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Windows 7

Xinfe,

I'm afraid you have a problem. Windows 7 isn't as good as Windows XP and/or Vista (never tried it). It has less capabilities and costs more computer usage to run. I have two hard drives in my computer with Windows 7 and XP. To run Supreme Snowboarding you'll need lower graphics and errors are frequent. Direct x6/7 is not compatible with Windows 7 which is half the problem, the other half could possibly be your video card. Windows 7 disagreed with our video card. Basically, GO BACK TO WINDOWS XP! It's better, easier and runs quicker. Windows 7 does have it's advantages though, like, ummm. You can think of that one.

To all,

With difficulty I have restored the Hall of Fame, it is at the website below.

Re:

@ Xinfe: DirectX6 is what you always have to select at 98, XP or Vista. Nothing else but DirectX6. I do not know Windows 7.

So you could make a Windows 7 Patch! Perhaps similar to the Wine Patch.

mk

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11321552)

Xinfe,

I'm afraid you have a problem. Windows 7 isn't as good as Windows XP and/or Vista (never tried it). It has less capabilities and costs more computer usage to run. I have two hard drives in my computer with Windows 7 and XP. To run Supreme Snowboarding you'll need lower graphics and errors are frequent. Direct x6/7 is not compatible with Windows 7 which is half the problem, the other half could possibly be your video card. Windows 7 disagreed with our video card. Basically, GO BACK TO WINDOWS XP! It's better, easier and runs quicker. Windows 7 does have it's advantages though, like, ummm. You can think of that one.

No, Seven is based on the same architecture devlopped for Vista. The core is the same, but optimized. Moreover, it runs much faster than Seven.

Also, I found out that Vista/Seven were fare more stable than XP. You just need a time of adaptation, but after, everything is good. For exemple, I can't forget the new taskbar in Seven, it's just a revolution !

Untill Seven, I have never supported Windows, but this OS (Seven) is a good one.

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Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11321585)

@ Xinfe: DirectX6 is what you always have to select at 98, XP or Vista.

So you could make a Windows 7 Patch! Perhaps similar to the Wine Patch.

I'm sorry, but as I already have reported a few pages before, I can't have Supreme run right in DX6/7 with Vista. Same Windows core, same problem.

The only solution I found is using OpenGL, even if it's to be vistualised or whatsoever.

I have tried different configurations, compatiblity options, but even the menu is buggy.

For the black objects, same problem and same solution : the Wine patch correct an error with some TGA files using OpenGL, so it also works. That's why it's not really a Wine patch, but a OpenGL patch instead.

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Originally Posted by xinfe (Post 11322714)

... but as I already have reported a few pages before, I can't have Supreme run right in DX6/7 with Vista. Same Windows core, same problem.

The only solution I found is using OpenGL, even if it's to be vistualised or whatsoever. ...

Ok, this information is new for me.

And we should never forget that the game was made for Windows 98. It is not easy to run the game on every OS.

I found out that from XP to Vista the fog disappeared. You know that my Add-on installs the additional graphics option "Fog". With this option you can see fog at Windows 98 and XP, but no longer at Windows Vista. So far I couldn't find a solution. I miss the fog at Windows Vista, perhaps anyone else has a solution.

I'm building everything for the MapEditor.

It's a lightweight customised updated upgraded and fixed version of Supreme.

I'll upload everything tomorrow because my home connexion is too slow.

EDIT : It seems that the upload is right :

Click for the linked page !

There is only the core game, 4 blanks levels (huge, medium, small and extrasmall), 1 test map which uses all ressources. It has benn a bit customised ;)

Now, I can make my videotut

EDIT2 : Page updated with a screenshot

EDIT 3 : I fear the tutorial will be longer to make. It's not that easy.

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Originally Posted by xinfe (Post 11322849)

I'm building everything for the MapEditor.

It's a lightweight ...

I am confused.

The Supreme Editor is also at www.supreme-snowboarding.tk / "Tips & Tricks" / "Cheats", and it is also at page 1 of this thread.

Yes, I still use the ingame editor, but i have lightweigtened the data folder, in order to speed up backups.

Also, if you mess up this "installation", the original game is and remains safe.

And to finish, there are special maps : some to check all supreme data, and others of different sizes for editing

For the video tutorial, I'll try to do it as soon as possible. Sorry for the lateness, but it's far more difficult than expected.

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Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11328350)

Xinfe, I do not know what I shall do with the content of your 7z file. I cannot see the use of it. Your package is confusing, including many files from installers on my .tk website which don't have to be in this package, and including many original files of the game. And I don't understand your five very simple tracks. And I miss an uninstaller.

Your manual is so far not more than the "Supreme Editor", a simple text document. I expected a little more. You already created tracks for the game, and so I thought you could describe step by step how you create a track, from the beginning to the end. This would be useful. Perhaps this is what you are already working at.

However, I don't ask you to invest more time. I probably won't understand it at all.

mk

EDIT: I will remove this post today or tomorrow.

This package is designed to be an Editor Version of Supreme. I mean that it includes some blanks to start the creation of a new track. You can edit whatever you want, I know that you are working on a kind of "backup". You don't have to fear to mess-up the real game.

Also, you are right because the package it updated and patched, whith some files coming from you site, including the 1.035 patch, the Addon (lightened), the Wine (OpenGL) patch. There is also other minor modifications.

That's especially true for the NoCD, et other bugfixes...

For the uninstaller, you don't need one, because you haven't used an installer. If you want to remove it, just remove the folder.

One more, I are right for the text document. It's a reference I have used. I've put it online because I haven't finished the video tutorial, and I have quite a lot of things to do.

I hove you'll understand my purposes.

EDIT : Also, I'll rework this package because I still have to change some things.

Alpine Hard

Hey Guys,

Nice work Xinfe for figuring out whatever you did (don't try and tell me, I've had no technology training), I caught on a bit.

The tutorial sounds great!

To all,

I have broken my alpine hard record (1.15.56). It is now an awesome 1.10.97! The video and replay is available on my website.

You guys should play the game more often! It seems like all your doing is editing and whatever else your doing!

Is there a guide on how to create a special track somewhere? I'm confused with the very thought!

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Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11331410)

You guys should play the game more often! It seems like all your doing is editing and whatever else your doing!

Is there a guide on how to create a special track somewhere? I'm confused with the very thought!

No, I won't play more often. I don't like doing always the same things. I don't specially want to break worlds records, and I probably can't.

I'm doing all I can do for a guide to create special tracks. That's what I've already released a special version of Supreme, with some blank maps to start with.

The video tutorial won't show the conception of a whole track, but only how to use the ingame editor, and explain every features.

I'll also show how to lighten the final track, how to create the map, and which files are needed to send the track.

Not that easy to do. And I'm also doing other things sideways.

Village Hard 0.58.25

Matt, do you give up?

I recommend to give up.

You can see my new 0.58.25 world record at YouTube, with your 0.59.09 in the background (blue jacket):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wh2EkZZtDQ&fmt=18

As I told you, I want to have minimum 8 of the 9. So you can have 1, but if you want to have 2, you will have 0. ;-)

Best regards,

mk

Here is the first version of my video tutorial.

Consider it as a "beta" tutorial : there are some problems. For example, material map edition don't work, I don't know why. It's the first time it happens to me. :sour:

The video is 20mn long, and fits in ~40MB.

Please report me what you would like to see added/improved in the final release.

It could be better to show the key presses, but I don't know how to do it...

If something isn't understandable, report it (for example, the time where it begins to be obscure)

And another time : don't mind the "Material map editing" part.

Hi Xinfe, first impression: GOOD!

I recommend to use the original colors, map.tga, Menu_Texture_Down.tga, Menu_Texture_Normal.tga, meter.tga and so on, and to select an English menu instead of your French menu. And the quality of the video (already good) could be a little better. It is hard for me to read the text.

I will need some days or weeks to give you a more detailed feedback. However: This is a good solution!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11339481)

I recommend to use the original colors, map.tga, Menu_Texture_Down.tga, Menu_Texture_Normal.tga, meter.tga and so on, and to select an English menu instead of your French menu. And the quality of the video (already good) could be a little better. It is hard for me to read the text.

Yes, you are probably right.

For the quality, I can upload a 1280x800px video, but it could cause some troubles for smaller screens and/or cause decoding lags.

As in France, it's a long WE, I will perhaps do another version on tuesday if I get enough feedback.

EDIT : The video HD is 20mn long, and fits in ~80MB.

New website dedicated to Supreme Snowboarding

Hi everyone !

The past week, I've spent much time working on Supreme. As you know, I have done the Supreme Snowboarding Editor Edition, and more recently, the video tutorial.

But, I have also created a new website dedicated to Supreme. It contains resources about the game, mirrors some files, and concentrate all my work about it.

You will find some general help on customizing the game, the links to the mains Halls Of Fame (no, it's not a duplication of what is currently existing).

I have linked some website useful :

• • Mk's site

  • Matt's site

  • Nearlucid's site

  • Some other site in other languages, or less important (Wikipedia, french forums...)

If you want me to add some, please feel free to contact me by email (page Contact)

The really unique part of the site is the "Tracks" section.

You will of course find links to special tracks, with a pack with all my finished officially released tracks, and also find some stuff about making tracks :

• • A quick reference guide, with an image showing all objects usable in a track and the light "manual" of the editor

  • The link to a page dedicated to the Supreme Snowboarding Editor Edition. You have probably already seen it on my googlepages.

  • A tutorial page, where you can find :

    • • The previously released video tutorial

      • The exclusive text tutorial, ready for about a year, but published only now

So, here we go ! If you have any suggestion, you are welcome !

Note : every page of my previous site (http://xinfe.free.fr/SupremeSnowboarding/) redirects on this new one.

A new era begins

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Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11337654)

Matt, do you give up?

I recommend to give up.

You think I would give up?! I'm just getting warming up! I was owning your Village Easy record by at least half-a-second but unfortunately overshot the landing and fell over. :( As you probably noticed I was with your record the WHOLE time, you just escaped at the ending i.e. better ending=better time!

Your going DOWN!

Matt

Matt, I can be faster. Also check the world records on the Special tracks.

Xinfe, good job!

mk

I have added in in the first page (http://sites.google.com/site/supremesnowboarding/) a box where the last news is shown.

If you want me write something (update on another site), email me for example.

Hi there,

Now i am still here.

I have built a nice track. (look at the Screenshots)

But how can i upload this, or how can you play my track?

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/fPnG1mGP.jpg

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/1jWHg0VT.jpg

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/44rgU11y.jpg

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/s4SJ2b9k.jpg

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/C5IjlFNy.jpg

http://www.LupiUpload.de/101124/53GjYHI.jpg

Cheers,

Joachim

Wow ! It seems to be a nice track !

If you want to upload it, you have to tell me which version of Supreme you have used, and which track has been used (Alpine/Forest/Village and Easy/Medium/Hard or even Training).

The easiest way (if you connexion allows it) is to pack the Levels folder (in Data), and send it via http://dl.free.fr. Then, we can work with it.

To send all the data, you can use this service. It is in french, but easy to understand :

• • Fichier à envoyer : File to send

  • Me notifier du lien par email : if you want to recieve an email containing the link of the uploaded file (optional)

  • Email 1-2-3 : To notify friends (optional)

  • Inclure le message suivant: Limité à 2000 caractères : If you want to add a message in the mail(s) (optional)

  • Proteger votre fichier par mot de passe: If you want a password protection (optional)

  • Envoyer : To send the file

You can upload up to 1GB of data using this method. Once the file is sent, there is an antivirus check. The last page displays the link to download the file, and another more complicated link to remove it. There is no limitation of bandwidth nor wait time before being able to download.

If you want to know which files you have to send, tell us which version of supreme you use, and what level you edit. (You can also give us a name to ease the sorting of the data)

FAST ACCESS

Hi all,

do you like to skip the disturbing menu "Startup Options"?

And do you want to have your own name as default player name?

Then you have to download http://ssb.bplaced.net/Supreme_FAST_ACCESS.rar

mk

Special Tracks

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeJogg (Post 11343866)

Hi there,

I have built a nice track. (look at the Screenshots)

When is this track available? It looks AWESOME!

Online Version

Hey Guys,

Is it possible to run a low quality, online version of Supreme Snowboarding? As in not Himachi (unsure spelling)?

Would it be possible if I 'install' the game on my mac and run the game on the internet in some way, would it work? Is it possible?

Could help a lot.

Matt

Hi Matt !

Why run a low quality version of the game, when the original can do it ?

The "network" is, for Supreme, the Local Area Network : for example, if at home you have several computers, they are connected in LAN.

If you want to play online with Supreme, you have to be in such a network. That can be done with Hamachi :

Install it (free), join the network "Boarder Zone", password "Vincent Reno".

You will join this fake local network, where there are other players.

For your mac, you can install the game either in a virtualized environment : parallels, virtual box or virtual pc will do the job : windows will run IN Mac os X. You can also use boot camp to install Windows next to Mac os X.

The solution for online networking is the same : make sure that Windows can access the net, and then install Hamachi...

About online gaming with Hamachi

Online gaming is easily possible with Hamachi installed. Hamachi is a program which simulates a local network. The installation is easy and self-explaining. Recommended version: Hamachi 1.0.1.5.

Installation:

a) Install and start Hamachi Basic. Create a new network, or join an existing network (see above). Open the chat window.

b) Install Supreme Snowboarding Full version and Add-on. Start the game. In the main menu of the game click "Network Race". One player has to "Start Server" and "Start Network Game", then all other players can "Join Network Game". During network races: "Esc" and "Return to track" is not allowed after falls.

Some more tips:

In online games each player should pick a different character. You can replace all characters of the game with "Vincent" or "Keith" in different colors with the installer modified_characters.exe (version September 1, 2007). You can find this installer at www.supreme-snowboarding.tk / "Characters". So any of you can select for example "Ulrika", but will not play with "Ulrika", but with a version of "Vincent" or "Keith" in different colors. Try it out!

To play the Special Tracks without crashes, you have to use one of my small installers: "modifications for online games" (version February 1, 2009):

http://ssb.bplaced.net/modifications...line_games.zip

As the title says: The modifications are for online games only. The modifications have no influence on the original tracks, but on many of the Special tracks, for example on "Special by fjguarino". This track has large TGA files in the "Special" folder, which cause crashes in online games. With my installer the TGA files will not be loaded, and so you can play the game online without crash. This option is for online games only, but NOT for hunting for new world records.

Hi folks !

As mk has said before, this thread can be removed by Atari whenever they want to.

Therefore, I have saved this whole thread to my site.

Soooo much work to make this backup usable...

Hamachi problem

I can start Hamachi and chat with Oleg M via Hamachi, but cannot play with him via Hamachi. He has XP, I have Vista. One of us starts the server at SSB, but the other one cannot see the server. Any idea?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattrocks_slee (Post 11349100)

When is this track available? It looks AWESOME!

Its not finish yet.

I think, it will be finished in 2 Weeks.

I will update you for updates. ^^

mk: I have no problems, and i (Vista) can play with my brother (Xp) very well.

(It is funny, if you have not the similar track. So sometimes, we are flying on the other screens :weird:)

Hamachi problem

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Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11352281)

I can start Hamachi and chat with Oleg M via Hamachi, but cannot play with him via Hamachi. He has XP, I have Vista. One of us starts the server at SSB, but the other one cannot see the server. Any idea?

I remember that I also played with my son (Vanish) over LAN, he has Vista, and I have XP. But we didn't use Hamachi because we were in one room and used wireless network.

DeJogg, did you use Hamachi to play with your brother?

The only problem was that I had to say my Norton Antivirus that it should allow the connection from Supreme.exe. I had to allow it on both computers. So, probably the problem with Vista is some kind of firewall turned on?

Also, in the most cases I used Hamachi v.1.0.1.5 to play online (other versions failed). But recently I played online with 2 people who didn't have this version. :confused:

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Originally Posted by xinfe (Post 11351751)

Soooo much work to make this backup usable...

Good job, Xinfe. If this thread will be removed you can restore it from backup :) ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubin (Post 11352281)

I can start Hamachi and chat with Oleg M via Hamachi, but cannot play with him via Hamachi. He has XP, I have Vista. One of us starts the server at SSB, but the other one cannot see the server. Any idea?

In one word : firewall ?

Make sure that Supreme executables are allowed to access the Internet.

Also, check if the Hamachi network is set to private (Home or Work) in Windows Vista or Seven.

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Originally Posted by DeJogg (Post 11352520)

Its not finish yet.

I think, it will be finished in 2 Weeks.

Good news !

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Originally Posted by OlegM (Post 11352625)

Good job, Xinfe. If this thread will be removed you can restore it from backup :) ;)

Thanks. My first try was too long to process, so I have changed of method. It took me half the time to process 2,5 more data.

Also, if someone wants to edit/remove a message, there is no trouble. Just email me and I'll do it as soon as possible.

I'm impressed with the number of messages posted the last few days, by more than 2 or 3 people. The community is reviving ! :)