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> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:29:32 -0400

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> Subject: [Unirondack] an open letter

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> This is an open letter.  Everyone is free to redistribute it.  

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Anne Perry ajperry@rochester.rr.com via lists.uua.org Sep 12, 2008, 3:05 PM

to unirondack

As a former board member and as someone who has managed people in the

business world, the one thing we all need to realize is that personnel

matters are private and confidential. The individual who is reprimanded or

asked to leave can say anything he/she wants to say about what happened, but

the manager/organization can't say anything about the matter. This leaves

the rest of us who have not been involved wondering what happened and,

perhaps, feeling sorry for the individual affected. My experience tells me

that we must respect the privacy of the board and the individual and we must

trust that the Board has done the best thing for the organization. The Board

can not defend its actions in a personnel matter because they are legally

bound to keep the matter confidential. For all we know, the Board has

followed Unirondack values and since they can't defend themselves, we have

no way to hear their side of the story. I personally believe that handling a

matter "professionally" is not in conflict with Unirondack values.

-- Anne Perry

----- Original Message -----

From: "Ellyn Lentz" <ellynbl@aol.com>

To: <unirondack@lists.uua.org>

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [Unirondack] Unirondack Digest, Vol 53, Issue 5

> seems to me discussion of staffing issues needs to be more private than an> open list serve.

> Sincerely> Ellyn Lentz

Bari-Sue Douglas kdbsh@comcast.net via lists.uua.org 12, 2008, 4:07 PM

to Ellyn, unirondack

We wholeheartedly agree.  We are aware of people at our congregation in New Jersey who have never attended Unirondack at all but who signed up for the list serve since they are considering coming next summer and they are reading all of this.  Not a great first impression I think.

Also, we're very confused by these e-mails anyway.  We read all this heated discussion about Ami's contract being terminated in a way that was apparently very controversial; but nothing has explained why or how it was terminated.  Not that we really need to know, but if we're not informed about that, what's the point of us receiving all these related msgs.?

Be well everyone.

Bari-Sue and Ken Douglas

(Attended family camp this summer for the first time)

Community Building at Unirondack - handout for campers/staff - Elizabeth Basher    ca. 2010

Crew Chief - Goals/Philosophy  - 1980

Letter shows Howard Gilman views - 1961 Jr High Leader leaves camp at 1AM