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Music Interview: DESTRÖYER 666
DESTRÖYER 666
English Version:
COLD STEEL
- Exclusive interview with DESTRÖYER 666
by Demogorgon & Glacier
Done in August 2002
Published on the 10th issue of Extreme Music Magazine
Cold steel, raspy ironware, I am talking about Australian Extreme Metal.
Cry of force, call of savagery, I am talking about DESTRÖYER 666.
AWARE! BEWARE! WAR!
The war that is so come
The beast in man has been caged far too long
No longer are we the wild wolves of old
The cross has taken our talons and taken our soul
The Eternal Glory Of War
- "The Eternal Glory of War", Violence is the Prince of this World
DESTRÖYER 666, 1995
It is my glory to do an interview with a great band like Deströyer 666! I am supporting the constantly growing of Chinese extreme music community and your band is absolutely the first Australia band be introduced to our readers. Please take our congratulation and say something to them first. We are eager to know what China is in your point of view!
1. At first, you do not want Deströyer 666 be labeled Black Metal, why? Although the song topics like Wolf, War, Violence and Indivadulism are definitly anti-christian, Cold Steel... for an Iron Age is another great war hammer smashing to any stupidity, includes christianity certainly...
S. Berserker: Well, it´s quite restricting to be potted into the one category in many ways, particularly from a creative perspective. In this day and age of the the extreme metal world each style is so fucken divided with each having it´s own set rules as to how that particular style can be played. Particularly when looking at the European scenes, this is also stretched out into the fan base. People are so particular as to what they listen to. But if we were just a Death metal band, then doing the odd epic song would probably seem out of place to your average Death metal fan, so I think with the styles that we mix we seem to have a quite varied audience. But as far as the ideology goes, ie. Anti-Christianity amongst other things, maybe that could be lumped into the "Black Metal" category, but as far as the music, we are just an extreme metal band.
2. Australia bands looks like possessed by War Metal, but Deströyer 666 step further. Could you give us a little bit of explaination? Could you please tell me something about Australia Metal scene... Is there a union among Australia Extreme Metal bands?
S. Berserker: Well, K.K. Warslut as most people know was involved with Bestial Warlust years back, which of course was total War Metal, but the reason he left to do D´666 was to do something beyond the War metal style, more catchy songs and the like, and the rest progressed naturally. I think "Cold Steel" definitely has some of the violent War Metal thing years later. But it is true that Australia has had some fucken brutal War metal style bands, it was started by the likes of Slaughter Lord and of course, Sadistik Exekution, this has carried on as a kind of tradition in the Aussie scene, but of course there are plenty of killer bands that you wouldn´t call War metal, take for example great bands like Gospel of the Horns & Vomitor, ripping metal the way it should be. There is quite a cool union between many bands in Australia.........
3. Then what does Metal mean to you? Musculism? Basic animal instinct? I suppose that it must has great difference with Rock, both in music and attitude, am I right?
S. Berserker: Aggression, Rebellion, Hedonism etc. and on the other side beers and a good time. It´s impossible to sum up the ethos of a style of music, but basically what I just said. That´s what´s so fucked about all these "rules" in the underground, metal was never about rules and regulations to me, that´s why I got into the shit. But, everyone of course has their own personal interperetation..............
4. Moonspell also use wolf and lycanthropy as their song topics, but in a quite different way. How do you think about them and their music?
S. Berserker: Not really familiar with them to be honest.
5. As K.K. Warslut once said, "It refers to how history is postulated as fact, when in fact it is one interpretation of an event. it makes it hard to learn anything of the truth or if you prefer the 'true' nature of the world. History books dictate the opinions and prejudices of the present. It's an obstacle worth looking behind."
It means the history books are not ture, so in your mind there must be a way to get the true history, would you tell me what it is? On the other hand, our present will be the history of future, what way is the better or the right way to transfer our times to the future ones?
S. Berserker: Well, like most things, you can only TRUST and more or less HOPE in what has been written. In my opinion, you can only obtain REAL 1st hand knowledge through personal experience. It is indeed a strong point that today´s events and big decisions are moulded by events that apparently happened in the past. Are we learning from our mistakes? Or is it all based upon a falsehood? It is hard to say. As for today? Anything can happen in future events and fuck knows how today will be written as history in the future...........
6. I do not think politics can change everything in your opinion, then what can do this task? Deströyer 666 or nothing?
S. Berserker: You can only influence people´s ideas with your own opinion, they can take it or fuck it.
7. "Knowledge is power and truth sets you free." But it seems that most people in modern society are satisfied to be sheep, do you think speak out your annoncement and tell them the truth do good to them?
S. Berserker: Again, you can only try to influence peoples ideas with your own opinions and interperetations, whether anyone accepts it or not is whether it seems logical to them. Unfortunately the media and religion seem to be the only "logical" answer for most people.
8. K.K.Warslut said in an interview with PRIMAL AGONY that "Personally I`ll never use that kind of recording technique again." And actually Deströyer 666 changed record studio, do you think it did any help?
S. Berserker: That was in reference to the way the drums were recorded on "Phoenix Rising". Yes it was done differently for "Cold Steel" and as you may notice it sounds alot more alive!
9. The release date of Phoenix Rising was largely delayed, this time they must did much better?
S. Berserker: Well "Phoenix..." was recorded before a deal was signed with a label to release it. Of course with all the negotiations and release schedules, this took up quite a bit of time before the album was actually released. This time ´round we were signed and the label organised the studio in accordance with their release schedule. Unfortunately it was too rushed this time, as a few things, including the CD cover came out incorrect.
10. You just finished attending No Mercy Festivals, thanks for your time! This interview will be published on my mag (Extreme Music) or become a part of my forthcoming book which covers the correlations between extreme Music, espeacilly Extreme Metal, and various Occultism, Satanism, and Paganism etc. I will be very pleased if you have interest, the decision is up to you! I like the statement "The coward lives for sixty years, and his limited vision sees it as a long life, while the brave man may not reach twenty years, but he becomes part of something that will last millenia."
Hail Deströyer 666 and long live Metal!
S. Berserker: Cheers, Metal, Sex & Sin.......................................................
Chinese Version:
冷钢
——DESTRÖYER 666独家专访
文/Demogorgon Glacier
冰冷的钢铁，粗糙的铁器。我们现在谈到的是澳大利亚极端金属。
武力的呐喊，野性的召唤。我们现在谈到的是DESTROYER 666。
1994年5月，从前CORPSE MOLESTATION（尸体调戏） / BESTIAL WARLUST（野兽般的战争欲望）的吉它手/创作者K.K. Warslut作出组建DESTRÖYER 666的决定。四个月后他和Abominator（憎恶者）的鼓手，Chris Volcano（克里斯·火山）记录下第一张小样《与恶魔的六首歌曲》（Six Songs with the Devil）。从前HOBB'S ANGEL OF DEATH的贝司手Bullet-Eater和主音吉它手Shrapnel（榴弹炮）正式加盟是在他们的首张专辑推出后的1996年10月，而乐团的战鼓从Chris Volcano传给Howitzer再到Deceiver（骗子），四根弦上的低音猛攻则由S. Berzerk接手。《冷钢……给一个铁器时代》（Cold Steel... for an Iron Age）继《凤凰飞升》（Phoenix Rising）之后成为这支伟大乐团对抗懦弱和愚蠢的再一次当头棒喝！能和S. Berserker交流探讨，我感到十分光荣！！
狼、战争、暴力和个人主义，诸如此类的歌曲主题绝对与基督教相左，但是为什么乐团不希望被打上黑暗金属的标签？在任何一个人看来，《冷钢……给一个铁器时代》都会是打在所有愚蠢的懦弱脸上的又一把巨大战锤，基督教理应在这个范围之内。
好的，被困在一个类型里很多方面来讲都很受束缚，特别是就一个透视角度看来。极端金属世界的这些日子和岁月中每种风格都是那么地彼此区分，各自都为某种特定的风格该如何演绎定下了各自的规则。尤其是在我们看欧洲圈子的时候，这个还绵延到了乐迷身上。对于听什么，人们那么挑剔。但是假如我们只是一支死亡金属乐团，那么做些特别的史诗歌曲就可能会对我们一般的死亡金属乐迷显得有些离谱，所以我认为依靠混合风格我们似乎可以有一个多样化的听众群。然而就理念而言，例如敌基督还有其它的一些，也许能被归到“黑暗金属”一类，但是就音乐而言，我们只是一支极端金属乐团。
K.K. Warslut 曾经在接受《基本痛苦》（Primal Agony）采访时说“个人而言我不会再使用那种录音技术了。”而且DESTRÖYER 666这一次的确换了录音室，你们感觉结果如何？
那是就《凤凰飞升》里鼓的录制方式而言。是的，那和《冷钢……给一个铁器时代》不一样，你能听得出来它感觉更有活力了！
《凤凰飞升》的发表日期被拖延了很长时间，这次公司做的怎么样？
好的，《凤凰飞升》录制于找到一家工作室签约并发表它之前。当然因为有着所有那些磋商和发行计划，专辑最后发表前就花了相当多的时间。这次我们已经签了约，工作室在保持与他们的发行计划和谐统一的情况下组织了录音室。不幸的是这次太紧张了，所以有些东西，包括CD封面出来时并不正确。
但是最终的视觉效果出人意料地好！现代社会中的孤独造就了乐团的耐性，冰天雪地里的狼群已经不再那么狂暴。似乎他们的音乐风格又有了进展……澳大利亚乐团对战争金属（War Metal）可谓情有独钟，而DESTRÖYER 666走的却更远一步。你可否给我们一点解释？给我们讲点澳大利亚金属界的事吧！
好的，正如众所周知，K.K. Warslut多年以来是随着BESTIAL WARLUST成长的，那是一支彻头彻尾的战争金属乐团，但是他离开而去开始DESTRÖYER 666是为了做一些超越战争金属风格的事，更抓人的歌曲还有诸如此类的事，其它的就自然而然地发展起来了。我想《冷钢……给一个铁器时代》在多年后最终还是有一些狂暴的战争金属的东西。但是说澳大利亚有一些他妈的残忍的战争金属风格的乐团是正确的，开始是些像SLAUGHTER LORD，当然还有SADISTIK EXEKUTION的乐团，这就在澳洲圈子里作为一种传统保持了下去，但是当然，也有大量你不会称之为战争金属的杀手般的乐团，其中精彩的例子就是像 GOSPEL OF THE HORNS和VOMITOR，用理所应当的方式将金属开膛破肚。在澳大利亚的众多乐团之间有着很酷的联合……
那么金属对你意味着什么呢？男子主义？基本的动物本能？我感觉金属和摇滚有着区别，不只是在音乐上，也是在态度上。
激进，反叛，享乐主义等等。另一方面还有啤酒和快乐的时光。累数一种音乐风格的精神是不可能的，但是基本上就是我所说的这些。那就是地下所有他妈的“规则”，金属对我而言从来都与规则和条令无关，我就为的这个才进来的。但是，每个人都有他们自己非常个人化的解释……
MOONSPELL（月咒）也在他们的歌曲里使用狼和人狼变形作意象，但是和你们有着相当大的区别。你对他们和他们潮流化的音乐有什么看法？
坦诚而言，的确不太熟悉他们。
正如K.K. Warslut以前说的：“这涉及到历史是如何被设定为事实的，而实际上它是一个事件的翻译。这使得研习有关真实的一切还有你是否倾向于世界的‘真实’自然都很困难。历史书独裁了现实的观点和见解。这是一种阻碍，值得看看它后面是什么的。”
你们的意思是史册并不真实，那么按照你们的想法一定有某种方法可以得知真实的历史，能告诉我它是什么吗？与此同时，我们的现实将会成为明日的历史，在将其转换的过程中该怎么做才更好，或者说是正确呢？
好的，就像很多东西，你只能相信并且或多或少地希望什么会被写下。就我的观点而言，你只能通过个人经历获取真正的一手资讯。有一个真的十分强力的观点就是今天的事件和重大决定明显是有着发生在过去的事件的构成。我们正在从自己的错误中学习到什么吗？还是这些全都基于一种虚假性？很难说。今天？在未来事件中什么都能发生，而谁他妈的也不知道今天会在未来被怎样地写作历史……
在乐团看来政治是不可以改变一切的，那么存在什么可以达到这一目的吗？DESTRÖYER 666或者……根本就没有可能？
你只能通过你自己的主张影响别人，他们可以接受也可以fuck it。
“知识就是力量，真理给你自由。”但是似乎现在社会中的很多人都满意于平静的生活，你们是否认为对着他们发出宣言，告诉绵羊事实对他们会是好事吗？
重复一次，你们只能试着用你们自己的想法和见解去影响人们，他们是否会接受则取决于这是否对他们合情合理。不幸的是媒体和宗教似乎就是大多数人的唯一“合理”答案。
我喜欢KK Warslut的宣言“懦夫活了六十年，他短浅的眼光就把这看成是活的长了，但勇者可能还活不到二十年，他却能成为可持续千年之事物的一部分。”
向DESTRÖYER 666致敬！金属万岁！
谢谢，Metal, Sex & Sin.......................................................
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