral Torah meaning the Oral Law.
The scholarly debates of the Talmud.
Video 1. An introduction to the Talmud: Repository of The Oral Torah or Oral Law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZh0GJbrjkE
Video 2. What is the Talmud?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e43Ah19DseI
Video 3. The scholarly debates of the Talmud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEeLAQ6-fkI
2. Talmud. Gentiles are suspected of bestiality in Avodah Zarah 22b explained.
Talmud. “With regard to the assumption that gentiles are suspected of bestiality.
One may purchase an animal from gentiles for use as an offering, and there is no concern that it might be unfit due to it being an animal that copulated with a person, or due to it being an animal that was the object of bestiality, or due to it having been set aside for idol worship, or due to the animal itself having been worshipped” (Avodah Zarah 22b:1).
Read the verse after 22b:1.
22b:2 says “an animal which is used in idol worship would not be sold to Jews by idol worshippers because idol worshippers keep such animals for themselves.
Since bestiality can cause an animal to become barren their is no concern that the gentile engaged in immoral behaviour with it.
Therefore an animal purchased from a gentile can be used as an offering.”
Purpose of story. Animals purchased from gentiles can be used for offerings..
Reference https://www.sefaria.org/Avodah_Zarah.22b.1
3. Talmud. Gentile women are considered to be menstruating from birth in Avodah Zarah 36b explained.
Talmud. “Gentile women are considered to be menstruating from birth” (Avodah Zarah 36b:2).
Meaning. Menstruating means ritually unclean so the meaning of “unclean from birth” is a way of saying Jews are forbidden from marriage with non Jews.
A girl menstruating from birth is a way of saying marriage is forbidden between Jews and non Jews.
Marriage within Judaism passes Jewish identity to the next generation.
Marriage outside Judaism might cause the loss of Jewish identity in the next generation.
Reference https://www.sefaria.org/Avodah_Zarah.36b.2
4. Talmud. A nine year old boy is fit to engage in intercourse explained.
A female gentile child who is three years and one day old is fit to engage in intercourse in Avodah Zarah 37a explained.
Talmud. “Since a nine year old boy is fit to engage in intercourse (meaning his sexual parts are developed), he also imparts ritual impurity.
Regarding a female gentile child who is three years and one day old, since she is fit to engage in intercourse at that age (meaning her sexual outer part is developed), she also imparts impurity” (Avodah Zarah 37a:1).
Explanation. This is said to establish the age at which children can be considered to be ritually impure in matters of religion.
Read the verse before 37a:1.
In Avodah Zarah 36b:19 the question which the rabbis are discussing is “With regard to a male gentile child, from when, i.e., from what age, does he impart ritual impurity.”
Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said it is from when the boy is one day old however Rabbi Ḥiyya said it is from when the boy is nine years and one day old.
In Avodah Zarah 36b:20 when Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is told what Rabbi Ḥiyya said, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said “Discard my statement, and grasp the statement of Rabbi Ḥiyya, who says: “a gentile child imparts ritual impurity when he is 9 years and one day old.”
Read the verse after 37a:1.
Zarah 37a:2 explains that the reason a female is mentioned is in case someone says that “a gentile who is capable of intercourse imparts ritual impurity” does not apply to a female.
The verse also explains that a 9 years old knows how to sin using persuasion however a 3 year old gentile does not know how to make other people sin until she matures.
Explanation. Gentile women are considered to be “menstruating from birth” in Avodah Zarah 36b:2 meaning Jews are forbidden from marriage with non Jews,
In the same way as girl children do not physically menstruate from birth so also girl children do not physically have intercourse at the age of 3 years and 1 day.
A (gentile) girl “menstruating from birth” is a way of saying marriage is forbidden between Jews and non Jews.
Marriage within Judaism passes Jewish identity to the next generation.
Marriage outside Judaism might cause the loss of Jewish identity in the next generation.
“Intercourse” is a way of saying a person has reached the age of ritual impurity meaning the age of being ritually clean or ritually unclean in relation to religious matters of ritual purity and ritual impurity.
Purpose of this story. To establish the age at which children can be ritually impure in relation to certain religious matters.
Reference.https://www.sefaria.org/Avodah_Zarah.37a.1
5. Talmud. Anyone who transgresses the words of the Sages is liable to receive the death penalty explained.
Whoever mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement in Eruvin 21b explained.
Talmud. “Anyone who transgresses the words of the Sages is liable to receive the death penalty” (from God in the hereafter because they disobeyed God in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:11. Eruvin 21b:8).
https://www.sefaria.org/Eruvin.21b.8
Whoever mocks the words of the Sages (has violated Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13 and) will be sentenced (by Allaah) to boiling excrement (in the hereafter in Eruvin 21b:10).
https://www.sefaria.org/Eruvin.21b.10
The priests are the teachers of Torah and they say “wash your hands before you eat.”
The righteous know that Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13 says whoever does not listen to the priests who descended from Aaron the brother of Moses will be punished and therefore the righteous follow the teachings of the Torah as explained by the priests to them.
Eruvin 21b verse 14 and 15 is about how well Rabbi Akiva washed his hands when he was in jail saying that if the rabbi was so careful in his use of water to wash his hands when he was in jail and physically weak then how much more so was he righteous before he was in jail when it was easier to find water to wash your hands and he was physically strong.
Read the verses before Eruvin 21b:8.
In Eruvin 21b:3 “What is the meaning of the mandrakes yield a fragrance, and at our doors are all manner of choice fruits, new and old, which I have laid up for you, O my beloved” in Song of Songs 7:14.
In Eruvin 21b:7 “the old are commandments from the Torah, and these, the new, are (guidance) from the Sages” (as Allaah commanded in Torah Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13).
Why did Allaah decree the oral law through Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13.
In Eruvin 21b:8 “be careful of making many books (sefarim) because there is no limit (to the number of books that can be written as each new generation asks new questions to the Sages as commanded in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13): needing much study and causing weariness of the flesh” as explained in Ecclesiastes 12:12.
In Eruvin 21b:9 “In case you say: If the words of the Sages are of substance and have such great importance, why were they not written in the Torah, therefore, the verse states: “Of making many books there is no end,” meaning that it is impossible to fully commit the Oral Torah to writing as it has no limit (because each new generation has new questions and this is why Allaah has decreed the oral law in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13).”.
“What is the meaning of And much study is a weariness of the flesh in Eruvin 21b:10.”
Another understanding given in Eruvin 21b:10 is “This teaches that whoever mocks the words of the Sages (has violated Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13 and) will be sentenced (by Allaah) to boiling excrement (in the hereafter), which results from the weariness of the flesh of man (in Ecclesiastes 12:12).”
https://www.sefaria.org/Eruvin.21b.10
Purpose of story. Follow the guidance of the Sages as Allaah as commanded in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13.
Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13 says ask the priests about things you do not know or about controversial matters and do what the priests tell you.
Reference. Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13.
Deuteronomy 17:8 If there arise a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood (ritually clean) and blood (ritually unclean blood in menstruation), between judgement (of innocence) and judgement (of guilty), and between (ritually clean) lesion and (ritually unclean) lesion, words of dispute (controversy) in your cities; then you shall arise, and go up to the place which the LORD your Allaah chooses.
Deuteronomy 17:9 And you shall come to the priests the Levites, and to the judge that shall be in those days (in which you are living); and you shall inquire; and they shall tell you the words of judgment.
Deuteronomy 17:10 And you shall do according to the word they tell you, from that place which the LORD shall choose; and you shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you.
Deuteronomy 17:11 According to the law which they shall teach you, and according to the judgment which they shall tell you, you shall do; you shall not turn aside from the word which they tell to you, to the right, nor to the left.
Deuteronomy 17:12 And the man that intentionally does not obey the priest that stands to minister there before the LORD your Allaah, or to the judge, that man shall die; and you shall abolish evil from Israel.
Deuteronomy 17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and they shall no longer act intentionally (against the commandment of Allaah).
6. Talmud. Jewish men give thanks for not being made a gentile and then give thanks for not being made a woman in Menahot 43b explained.
Talmud. “A men is obligated to recite three blessings every day praising Allaah for His kindness and these blessings are: Who did not make me a gentile (meaning Allaah blessed me with more commandments than Allaah gave to the non Jews). Who did not make me a woman (meaning Allaah blessed me with more commandments than Allaah gave to Jewish women) and who did not make me ignorant” (of Allaah. Menahot 43b:17).
Purpose of story. To teach that the love to follow the commandments of Allaah are blessings from Allaah.
Reference. https://www.sefaria.org/Menachot.43b.17
7. Talmud If a person has an evil inclination he should go to a place where he is not known.
He should wear black and maybe he will not sin.
If this does not help then he should do this evil in private and not desecrate the name of Heaven in public in Moed Katan 17a explained.
Talmud. “What is the reason that an ostracised scholar was accepted in the cave of the judges after his death? Even though he sinned he acted in accordance with the following opinion. If a person sees that his evil inclination is gaining control over him and he cannot overcome it, then he should go to a place where he is not known. He should wear black, and he should wrap his head in black, as if he were a mourner. Perhaps these changes will influence him, so that he not sin. Even if these actions do not help, he should at least do as his heart desires in private and not desecrate the name of Heaven in public. Although this person had sinned, he did so in private and in a manner that did not publicly desecrate Allaah’s name, and therefore it was fitting that he be given an honourable burial”. (Moed Katan 17a:12).
https://www.sefaria.org/Moed_Katan.17a.12
Read the verse before 17a:12.. In Moed Katan 17a:11 “a wasp came and stung the ostracized scholar on his penis and he died.
Because he was a great Torah scholar, they took him into the caves in which the pious are interred in order to bury him there, but the caves did not accept him. A snake stood at the entrance of the caves and did not let them pass. They then took him into the caves of the judges, and they accepted him.”.
Reference. https://www.sefaria.org/Moed_Katan.17a.11
8. Talmud. If a Jew robs a gentile it is permitted in Sanhedrin 57a explained.
Talmud. “If a Jew does so (robbery) to a gentile, it is permitted?” (Sanhedrin 57a:14).
https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.57a.14
Read the verse before 57a:14. Sanhedrin 57a:4 says “The prohibition of robbery is stated” ... “This indicates that robbery is prohibited.”
The verse. Sanhedrin 57a:14 says “With regard to the following types of robbery”... “if they are done by a gentile to another gentile, or by a gentile to a Jew, the action is prohibited; but if a Jew does so to a gentile, it is permitted?”
Read the verse after 57a:14. Sanhedrin 57a:15 says “it is actually prohibited for a Jew to do so (robbery) to a gentile.
Reference. The Ten Commandments of Allaah include “You shall not steal” in Exodus 20:13 in Tanakh or Exodus 20:15 in Christian Bible and confirmed in Leviticus 19.11.
Exodus 21:16 and Deuteronomy 24:7 do not kidnap.
Video: Do Not Steal: The Eighth Commandment.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2260049/jewish/Do-Not-Steal.htm
9. Talmud. A gentile who hit a Jew is liable to receive the death penalty explained.
Slapping the cheek of a Jew is like slapped the cheek of Allaah in Sanhedrin 58b explained.
Talmud. “A gentile who struck a Jew is liable to receive the death penalty, as it is stated when Moses saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew.” (Sanhedrin 58b:17).
https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.58b.17
“One who slaps the cheek of a Jew is considered as though he slapped the cheek of Allaah” (Sanhedrin 58b:18).
https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.58b.18
Meaning. The Talmud does not say that this death penalty comes from a human court instead Maimonides says that this death penalty comes from the hand of Allaah.
Purpose of story. This story explains the death of an Egyptian who hit a Hebrew man.
The Egyptian died by the hand of Allaah through the hand of Moses.
Allaah called Moses “Allaah” in Exodus 7:1 because the word of Allaah came out of the mouth of Moses.
Man is created in the “image of Allaah” therefore when the Egyptian who did not believe in Allaah hit a Hebrew man it is said to be like hitting Allaah meaning hitting a Hebrew man who believes in Allaah brought a punishment that came not from a human court but from the hand of Allaah through the hand Prophet Moses.
Reference. In Exodus 7:1 Moses is called Allaah because the word of Allaah will come from Allaah out of the mouth of Moses and the judgement of Allaah will come from Allaah through the hand of Moses.
Video: Rabbi Tovia Singer: Was The Messiah called Allaah in the Bible?
Anyone or anything that represents Allaah in the Tanakh Jewish scripture is called Allaah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ6zGqfnKyM
10. Talmud. Gentiles are compared to animals in Yevamot 98a explained.
Talmud. “With regard to Egyptians: ‘Whose flesh is the flesh of donkeys, and whose semen is the semen of horses”(Ezekiel 23:20), i.e., the offspring of a male gentile is considered no more related to him than the offspring of donkeys and horses” (Yevamot 98a:3).
https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.98a.4
Meaning. It is through the biological father through which tribe is inherited in Judaism.
It is through the mother that the religion of Judaism is inherited.
In Judaism if identity is known then paternity is recognized by observing prohibitions of intercourse with forbidden paternal relatives and other laws that might not be observed outside Judaism.
Purpose of story. To know the identity of the mother and the father is important in Judaism as well as observing other laws of paternity which might not be important in other communities outside Judaism.
Marriage within Judaism passes Jewish identity to the next generation.
Marriage outside Judaism might cause the loss of Jewish identity in the next generation.
Reference. Ezekiel 23:20.
Ezekiel 23:20 And she lusted on concubinage with them (Egyptians), whose flesh (penis) is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue (semen) is like the issue of horses.
11. Talmud the oven of Akhnai.
Talmud Bava Metzia 59
Talmud Bava Metzia 59a-b
Talmud the rabbis defeated Allaah.
Talmud the rabbis triumphed over Allaah.
Talmud Allaah said “My children have triumphed over Me.”
a. In Bava Metzia 59a-b of the Talmud the rabbis judge that a new type of oven is ritually (religious) impurity and cannot be used for cooking but one rabbi argues it is ritually (religiously) pure and can be used for cooking.
When Allaah says “My children have triumphed over Me” it means that all the miracles which Allaah allowed one rabbi to do including making a tree rise into the sky and making water flow backwards and making the walls of their building begin to fall and making the voice of Allaah speak from heaven saying “Why are you argue with Rabbi Eliezer when you know in these matters he is always right” did not move the majority of rabbis away from following their correct majority judgement meaning Allaah was testing the rabbis to see if they would change their decision in a test described in 1 Kings 13:14 - 13:24 which teaches humans not to believe that the word of Allaah has changed even if a prophet tells you it has and in the test described in Deuteronomy 13:2 – 13:4 teaching humans not to believe that Allaah has changed His words even if a person can do miracles meaning let nothing allow you to believe that the teachings of Allaah have changed meaning every human should know and believe that the teachings of Allaah will never change and know that Allaah tests people with other people who claim Allaah has changed His word.
In the Talmud Allaah is confirming that the word of Allaah will not change meaning it will always be the majority opinion which humans must follow when they ask for a religious opinion from the rabbinic judges in their time.
Deuteronomy 17:8 - 17:13 says ask the priests about things you do not know or about controversial matters and do what the priests tell you.
Deuteronomy 17:8 If there arise a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood (ritually clean) and blood (ritually unclean blood in menstruation), between judgement (of innocence) and judgement (of guilty), and between (ritually clean) lesion and (ritually unclean) lesion, words of dispute (controversy) in your cities; then you shall arise, and go up to the place which the LORD your Allaah chooses.
Deuteronomy 17:9 And you shall come to the priests (the descendants of Aaron in Exodus 28:4) the Levites (Exodus 4:14 and I Chronicles 23:14), and to the judge that shall be in those days (in which you are living); and you shall inquire; and they shall tell you the words of judgment.
Deuteronomy 17:10 And you shall do according to the word they tell you, from that place which the LORD shall choose; and you shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you.
Deuteronomy 17:11 According to the law which they shall teach you, and according to the judgment which they shall tell you, you shall do; you shall not turn aside from the word which they tell to you, to the right, nor to the left.
Deuteronomy 17:12 And the man that intentionally does not obey the priest that stands to minister there before the LORD your Allaah, or to the judge, that man shall die; and you shall abolish evil from Israel.
Deuteronomy 17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and they shall no longer act intentionally (against the commandment of Allaah).
b. Why did Allaah decree the oral law in Deuteronomy 17:8 - 17:13?
In the Talmud Eruvin 21b:8 “be careful of making many books (sefarim) because there is no limit (to the number of books that can be written as each new generation asks new questions to the Sages as commanded in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13): needing much study and causing weariness of the flesh” as explained in Ecclesiastes 12:12.
In the Talmud Eruvin 21b:9 “In case you say: If the words of the Sages are of substance and have such great importance, why were they not written in the Torah, therefore, the verse states: “Of making many books there is no end,” meaning that it is impossible to fully commit the Oral Torah to writing as it has no limit (because each new generation has new questions and this is why Allaah has decreed the oral law in Deuteronomy 17:8-17:13).”.
c. When a rabbi made miracles happen as proof his opinion was correct Allaah was again teaching that the word of Allaah will not change.
Deuteronomy 13:2 If there comes in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
Deuteronomy 13:3 and the sign or the wonder happens and then he spoke to you saying: "Let us go after other gods (not the one Allaah but a Allaah who is “three in one”), which you have not known, and let us serve them (not the one Allaah but a Allaah who is “three in one”)';
Deuteronomy 13:4 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your Allaah is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your Allaah with all your heart and with all your soul.
d. The lesson is that what is in the Torah will never change and do not listen to anyone who claims by any means that the word of Allaah has changed even if they claim to be a prophet who tells you that Allaah has changed His word do not believe him because Allaah is only testing you in a test described in 1 Kings 13:14 - 13:24 and Deuteronomy 13:2 – 13:4.
e. In the same way as Allaah showed Allaah agreed with the words which came out from the mouth of Abraham which questioned the correctness of Allaah killing innocent people together with guilty people in Sodom the Talmud discussion confirms that the laws of the Torah will never be cancelled meaning never believe anyone who claims the Torah laws are obsolete and will soon fade away because what Allaah has decreed forever cannot be cancelled meaning Allaah decrees in Deuteronomy 17:8 - 17:13 that humans ask the rabbis about things they do not know or about controversial matters and do what the rabbis tell you.
Video: Lo Bashamayim Hi (it’s not in heaven): The Oven of Achnai (Babylonian Talmud, Bava Metzia 59).
Deureronomy 30:12 says The law (Torah) is not in heaven where no one can see it meaning the law (Torah) is on the Earth for humans.
Deuteronomy 17:8 - 17:13 says Allaah gave responsibility for the law to the priests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al4FgjbUztI
12. Jesus in the Talmud.
Is Jesus in the Talmud?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVr6ouBA-3Q
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