Climbing wall was on the very first rough plans! Still to be completed.
Devin Hollands <devinhollands@gmail.com>Thu, May 27, 2010, 10:02 PM
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Pavilion update:
The builder is working away on the pavilion with a large crew of helpers... by now have our wood floor Down and a good section of the roof framing going.
All the posts are up and the large trusses are in place.
Original configeration before staff made stage opening wider
Drawing by Shayne Hollands forAnnual Dinner to honor Dan Gottfried and Sarah/Sally Stevens 2017
Board President Devin Hollands to Members March 2010
To keep it away from confusing I think we do not need to do fund raising for the pavilion per se.. Just do the fund raising for the Foundation -- which funds the great works Like the Pavilion.. that people can see going up......
We only need $30k in other commitments for the friendly loan or bonds to the camp.
I know we can easily obtain that.
So let's not get into a pavilion vs foundation debate.. it is all the same thing.. but any DONATED funds at this point will go to the Foundation.... unless earmarked....
I will work out the Bond details with Marty.
I am planning to visit the builder next week.. he is free any day with a 1 day notice.
We need to move into contract with the builder and start detailed talks and set the sch of construction...
for board approval to do this we have:
Sara is OK Phil Heather Russ Devin OK Jeremy
I am proposing we have a call this SUNDAY at a time that works... to go over:
Contractor Bid: $60k (no chimney, no plumbing, no electric)
Design details people are concerned with
Any other concerns...
I spoke to Mary from Ithaca for hours tonight about her design suggestions and going over the different elements...
I think we should break ground as soon as possible and get this thing up...
Let me hear from you if you are ready to go.. or if you have concerns... and also if you want to put in $5k or $10k -loan - bond- to fund the build out... while we raise
Unirondack, Inc.
Devin Hollands, President
507 Wilson Ave
East Rochester, NY 14445 5-24-2010
Rita,
Attached is a revised Inquiry form to J2009-553. I think our proposed pavilion still
falls within the 25% range based on 1973 square footage.
I have based the numbers on the survey map drawn for us by certified NYS surveyor
Thomas Kovach which shows the principal buildings. The survey is stamped by Kovach
and I will include it with packet being sent via overnight to you.
Based on the survey and data from past applications and current data we still qualify as
having enough range to have this structure qualify.
Our 9.6 acre site is spread out over a lower and upper campus. Other than the boat house
this is the only major structure on the lower level and is situated in large open field.
I hope you have time to review the figures as this project is very important to us as we
have dreamed of it since 1991 and finally have the resources to complete the dream.
Devin Hollands,
President, Unirondack, Inc.
Via fax and overnight mail
1973 13,750 sq feet
25% factor = 3,438
Total capacity 17,188
Existing 13,659
Proposed 2,400
Total 16,059
Unirondack, Inc.
Devin Hollands, President
507 Wilson Ave
East Rochester, NY 14445
585-309-3898 5-25-2010
RITA G. QUINN
Project Administrator
Rita,
In reviewing my files today I find and attach my original 1997 site square footage
breakdown which shows 13,796 square feet of principal buildings in 1973.
I think the 9,260 figure you state in your 5-21-2010 letter for our 1973 footage reflects
my total less our main lodge and crafts shop (3,250 and 1,500). These two buildings are
not sleeping buildings but would be considered principal buildings under sec. 570.3.
The attached paperwork agrees with the figures I produced last night based on the actual
stamped site survey. The only variance being the shower house which I state at 742 but the
1997 has listed as 952… the variance being the front covered porch that is not shown on the
survey I did not include on the 2010 numbers. Also you had previously explained that the 96
foot pump house does not figure into the calculations – as noted on the 1997 work.
The MAJOR difference is with the current square footages shown. The 1997 work was
rough based on best information at the time sitting 200 miles from the camp. Fortunately the
EXISTING buildings are what is there now so there is no question about that. The two Major
buildings have substantial variances from what actually existing in the 1997 work.
As can be seen on the stamped surveyor’s site plan:
1) Gilman building (dining hall) is a 60’x40’ building with a little jog in at one portion.
This comes out to 2,300’ as compared to the 1997 3,097.
2) Main Lodge is listed as 3,700 in 1997 but the actual dimensions of the building are
basement 41,25’ x 34’ and first floor the same but there is a large void in the first floor
due to a great room. Even without the void in the floor space you can see the building
could not achieve the 3,700 1997 figure. It is in total only 2,581.
This is the first determination we have filed where the numbers are very critical due to being
close to the 25% mark.
Devin Hollands,
President, Unirondack, Inc.
Via fax and overnight mail
1973 13,750 sq feet
25% factor 3,438
Total capacity 17,188
Existing 13,359
Proposed 2,400
Total 15,759
as part of the pavillion project. As it turned out the cost was very high so it was dropped.
Devin Hollands <devinhollands@gmail.com>Mar 26, 2010, 7:22 PM
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Dan suggestion:
I think we build the foundation for the fireplace and put it in next year.
I still prefer it on the field side rather than the lake side so you have an unobstructed view of the lake but either way would undoubtedly be nice.
Dan
Devin Hollands suggestion: well why don't we do it all now then... as you know from our lodge the Roof and leaking around the stone is a major issue sometimes... so would be much better to do it all at same time .. and then if it leaks we know who to go to....
My logic for keeping it away from field side is so kids do not run into the stone work when playing... on the lake side you will not have that issue..
you know how we love to run for long frisbee passes or volley ball hits..... and running into a tree with branches to stop you is different than a stone wall..... that is the only reason I want it on the lake side......
If we want it we will just do it this year....all at once....
I will call Ed to get pricing....
devin
phil lewin <flipglen@cogeco.ca>July 26, 2010, 4:28 PM
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I just returned from a weekend at camp because of the special meeting
and a board meeting.
I was struck with the success the new Pavilion has had in changing
camp use for the better and wanted to let people know what I saw,
because this building has been controversial.
Picture a rainy day at camp. Typically, most campers are indoors in
the lodge or their cabins. Activities are restricted to inside
spaces. The tables in Gillman are up and down like yoyos.
No longer! Picture a group playing cards in the open air in one
corner, campers reading in others and a small group (including me)
playing music. In all, most of the inter- session campers where there.
Staff will tell you it has brought people out of buildings and into
open air. It has saved them from the table agony in Gillman and has
moved much of camp's activities down below.
Don't take my word for it, come and see it for yourself as soon as
you are able!
Oh... and now we still have to pay for it, so fund raising is just
getting started.
Love to all,
Phil Lewin
Devin Hollands <devinhollands@gmail.com>Jul 26, 2010, 6:04 PM
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I asked the entire staff how many times they took the tables down this season.... NONE...
The talent show I witnessed in the Stevens Performing Arts Center was terrific and really would not have wanted to fit 100 staff and campers and guests in the old Gilman. The new staff members said they can not picture how you would operate camp without this building.. it is being WELL used and loved.
There is a 8x12' Screen with a new powerful digital projector that makes movies and slides look incredible.
Microphones, mixing boards, speakers...electric piano.... we have a real Performing Center.. with great Acoustics to boot.. so good we got a call from a neighbor to tone down the Jimmy Hendrix...live performance.
We had a nice ribbon cutting and reception - with two of the Steven's family in attendance....
Next season we plan to renovate CHADWICK at the request of the staff.. sanding floors, painting, removing the bathrooms, adding new extension for new bathroom, adding new lights and repairing the front porch.. maybe adding windows and doing something with the ceiling...
Also plans percolating for the inside of the shower house.. Cedar slat Flooring - like in a Suna, Bright v-notch pine boards covering the block walls and ceiling - with shiny polyurethane to protect the wood. New fans for ventilation, small heating units for spring/fall. tile fix up in the showers, new stall doors as needed etc etc.
Gilman's transformation will continue into the Grand Dining Hall that is should be with the removal of the stage and walls to make one grand room... new windows with screens are needed and some nice siding inside on the walls...
The campers are having such a great time it is very motivating and inspiring to see! We are serving Large numbers of UU youth and adults.. most likely the largest number of campers in the camps 60 years this season. This is during a time when most camps are facing very tough times recruiting campers.
So I am glad you continue to be a part of this great camp!
Devin