Lying Down
This interview segment is from relatively early in the interview at 17:58 to 18:03, in the overall sound file of the interview, in spite of being alphabetized before its twin segment “Laying Down”, which is from late in the interview at 57:12.50 to 57:18.50, in the overall sound file of the interview.
Instant Phonetic Englishization: Tseem. Try saying ‘its seam’ as one word and then leaving off the beginning vowel.