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The Search for Nicholas de la Pomeray 1113 to 1293
around 30 years after Domesday
A Puzzle yet to be solved - A work in progress
commenced
23 Aug 2025
In 1262 Margaret Montegue held the advowson of Warblington as her dower
( ecclesiastical law) the right of a lord of a manor to recommend a member of the Anglican clergy for a vacant benefice,
Nicholas de la Pomerai 1293 was bailiff to Margaret la Mahewe who claimed rights in manor.
SOURCE Edward III year book 1112 -1113
Mayhew may be a misreading /mistranscription of Montague & given the dates of this Margaret she was probably widow of John Montegue Earl of Salisbury.
Warblington was always a tiny hamlet that is located close to Langstone Harbour in Hampshire. Originaly a Saxon settlement established in the 7th century, it is mentioned in the Domesday Book of 1086, with a population of about 120.
Warblington manor house, now privately owned, was a moated manor and later a Tudor Castle the tower of which is all that remains.
Warblington
1086 Domesday shows it was wealthy
52 villagers. 48 smallholders. 13 slaves. 30 ploughlands. 5 lord's plough teams. 22 men's plough teams.
2 acres of Meadow 2 acres. 3 swine render Woodlands . 6 mills worth £3 , 1 fishery, 2 churches.
Annual value to lord: £43 in 1086;
Tenant-in-chief & Lord of the Manor in 1086: was Earl Roger (of Shrewsbury - almost certainly Not in residence it would have been leased to someone else - Fitzherbert.
see listed below
Gatehouse Gazeteer Warblington
In the mid C14th the castle was in the possession of the family of Monthermer. Ralph de Monthermer, Earl of Glouster, married Joan of Acres, sister of Edward II, by whom he had two sons, Thomas and Edward. The castle is said to have been built, as is more likely, a licence granted by the Crown to "Crenelate" the existing Manor c. 1340. (Butchart 1954)
NOTE a moated & fortified manor house
No mention of this in VCH. Not in the rolls. Butchart appears to have assumed a licence was granted, presumably because of the mis-belief that such a licence was a requirement. Other authors have repeated this assertion without, apparently, ever checking it. Although this is the sort of house granted a licence and Edward Monthermer may well have wanted a licence to show he was back on good terms with the king this supposed licence is rejected on the grounds of no supporting evidence and by analogue with
the large majority of such houses which were built without such a licence.
Heritage Gateway
Ruins of a moated manor house, probably built 1514-26, demolished between 1644 when it was beseiged during the Civil War and 1695. Remains of the gatehouse and moat are still visible. The foundations of 14th century buildings have been excavated.
further details at foot of page
Link to a Local History booklet here
AJP Opinion. Nicholas de la Pomeroy the bailiff was probably a younger son,, possible son of a younger son and therefore without property or the income from that mwning he had to find work .
Where he fits in the family tree is almost impossible to discover at this distance in time unless a document shows up linking him to the main family line.
However it interesting to look for him so far from Devon in early medieval times.
Roger de Mortimer married Philippa Montagu (d. 1382), daughter of the earl of Salisbury, and by her had at least one son and there is a connection through Montague's with Stokenham near Kingsbrishe in Devon but any Pomeroy connection remains obscure.
Was Nicholas could have been placed in the household of another family at an early age, as was customary , Maybe the Fitzherberts or their Mortimer overlords who held Stokenham in Devon, Maybe the teenage Pomeroy caught the eye of one of the daughters of the house, who took him into her service & he went with her household when she married and moved away.....
Did Nicholas become an estate retainer at WARBLINGTON keeping his position through the multiple changes or did he move elsewhere after her death in 1394 - hWhose household might he have been placed in.
Hampshire locations (Victoria County History )
Lords of the Manor of Warblington and Emsworth
Before the Norman Conquest of 1066 : Alric Earl Godwin
Harold Godwinsson (King Harold) who died 1066 at Hastings.
After the Norman Conquest until 1204:
Roger Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury ob. 1094.
Hugh Montgomery, ob. 1098.
Robert de Belesme, disgraced 1102.
In 1231 William de Warblynton was granted Warblington, with the hamlets of Empsworth, Estney (apparently Eastney on Hayling Island). Warblington went to Matthew FitzHerbert, a barons who , had been faithful to King John, as Henry Pomeroy had before being accused of High Treason & committing suicide in 1193.
The FitzHerberts seem to have held the manorof Warblington until the time of Edward I (1307-1327 ), when the last of that family, were daughters Isabella wife of `Hugh Bardolph and Phillis de Eastney, who shared the inheritance of an undivided the estate as co-parceners.
Warblington then reverted to the Crown, and in 1309 it was granted to Ralph de Monthermer, Earl of Gloucester who had married Edward the King's sister Joan Plantagenet. in secret.
Thereafter the descent of the manor is obscure until 1186, when it was in the possession of Robert de Curcy. who lost the estate in 1204 to the Crown & King John held it as part of the 'Terrae Normanorum' until he granted the lands thus
Matthew Fitzherbert, c.1211-1231.married Joan Manderville Patric & had at least 6 sons. Lord of Erlestoke and Stokenham in Devon, he was an English nobleman , Sheriff of Sussex with lands in Hastings, Sussex. Warblington manor. Emsworth, Estney and Watlington hamlets . He was one of 16 Illustrious Men, counselors to King John, who are listed in the preamble to Magna Carta.
Herbert Fitzherbert, 1231-C.1245. son of Matthew - 1239 A charter for a market and free (rabbit) warren in Emsworth and Warblington ; died without heirs suceeded by his brother
Peter Fitzherbert born about 1222, in Warblington, Hampshire son of Matthew FitzHerbert & his wife Joan Manderville Patric. He died in Spain. suceeded by his brother
John Fitzherbert, married Margaret de Berkeley, & had children when he died his widow held it as her dower
Margaret Berkley Lady Fitzherbert held in dower 1269-prior 1286.
Mathew son of John Ude(?Ede or possibly Matthew son of John Fitzherbert ) ,from before 1286, died 1310.
Robert le Ewer, 1310-1324 (disgraced).
Thomas Monthermer, 1324-1340. whose daughter Margaret married John Montague -
may have received a licence to crenellate in 1340
Margaret Monthermer held it as her dower 1340-1349.
John de Montacute/ Montague , by right of his wife Margaret, heir of Thomas Monthermer, 1349-1390.
Margaret Montegue as her dower King Edwards year books in 1312-1313
John died in 1390 She was living at her dower property in Warblington in 1394 .
John Montague jun., Earl of Salisbury, died 1400
Thomas Montague Earl of Salisbury, Died 1428 at Siege of Orleans.
Richard Neville by right of his wife Alice, heir of Thomas Montague, 1428-1461 (executed after Battle of Wakefield).
Richard Neville Earl of Warwick (the Kingmaker), 1461-1471 (executed after Battle of Barnet).
George Duke of Clarence by right of his wife Isabel Neville, ob. 1478 (in the Tower).
Edward Earl of Warwick, imprisoned age 11 when Henry Tudor took the Crown. Executed at th Tower of London in 1499 May have shared a cell with with Perkin Warbeck.(Richard VI )
Henry VII from 1499. then Henry VIII from. 1509 until 1513 .
Margaret,(de la Pole ,Countess of Salisbury, dau. of George of Clarence, see below
William FitzWilliam, Earl of Southampton, 1541-154
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STOKENHAM
Around 1185 Mathew fitz Herbert was made the first lord of the manor of Stokenham. c.1211-1231. Lord of Erlestoke and Stokenham in Devon, Sheriff of Sussex with lands in Hastings, Sussex. Warblington manor. Emsworth, Estney and Watlington hamlets He immediately built a fine new manor house and, by the side of it, a fine new manor church, replacing that earlier less significant structure.
Later held by Roger Mortimer, 2nd earl of March (1328-1360). He was born at Ludlow , grew up in the household of his stepfather, the earl of Northampton.
He married Philippa Montagu (d. 1382), daughter of the earl of Salisbury,and by her had at least one son
The Pomeroy Family Tree from shortly after 1066
2nd generation
Joscelinus, wife Emma , living in 1135,He with his father Radulpus granted 2 garbs of Tithes to the Wood at Meashes in Normandy to the church of St John in Falaise, also granted the Abbey at Val in Normandy of which he was co founder, the churches of Beri, Braodin & Clisson with other heridiments in Devon also a small fee & the tithes of a mill in La Pomerai & numerous churches & other Property 1125
1st Henry Pomeroy whose wife was Rohese Corbett sister of Earl of Cornwall. (Illegitimate son of `Henry I)
Assented to the gift to the Abbey of Val in 1125;
paid Danegeld n Devon 1133_ Witnessed a deed in Normandy in 1135 ; charged Dangeld in 1156 ;
Paid £7. 12s 6d in scutage of Wales in 1165 He died around that time.
Brothers Roger, Phillip, Josciln & Randulphus
Scutage was money paid by a vassal to his overlord lord in lieu of military service
2nd Henry 1st wife Matilda de Vitrie mother of 3rd Henry 2nd wife Rohesia BARDOLF sister of Doun Bardolf the children of Thomas Bardolf . She gave him no children.
Held the castle of La Pomeroi & his Prepositura from Duke of Normandy for a fee of £80 6s 8d for his lands & paid £29.7s.8d & certified his knights fees in England ; gave land to the Priory of St Nicholas in Exeter' which his wife & his brother Josceiln witnessed,
Captured & fortified St Michels Mount in Marizion for Prince John in rebellion against Richard I in 1193 . Died by suicide in 1194 after Richard the king had him accused him of High Treason. His lands were attainted.
His brother Joscelin was tried for High Treason & compelled to become a Monk at Forde Abbey. He left when Richard I died 1199 & was granted his property at Payhembury.
3rd Henry wife Alice de Vere daughter of John Earl of Oxford Paid 700 marks for his lands in 1195. Settled Clistwick Brandon & Cheriton on his son Geoffrey.
STOKENHAM was held by Mortimer
Devon Record Office 3799M-0/ET/23/2
1355 Contents: Grant for 11 years
1. Henry of la Pomeray, lord of Bury
2. John Wyckyng- one virgate of land of the 30 acres in the ward of Bymdon ( Kenedon Manor ) near STOKENHAM to Kingsbridge .
Circa 1500 William & Thomasin Barret (nee Pomeroy) were seized of the manor of Bowden held by Margaret Countess of Salisbury and her manor of STOKENHAM worth by the year £1/2 /6. .
Probably Not Bowden in Totnes but a substantial farm of the same name near the town of Kingsbridge in South Hams of Dvon
Lady Margaret de la Pole, Countess of Salisbury, was last surviving daughter of George Plantagenet Duke of Clarence & 1st cousin to Elizabeth of York, the wife of Henry VII . Late in her life her chief residence was Warblington Castle, she also held Bisham Manor in Berkshire. Lady Margaret served as one of Catherine of Aragon's ladies-in-waiting & then tutor to Princess Mary ( Bloody Mary) She lived quietly at Warblington until she was arrested for treason in 1539 , on the order of Henry VIII, & attainted .
At her execution at the Tower of London in 1540 she refused to bow her head to the block , declaring she was no traitor. Unhappily & very bloodily the inexperienced swordsman had to take 11 swings at her neck to execute her in hideous fashion.
346 years later on 29 December 1886 she was beatified by Pope Leo XII.
GASCON ROLLS
The roll consists of 17 membranes. There are entries on all of the face and dorse sides of the membranes except for membrane 3 where there are no entries on the dorse. There is a schedule sewn to the face of membrane 4. The roll otherwise is generally in good condition. TNA, C 61/32: 11-12 Edward II (1317-19) Introduction This roll, of 17 stitched parchment membranes, is the first of the unpublished Gascon Rolls to be edited and calendared since the publication of Yves Renouard’s edition ( Roles Gascons IV: Gascon Rolls preserved in the Public Record Office,
Time Line - the year ran from March 25 t March 24th - USEFULL timeline laid out by BBC here
Isabella, wife of king Edward II's wife, had left England for France in 1325 on the pretext of helping to settle a dispute over territory. But she had been badly treated by Edward's favourites, the Despensers, and declined to return. jn 1325 Isabella invaded England & overthrows Edward II.
Edward II's wife, Isabella, had left England for France in 1325 on the pretext of helping to settle a dispute over territory. But she had been badly treated by Edward's favourites, the Despensers& homosexual lover . She declined to return.
In 1326, she returned to England with a large force, & her lover Roger Mortimer whereupon the king's supporters deserted him. Edward II was captured, & his favourites Despensers were executed in the autumn of the same year. Following the invasion led by his wife, Isabella, Edward II abdicated in favour of his son. He was later murdered at Berkeley Castle in Gloucestershire on the orders of Isabella and her lover, Roger Mortimer. They ruled the country in the name of Edward III, who was 14.
1330 Edward III seizes control of the throne. He was just 14 when he became king. His father, Edward II, was forced to abdicate by his mother, Isabella, and her lover Roger Mortimer. In He executed Mortimer and forced Isabella to retire & went on to rule for 50 years.
24 May 1337 Hundred Years' War between England and France begins
From 1305 until 1378, the Popes lived in Avignon in southern France and not in Rome.
17 February 1325 . Westminster . Harwich. [in French]
Order to Richard de Perrers and John de Mounteney of Essex and John de Wauton to bring the 100 archers that they were assigned to array in Essex and Hertfordshire , in addition to those men-at-arms and foot soldiers that the king had previously ordered to be selected in those counties for his service 1 to be at Harwich by Sunday 17 March, to board ships on the instructions of John [le] Sturmy, the king's admiral in those parts , to go to Gascony. The king has assigned William de Kirkeby, king's clerk , to pay their wages until they reach Harwich and from there to Gascony. But now, because there is not enough time to array the men, the king has postponed his passage to the duchy until 17 May at the request of the earls and barons of the realm, so that they should be able to equip sufficient men. It was not his wish to leave the duchy undefended, however, and he has decided to send certain magnates of the realm with a large force of men-at-arms and foot soldiers, and a great quantity of victuals, and the 100 archers are to form part of this
On 23 December 1324 (see Calendar of the Patent Rolls -Ordes to Giles de Brianzon and Lucas de Vienne that the 100 archers that they were assigned to select in Surrey and Sussex .
Sunday 17 March,Ordered to go to Gascony with some magnates of the realm, at the king's wages. The king has assigned some people of the region to pay the wages for the journey to Portsmouth. In the same way to the following: John de Warblington and John de Basing in Hampshire , for 100 archers;
21 February 1325 . Westminster . [in French
Order to William de Bradshaw to be at Portsmouth on 17 March, well mounted, armed and equipped, notwithstanding the king's postponement of his passage to the duchy of Guyenne, to go in the king’s service in John [de Warenne], earl of Warenne ’s, company to Guyenne, according to the purport of the mandate which the king has sent him under his letters of the privy seal. At the request of many of the magnates of the realm, the king has postponed his passage to the duchy on 17 March until 17 May, so that they are able to be better equipped for the voyage. As the king does not wish to leave the duchy undefended he has ordered the passage of the earl of Warenne and other magnates of the realm, with a large number of men-at-arms and foot soldiers, on Sunday 17 March.
Hampshire: Robert Selman , John de Grimstead , Roger Woodlock , John de Buckland , John de Roches , Robert de Popham , Edward de St John , Theobald Russel , John de Warblington , John de Basing ;
Source: GSR C61 36 , https://www.gasconrolls.org/edition/calendars/C61_36/document.html#it036_18_11d_281.1.14
the sheriff of Hampshire , to pay the wages of 100 archers and their leaders, John de Warblington and John Basing , from Winchester to Portchester for one day.
Source: GSR C61 36 , https://www.gasconrolls.org/edition/calendars/C61_36/document.html#it036_18_11d_282.2
1304. April 8. St. Ford. commission to Thomas de Warblinton and Hugh de Chigenhull to enquire by jury of the county of Southampton and of the Isle of Wight and parts adjacent, touching a statement by William Russel, keeper of the manor of Sweyneston, Isle of Wight, that he caused a vessel called LA MARIOTE of Portesmuth, to be laden with 450 quarters 5 bushels of corn of divers kinds from the king's manors in that island to be taken to Berwick-on-Tweed, and the vessel was wrecked of the Isle of Wight, whereby a great part sank and the rest was cast on shore. He prays to be discharged of the amount sunk, and they are therefore to enquire what quantity of every kind of corn he caused to be put in the vessel, how much was sunk, and how much saved, and how much came to the hands of the said William or others, and of what value.' (2)
Ssource (2) gives the position of loss as "off the Isle of Wight", and states that some of the cargo "sank", indicating that she had probably foundered.
https://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/BardolfFamilyto1400.pdf
SC 8/4/191] Petitioners: Isabel de Bardolf, widow of Hugh Bardolf.
Addressees: King and council.
Nature of request: Bardolf requests that a suit that is pending in the king's court concerning her tenements in Emsworth and Warblington [Hampshire], and which has been delayed for 4 years proceed to judgement, and that they be restored to her
Nature of endorsement: Regarding the first article she should have a writ in Chancery at common law, and concerning the second article she should have a writ ad exitandum to the justices etc. that they should proceed to judgement etc. and if difficulties arisewherefore that they are unable to make judgement, then they are to send the record and process into parliament.
People mentioned: Robert le Ewer (Lewer)
A Bailiff was an overseer of the serfs & villiens , a role that often made him unpopular .
Serfs were unfree & without property . Villeins rented a dwelling with or without land & were obliged to spend some timeevery year working for the Lord of the Manor.
A Reeve was elected from among the peasantry. He was a servant who supervised the Lord of the Manor estate.
Matthew Fitzherbert Appointed Sheriff of Sussex by King John & served during the reign of King Henry III of England. Lord of Erlestoke (in Wiltshire) and Stokenham, was an English nobleman and Sheriff of Sussex.
issue:
HERBERT son of Matthew Born about 1234 Died young 1261 age 24
Lord of the demesne of Sandhurst, Kent; lands in Sussex; a free (rabbit) warren in Warblington & in 1239 charter for market and free warren in Emsworth and Warblington.
Died without issue, succeeded by his brother
Peter FitzMatthew, died 1255, without issue, succeeded by his brother
John FitzMatthew, married Margaret de Berkeley, & had issue.
Margaret Berkeley daughter of Feudal Baron Thomas (Berkeley) de Berkeley(Castle) and his wife Joan Somery. Thomas succeeded to the feudal lordship of Berkeley in 1220.
1 Wife of John FitzMatthew — married 1255 in England
2 Wife of Anselm Basset — married before 1265
sources
Cokayne, George Edward (1926). The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct or dormant, Volume 5. London: St. Catherine Press.
Collins, Arthur. The Peerage of England; containing a genealogical and historical account of all the peers of England, now existing, etc, Volume 2. W. Innys; R. Manby; T. Wotton & F. Gosling, 1741.
Medieval Feet of Fines
CP 25/1/204/9, number 12. dated 1251
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County: Hampshire. Place: Westminster.
Date: 15 days after Michaelmas, 35 Henry III [13 October 1251].
Before: Henry de la Mare, M.Simon de Wauton', Alan de Wasand.
Parties: Plaintiff William le Faukener, represented by John le Faukener, win or lose
Defendant. John, parson of Warblington (Warplington) church,
Property: 4 acres and half an acre of land, 9 shillings and 10d. rent, with appurtenances, in Newtimber [in Warblington] (Nitymbr') and Hayling Island (Heylond) whence a decree of grand assize was summoned between them in that court.
Agreement: William remitted and quitclaimed, for himself and his heirs, to John, his successors and the church all right and claim he had in the said land and rent, with appurtenances, in perpetuity. In return, John gave William 10 marks
CP 25/1/206/24, number 12. Dated 1342.
dated 1342Link: Image of document at AALT
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County: Hampshire. Place: Westminster.
Date: Two weeks from St Martin, 16 Edward III [25 November 1342].
Parties: Nicholas le Deuenyssh' and Edith, his wife, querents, and William de Fyfhide and John de Aluyngton', deforciants.
Property: The manors of Westbury and Empnesworth'.(Emsworth)
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: Nicholas has acknowledged the manors to be the right of John, as those which John and William have of his gift.
For this: William and John have granted to Nicholas and Edith the manors and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to Nicholas and Edith, of the chief lords for the lives of Nicholas and Edith. And after the decease of Nicholas and Edith the manors shall remain to Thomas, son of the same Nicholas, and Maud, his wife, and the heirs of the body of Thomas, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to the right heirs of Nicholas.
Note: [Endorsed: William Cole of Elyng' puts in his claim.]
CP 25/1/206/24, number 44. dated 1345
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County: Hampshire. Place: Westminster.
Date: One week from St John the Baptist, 19 Edward III [1 July 1345].
Parties: John le Boteler (Butler) the younger and Joan, his wife, querents, and Robert Ede and Richard Jordan, chaplain, deforciants.
Property: 1 messuage, 3 carucates of land and 10 pounds of rent in Warblyngton' and Haylyng'.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: John has acknowledged the tenements and rent to be the right of Richard, of which Richard and Robert have the messuage and the land of his gift.
For this: Robert and Richard have granted to John and Joan the same tenements and the rent, together with the homages and all services of Henry Romyn and Joan, his wife, John Carbonel, Robert Clere and Christian, his wife, Richard Jugelir, Robert Whithors and Joan, his wife, William de Tornore, John atte Cruch' and Isabel, his wife, and Geoffrey de Broch[a]mpton' and their heirs, in respect of all the tenements which they held before of Robert and Richard in the aforesaid vills, and have rendered the messuage and the land to them in the court, to hold to John le Boteler and Joan and the male heirs of the body of John, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders (1) to Joan, daughter of the same John, and the male heirs of her body and (2) to the right heirs of John le Boteler.
Edward II 's year book 25 March 1312 to 24 March 1313
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ASSIZE TAKEN BEFORE OUR LORD THE KlNG AT FARHAM ON Saturday the eve of St. James the Apostle in the twenty second YEAR OF THE REIGN OF THE SAID KlNG EDWARD, AND SENT BEFORE OUR LORD THE King's JUSTICES OF THE BENCH BY A WRIT. ( 1307-1327) 1310
An assize comes to find whether Margaret la Mahewe, Matthew the son of John, and John Flavel did unjustly etc. disseise Philip the son of Philip of Esteney of his freehold in Esteney since the first etc. And whereof he complains that they disseised him of the manor of Esteney with the appurtenances etc.
And John comes. And the said Matthew has not come, neither has he been attached, for he has not been found. But the said John answers for him as his bailiff. And the said Margaret likewise comes by one Nicolas, her bailiff.
And John, as tenant of the said tenements, says that he has nothing and claims nothing in them save the wardship of the said tenements until the legal age of the said Philip, by the lease of the said Matthew the son of John. And for the said Matthew he says that one Philip father of the said Philip held the said tenements from the said Matthew by knight service, and the said Philip died in his homage thereof, and after his death the said Matthew seised the said tenements into his hand by reason of the non-age of the said Philip who now complains, and who was below age, in the name of wardship without doing thereof any wrong or disseisin to anyone. Moreover, he says that he himself has the said lordship to be held, by the lease of our Lord the
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for the term of his life only, and that after his death the said lordship ought to revert to our Lord the King. And he prays that on this point this Court may have regard to that, in order to save the estate of our Lord the King etc.1
And the said bailiff of the said Margaret says that she did no wrong or disseisin, neither does she claim anything in the said manor save the lordship only, because that manor is held from her by the service of one pair of gilt spurs or six pence a year for all services, wherefore the said Margaret after the death of the said Philip the son of Peter, her tenant, did seise that manor as the chief lady, in the name of simple seisin, saving the rights of everyone, without doing thereof any wrong to anybody. And of this she puts herself upon the assize.
And the said Philip the son of Philip says that he himself is below age, neither does he understand2 the law of the land, nor does he know3 how to plead, but he says that he had himself been seised of the said tenements as of his freehold until the said Margaret and the others did unjustly etc. disseise him thereof as he complains. And he prays that this be inquired bv the assize etc.
The jurors say upon their oath that in the time of King John, grandfather of our Lord the present King, one Robert of Corey held in chief from the said Lord the King the manor of Warblington with appurtenances, the manor of Esteny being an appurtenance and a member of the above The jurors say upon their oath that in the time of King John, grandfather of our Lord the present King, one Robert of Corey held in chief from the said Lord the King the manor of Warblington with appurtenances, the manor of Esteny being an appurtenance and a member of the above. And a war having broken out between the said Lord the King and the King of France, the said Robert ( ) went to the King of France and became adherent to his side against our Lord the King of England. Therefore the said King of England seised the said manor of Warblington entirely with all its appurtenances into his hand as his escheat,4 because the said Robert had become his enemy and against his peace.5 And afterwards the same King granted the said manor entirely to one Matthew the son of Herbert
Margaret was holding Warblington in ' brother ' is a clerical mistake. dower in October 1287, with remainder 5 I.e. until the time of the grant
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1 The manor was entailed on Herbert to Matthew son of John Ude {Cal. Pat. and his heirs, failing the restoration 1281-92, p. 280), who had quitclaimed of Robert de Courci ( V.C.H. Hants, iii, his right to Henry III in return for a 135). life grant of the manor.
2 Peter did homage for his land 3 In 1313 Peter was said to have in 1245 (ibid.). He was succeeded in permitted his tenant, Philip son of W'arblington by his brother John, who Peter of Esteney, to exercise manorial paid relief for the inheritance in 1255 rights ( V.C.H. Hants, loc. cit.) : this (ibid. Excerpta e Rot. Fin. i, 432 ; ii, Philip was no doubt the son of Florence 205 ; Misc. inq. file 15, no. 13), and of Dageney mentioned below, and father seems to have been dead by July 1269 of the tenant in this case.
(Y.i .11. Hante, loc. cit.). John's widow 4 This is the obvious meaning;
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said manor entirely with all its appurtenances, as has been said above, to the said Herbert, to be held to him and to his heirs from our Lord the King and his heirs
.1 But they (the jurors) do not know by what service (the manor was to be held). And the said Herbert died seised thereof by that grant, in his demesne as of fee, and without an heir of his body. And after his death there entered into the said manor one Peter as brother and heir of the said Herbert, and held it from the same Lord the King by the same services by which his brother had previously held it
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2 And afterwards the said Peter, desiring the promotion of one Florence of Dageny, gave her a manor of his, (to wit, the manor) of Yatesbury in the County of Wiltshire, to be held to her, Florence, and to her heirs from the said Peter and his heirs, by the service of one pair of gilt spurs or of six pence a year for all services, and he bound himself to warranty. And afterwards, after the said Florence had thus been in the seisin of the said manor of Yatesbury, she was impleaded by someone for the same manor in the King's Court, so that the said Florence vouched thereof to warranty the said Peter, who did by judgment of the Court lose that manor of Yatesbury. Therefore it was considered that the demandant should recover his seisin of the said manor against the said Florence, and that Florence should have of the land of the said Peter to the value etc. By reason of that judgment the said Peter assigned to the said Florence the said manor of Esteny with the appurtenances,
3 to be held to her and to her heirs in lieu of the value of the said manor of Yatesbury, and by the same services by which the said Florence had formerly held the manor of Yatesbury. And they (the jurors) say that the same manor of Esteny had all the time before then been a member and of the appurtenances of the said manor of Warblington. Afterwards the said Florence, after she had been in the seisin of the said manor of Esteny, gave the same manor with the appurtenances to one Reginald her elder son and to the said Philip fathe
4 of the said Philip who now complains, sons of her the said Florence, to be held to them, Reginald and Philip, and to their heirs from the said Peter, and his heirs by the said service, by which she had held it formerly.5 And by that gift the said Reginald continued his seisin all his time and died thereof seised ; and after his death the said Philip father etc. entered into the said manor of Esteney, according to the form of the said gift. And after the same Philip had thus been
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1 The manor was entailed on Herbert to Matthew son of John Ude {Cal. Pat. and his heirs, failing the restoration 1281-92, p. 280), who had quitclaimed of Robert de Courci ( V.C.H. Hants, iii, his right to Henry III in return for a 135). life grant of the manor
2 Peter did homage for his land 3 In 1313 Peter was said to have in 1245 (ibid.). He was succeeded in permitted his tenant, Philip son of W'arblington by his brother John, who Peter of Esteney, to exercise manorial paid relief for the inheritance in 1255 rights ( V.C.H. Hants, loc. cit.) : this (ibid. Excerpta e Rot. Fin. i, 432 ; ii, Philip was no doubt the son of Florence 205 ; Misc. inq. file 15, no. 13), and of Dageney mentioned below, and father seems to have been dead by July 1269 of the tenant in this case
(Y.i .11. Hante, loc. cit.). John's widow 4 This is the obvious meaning;
Margaret was holding Warblington in ' brother ' is a clerical mistake. dower in October 1287, with remainder 5 I.e. until the time of the grant.
42 seised thereof, one Nicolas Martyn,1 in whose wardship the said Matthew the son of John was at that time by reason of his non-age, ejected the said Philip from the said manor. Therefore the said Philip arraigned before the King at Winchester an assize of novel disseisin against the said Nicolas for the said manor, and recovered it there by recognition of the same assize ; and afterwards he held it all his time and died seised thereof in his demesne as of fee. And after his death the said Philip who now complains, and the executors of the said Philip, his father, in the name of the said Philip the son, entered into the same manor, affirming that manor to be the right and inheritance of the said Philip ; and they stayed there one night and one day as in the right and inheritance of the said heir. And afterwards the said executors with the said Philip, son etc., left there and sent the said heir to Portsmouth. And they (the jurors) say that afterwards one2 de la Pomeray, bailiff of one Margaret la Mahewe, meaning3 his said lady4 to have a right in the wardship of the said manor, seised that manor into his lady's hand and approached the body of the said heir and took the same heir and sent him to his lady, who admitted that heir and held him until afterwards5 the said Matthew the son of John, seeing this, did go with force and arms to the said manor and with force and arms ejected as well the men of the said heir as those of the said lady, who were on the said manor ; and he took that tenement into his hand and afterwards, having kept the same manor for two years, leased it to the said John Flauel who thus now holds it.
FootnoteS 1 Nicholas Martin was guardian of 5 In the Latin text ' afterwards ' the manor of Warblington in July 1261) stands immediately before ' seeing.' [V.C.H. Hants, loc. cit.). 6 The tenements were restored to
2 No Christian name is given; see Philip in 1314 (Cal. Close 131.3-18. note I on the opposite page. p. f>2), and were held by Alice in 1316
3 The several senses of 'to mean' in accordance with the settlement of seem to match those of intendere. 1308 (Feudal Aids, ii 320; V.CM.
4 Or, 'mistress' (?) limits, iii. I!).")).
Extract from A Short History of Emsworth and Warblington by A. J. (John) C. Reger MA (Cantab), MBE
1066 Manor of Warblington given to Roger Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury as part of the manor of Westbourne.
• 1086 Doomsday Book lists Warblington as being part of the manor of Westbourne with two churches and a mill. The whole Manor had 29 families and two slaves i.e. about 120 people. There were also seven plough teams, meaning about 850 acres (343 hectares) of land under cultivation
• 1216 King John had reputedly divided the manor of Warblington into two. William Aguillon paid rent of 'a pair of gilt spurs yearly’ for the land at Emelsworth. First recorded mention of Emsworth as a separate entity
Early 14th-century tomb, probably that of Phyllis de Estney daughter of Robert Aguillon, and sister of Isabella Bardolf who usurped the rights of the manor was eventually unceremoniously disinherited.
Tomb with the church to Isabella Bardolf and Phyllis de Estney, daughters of Robert Aguillon, a royal official in the reign of Edward I, and as sharp as the needle from which he gets his name. His father was that William who had been given £5 worth of land at Emsworth by King John. Robert turned this into a claim for the whole of the manorial rights of Warblington and having assumed these rights he transferred them to Isabella, his eldest daughter. Phyllis died in about 1315 and Isabella in 1325
Medieval Lords of Warblington and Wade
Because the Manor of Warblington came to be a rather useful 'free gift' at the disposal of the Crown, various persons of some importance came to own the estate in the 14th century.
Robert le Ewer, who regained all the manorial rights from Isabella Bardolf in 1322, did not continue long in possession. As one of the dissident lords he lost his life and the manor before Edward II was deposed and murdered in 1327.
Earlier Edward had granted the reversion of the manor to his brother in-law, Ralph Monthermer; but Ralph was dead at the time of Robert le Ewer's disgrace and his second son Thomas inherited in 1325 and held the manor until his death in 1340.
Ralph Monthermer was a very good example of the poor boy who made good. As one of the knights of Gilbert de Clare Earl of Gloucester he made a secret and runaway marriage with the earl's young widow, Joan, who was the daughter of Edward I.
Edward was furious. The young couple were followed and brought before him, and Ralph was sent to the Tower and Joan to a nunnery. But she was Edward's favourite daughter and Ralph had the reputation of being the most skilful knight in England so that in the end all was forgotten and they were reunited and restored to royal favour. Joan died in 1307, the same year as her father; Ralph survived her for many years fighting with great valour at Bannockburn where he was captured but released free of ransom. The Monthermer's shield was a green eagle displayed on a gold field and this is to be seen on some of the encaustic tiles in the church and in the painted crest on the castle.
Edward I had decreed that when lords who held land of the crown died an inquest must be taken of all their estates and from that taken on the death of
Thomas Monthermer we gain the value of the Manor of Warblington at that time.
The manor house was not in a very good state of repair and it was said to be not worth much. The produce of the garden was worth 3s. 4d. (16%p), but the dovecote was almost destroyed and was worth only 2s. (10p], The 'home farm' had some 205 acres (83 hectares] of arable land worth £10 Os. 4y2d. (£10.02], This was roughly 6d. (2%p) per acre per year and was normal for good land at the time. There were six acres of meadow and 16 acres (6 hectares] of pasture, with more pasture at Milton, and there were 30 acres (12 hectares] of Great Oak Wood which was worth nothing as 'it lay in the common'.
The Emsworth Fishery was worth 6s. 8d. (33p] and the rents of the freemen, villeins and tenants at Milton were worth £12 2s. 6d. (£12.12y2p] Certain tenants made fixed payments twice a year and these together were worth £3 3s. 8d. (£3.18p] while the 'customary rents' of the tenants were worth 10s. (50p], The pleas of the Court were worth 13s. 4d. (67% p].
Thomas's heir was his ten-year-old daughter Margaret who subsequently married John Montague and whose descendants became Earls of Salisbury; the last of these died in 1428 at the Siege of Orleans, the event which first brought Joan of Arc to the notice of a wondering France.
The last Earl's daughter married Richard Neville already Earl of Warwick and now Earl of Salisbury by right of his wife. Their son was Warwick the Kingmaker the most important man in England in the third quarter of the 15th century. His daughters both married royalty. One married first Edward the Lancastrian Prince of Wales, and secondly Richard Crookback Duke of Gloucester; the other married George of Clarence. Clarence's son Edward Earl of Warwick was executed in 1499; his daughter was Margaret, Countess of Salisbury.
The lords of Warblington were great folk, the lords of Wade were not, but one family, the Falconers, are a very good example of the kind of people who formed the 'middle sort' of medieval society.
Langstone; other references to customs officers in Emsworth in the 14th century, including the appointment of a special commission in 1378 Trade, industry and population suffered a decline as a result of the Black Death and in the following century most of the inhabitants of Warblington came to live at Emsworth and the older site was slowly abandoned.
Today the site of Saxon Warblington is almost deserted. The ancient church of St Thomas a Becket stands almost alone at the end of a leafy lane with just the castle and farm for company.
The desertion appears to have been in three stages.
The first move occurred when Emsworth was given its market and fair in the 13th century and some of the inhabitants moved there, to be 'nearer the shops'
Medieval Lords of Warblington and Wade
Because the Manor of Warblington came to be a rather useful 'free gift' at the disposal of the Crown, various persons of some importance came to own the estate in the 14th century.
Robert le Ewer, who regained all the manorial rights from Isabella Bardolf in 1322, did not continue long in possession. As one of the dissident lords he lost his life and the manor before Edward II was deposed and murdered in 1327.
Ralph Monthermer was a very good example of the poor boy who made good. As one of the knights of Gilbert de Clare Earl of Gloucester he made a secret & runaway marriage with the earl's young widow, Joan (Plantagenet) daughter of Edward I.
Edward was furious. The young couple were followed and brought before him, and Ralph was sent to the Tower and Joan to a nunnery. But she was Edward's favourite daughter and Ralph had the reputation of being the most skilful knight in England so that in the end all was forgotten and they were reunited and restored to royal favour. Joan died in 1307, the same year as her father; Ralph survived her for many years fighting with great valour at Bannockburn where he was captured but released free of ransom.
The Monthermer's shield was a green eagle displayed on a gold field and this is to be seen on some of the encaustic tiles in the church and in the painted crest on the castle.
Earlier Edward had granted the reversion of the manor to his brother in-law, Ralph Monthermer; but Ralph was dead at the time of Robert le Ewer's disgrace and his second son Thomas inherited in 1325 and held the manor until his death in 1340.
Edward I had decreed that when lords who held land of the crown died an inquest ( an Inqusition Post Mortem or IPM ) must be taken of all their estates and from that taken on the death of Thomas Monthermer we gain insight as to the value of the Manor of Warblington at that time.
The manor house was not in a very good state of repair and it was said to be not worth much. The produce of the garden was worth 3s. 4d. (16%p), but the dovecote was almost destroyed and was worth only 2s. (10p]; The 'home farm' had some 205 acres (83 hectares] of arable land worth £10 Os. 4y2d. (£10.02], This was roughly 6d. (2%p) per acre per year and was normal for good land at the time. There were six acres of meadow and 16 acres (6 hectares] of pasture, with more pasture at Milton, and there were 30 acres (12 hectares] of Great Oak Wood which was worth nothing as 'it lay in the common'.
The Emsworth Fishery was worth 6s. 8d. (33p] and the rents of the freemen, villeins and tenants at Milton were worth £12 2s. 6d. (£12.12y2p] Certain tenants made fixed payments twice a year and these together were worth £3 3s. 8d. (£3.18p] while the 'customary rents' of the tenants were worth 10s. (50p], The pleas of the Court were worth 13s. 4d. (67% p].
Thomas's heir was his ten-year-old daughter Margaret who subsequently married John Montague and whose descendants became Earls of Salisbury; the last of these died in 1428 at the Siege of Orleans, the event which first brought Joan of Arc to the notice of a wondering France.
The last Earl's daughter married Richard Neville already Earl of Warwick and now Earl of Salisbury by right of his wife. Their son was Warwick the Kingmaker the most important man in England in the third quarter of the 15th century. His daughters both married royalty. One married first Edward the Lancastrian Prince of Wales, and secondly Richard Crookback Duke of Gloucester; the other married George of Clarence. Clarence's son Edward Earl of Warwick was executed in 1499; his daughter was Margaret, Countess of Salisbury.
During the Wars of the Roses the remaining inhabitants were turned out and rehoused at the foot of Southleigh Road when Warwick the Kingmaker, then Lord of the Manor, decided to turn the fields around the church into his private deer park.
Thomas de Monthermer, 2nd Baron Monthermer (4 October 1301 – 24 June 1340) was the son of Ralph de Monthermer, 1st Baron Monthermer and Joan of Acre, a daughter of King Edward I of England.[1] He was a first cousin of King Edward III of England.
his mother was Joan Plantagenet her 2nd marraige was made in secret after she fell in love with Ralph de Monthermer, a squire in Joan's father's household. She convinced her father to have Monthermer knighted. On 2 Aug 1297 Monthermer paid hoage to her father the king & largely becaus eshe was pregnat by then he was granted the titles of Earl of Gloucester and Earl of Hertford, He rose in the King's favour during Joan's lifetime
Thomas gained the title of Baron Monthermer on the death of his father. He married Margaret de Brewes, daughter of Sir Peter de Brewes They had one daughter, Margaret, who in 1343 became the wife of John de Montacute, 1st Baron Montacute, the younger brother of William Montacute and son of William Montagu, 1st Earl of Salisbury.
Their son John became the 3rd Earl of Salisbury and 4th Baron Monthermer but did not live long dying in 1400
Monthermer Thomas in GASCON ROLLS
Name often given as Monte H'merii. Assigned, with others, to keep the coast in Cornwall in 1337-1338.
24 June 1337 . Stamford . Order to Hugh de Courtenay, earl of Devon and Philip de Columbers to keep the ports and coast and the coastal land in Devon and to strongly resist the king’s enemies if they should presume to come and to safely keep the same with due diligence so that the realm should not be damaged or threatened by negligence. Courtenay and Columbers were assigned to keep all the ports and coast where ships can land, and all the coastal land in Devon, and to resist all those who come against the king by land and sea and invade the realm, and to attack and destroy them, and to keep those parts safe and secure both on land and sea against all kinds of threats; with power to appoint suitable deputies. Robert Beaupele , John de Beauchamp of Ryme and Richard de Merton , who were assigned to array all the fensable men of the county have been commanded to bring the men to Courtenay and Columbers and their deputies where and as often as they are warned against the enemy, and that they should obey and attend on them. Courtenay and Columbers are given full powers of arresting and taking all those of Devon who they will find refuse to obey the orders, and of committing them to prison where they are to remain until further orders are received. 1
14 July next, Oliver de Carminowe and John de Teiagu were associated with Thomas de Monthermer and John Dauney , keepers of all the ports and coast in Cornwall.
1348-49 the Black Death
Around a 3rd of the 14th century population died, about 50 million people[ perished in Europe ,
The outbreak of 1348/49 was largely Bubonic in character though there were a number of Pneumonic cases. The first type is fatal in about one third of all cases the second kills in minutes. Deaths were enormous, between one quarter and one third of the population was wiped out during these two years. In some particularly badly hit villages almost three quarters of the population died.
We know that in the nearby Manor of Wymering so many were dead by 1350 that no one knew what the manor was worth. This pandemic plague was to continue in sporadic outbreaks of a local and national nature for the next three hundred years finally dying out in the reign of Charles II.1666
Today the site of Saxon Warblington is almost deserted. The ancient church of St Thomas a Becket stands almost alone at the end of a leafy lane with just the castle and farm for company.
The desertion appears to have been in three stages. The first move occurred when Emsworth was given its market and fair in the 13th century and some of the inhabitants moved there, to be 'nearer the market town. Medieval markets had to be 7 miles apart .
Eastney It is mentioned in the Edward III Year book in the same assize. Its close to Warblington & was obviously once a small place but is now part of Portsmouth. Even as a tiny hamlet it would have been one of the local places Lady Margaret Montegue held and drew income from..
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Warblington Castle
Warblington Castle
Hob Uid: 242155 Location :
Hampshire Havant Non Civil Parish
Grid Ref : SU7295005570
Summary : Ruins of a moated manor house, probably built 1514-26, demolished between 1644 when it was beseiged during the Civil War and 1695. Remains of the gatehouse and moat are still visible. The foundations of 14th century buildings have been excavated.
More information : (Area centred at SU 72950557) Warblington Castle (GT) (Remains of). (1)
Additional references (2, 2a,2b,2c, 2d)
The 'Castle' is said to have been built, or a license to crenellate the existing manor granted, c1340 and the foundations of some buildings surrounding the courtyard date possibly from the 14th century. They are surmounted by 1-4 courses of Tudor brick and the gatehouse ruins are of that date, built of brick faced with Isle of Wight stone, the mouldings and ornament of Caen stone.
It would seem that the 'castle' was uninhabitable in 1695 and after the siege of 1644 it had probably been dismantled. (3)
The 'castle' - a fortified homestead - has been totally destroyed, its site occupied by the modern farm. This house and the ruins of the gatehouse, which has a turret of early Tudor brick, are surrounded by a square moat, the traces of which, on the S and E sides, are to be seen as a very shallow depression. Along the N side the moat is still quite deep and apparently turned south at the modern pond. Along the N side, outside the moat, is a steep-sided, clay rampart, c8 feet high, and 11-12ft above the bottom of the moat, with a flat top 6-8 feet wide. At its NE end is a square 'expansion', 30 x 30 feet and at the NW end it stops abruptly in a line with the gateway. In the field to the westward, there are traces, possibly of former buildings flanking the main approach. At the end of the 18th century, the field to the north is described as 'surrounded with a mound and fosse as deep as that of the castle'.
The plan of the earthworks would seem to have been a 'double bailey' of moat and rampart and surrounding this a further rampart represented by the N hedge, the W and S roads and the E stream. (4)
The 'castle' was probably built by the Countess of Salisbury, 1514-26. (5)
In 1518 a large quantity of building material, including 11 tons of Caen stone and 210,000 bricks, was used at Warblington Manor. (7-7a)
Foundations, believed to be of the Dining Hall, exist in the paddock to the south of the present house, and paving stones have been ploughed up there. Other foundations have been uncovered beneath the lawn. (8)
The sole visible remains of Warblington Castle are the gatehouse (see GP's), and traces of the moat (see 1:2500 cut-out). The earthwork in the field to the north (see Authy 3) has the appearance of an old river bed, and is probably a natural feature. The remains are as described in Authy 3.
Gatehouse and remains of moat - no change; published 1:2500 survey revised.
No traces of further earthworks were seen in the field to the N, nor in the field to the W. In the second field to the N, centred SU 72900575, natural slopes lead down to a stream, beyond which, the ground to the N has been lowered, probably by gravel digging. There is further evidence of old gravel workings in the S half of the field. Two low, broad, parallel banks running N-S to the S of the stream with a hollow-way running W from the S end, may be the result of, or associated with, gravel working, but do not appear to be connected with the moated site. (9)
SU 729055. Listed as the deserted Medieval village of Warblington. No further information to add to above to suggest a settlement. Nothing visible on available air photographs. (10)
No change. (11)
Cathcart King states that this is not a fortified building. (12)
Listed. For the designation record of this site please see The National Heritage List for England. (13-14)
Scheduled. For the designation record of this site please see The National Heritage List for England. (15-16)
Built of brick, faced with hewn stone. Front was probably to the south west where gateway and tower are now standing. The tower at present is become a pigeon house. Conjectured to have been built at the time of Henry VII. May have been a strong house. The original building and fortress included within the fosse might be near an acre. The fosse must be at least 10ft deep. The NE and NW sides of the castle are covered by a field about 5 acres. The field is surrounded by a mound (8 ft) and fosse as deep as that of the castle. The whole is now overgrown with coppice wood.
Source quotes from 1633 extract from the tenure of the manor, which at the time belonged Lord Richard Cotton: "The site of the principle manor house of Warblington...well moated about, built of bricks and stones. Built square in length 200ft and breadth 200ft with a fair court within and buildings round....with a fair gallery and diverse chambers of great count, two towers covered with lead and spacious hall, parlour and Great chamber....and chapel." (17)
In reference to authority 2a, The VCH states that it was granted to the Montagus in the 14th century, from whom it passed to the Nevills in the 15th century. The house no longer exists and the only remains are a tall octagonal turret which once formed the angle of the entrance gateway dating from the early 16th century, probably the time of Margaret Countess of Salisbury, who took possession in 1526. (18)
From Eastney across the Langstone Harbour
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