Link to the Sound File: Click on the link below to get to a page where there is a sound file of this interview segment.
https://soundcloud.com/miluk-org/white-2-lhm-interview/s-XXFSB
Instant Phonetic Englishization: Like the English word ‘cuss’, for Lolly’s shorter version of the word.
Annie’s q is made farther back in the throat.