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A new world record (not for long, sorry)

First of all: Matt made a new world record at "Special by Xinfe" (!), you can download the race here.

And I have posted a new video at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSLBmZbZdBM&fmt=18

You can see my best race at Alpine Hard on the left route, in the background Oleg's best race on the world record route, both races in exactly the same time: 1.12.40. You can also see a lot of additional landmarks which don't belong to the original track, but help me and you to find and see the best route.

You can download both 1.12.40 races at www.supreme-snowboarding.tk in the "Hall of Fame" (to find my 1.12.40 race, click "sorted by date").

Perhaps you are interested in a package with folders for all world record races and your own best races. Please use only the track names in this package: http://ssb.bplaced.net/folders_for_races.rar.

Michael

The Supreme Snowboarding 1.035A is currently in beta testing stage...

I have to check the compatibility with mk's installers and so on (One thing must already be unaccurate : text entries in the main menu as I have edited one). The changelog is quite impressive.

Then, I will have to create a real installer with reg entries.

Everything is my own work, but I would like to integrate mk's fast luncher as default Supreme.exe. Display_config would be lunched at the end on the install process.

So, still some work ahead, but not that much compared to what I have done. I might also work on an optimized version of Special Tracks Installer.

I will finish my track on this version : it will be a relevent testing.

Here is my result of converting Alpine_Easy.bin to BMP file (the BMP file format was taken from Wikipedia). What it could be?

http://angelam.ho.ua/Temp/Alpine_Easy_bin.bmp

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Originally Posted by OlegM (Post 11425296)

Here is my result of converting Alpine_Easy.bin to BMP file (the BMP file format was taken from Wikipedia). What it could be?

Whatever it is, it is beautiful. Beautiful modern art. But I don't recognize anything. :-)

Which tool did you use to create this?

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11426084)

Whatever it is, it is beautiful. Beautiful modern art. But I don't recognize anything. :-)

Which tool did you use to create this?

I use my brain and hands.:D

If you want I can transform materials.bin files for you.

P.S. I've updated the picture. I've learned that it should be upside down.

On a completely unrelated topic, I am now #1 on 5 tracks! Make that 6!

Alpine Medium 1.22.41

Practice iciagogo v2 35.05

Special 4 by Mr K 1.06.31

Mogul Slope v2 1.45.56

Special by Xinfe 1.08.11 AND

Alpine Medium v2 1.08.09

They are all MINE!!

I love that picture Oleg, it is awesome :up:

No clue what it is though.

To my special track:

Looking at Mogul Slope, Alpine Medium/Hard v2, it is completely unrealistic, like my special track, my special track could be an 'extra' like that.

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Originally Posted by OlegM (Post 11426120)

I use my brain and hands.:D

If you want I can transform materials.bin files for you.

P.S. I've updated the picture. I've learned that it should be upside down.

What a nice picture. I vote 5 points. You are a strong competitor for your wife.

But you should send an e-mail and tell me more. Perhaps my brain can help.

Matt, you listed 4 world records, which is obviously not 5. And you posted the same content twice.

You can be happy that there is summer in Europe! We are now more interested in holidays, sun, water, beachball. However, your world records will be smashed. Later.

You are right that some tracks are not realistic. However, you can fall wherever you want on these tracks and continue without problem. This is not possible at your track (I have sent you a video). And I agree with what Xinfe already said above.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11426253)

You are right that some tracks are not realistic. However, you can fall wherever you want on these tracks and continue without problem. This is not possible at your track.

I haven't configured the AI paths, once you configure that it should go fine. I admit the landscape is random, it is after all my first attempt of a special track. I'll think I'll stick with conquering other special tracks, and leave the making for the pros.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11426253)

You listed 4 records...

Acknowledged and changed.

For the image, I guess that some unwrapping is needed. For exemple, when there is a gradient from color A to B, and restarts from A to B, I guess that the first B and the second A are neraly the same value. It's a king of "Out of bounds loop" if you see what I mean.

When I am back, I'll try to create some bin files for Oleg.

To Oleg, you are doing a great work !

If you want, I can explain how to convert back material_map.bin, material_map.bin1, material_map.bin2 and material_map.bin3 to the related tga textures maps.

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Originally Posted by xinfe (Post 11426660)

For the image, I guess that some unwrapping is needed. For exemple, when there is a gradient from color A to B, and restarts from A to B, I guess that the first B and the second A are neraly the same value. It's a king of "Out of bounds loop" if you see what I mean.

When I am back, I'll try to create some bin files for Oleg.

To Oleg, you are doing a great work !

If you want, I can explain how to convert back material_map.bin, material_map.bin1, material_map.bin2 and material_map.bin3 to the related tga textures maps.

Thanks.

I didn't understand anything about gradients...

I would like to know any details of the game, inculding the algorithm of converting BIN to TGAs. To "convert" the BIN to BMP I just add the header with appropriate data (it includes h-size, v-size, full size of file and of image, amount of bits per pixel (32) etc. Then each "pixel" is 4 bytes of data from BIN file. Now I see that there are only several colors, but what do they mean? TGA file would be great instead.

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11426259)

I haven't configured the AI paths, once you configure that it should go fine. I admit the landscape is random, it is after all my first attempt of a special track. I'll think I'll stick with conquering other special tracks, and leave the making for the pros.

Matt, you can expect an improved Object_Data.txt for your track until Friday. I have already fixed the safety splines and need some time to test everything. And I think I will also make the AI paths until Saturday and an installer until Sunday. And on Monday I will add your track to the Hall of Fame. The track is better than I thought!

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Originally Posted by xinfe (Post 11426660)

If you want, I can explain how to convert back material_map.bin, material_map.bin1, material_map.bin2 and material_map.bin3 to the related tga textures maps.

That would be great!

New Decision

Hey Guys,

I left myself a hard decision, and I've decided to continue my special track creating career, but part-time, after all, I have to defend my newly claimed turf. :D

At the moment, I am making a pretty cool track, it will take time though, it is troublesome trying to make it realistic. Wish me luck!

I am looking forward to the outcomes of these new-coming tracks as well, should be great!

One problem that should be addressed:

HOW DO I CHANGE THE GROUND TEXTURE?? I have a spot of ice slicing through a vital part of my track, and is very annoying. How do I change it? It is very annoying. Removing soil would help, but is not vital.

To Xinfe,

Nice work for all the work you've been doing! The tutorial is very helpful. :up: If you had any replays I would make videos for you, but unfortunately, you don't. Time to start! :D Also, the link to my Hall of Fame goes to the long URL, my new URL is mattslee.tk thanks to Oleg.

In the meantime the corresponding key (x,y, or z), what is the corresponding key? I have objects to change.

My Other Special Track:

I was thinking of a cool name for it, what about the Hurricane Horror by Matt, or the Hurricane Zone by Matt, Danger Zone by Matt etc.

Thanks Guys :cool:

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11428805)

I was thinking of a cool name for it, what about the Hurricane Horror by Matt, or the Hurricane Zone by Matt, Danger Zone by Matt etc.

I have already decided to publish the track as "Special by Matt Village". And the world record ins mine, since tonight. Absolutely unbeatable 1.36.36, a world record for eternity. :up:

However, forget hunting for new records, because we (Oleg and myself) will probably change a bit of the landscape. But only a little bit.

Matt, would you allow someone else to change your track completely? If he or she wants to?

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11428868)

I have already decided to publish the track as "Special by Matt Village". And the world record ins mine, since tonight. Absolutely unbeatable 1.36.36, a world for eternity. :up:

As a matter of fact, I have beaten that by a fair bit, but I'm don't know if it qualifies on this 'new' version.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11428868)

Matt, would you allow someone else to change your track completely? If he or she wants to?

As long as it's named differently, go for it!

Hi there,

Sorry, that i´m very late with uploading the Track.

But i was away from home.

Cheers,

DeJogg

PS: Look at PM.

PPS: If you dont have the PM from me, write one to me and i will write back.

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Thank you, DeJogg!

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11429880)

All changed or new files are here (1.5 MB).

The link is a dead end. Is there a rapidshare file or some other alternative?

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11432040)

False.

True, can you email me the file?

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11432040)

On your website I can read: "Updated 17 August 2009". But what is updated? Shall we check all 200 pages?

Fair point, I'll make a small page for that, if you've noticed all of the links up the top are GONE!! A friend of mine taught me how to do that, only the necessities are there.

Overlooked Point:

HOW DO I CHANGE ICE TO SNOW?? Would really like to know.

Thanks

I am now on holliday, for 3 and a half week, with my bike and friends in france.:up: :cool:

@mattrocks_slee: mk could send you the file.

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Originally Posted by DeJogg (Post 11432138)

I am now on holliday, for 3 and a half week, with my bike and friends in france.:up: :cool:

HAVE FUN! :D

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Originally Posted by DeJogg (Post 11432138)

@mattrocks_slee

My name is Matt, mattrocks_slee is my username.

I can get the objects, but not the landscape.

To mk:

I fixed the problem, it was a Mac OSX internet plug-in error

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Originally Posted by OlegM (Post 11426786)

I didn't understand anything about gradients...

http://xinfe.free.fr/SupremeSnowboar...ges/unwrap.png

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11426835)

That would be great!

Simple example : Alpine Easy

Start the editor (AJA E), go to material editing (F7 and F5), and press Backspace : it will rewrite the original TGA files used for the land materials. Please notice that the original TGA files are about 10MB, and the three Material_Map.binX are less than 3MB (for the group, not each). So, good thing to lighten tracks.

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11428805)

HOW DO I CHANGE THE GROUND TEXTURE?? I have a spot of ice slicing through a vital part of my track, and is very annoying. How do I change it?

There are two solutions :

1. Manually edit the TGA files

2. Paint (like in any other paint program) the material you want to paint (or erase). For your ice spot, try the square brush, opacity set to 1, and "erase" "Ice00 material". Save (Backspace or Ctrl+S). Remove the four files beginning with Material_map.bin and reload your track. The material should have been replaced by snow.

To Xinfe,

Nice work for all the work you've been doing! The tutorial is very helpful. :up:

I'm glad and happy, then. :)

In the meantime the corresponding key (x,y, or z), what is the corresponding key? I have objects to change.

I understand nearly nothing.

Answers in the quote.

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11432104)

HOW DO I CHANGE ICE TO SNOW?? Would really like to know.

Answers in the previous quote.

I hope that will help.

About DeJogg training track : nice track ! Really nice track. there are some little mistakes, but nothing really troubling. I have created a map for this track. It's quite ugly because I haven't reworked it, but it's still better than the original one. Here is the link.

Nice modification for the Forest tracks. I'll wait till the official release to test them more deeply.

My Special Track

Thanks Xinfe, worked like a charm.

If I wanted to add soil, is this the technique I would use?

To mk:

Could you send me the final version of my track? Should be great!

Another question:

How do I make a custom banner, I want a couple of checkpoints with mattslee.tk on it.

Thanks

If you want to paint something other than snow, erase any previous material (to get snow), and change the brush to "paint" mode.

Draw you new material, save, remove the material_map.binX and reload. It should work.

For a custom banner, you have to create a 256x256px jpg file. Drop it in the folder objects/banner_texture.

To finish, edit /General/Object_Classes.txt, and add at the end :

Quote:

Animated_Mesh_Texture {

uniform_scale = 1;

loc = {0,0,0};

level_inclusion_mask = -1;

offset = {0,0,0};

quat = {1,{0,0,0}};

melt_height = 0;

filename = "path to your banner texture";

idx = 24;

};

Please let us download the jpg file so we can add it easily to any kind of patch/installer.

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11435137)

How do I make a custom banner, I want a couple of checkpoints with mattslee.tk on it.

Tell me how you want it and I will make it for you.

Matt, I cannot make the AI paths for your Village track. I need 33 different AI paths on all possible routes to make it a race track for the Full version. The original Village Easy has 33 AI paths, your track would replace Village Easy because it is based on it, and so I need 33 challenging AI paths, and the most should be without any fall. But it is very, very difficult to finish races at your track without fall. I would need many hours, or even half a day! So I cannot do it. You have to make it if it ever shall be a race track for the Full version. Good luck.

Updates

Hi all,

as of today I will inform about updates on a new page: http://ssb.bplaced.net/update.htm

I think there will be a lot of updates in the next weeks. Just now I work at all new tracks. Check this page daily for news.

The first updates are now available.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11435210)

Tell me how you want it and I will make it for you.

A gradient blue with the writing mattslee.tk (writing whatever looks best). If you could do that it would be great!

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11435210)

Matt, I cannot make the AI paths for your Village track. I need 33 different AI paths on all possible routes to make it a race track for the Full version. The original Village Easy has 33 AI paths, your track would replace Village Easy because it is based on it, and so I need 33 challenging AI paths, and the most should be without any fall. But it is very, very difficult to finish races at your track without fall. I would need many hours, or even half a day! So I cannot do it. You have to make it if it ever shall be a race track for the Full version. Good luck.

Ok... that will take a VERY long time. Couldn't you save .dat files as AI paths? If so we could just send in 5 replays each without fall. I'll hop to this daunting task as soon as possible.

Bad & Good News

Hi Matt and Xinfe,

I have decided to NOT make a banner for Matt.

Because all banners have to be defined in the file Object_Classes.txt in the folder \Data\General. But a modified Object_Classes.txt is already in nearly all of my official installers, and I would have to change all installers. That's not what I want.

Xinfe, you told Matt to overwrite your Xinfe logo with Matt's banner. idx = 24; is already defined, that's your own logo at "Special by Xinfe". So Matt cannot use it.

I ask both of you to use the objects only which are already defined. And I'd like to ask all of you to not change anything in the file Object_Classes.txt, to avoid confusion and crashes.

"Practice by DeJogg" can now be used as Practice, Air and Race track. I have finished the bug-fixes and the AI paths, the package in on my new Updates page: http://ssb.bplaced.net/update.htm

The current version of "Special by Matt Village" will be online on Sunday. Matt, it is not possible to save race dat files as AI paths.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11437836)

I have decided to NOT make a banner for Matt.

That's okay, that was an added bonus.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11437836)

"Practice by DeJogg" can now be used as Practice, Air and Race track. I have finished the bug-fixes and the AI paths, the package in on my new Updates page: http://ssb.bplaced.net/update.htm

One thing I noticed about Practice by Dejogg is it has no second checkpoint (or I kept missing it) so I added it at the finish line, so my saved data will appear different.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11437836)

The current version of "Special by Matt Village" will be online on Sunday. Matt, it is not possible to save race dat files as AI paths.

I found that out when I crashed the game :noob:

I am not doing anything towards my old special track... for the moment anyway. I am paying more attention to 'Survivor' by Matt. It is nearly ready for beta-testing. By the end of the week I should be able to produce it, keeping in mind I do test the realism a bit, but not to an extent. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks

DeJogg's modifications

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11437873)

One thing I noticed about Practice by DeJogg is it has no second checkpoint (or I kept missing it) so I added it at the finish line, so my saved data will appear different.

Matt, are you a little bit blind?

What do you think: Why am I working at "Practice by Dejogg"? Why do I post a new Object_Data.txt for "Practice by Dejogg" at http://ssb.bplaced.net/update.htm?

You don't have to change anything in the Object_Data.txt. Just download my updates. Of course with a new Checkpoint 2. And with many more improvements. The new official Object_Data.txt for "Practice by Dejogg" is on my Udates page.

I have also removed 2 of 3 Finish lines. If you have already saved races at "Practice by Dejogg", you can now delete them, because you crossed the wrong Finish line.

___

An information to all who have DeJogg's files:

DeJogg created new big tga files for Forest Easy, to be copied to the Forest Easy folder. Later you can restore the original Object_Data.txt and height_delta.bin of Forest Easy, but the big tga files are still there! These big tga files probably change something at Forest Easy. So far I cannot see what, but please be careful and don't forget: A Forest Easy with additional tga files in the Forest Easy folder is NOT the same as the original Forest Easy without tga files! It is a different track, even if you don't see the difference.

I also have to check DeJogg's modification of Forest Medium. There could be a similar problem at Forest Medium.

Just check my Updates page for updates.

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Originally Posted by michael.tk (Post 11437836)

Because all banners have to be defined in the file Object_Classes.txt in the folder \Data\General. But a modified Object_Classes.txt is already in nearly all of my official installers, and I would have to change all installers. That's not what I want.

Why do you have Object_Classes in each installer. Just the addon needs it

Xinfe, you told Matt to overwrite your Xinfe logo with Matt's banner. idx = 24; is already defined, that's your own logo at "Special by Xinfe". So Matt cannot use it.

The Idx is a mistake : it was not intended to overwrite my banner. Idx 25 is fine then.

I ask both of you to use the objects only which are already defined. And I'd like to ask all of you to not change anything in the file Object_Classes.txt, to avoid confusion and crashes.

The original file IS buggy and creates crashes. If Matt's banner is available before I release the 1.035A version, it will be included. I still have some things to fix (about Display_Config) : the dropdown boxes are messed up. So we can't see anymore the entries.

See in the quote.