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Music Interview: IMPALED NAZARENE
IMPALED NAZARENE
English Version:
PEACE vs. WAR
- Exclusive interview with IMPALED NAZARENE
by Demogorgon
Done in Oct. 2001
Published on the 7th issue of Extreme Music Magazine
Hell-o Mika!
It is my proud to interview a great band like Impaled Nazarene! I consider it our job to introduce your band to our readers, although we come from China.
Mika Luttinen: Well, hello China, it is nice to know that we are known even there!
First off, the lose of your rehearsal place in this May must has done harm to your record plan. But Absence of War does not Mean Peace still sounds good. Obviously the sound grown a lot... Did Anssi Kippo helped some?
Mika Luttinen: We were without a rehearsal place for a month or so. It did not affect our studio plans, we just rehearsed twice as hard once we got our new one. Absence...is definitely our best produced album. We spent much longer time in the studio this time. We didn´t mix this album at Astia but at Finnvox studio. Absence was mixed by Mikko Karmila, known world wide by his work with Stratovarius, Nightwish etc. He managed to make the sound much better than previously. Anssi Kippo was the main engineer and he did give some valuable ideas for us and he actually played two solos on the album.
The raw sound of Black Metal always owns much to Punk, but how did you decide to add so many Punk elements into Implaed Narzarene? Can you explain what the connection between Punk and Satan worship in you eyes?
Mika Luttinen: First of all, we are not worshipping satan at all. I use the word satan because we are anti-religious band and it us used as a metaphor for a man!!! Some of us are into bands like Extreme Noise Terror, Nausea, Ripcord etc and these bands have influenced our sound as well as Venom, Sodom, Kreator and Slayer to name a few. Impaled Nazarene is a band full of nihilists, we believe only in death and that´s all.
Implaed Narzarene's music is always fast and melodic, how important is it to you?
Mika Luttinen: Very important. When your band name is Impaled Nazarene, you know that you can expect fast and brutal metal music. I think this album contains all that but also much more dynamic approach than before.
Now more than ten years have passed, will Implaed Narzarene become seriouser and seriouser to its ideology (if I am not completely wrong)? it seems that bands like Implaed Narzarene have got many critics for plenty of words like Death, Satan, Fuck... I do not think the press have the same belief as us...
Mika Luttinen: In the end, what really matters for us is the rock´n´roll!!! We are of course serious band but some people seem to forget that this is entertaiment after all. We do have some topics that are close to us and since there is the freedom of speech, we can do it. I don´t care what the press or normal people think about this, we do marginal music for a small audience who understand this and that´s all what matters!
The world is in chaos now, then what's on Implaed Narzarene's horizon now?
Mika Luttinen: The usual. New album out soon means a lot of interviews, booking tours etc. It is very busy here at the moment. I am fucking excited about all this. I hope we can play in China one day!!!!!!
Hail to you and keep the horns up high!
Mika Luttinen: Thanks a lot my friend!!!!!
Chinese Version:
如果就某种意义而言，人类史即一部战争史，那么，没有战争的日子又会怎样？我们想不出，因为“缺少战争并不意味着和平”。
战争与和平
——IMPALED NAZARENE独家专访
文/Demogorgon
黑暗金属为我们所知晓只有不多几年的光景，它在世界范围内的发展历程便难以详述。因为，哪怕当我们在简单地用这一个字眼儿——黑暗金属——统称从VENOM到MARDUK到EMPEROR到CRADLE OF FILTH的大批乐团时，我们心里依然十分清楚：他们的音乐并没有太大的相近之处。夸张一些，即便在这同一名号下，乐队为自己理念中表达思想的正确音乐手法的选择与推广也在进行着或明或暗的斗争；即便在第二波黑暗金属浪潮正逐渐退去的新千年，圈中依旧没有和平的迹象。芬兰存在时间最长，也最有地位的黑暗金属乐队IMPALED NAZARENE（被钉的拿撒勒人）的第七张专辑正说明了这一点——《缺少战争并不意味着和平》。
结合了老朋克摇滚与经典金属的《缺少战争并不意味着和平》比IMPALED NAZARENE以前的专辑都要更旋律化，也更为简洁直率。乐队现今唯一的创始成员Mika Luttinen的嗓音一如既往地用每一个尖叫的音符释放愤恨，来自FINNTROLL的吉它手Teemu“Somnium”Raimoranta负责贝司和来自CHILDREN OF BODOM的吉它手/主唱Alek“Wild Child”Laiho的精彩吉它演绎更令诸如“The Lost Art of Goat Sacrificing（山羊祭祀的失落艺术）”，“Before the Fallout（放射性尘埃面前）”，“The Madness Behind（后面的疯狂）”的歌曲为IMPALED NAZARENE的前进加油。他们就是按照自己的规则玩着金属而毫不妥协。有谁听起来像IMPALED NAZARENE？又有谁敢听起来像IMPALED NAZARENE？
借专辑上市之机，我对这支有着十一年半历史，曾经在四大洲的二十四个国家进行过巡演的乐队做了专访。Mika“很高兴地得知甚至在那儿（中国）也有人知道我们（IMPALED NAZARENE）！”但是由于乐队一年半之前即对芬兰与挪威圈子间的恩恩怨怨做出了明确的解释——“我们并不（恨挪威黑暗金属）。不论我们在1992年说过什么都绝对不再有价值了。每个人都长大了，所以帮个忙忘了那些垃圾。已经过去八年了。”本次采访不是针对圈子，而主要是对IMPALED NAZARENE眼中黑暗金属理念的介绍，我们可以从侧面看到另一个没有和平的原因。
在IMPALED NAZARENE的历史中，乐队遇到过诸多挫折。从第三张专辑Suomi Finland Perkele中“Total War”一曲歌词而受到的抵制到1996年11月巴黎演出时遇到的破坏，从1997年9月Ugra-Karma专辑封套问题被指控到1997年7、8月间澳大利亚Wollongong演出受当地媒体与家长联合压制而取消（乐队历史上首次），从1995年8月进棚（Tico Tico）录制迷你CD Hammasna当夜贝司手Taneli Jarva与鼓手Kimmo“Sir”Luttinen冲突而使IMPALED NAZARENE打道回府（他们并不是敌人）到2000年4月“攻击弱者”（Assault the Weak）巡演中法国秘密警察的全程监视，从不休的人员更迭到2001年5月底排练场的丧失（只差两个月录音），不一而足。但是IMPALED NAZARENE却凭借着惊人的勇气坚持了下来。不再多说，排练场的问题是怎么解决的呢？
“我们差不多有一个月没有排练场。但它并没影响到我们的录音计划。找到新的以后，我们就尽力地排练了两次。”
《缺少战争并不意味着和平》听起来却更进步了……制作人和混音师是否有不小的帮助呢？
“《缺少战争并不意味着和平》”绝对是我们制作得最好的专辑。我们这次在录音室花了长得多的时间。我们没在Astia录音室混音，而是在Finnvox做的。混音师Mikko Karmila（STRATOVARIUS，NIGHTWISH等等）使得声音比以前好得多，而主工程师Anssi Kippo（CHILDREN OF BODOM，ENTWINE）不只给了我们一些有价值的建议，还在专辑里弹了两段独奏。”
IMPALED NAZARENE的音乐总是又快又有旋律，这对你一定很重要。
“十分重要。因为你的乐队名字是IMPALED NAZARENE，你就知道你能期待的是快速而且残忍的金属音乐。我想这张专辑包含了这一切，同时对活力也有较以往更多的考虑。”
IMPALED NAZARENE这个名字来自于Ellen Datlow的一本书。书中一个短故事里Lazarus被耶稣或是沿着那条路的某个东西变成了一个吸血鬼。因此，Mika自然而然地想到或许耶稣是个吸血鬼：当时的罗马士兵不是把他钉到十字架上而是像通常对待吸血鬼一样把他刺穿。于是有了IMPALED NAZARENE。
这是一个很“朋克”的想法，而事实上黑暗金属的粗糙声音的确欠了朋克一些东西。但是IMPALED NAZARENE是如何开始向音乐中加入那么多的朋克元素的呢？Mika眼中，这种音乐和撒旦崇拜到底有无关联？
“首先，我们根本不崇拜撒旦。我使用‘撒旦’这个字眼儿是因为我们是支反宗教乐队，它是个人的隐喻！！！”
“我们中间有些人深入例如EXTREME NOISE TERROR，NAUSEA，RIPCORD等等的乐队，而这些乐队和类似VENOM，SODOM，KREATOR和SLAYER一样影响了我们的声音，当然这里只提了很少的几个。IMPALED NAZARENE是支满是虚无主义者的乐队，我们只相信死亡，就这么多。”
这一点是确凿无疑的，哪怕它和外人眼里黑暗金属圈中乐队的作风颇有差异。很多黑暗金属乐团不是站在基督教定义的那个撒旦一方说话，而是压根儿不承认上帝的存在！Mika在《恐吓者》（Terrorizer）95期上说：“我曾经研习玄秘但是那绝对什么都没能带给我。二十六岁时我喜事到自己只是在浪费金钱！对我而言，大量这种玄秘狗屎就很像基督教的主张：只是让你相信一些并不存在的东西。”问到他对希特勒、斯大林、Croeley、LaVey等“敏感人物”的看法时，Mika的回答也极为简单且不失逻辑——
“我想他们都是很死的了。”
而今已经过了十多年的光阴，音乐界已时过境迁。IMPALED NAZARENE会对自己的理念越来越严肃吗？似乎像IMPALED NAZARENE的乐队都因为满口的Death，Satan，Fuck……而受到了很多批评。
“最终，和我们真正相关的是摇滚！！！我们当然是支严肃的乐队但有些人似乎已经忘记这归根到底是娱乐。我们是有些和我们很接近的话题而言论自由使得我们能这么做。我不关心媒体或者一般人怎么想，我们为一小群理解这个的听众制作小范围音乐，这就是一切！”
……世界陷于混乱，IMPALED NAZARENE面前还是一如既往的创作、录音、采访、巡演……2001年6月，在芬兰Turku的一场演出中，乐队六年来第一次回到自己刚开始的时刻 ——画着尸脸上台。或者这是一次新的开始？因为他们这六年中不化装是“因为它成了一个乏味的潮流。”娱乐，这毕竟是娱乐，希望这个态度能让Mika和 IMPALED NAZARENE的愿望成真——
“我愿我们有朝一日能到中国演出！！！！！！”
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