Family Tree of Shane Allen McFarland Lämmel

The Missouri Laemmels: The Lemmel tribe from Neustadt bei Chemnitz

Lämmel Family Line

Lämmel (Laemmel) - Name meaning: "Of The Passover Lamb"

(Possibly of Jewish-German ancestry)

Also spelled: "Lämmle", "Laemmle", "Læmmel", "Lemmel", "Lammels", "Limle", "Lämme"

(Pronounced: "Lamb-el"

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Shane Allen McFarland Lämmel

(Also known as: "Shane Laemmel", "Shano", "Braddah Shano")

Birthdate: March 25th, 1962

Birthplace: Sarasota Memorial Hospital, Sarasota, Florida

Denomination: Non-Denominational Christian

Military Service: USN (United States Navy), Rating & Duty Stations; Basic Training: Naval Recruit Command/Naval Training Center, Orlando, FL, CIS (Communications Intelligence Specialist) - A-School, Naval Training Center, San Diego, CA, USS Turner Joy (DD-951) - 32nd Street Naval Station, National City, CA (San Diego). Sea Duty: WESPAC/SOUTHPAC 1980 (sea trials with the Australia and New Zealand navies), WESPAC 1982 (NORPAC Exercises w. Republic of Korea Navy, COBRA GOLD Exercise w. Thai Navy & Marines incl. mock landing at Ban Sattahip, Con Son Island Incident w. Vietnamese Naval Gun Boats, Medals: Humanitarian Medal - Rescue of Vietnamese Boat Refugees in South China Sea), Ports Visited: Hawaii, Guam, Sasebo/Nagasaki/Kagoshima, Japan, Chinae/Pusan, Korea, Hong Kong, Subic Bay, Philippines, Ban Pattaya, Thailand, Singapore, Port Hedland/Fremantle/Port Lincoln/Melbourne/Devonport (Tasmania), Australia, Nelson/Tauranga/Auckland, Aotearoa (New Zealand), Pago Pago, American Samoa, San Francisco, CA

Parents:

Robert Arnold Laemmel

1934 -

Patricia Louise McFarland

1931 -

Family 1

Spouse:

Margarita Magabo

Birthdate: February 26th, 1955

Birthplace: Mulanay, Quezon, Philippines

Children:

1. Laila Margarita Laemmel (Gordon) b. May 26, 1984

2. Biyaya Neneng Laemmel b. February 6, 1986

3. Charity Rose Laemmel (Jenson) b. January 8, 1987

Family 2

Spouse:

Amancia Avila

Birthdate: June 6th, 1960

Birthplace: Cebu City, Cebu, Philippines

Children:

1. Angelica Kealoha Laemmel b. August 29, 1997

Family 3

Spouse:

Maria Lourdes Alcantara

Birthdate: 1975

Birthplace: Laoag, Ilocos Norte, Philippines

[no children]

Family 4

Spouse:

Jeannette Ilaga

Birthdate: May 17th, 1976

Birthplace: Manila, Philippines

Children:

1. Janessa Alene Laemmel b. December 28, 2008

Award Winner: Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools Creative Writing Competition in January 2020, 6th Grade.

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My Father:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's Grandfather:

Robert Arnold Laemmel (1934 - )

Birthdate: January 17, 1934

Birthplace: Township of Wayne, Wayne County, Metropolitan Detroit Area, Michigan

Denomination: Presbyterian

Residence in 1940: 14875 Superior Street, Ecorse, Wayne, Michigan

Death:

Military Service: United States Navy

Parents:

Charles "Charley" Henry Laemmel

1910 - 2002

Mildred B. Baenziger

1912 - 2000

Family 1

Spouse:

Alethea E. Newlin

Married: 1954 - Monroe County, Florida

Divorced: Oct 1956 - Monroe County, Florida

[children unknown]

Family 2

Spouse:

Jeannine K. Armbrust

Married: May 1958 - Orange County, Florida

Divorced: Dec 1958 - Sarasota, Florida

[children unknown]

Family 3

Spouse:

Patricia Louise McFarland (Hendry)

Birthdate: June 26, 1931

Birthplace: Covington, Kentucky

Denomination: Southern Baptist (On the rolls at First Baptist Church, Sarasota, Florida)

Married: November 1959 in Sarasota, Florida

Divorced: May 1965 in Sarasota, Florida

See: McFarland Line

Children:

1. Shane Allen Laemmel

Family 4

Spouse:

Barbara Jane Young

Birth:

Married: Jun 1965 - Manatee County, Florida

Death:

Children:

1. Robert ("Bobby") Arnold Laemmel, Jr.

Birthdate: August 5th, 1968

Birthplace: Greenville, South Carolina

Residence in 1993 in Mauldin, South Carolina. Residence in 1996 in Simpsonville, SC

1996- Address: 108 Bethel Rd., Simpsonville, SC, 29681

Married: Tania B. Buchanan

Children of Bobby & Tania:

1. Robert "Bobby" Laemmel, Jr.

2. Reagan Laemmel

Adopted children:

1. Denise L. Laemmel (b. 1952 - d. 2014)

2. Debra L. Laemmel (b. 1955)

3. Amy L. Laemmel (b. about? 1960)

4. Marcy Laemmel (b. about? 1962)

5. Eddie Laemmel (b. about? 1964)

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My Paternal Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's Great Grandfather:

Charles "Charley" Henry Laemmel (1910 – 2002)

Birthdate: August 12, 1910

Birthplace: Carlyle, Clinton County, Illinois

Denomination: Presbyterian

Death: December 11, 2002, in Riverton, Fremont County, Wyoming

Parents:

Louis Bernard Laemmel

1870-1934

Emma Katherine Buschmann

1871-1949

Family

Spouse:

Mildred B. Baenziger

Birthdate: December 10, 1912

Birthplace: Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan

Married: May 31, 1930, in Lucas County, Ohio

Death: October 15, 2000, in Riverton, Fremont County, Wyoming

Immediate family:

Daughter of Berthold Baenziger Jr. (1876–1942) and Martha Schwartz 1887–

See also: Baenziger Line

Children

1. Charles Richard Laemmel (b. February 1, 1932)

Family 1

Spouse: Beverly Sue Mock (b. Canton, Ohio, d. March 1982)

Children:

1 & 2. Twin daughters Melissa and Michelle (died shortly after birth) don't know dates

3. Cheryl Lynn Laemmel 1956-2006 (Married Mike Jewell 1975)

Children Sara Ann, Michael Ian, Thomas Isaac

4. Wendy Sue Laemmel 1960---- (Married James Duckworth 1980, divorced February 1997)

Children April Dawn 11/7/82, Derrick James 5/21/89

Family 2

Spouse: Alice Jane Gault (Thomason) (b. 1929)

Address: 8 Germander CT, Greenville, SC, 29615 (1996)

Phone Number: 864-297-5052

2. Robert A. Laemmel (b. January 17, 1934)

3. Marjorie "Margie" Laemmel (Compton / Williams) (b. March 21, 1935)

(She lives in Riverton, Wyoming)

About Charles "Charley" Henry Laemmel

Notes

Charles H Laemmel in the 1940 Census

Age 29, born abt 1911

Birthplace Illinois

Gender Male

Race White

Home in 1940

14875 Superior Street

Ecorse Township, Wayne, Michigan

References:

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/75348306/person/42313639674/story

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My Paternal Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's Great Great Grandfather:

Louis "Lew" Bernard Laemmel (1870 - 1934)

Birthdate: January 29, 1870

Birthplace: possibly in Illinois or Missouri

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Death: November 3, 1934, in Wayne, Michigan

Cause of Death: died of a heart attack.

Buried: Parkview Memorial Cemetary, Livonia, Michigan

Occupations: Carpenter, Farmer, Rancher, Politician, Building Inspector, in Lincoln Park, Michigan from 1927-1933.

Parents:

Johann Friederich Wilhelm Lämmel

1832 - 1874

Dorothea Elise Barthels

1834 - 1909

Family

Spouse:

Emma Katherine Buschmann

1871-1949

Emma Katherine Laemmel

Also known as: "Bushman"

Birth: April 29, 1871

Birthplace: Kaltenkirchen, Germany (some sources say she was born in Indiana or, Clinton, Illinois)

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Date of Marriage: January 7, 1892, when she was 20 years old.

Place of Marriage: [place unknown]

Death: March 26, 1949, in Lincoln Park, Wayne County, Michigan

Buried at Michigan Memorial Park, Flat Rock, Mich., Section 38 Block 8 Lot 3

Immediate Family:

Daughter of: [unknown] (possible?) Bernard Buschman and Katharina E. Eich (or, Johann Buschmann and Katharina Liebling)

Louis and Emma Laemmel on their wedding day, in 1892

Children:

1. Walter Frederick Laemmel / Walter William Frederick Laemmel (b. August 5, 1893 in Lincoln Park, Michigan (or, St Louis, Missouri) - d. May 8, 1970 • Dixon, Lee, Illinois)

1. Edna W.S. Louise Laemmel (Faurot) (b. February 25, 1896 in Detroit, Michigan (or, St Louis, Missouri) - d. December 26, 1947 • Lincoln Park, Wayne, Michigan). Married: William Lester Faurot on November 25, 1915.

2. Leonard Ernest L Laemmel (b. May 29, 1898 in St Louis, Missouri - Residence (1940): Tract 820, Lincoln Park City, Wayne, Michigan) - d. September 17, 1944 • Lincoln Park, Wayne, Michigan. Married Jeanette / Janet Marie Lavoie on April 5, 1929, in Licking, Ohio.

3. Hugo Clarence Laemmel (b. January 25, 1900 in Ann Arbor, Michigan - d. November 8, 1950 in Dayton, Ohio). Married Irma / Erma M Baenziger (my grandmother's sister).

(My relationship to Cynthia Ann Strauble:

- daughter of Thomas Ernest Straubel

- son of L.D. Ernest Straubel and Grace Margaret Oberstaedt Straubel-Laemmel

- Grace' 2nd marriage was to Howard Carl Laemmel on June 30, 1956 in Dearborn, Ecorse Township, Wayne County, Michigan.

- son of Hugo Clarence Laemmel and Irma/Erma Martha Baenziger (sister of my grandmother, Mildred B. Baenziger).

4. Arthur "Art" Ernest Laemmel (b. March 5, 1905 in Illinois - d. May 3, 1993 in Tucson, Arizona). Married Helen Gordon in 1926.

5. Charles "Charley" Henry Laemmel (b. August 12, 1910, in Illinois - d. December 11, 2002, in Riverton, Wyoming). Married Mildred B. Baenziger on May 31, 1930, in Toledo, Ohio.

6. Albert Henry Laemmel (b. December 17, 1916, in Wyandotte, Michigan)

???. Leonard Laemmel 1897–1983 ???

???. Albert Henry Laemmel 1916–1998 ???

Notes

Residences:

Lived in Venedy, Illinois, in 1880.

Lived in St. Louis, Missouri, in 1900.

Lived in Wheatfield, Illinois, in 1910.

Lived in Smith County, Texas, in 1920.

Lived in Lincoln Park, Michigan, in 1930.

1893-1900 in St.Louis, Missouri; 1910 in Carlyle, Illinois; 1916 in Detroit, Michigan. 1927-1933 in Lincoln Park, Michigan.

References:

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/65343004/person/38131880353/facts

Spouse:

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/75348306/person/42313639667/story

Possible parents of Spouse:

https://www.geni.com/people/Bernard-Buschman/6000000012479024077

https://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/bernard-bushman-24-22lfc7f?geo_a=r&geo_s=ca&geo_t=ca&geo_v=2.0.0&o_iid=41016&o_lid=41016&o_sch=Web+Property

https://www.myheritage.com/names/elizabeth_wieling

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My Paternal 2x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 3x Great Grandfather:

Johann Friederich Wilhelm Lämmel (1832 – 1874)

John Frederick William

Also known as: "Johann Friederich Wilhelm Laemmel", "William Laemmel" (changed his name upon arrival in U.S.), "John Frederick William"

Birthdate: September 1, 1832

Birthplace: Chemnitz, Sachsen (Saxony), Deutschland (Germany) (*see below)

Baptismal name: John Frederick William

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Arrival: ca. 1860 (settled in Missouri not long after)

Death: January 13, 1874 in St Louis, Missouri

Burial: Saint Johns Cemetery, Bellefontaine Neighbors, St. Louis County, Missouri

Plot: Lot 154, Section B,

Inscription: "J. F. W. Laemmel", Note: 3 are buried on this lot of 5. "J.F.W. Laemmel" has a grave stone; buried in unmarked graves are his wife, Eliza (Bartels) Laemmel-Henke, and Eliza's second husband, Fred Henke. Stone located by big Spruce tree near main gate.

Parents:

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel

1790-1850

Christiane Peter

1784-1858

Family

Spouse:

Dorothea Elise Barthels

Also known as: "Dorothea Elise Bartels", "Eliza Laemmel-Henke", "Elisabeth Barthel", "Elisabeth Hencke", "Eliza Bartels Henke"

Birthdate: October 22, 1834

Birthplace: Braunschweig, Niedersachsen, Deutschland (or, Lengede, Peine, Niedersachsen, Lower Saxony, Germany)

Denomination:

Married: April 12, 1863, when she was 28 years old.

Death: February 15, 1909 (74 years old), in Wheatfield, Clinton, Illinois (She died at Herman A. Meyers home)

Burial: Saint Johns Cemetery

Immediate family:

Parents: [unknown] (Possible ancestor?: Johann Gerd Diedrich Bartels)

Siblings: Dorothea Wilameheina Bartels Henke?

Arrival: 1853 New York, New York

[ Same person?: Marie Dorothea Elise zum Hingst ; Dorothea Louise Bartels ; Anna Dorothea Lämmel ]

Dorothea's 2nd Marriage:

Spouse:

Fredrich "Fred" Fritz Henke (1848–1894)

Children:

1. William Henke 1872–

2. Mary Henke 1874–

3. Charles Henke 1876–

4. Charlotte Wilhelmina "Minnie" Henke Medart 1876 - 1964

5. John Henke 1878–

6. Emma L. Henke Klocker 1878 - 1939

Children:

1.

Johann Friederich Hermann Laemmel (Herman John Laemmel / John Herman Laemmel) (b. 9 March 1866 d. 25 October 1954).

Burial: Valhalla Cemetery, Bel-Nor, St. Louis County, Missouri

Birth: August 1867

Bithplace: Missouri

Married: Louisa Urban, 14 May 1890, St. Louis, Mo.

Death: March 21, 1917 in Missouri

Burial: Valhalla Cemetery, Bel-Nor, St. Louis County, Missouri

Immediate family:

Daughter (poss. ?) of Sebastian Urban and Louisa Jane Murray

Poss. ancestor: Ludwig Lewis Urban (1737-1811)

Children:

Florence J. Laemmel (1891-1989)

Birth: 02 April 1891 • St Louis, St Louis, Missouri

Death: 10 December 1989 • Fulton, Callaway, Missouri

Burial: Hams Prairie Cemetery, Hams Prairie, Callaway County, Missouri

Mabel Elsie Laemmel (1893-1985)

Birth: 10 September 1893 • St Louis, St Louis, Missouri, USA

Death: 02 December 1985 • Fulton, Callaway, Missouri

Stella M Laemmel (1895-1983)

Birth: December 19, 1895

Death: October 1983

Robert Hermann Laemmel (1898-1956)

Birth: August 17, 1898 • St Louis, St Louis, Missouri

Death: January 19, 1956, in St Charles, Missouri

Burial: Valhalla Cemetery, Bel-Nor, St. Louis County, Missouri

Myrtle L. Laemmel (1906-1986)

Birth: April 7, 1906, in Missouri

Death: November 1986 in Auxvasse, Missouri

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3.

Louis "Lew" Bernard Laemmel (b. 1870)

Married:

Emma Katherine Buschmann, on January 7, 1892.

4.

Anna Katharina (Katherine) "Katie" Louise Margaretha Laemmel (Heintze) (b. 1874)

Married:

Ernst Heintze

Children:

1. Arthur Heintze

About Johann Friederich Wilhelm Lämmel (1832 – 1874)

William Laemmel, born 1832 "in Germany", went around 1860 to Missouri where he had more than 500 descendants including the children of the daughters. He came from Köttwitzsch in Saxony. See under Mo.

http://geneal.lemmel.at/USALemmel.html

Notes:

Name was changed from "Lämmel" to "Laemmel" after arrival in America (though there are many still in Europe with the latter spelling).

*Note: Alternate Birthdate & Birthplace - Janurary 11, 1830 in Rochlitz, Mittelsachsen, Sachsen, Deutschland.

Spouse: Dorothea Elise Bartels (German: Barthels). 4 children born to this union: Herman John, Conradina Anna Elizabeth (Lizzie), Louis Bernard and Anna Katharina (Katherine) Margaretha Laemmel.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139392221&ref=acom

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.germany.mecklenburg.mecklenburg-vorpommern/5164.5350.1.1.1/mb.ashx

http://search.ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=ChY1&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&rank=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Johann&gsln=L%C3%A4mel&gl=42&so=2

Johann Lämmel

in the New York, State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1794-1940

Record Type: Declaration

Declaration Date: 26 Sep 1882

Declaration Place: New York, New York

Name meaning of:

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel

Johann: typically a male given name, is the Germanized form of the originally Hebrew language name "Yohanan" meaning: "God is merciful". It is a form of the Germanic and Latin given name "Johannes." The English language form is John. In Gaelic it's Shane. It is uncommon as a surname.

Friedrich: a masculine given name meaning "peaceful ruler". Its meaning is derived from the Germanic word elements frid, or "peace", and ric, meaning "ruler" or "power". Germanic elements frid, fred 'peace' + ric 'power'. Frederick is the English form of the Germanic name.

Wilhelm / William: From the Old Norman French Willaume, which is derived from the Old High German Willehelm, a compound name composed from the elements willeo (will, determination) and helm (protection, helmet): hence, "resolute protector". William is the most popular name introduced to England by the Normans.

Lämmel (also, "Laemmel"): Composed of Lamb and El, meaning "of The Passover Lamb". (God / Christ, as Savior).

So his name, quite literally, means:

God is Merciful - The King of Peace - Our Resolute Protector - The Lamb of God, Christ our Savior

References:

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/65343004/person/38131880277/facts

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/75348306/person/42313639672/story

http://geneal.lemmel.at/USALemmel.html

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*Probable ancestry...

Children:

(Legitimate)

1. Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel

Birth: Janurary 11, 1830 in Rochlitz, Mittelsachsen, Sachsen, Deutschland

1858 married with a son. - Where?

About Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel (1790 - 1850)

Regeste to Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel:

→ Johann Wilhelm Friedrick Laemmel, born around 1840 in Germany, appears in Missouri, USA, around 1865. He married before 1865 an Elisabeth Barthel or Elisabeth Hencke.

Is he identical to the Johann Friedrich Wilhelm born in Rochlitz in 1830?

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://geneal.lemmel.at/Koet-37e.html&prev=search

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://geneal.lemmel.at/Koet-36c.html&prev=search

http://geneal.lemmel.at/Mo-39a.html

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My Paternal 4x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 5x Great Grandfather:

Johann Gottfried Lämmel (1744 - 1818)

Johann Gottfried Lämmel, Müller in Köttwitzsch

Birthdate: 1744

Birthplace: Großmilkau, Sachsen, Deutschland

Baptized: September 16, 1744 in Großmilkau, Sachsen, Deutschland

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Death: September 20, 1818 in Rochlitz, Sachsen, Deutschland

Occupation: 1764-1775 Mueller (stone miller) in Köttwitzsch. In 1785 again Müller (stone miller) in Köttwitzsch. 1818 also house owner in Rochlitz.

Parents:

Johann George Lämmel

1701-1764

Elisabeth Scheer

1705-1772

Family 1

Spouse:

Maria Rosina Zschill

Birth: circa 1745

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Married: 1764 in Rochlitz

Death: January 18, 1793 in Köttewitzsch

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Christoph Zschill (* about? 1715), Farmers and residents in Breitenborn.

Note: She wrote with Johann Friedrich Schreiber (circa 1745).

Children:

1. Johann Friedrich Ludewig Lämmel 9211 , * 17.1.1765 in Köttwitzsch, church Rochlitz, † 20.9.1765 in Köttwitzsch

2. Christian Friedrich Ludewig Lämmel 9212 , 24.2.1767 in Köttwitzsch, before 1818

His whereabouts are not known.

3. Johann Traugott Leberecht Lämmel, * 2.1.1770 - Horn-dialers in Claussnitz, see Koet-37 / c

4. Johanna Christiana Sophia Lämmel 9214 , * 29.10.1772 in Köttwitzsch, † 13.2.1775 in Köttwitzsch

5. Johanna Christiana Friederika Lämmel 9215 , 2.11.1774 in Köttwitzsch, † 11.3.1775 in Köttwitzsch

Family 2

Spouse:

Maria Regina Müller

Birthdate: circa August, 1758

Birthplace: Flößberg, Sachsen

Married: 1785 in Rochlitz

Denomination:

Death: April 12, 1821, located in Rochlitz

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Johann Christoph Müller (b. ca. 1720 - d. before 1785). Neighbor and horse in Flößberg.

Children:

1. Johann Friedrich Ludewig Lämmel, * 18.8.1787 - Gardener in Köttwitzsch, see Koet-37 / d

2. Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Lämmel, * 11.9.1790 - Trumpeters and judges, see Koet-37 / e

3. Johanna Christina Juliane Lämmel, * 15.9.1793 in Köttwitzsch, † 25.10.1841 in Rochlitz

Illegitimate connection 1823 with Johann Daniel Uhlemann, (* About? 1790), 1823 Shoemaker companies.

- Daughter: Christiane Lämmel 9224 , probably 1823, † buried 7.3.1823 in Rochlitz.

4. Carl Adolph Fürchtegott Lämmel 9219 , * 16.10.1798 in Köttwitzsch, † 20.10.1798 in Köttwitzsch

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My Paternal 5x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 6x Great Grandfather:

Johann George Lämmel (1701 - 1764)

Also known as: "Johann Georg Lämmel, Müller in Milkau, Poppitz, Köttwitzsch"

Birth: November 23, 1701 in Hormersdorf

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Death: December 12, 1764 in Köttewitzsch

Occupation: 1734 Pachtmüller (leased a mill) in Milkau. 1740 Pachtmüller (leased a mill) in Poppitz. 1744 Müller (stone miller) in Großmilkau. 1745 Tenant of the Sims mill in Köttwitzsch, which he bought in 1748 and sold to his son in 1759.

Parents:

Gabriel Lämmel

1674-1731

Maria Mehlhorn

1671-1707

Family

Spouse:

Dorothea Elisabeth Scheer

Also known as: "Elisabeth Scheer"

Birth: circa 1705

Denomination: (probably) Lutherisch (Lutheran)

Married: June 16, 1734 in Rochlitz

Death: September 24, 1772 in Köttewitzsch

Immediate Family:

Daughter of master Christian Scheer, citizen and shoemaker in Rochlitz.

Children:

1. Johanna Dorothea Lemmel, christened 6.3.1740 in Rochlitz, * in Poppitz

∞ Married 1757 in Chemnitz with Johann Gottlieb (Gottfried) Uhlig / Uhlich m868

(* About? 1735)

1757 Squire on the monastery mill of the Council and future Pachtmüller of the Schloßmühle in Chemnitz.

His father: Johann Uhlig m867 , * around 1711, † 18.7.1765 in Chemnitz

1757 Muellermeister in Chemnitz at the Klostermühle of the Council and owner of the Schloßmühle.

2. Johann Gottfried Lämmel, christened 16.9.1744 - Müller in Köttwitzsch

About Johann George Lämmel

My Paternal 6x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 7x Great Grandfather:

Gabriel Lämmel (1674 - 1731)

Also known as: "Gabriel Lämmel, Bergmann in Hormersdorf"

Birth: July 8, 1674 in Hormersdorf

Death: January 16, 1731 in Hormersdorf

Occupation: 1696-1698 Hat and miner on the colliery in Hormersdorf, then their Pachtmann and handworker.

Parents:

Gabriel Lämmel

1648-1696

Christine Illgen

1650-

Family 1

Spouse:

Maria Mehlhorn

Birth: circa 1671

Married: October 25, 1696 in Hormersdorf

Death: October 11, 1707 in Hormersdorf (36 years old)

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Fabian Mehlhorn (b. ca. 1640). Residents in Wildbach.

Children:

1. Maria Elisabeth Lämmel, * 13.5.1697 in Hormersdorf, † 3.6.1697 in Hormersdorf

2. Christoph Lämmel, * 7.4.1698 in Hormersdorf, † 24.4.1698 in Hormersdorf

3. Johann George Lämmel, * 23.11.1701 - Müller in Milkau, Poppitz, Köttwitzsch

4. Anna Maria Lämmel, * 6.7.1704 in Hormersdorf, † 30.11.1705 in Hormersdorf

5. Christian Lämmel, * 11.10.1707 in Hormersdorf, † 22.10.1707 in Hormersdorf

Family 2

Spouse:

Anna Maria Müller

Birth: March 11, 1681

Married: June 20, 1709 in Gornsdorf

Death: June 2, 1719 in Hormersdorf (She died agonizingly in childbirth)

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Jacob Müller (b. ca. 1650)

Cottage in Gornsdorf.

[no children - died at birth(?)]

Family 3

Spouse:

Christine Keller

Birth: circa 1690

Married: 1719

Death: unknown

Children:

1. Anna Maria Lämmel 21.11.1719 in Hormersdorf

Family 4

Spouse:

Maria Meischner

Birth: October 19, 1690 in Meinersdorf

Married: November 24, 1722 in Hormersdorf and Meinersdorf

Death: May 20, 1731 in Hormersdorf

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Barthel Meischner, (b. ca. 1655 - d. before 1722)

Children:

1. Anna Maria Lämmel, * 1723 in Hormersdorf

2. Christoph Lämmel, christened 9.3.1725 in Hormersdorf. His whereabouts are not known.

About Gabriel Lämmel (1674 - 1731)

Regeste:

• In 1696 he married in Hormersdorf as Gabriel Lämmel , juv. And Bergmann, Gabriel Lammel's resident son of Euer.

• 18., 19., 20.Trinit.1696 Squad in Wildbach and Hormersdorf, 25.10.1696 Marriage in Hormersdorf.

• Young. Maria, Fabian Mehlhorn s inmates to Wildbach ehel. Daughter.

[Offering in the KB Wildbach; Mtlg Pastor Sedner 1985]

→ Additional Lämmel entries were not found in Wildbach.

• Wedding in Hormersdorf: Gabriel Lämmel a bachelor, hut and miner alike on the colliery of God's blessing; With maiden Maria of the Fabian Mehlhorn builder in Wildbach married daughter. Cathedral 18., 19., 10. N.Trin. Proclamiret, and afterwards, according to held wedding preaching, have been copied here.

[KB Hormersdorf, Mtlg of the Pfarramts 1999; And according to R.Windisch 2008]

• 1697-1707, 5 children are born in Hormersdorf.

• 1697 Gabriel Lämmel , Bergmann at the colliery in Hormersdorf. The first daughter was born 28 weeks after the wedding. The godparents are from Hormersdorf.

• 1698 Hut- and Bergmann in Hormersdorf. The godparents are from Hormersdorf.

• 1704 Pachtmann at the parish in Hormersdorf.

• 1707 Handworker and housekeeper Gabriel Lämmel in Hormersdorf.

• 11.10.1707 dies the wife, 36 years old.

• 1709 Gabriel Lämmel , a widower from Hormersdorf and a housekeeper in Günsdorf.

• 1717: Gabriel Lämmel is godfather in Hormersdorf with Joh. Christian Brunners .

• In 1719, the second woman died: "She has experienced a hardness of childish need, and after having suffered indescribable torture for several days, but at the same time with human reason, she has not given birth, she died with her nursing on June 2,

• 1722 widower and dweller in Hormersdorf. The family name of the third woman is Meischner according to KB Meinersdorf, Meichner according to KB Hormersdorf.

• In 1734, Gabriel Lämmel , Hut- and Bergmann on the colliery called the Sorg-God, lived in Hormersdorf. (= Arsenic pit south of Hormersdorf, which is designated on old maps as Gifthütte) RW)

• No children from the 2nd and 3rd marriage.

[KB Hormersdorf; Marriage 1709 also KB Gornsdorf; Marriage 1722 also KB Meinersdorf; All according to R.Windisch]

→ In the supplement to Windisch: 2 children from 3.Ehe:

• The following children of Gabriel Lämmel from 3.Ehe born and baptized: 1723 Anna Maria; 1725 Christoph.

[Register of the baptism book Hormersdorf (the baptism book itself was not seen); Mtlg Pfarramt Hormersdorf 1999]

• Anna Maria, a daughter of Gabriel Lammel , Haußgenoss, and his wife, Christina n. Keller, in the year 1719, has her godparents : Dorothea Paul Seifferts , hereditary, married woman; Christoph, juv. Gabriel Leichsenring , housekeeper , eld son; Anna Maria, Andreas Clausens , Häusler, daughter of daughter.

• Christoph, an eld son of Gabriel Lämmels , a housekeeper, and his wife Marie, a née Meichner , was baptized 9.3.1725. No Lämmel-sponsors.

[KB Hormersdorf, RW 2008]

→ Questionable : 2.6.1719 the second woman died in her childbed, and already in November 1719 the daughter Anna Maria was born by the (third) wife Christina Keller . Is not the date correct? There is no marriage record for the wife Keller . (HDL)

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About Gabriel Lämmel (1648 - 1696)

Regeste:

• 1674 illegitimate son: Gabriel Lemmel , * 8.7.1674, mother Christine, Christiane Illgens illegitimate daughter. Gabriel Lämmel is the father, but he has declined paternity.

[Taufbuch Hormersdorf, Mtlg Pfarramt Hormersdorf 1999]

→ Apparently after 1674 in Hormersdorf no further children of Gabriel Lämmel.

→ Although Gabriel Lämmel rejects paternity here, he may be the father; Otherwise the child would have had to get the mother's name. The younger Gabriel is also described later in his marriage entry as the son of the older Gabriel Lämmel. (HDL)

• In 1677, he marries as Gabriel Lämmel , a fugitive son of Gabriel Lemmel , a resident and courtier in Auerbach / E.

[Church book Auerbach / E according to R.Windisch. After that, nothing is recorded in Auerbach / E.

• 23.1.1693 bought Gabriel Lämbel / Lämmel for 100 fl house and garden in Aue by his wife Catharina, widowed Hans Seckel , defensive.

[StsA Dresden, GB Aue No.20 for Aue 1634-1719 Bl.33, according to Kurt Wensch 1984; The GB Aue No.19 and 20 for 1569-1713 contain no further Lämmel entry]

→ In the church books of Aue there was no Lämmel entry despite good names. [Kurt Wensch 1985]

→ The early church books of Hormersdorf 1579-1697 have not yet been searched for Lemmel entries.

• In 1696 the Hormersdorfer Bergmann Gabriel Lämmel , a son of Gabriel Lämmel, moved to Auerbach.

[KB Wildbach]

→ Wildbach is close to Aue, where the father Gabriel bought a house shortly before.

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My Paternal 8x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 9x Great Grandfather:

Gabriel Lemmel (1608 - 1676)

Also known as: "Gabriel Lemmel, Peasant and Schöffe in Auerbach / E"

Birth: 1608 in Auerbach

Death: March 20, 1676 in Auerbach / E

Occupation: 1636-1676 Bauer (farmer) in Auerbach / E, most recently inhabitant, farmer and court in Auerbach / E (Schöffe means "juror").

Parents:

Valten Lemmel

1555-1617

Maria Thierfelder

1568-

Family

Spouse:

Marie Fischer

Birth: circa 1610

Married: February 15, 1636 in Auerbach / E

Death: April 14, 1678 in Auerbach / E

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Nick Fischer (b. ca. 1575 in Gornsdorf) and Catharina (unknown) (b. ca. 1580).

Children:

1. Christina Lemmel 9154 , * 1.1.1637 in Auerbach / E, † 5.4.1683 in Auerbach / E

Moved to the church treasure.

2. Catherina Lemmel 9155 , * 12.11.1644 in Auerbach / E

∞ before 1683 with Hans Uhlmann 9158

(* About? 1640)

3. Gabriel Lämmel, * 27.6.1648 - in Auerbach / E and in Aue, see AE-33 / e

4. Christoph Lemmel, * 18.5.1650 - in Auerbach / E, then where ?

About Gabriel Lemmel

Regesten:

• baptized Dom. Vigesima Tertia 1608 in Auerbach / E.

• 1636-1676 Farmers in Auerbach / E.

• Last residents, farmers and courtiers in Auerbach / E.

[Kirchenbücher Auerbach / E, according to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Descendants" Vol. 1, 54, 117, vol. 2, pp. 56, 35, 42, 57; Partly also according to R.Windisch]

• 1638 List of burnt houses and desolate estates, inhabited houses and the existing team in Amte Stollberg. Among them is Auerbach: Christoff Lemmel oberer; Gabriel Lemmel ; Valtin Lemmel ; Christoff Lemmel .

[Sächs.HStA Dresden, storage court court Stollberg 181, p. 10 b. - Mtlg Klaus Schröpel 1995.]

→ "in Gornsdorf" according to HEL is not correct.

Regeste to Nickel Fischer:

• Maria, Nick Fischer 's daughter of Gornsdorf, ∞ 1636 with Gabriel Lemmel .

[KB Auerbach / E]

• Catharina, Nick Fischer 's wife, is a godmother in Gornsdorf near Georg Lämmel , the founding father of the Gornsdorfer Lemmel.

[KB Gornsdorf]

Regesten to Christina Lemmel:

• February 1683 among the heirs of their brother Christoph. Shortly thereafter died.

Regesten to Catherina Lemmel:

• 1683 among the heirs of her brother Christoph.

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My Paternal 9x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 10x Great Grandfather:

Valten Lemmel (1555 - 1617)

Also known as: "Valten Lemmel, Scarf in Auerbach / E"

Birth: circa 1555 (probably in Auerbach)

Death: after 1617 (location unknown)

Occupation: From 1580 mentioned in Auerbach / E, 1594-1617 church presidency, then probably moved to an unknown place.

Parents:

Valten Lemmel

1510-1558

Unknown Mother

Family

Spouse:

Maria Thierfelder

Birth:

Married:

Death:

Immediate Family:

Daughter of

Children:

1. Magdalena Lemmel, baptized 16.9.1590 in Auerbach / E

∞ 15.5.1615 in Burkhardtsdorf with Joannes Stoppen (* About? 1585). His father: Gregorius Stoppen, (* about? 1555)

2. John Lemmel, baptized 10.9.1592 in Auerbach / E, buried .. 2. 1553 in Auerbach / E

3. Christoph Lemmel, get.Dom.n.Adv.1593 - Bauer in Auerbach / E

4. Valtin Lemmel, * 1596 - in Auerbach / E

5. Maria Lemmel, baptized 31.7.1599 in Auerbach / E

Twins:

6. Martinus Lemmel, baptized 14.8.1602 in Auerbach / E, † 20.9.1604 in Auerbach / E, drowned

7. Christina / Christian Lemmel, christened 14.8.1602 in Auerbach / E, c.17.p.Trin.1602 in Auerbach / E

"Christina" according to HE Lemmel, "Christian" according to R.Windisch.

8. Caspar Lemmel, * 1603 - in Thum and elsewhere

9. Gabriel Lemmel, * 1608 - Bauer and Schöffe in Auerbach / E

10. Anna Lemmel, * 1610 in Auerbach / E, † 1622 in Auerbach / E

About Valten Lemmel (1555 - 1617)

Regesten:

• Parishioner Entries 1580-1610 see separate sheet.

• In 1590-1610 Valten Lemmel was baptized in Auerbach / E ten children, four of whom died young, including Anna, baptized Wednesday before St. Veit 1610, buried Ash Wednesday 1622.

[Kirchenbücher Auerbach / E, according to R.Windisch, and according to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Descendants" Vol. 1 S.121 and Vol.2; Son Christoph, comp. AL1132 of the Central Office of Leipzig.]

• 1591 in Auerbach: Valt Lemmel has a house, a court, and half a hoof; He rejects the office, and gives it xv g (15 groschen) to Erichzins at Michaelis, and iiij g xj ch (4 Gr 11 Pfennig) to Erpzins at Walpurgis; He gives j ^ i ij ch (1 Schock Gr 3 Pf) horse steal money of 1/2 dishes and xij g (12 groschen) idem Handschrongeld gefelt half to Walpurgis half to Michaelis; He gives vg (5 gr) of wood money to Jacobi. - In addition, Merten Lemmel has a smaller property.

[Sächs. Main State Archives Dresden, Amtserbbuch Stollberg No.34 Loc.40097, 1591, Bl.491; According to Mtlg Kurt Wensch 1994]

• In 1589 Valten Lemmel pays 1 gr for the bought Stulle -Gut to the church, as well as 2 gr chair money.

• In 1590 Valten Lemmel borrowed 40 gr from the church. This entry occurs until 1592.

• In 1594-1617 Valten Lemmel was one of the two church leaders in Auerbach / E. This office had previously (his brother) Merten Lemmel .

• In 1603 Valten Lemmel pays the chair fee of 2 gr to the church.

[Church accounts Auerbach / E 1579-1611, according to R.Windisch]

• There are no death records for Valten Lemmel and his wife Maria née Thierfelder in Auerbach / E. [F.Drechsel 2011] Valten was last mentioned in the church leadership in 1617.

→ Error:

• † 4.10.1633 in Auerbach / E as "a court shool and a pious man".

[Church book Auerbach / E; According to AL8300 of the Central Office for Genealogy Leipzig; And according to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Descendants", Vol. 2, p.145f.]

→ This death date must be related to the son of the same name. [Note F.Drechsel 2011]

Regesten to Maria Thierfelder:

• Maria Thierfelder is the oldest daughter of Wolf Thierfelder , who has 12 children from his marriage to Anna Seidel , of whom the baptism entries are available from 1580 onwards. The children Maria, Anna, Margaretha, Paul and probably Hans were born before 1580. 1588 died the mother at the birth of the son Georg. [Mtlg Falk Drechsel 2007] - Maria, who married Velten Lemmel in 1588, may have been born around 1568 and the marriage of Wolf Thierfelder ∞ Anna Seidel may have been around 1567 (HDL).

Regesten to Magdalena Müller:

[Mtlg Falk Drechsel 2000, 2007]

• Your great-granddaughter from Loh's marriage, Anna Regina Lohs, born in 1686, married Theodor Lämmel from the Lemmel-Stamm Jahnsdorf in 1709.

Regesten to Anna Seidel:

• Your parents: Thomas Seidel , † 4.11.1581 Auerbach, ∞ Katharina, † 26.11.1594 Auerbach.

• In 1578, Thomas Seidel asked his brother Jacob Seidel to ask for his estate in his estate in Hormersdorf.

• Thomas Seidel bought back a piece of forest in Auerbach, which his ancestor "Mühlhensel" had sold to Friedrich von Schönberg some time ago.

[Mtlg Falk Drechsel 2007]

Regesten to Magdalena Lemmel:

• Magdalena, Valten Lemmel ' s daughter, is a sponsor in Auerbach / E

Christoph, son of Hans Kreußig , baptized (Liora?) 1606;

Magdalena, daughter of Hans Schüppel , christened on April 7, 1960;

Anna, daughter of Michel Haberland , baptized 1608;

Anna, daughter of Christoph Franz , baptized 5.5.1609;

Justina, daughter of Heinrich Teubner , baptized 22.10.1611.

[Taufbuch Auerbach / E according to R.Windisch]

• 1615 Marriage in Burkhardtdorf: The 15 May has been copulated joannes Stopping Gregorius Stopping son with Jungfraw Magdalena Valentini Lemmels to Awerbach marital daughter.

[KB Burkhardtsdorf 1615 No.4. Mtlg Falk Drechsel 2011]

• Error: I had previously confused this Magdalena Lemmel with her cousin of the same name, daughter of Martin. (HDL)

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My Paternal 10x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 11x Great Grandfather:

Valten Lemmel (1510 - 1558)

Also known as: "Valten Lemmel, in Auerbach / E"

Birth: circa 1510

Death: before 1558

Occupation: Farmer; Owner of a farm in Auerbach (15 km north of Annaberg), where his widow and 5 presumed sons follow him: Merten, Yorg, Valten (born after his dying age around 1555), Caspar, Nicol. 1546-1552 in Auerbacher tax records. 1558-1565 the Valten Lemmlin Hofbesitzerin in Auerbach / E.

Parents:

Georg Lemmel

1475-1544

Unknown Mother

Family

Spouse:

(Unknown Spouse)

Children:

1. Merten Lemmel, (about 1545) - Bauer in Auerbach / E

2. Yorg Lemmel, (* about 1550) - in Auerbach / E

3. Valten Lemmel, (* about 1555) - Schöppe in Auerbach / E

4. Caspar Lemmel, (* about 1555/1557) - landowner in Thum

5. Sophia Rosina Schreiber, (* about? 1735) - m. 27.6.1754 in Neustädtel with Johann Benjamin Dietz. * 11.8.1730 in Schneeberg, † 5.12.1787 in Neustädtel. Resident Citizen and Flaschnermeister in Neustädtel. In the ancestral list of Max Möckel he has the number 48. His parents: Johann Samuel Dietz 9530 , * 30.6.1692 in Auerbach / E, † 27.5.1751 in Schneeberg; ∞ 19.2.1726 in Schneeberg with Johanna Regina Erler 9533 , (* about? 1700).

About Valten Lemmel (1510 - 1558)

Regesten:

• Owner of a farm in Auerbach (15 km north of Annaberg), where his widow and 5 presumed sons follow him: Merten, Yorg, Valten (born after his dying age around 1555), Caspar, Nicol.

→ Progenitor of the Lemmel-Stammes Auerbach / E

(Not to be confused with another Lemmel tribe in Auerbach / Vogtland!)

• In 1546, Valt Lemel paid a tax of 20,000 pounds in Laurentii and Martini in Auerbach.

• In 1548, Valten Lemel pays house money in Auerbach 8 pf Hausgenossengeld.

• In 1552, Valten Lemmel in Auerbach at Catharina and Mattei pays 30 pounds per square meter of land tax. For servants he pays 1 g each, on both dates for 1 maid and 1 boy.

[Staatsarchiv Dresden, Landsteuerregister, according to Kurt Wensch; 1546: No. 324 Location 31 Reign of Frederick of Schönberg on Stollberg Bl.468 and 515; 1548: no.316 position 61 dominion Frydrich of Schonberg on Stollbergk Bl.209b; 1552: No.380 Position 342 Reigning from the Schoenberg to Stollberg Bl. 282b, 284, 314, 315b.]

• In 1558 and 1560 "the Valten Lemlin von Auerwach", a "witfrau", is mentioned. It buys from Jocof Osser von Krotendorf his shares in Hans Müllers Gut in Thalheim. Your witness is Wolf Lemmel of Neundorff:

• "On the Wednesday of the day after Bapti Anno 1558. i come to Jocof osser from Krotendorf to the Valten Lemen, and he has to give the same to nemlich 66 fl which has been on Hans miller's guent steent The witfrauen pages wolf Lemmel von Neundorff ... "

• "On Monday after Francis 1560 jar has come Jocoff osser from Krotendorf to the Valten Lemlenn widow to auerbachnnn has given to the fort he give to Hans mullers guent steent has yielded the valten Lemlenn the osser xxx alde ßo par gelt ... Also, Lemud of Neudorff on the wit woman's part. "

• 1565: Valthen Lemlin pays 1565 to the first date 10 groschen Landsteuer "of his house, court, Ecker, wood and 1 garthen" worth 30 shock. - On the seventh day of 1565, Valten Lemmlin pays ten dimes "from his gutt uff 30 shock".

[Land register, as above, no.474 location 39 Amt Stollberg.]

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel, "Descendants", Vol. 2, p.146.]

→ The origins of Valten Lemmel in Auerbach:

In older versions of this series, I had regarded Valten as grandson of Pauel Lemmel in Chemnitz, possibly on his son Blasius in Adorf. In 1992, Klaus Schröpel found the document of 1558 according to which Wolf Lemmel is a widow in Neudorf's guardianship of Valt Lemmel's widow. Here I see Wolf as Valten's brother; Both father is Georg, see C-29 / c . - Valet's grandfather is not Pauel Lemmel in Chemnitz, as was previously assumed, but his brother Hans.

→ To the sons:

Martin is the estate successor Valtens son, the forester Valten because of the same place of residence and first name.

Yörg is here only classified because of the residence in Auerbach as Valtens son.

Caspar Lemmel "von Auerbach" bought in 1585 in neighboring Thum; From his source, he must also be Valtens's son.

? Probably a Nicol Lemmel in Thum Caspars brother and thus likewise a son of Valten. Of course, Nicol was born after 1568, when Valten had been dead for several years. But I suspect that the mortal age is incorrectly stated, since it should be somewhat older because of other data.

A Lorenz Lemmel, who is the son of Tobias in Auerbach in 1582, is probably not a son of Valten, but rather the Lorenz Lemmel, born in Marienberg in 1559, see the Lemmel tribe of Marienberg.

→ Attention! An approximately equal old Valten Lemmel is trades in Oberwiesental. At first I had assumed that he was identical with Auerbach's Valten, but that turned out to be an error.

• In neighboring Hormersdorf, there is no Lemmel in the Land Register of 1542.

[Erhard Wagner, MFK 3/1984 p.586]

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My Paternal 11x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 12x Great Grandfather:

Georg Lemmel (1475 - 1544)

Also known as: "Georg Lemmel, Chemnitz, Plates, Judges in Krottendorf", "Jorge Lemmel", "George Lemmel", "Jorge Lemmell"

Birth: circa 1475

Death: after 1544

Occupation: 1501 Housekeeper in Neukirchen. 1502-1504 in Chemnitz. 1530 in Hockericht near Neustadt. 1534 in plates. 1544 Court administrator (and Hammerherr?) In Krottendorf.

Parents:

Hans Lemmel

1445-1526

Unknown Mother

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. Wolf Lemmel, (about 1505) - plates, Marienberg, then Judge in Neudorf

2. Valten Lemmel, (about 1510) - in Auerbach / E

probably:

3. Bartel Lemel, (* about? 1515) - estate owner in Jahnsbach and Gelenau

About Georg Lemmel

Regesten:

Summary : 1501-1504 Jorge Lemmel in Chemnitz and Neukirchen. 1530 George Lemmel in a stool. Was he already active in mining in the Erzgebirge at this time? 1537 (probably already 1534) House possession in the Bergstadt plates on the Bohemian side of the Erzgebirge. (The house is sold again by his son Wolf in 1538.) The name of Lemmer and Lenitzsch is mutilated in the Plattenhausbuch, whose scribe writes quite deficiently. 1544 Georg Lemmel Court administrator of the office Hartenstein in Krottendorf; Here there were 15 iron hammers.

• In 1501, Jorge Lemmell is headed in the Turks' control list of Neukirchen under the heading "House mate". (On the same list is Pauel Lemmell , but not as a housekeeper.)

[StsA Dresden, Turks tax list 1501, Bl.256a. Mtlg Lothar Wunderwald 1988 and Fotokopie by K.Wensch 1988]

• 1502 in the Chemnitzer Geschossbuch: Hans Lemmel (Hans painted, Jorg written about it), ubir the bridge.

1503 and 1504: Hans Lemmel , Ubir dy bridge; Jorge Lemmel , Ubir dy bridge.

[Council Archives Chemnitz, Chapter III, Section II, No. 42a: f.156 (1502), f.178a (1503), f.201 (1504). According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.183]

→ The correction of the entry of 1502 can be interpreted so that Jorg assumes the property of Hans, so that Hans can be regarded as Jorg's father. The Hans named after 1503 can be Jorg's brother.

• In 1504 Jorge Lemel was mentioned as the guardian of the widow of his brother Nick .

[See Regest at Nickel]

• 1530 in a stool: George Lemmel has a property of 9 pounds, for which he pays 6 g of taxes [Wensch]; Georg Lemmel gives 6 Pf of 40 [Wunderwald]. In 1547 there is no Lemm in Hockricht.

[StsA Dresden, Landsteuerregister 309 Location 46 Kloster Kempnitz Bl.153. - 1547: LSR 328/2. - According to K.Wensch and L.Wunderwald. Comp. Herbert E.Lemmel, "Origin" p.196]

→ From 1551, Valten Lemmel is mentioned as a gardener in Heckericht, see C-29 / f.3. Since there is no Lemmel in 1547 there is no succession, so that this Valten is probably not a son of George.

→ Errors: In the case of Herbert E. Lemmel ["History", Plate 1, Sheet 9], this Georg is classified as the son of the chemist Paul Lemmel, which is not correct: In 1504, Georg has a brother who has already died. Another nickel is the son of Paul, who can not be the father of the brothers Georg / Nickel.

→ Then probably mining in the Erzgebirge:

Probably identical with Jürge Lemischer / Lemel , who owned records on the Bohemian side of the Erzgebirge in the Bergstadt in 1537. His neighbor in Platten is Georg Thiel : the Chemnitzer neighborhood Thiel-Lemmel continues thus in plates.

Then probably identical with Georg Lemmel, the 1544 court administrator in Krottendorf near Annaberg, where he becomes the progenitor of the Lemmem tribes Neudorf , Cranzahl and Buchholz .

• In 1531-1532, the miners gathered in plates, as new corridors had been excavated. Much of the people came from Schneeberg, so that one could rightly call a colony of Schneeberg.

[Viktor Karell: The Erzgebirge and its Settlement, Verlag Vinzenz Uhl, Kaaden 1924]

→ A little later, in 1537, Georg Lemmel's house (= Jürge Lemischer) is mentioned in records. He himself did not come from Schneeberg, but his brother Hans Lemmel was at that time Bergunternehmer in Schneeberg.

• In 1534 the town was founded by Platten, which belonged to the Electorate of Saxony until 1546. At first, there were hardly any houses, and the building sites were only given up. A preserved book of houses was begun in 1535. In May 1537, Peter Enger 's court was named between the silver priest and Jürge Lemischer ( No. 31). In November 1537, this court house between Gregor Silberbrenner and Jorge Lenitzsch belongs to Mattes Beher (No.8).

[Erich Matthes: The House Book of the Saxon-Bohemian Bergstadt plates in the Erzgebirge, Degener, Neustadt, 1967]

→ It can be seen that the names Lemischer / Lenitzsch are exactly the same as Silberprucher / Silberbrenner. Other sloppy changes of name are War / Kriegisch or Rey / Reisich / Reißiger, so Lemel and Lemischer can also be considered identical, especially since it is apparently the house of Jürge Lemischer sold in 1538 by Wolf Lemel (probably Jürgen Lemmer's son) , (See Regest at Wolf Lemel.)

→ When Jürge Lemischer acquired his property is not listed. The acquisition, therefore, must have been effected before 1535, the beginning of the book, and thus already took place as the first distribution of the court in about 50 men by the electoral officials of the Bergrevier, Schneeberg and Schwarzenberg.

→ Neighbor of Jürge Lemischer's neighbor Peter Enger is Peter Schön (Matthes Nr.102). In Schneeberg are 1529 Ullrich Schön and Hans Lemmel Amtskollegen as judge and Schöppe.

• 1544, Thursday to Jakobi, Georg Lemmel and Peter Wanderer are court administrators (or relatives) of the office Hartenstein in Krottendorf. Schöppen are Mattes Schreiber , Albrecht and Christoph Öser and Heinz Schmidt .

[StsA Dresden, court registry office Hartenstein No.8, Amtshandelsbuch 1544-1554, Bl.14, according to EKöltzsch, K.Wensch ua]

→ In the following book no. 9 1557 (the grandson) Barthel Lemmel is mentioned as brother-in-law of Brosius Wanderer to Krottendorf.

→ For Oceans and Wanderers see [Christoph Johannes Oeser: Family Oeser from Crottendorf; In: Gen.Jb. Bd.44 2004 p.107ff].

→ Krottendorf belonged to the rule of Schönburg and had 15 iron hammers. There were 13 beautiful hammers there already in 1493. Thus, Georg's father was already active in Krottendorf. In 1559, Krottendorf came to Schwarzenberg, after the Elector purchased the beautiful Burgundian dominions around Krottendorf. [Mtlg EKöltzsch]

→ Sons: According to Georg, 1559 Wolf Lemmel was named as judge in neighboring Neudorf; He also sold Georg's house in plates. Wolf is George's son. Wolf is a guardian of the widow of Valten Lemmel in Auerbach / E, so that Valten must also be George's son. Probably Bartel Lemmel in Jahnsbach (close to Auerbach) is also George's son: Among Bartels descendants, the first name Georg is relatively frequent. (See introduction to the Jahnsbach tribe.)

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My Paternal 12x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 13x Great Grandfather:

Hans Lemmel (1445 - 1526)

Also known as: "Hans Lemmel, Merchant in Chemnitz", "Hensel Lemel", "Lämel"

Birth: circa 1445 (probably in Chemnitz)

Death: circa 1526 (probably in Chemnitz)

Parents:

Merten Lemmel

1415-1495

Hösel (unknown)

1420-1497

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. Jacob Lemmel, (about 1470) - Trades in Geyer and Marienberg

2. Nickel Lemel, (about 1470/1475) - in or around Neukirchen

3. Georg Lemmel, (* about? 1475) - Chemnitz, plates, judge in Krottendorf

4. Hans Lemmel, (about 1475/1480) - Bergmann and Schaeffe in Schneeberg

About Hans Lemmel

Regesten:

• 1495, 1496, 1497, Hans Lemmel (Hensel Lemel , Lämel), together with Brosius Herr, was registered for a possession "bey Sanct Nicl" in the Chemnitz register book. The storey book begins in 1495, so that the property may have existed before 1495.

• 1498 and 1499, the entry in the storey book is both times: Hans Lemmel, on the bridge at Sanct Nicklauß, Paul Lemmel dis jar in geschos. (Hans Lemmel is therefore absent or has already died.)

• In 1500, Hans Lemmel was named "the Brück near S.Niclauß", 1501 "ubir the Brück". (He has therefore returned, or his son of the same name has assumed the possession of the father.)

• 1501: House in front of Niklastor, hans lemel .

[Stadtarchiv Chemnitz VII IV 200 Turret Registration Registry Chemnitz 1501 Bl.21. - Mtlg H.Bräuer 1990]

• From now on, Hans Lemmel and Jorg Lemmel are alternately or jointly named for this possession; In 1503 Hans Lemmel acquires civil rights in Chemnitz. So they are probably the sons of the older Hans, who had just died there, and who had died shortly before.

• 1502 are named for this possession: Jorg Lemmel, Ubir the bridge; And Hans Lemmel, with Hans being punctuated and Jorg over it.

• 1503: Hans Zwabe (Zwabe crossed, behind it improved :) Lemmel, Ubir the bridge, and Jorge Lemmel, Ubir dy bridge.

• 1504: Hans Lemmel, Ubir dy bridge, and Jorge Lemmel, Ubir dy bridge.

• The tax amount 1495-1504 is 2 and 2 1/2 groschen. (According to Herbert E. Lemmel, this corresponds to a commercial operation.)

[Council Archives Chemnitz Chapter III Sekt.II No.42a. See Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.183, but where the interpretation of the entries is partly different.]

→ 1498 and 1499, Hans Lemmel is absent, and his brother Paul pays the taxes for him. Is he already in Schneeberg, where the son of the same name was later attested and where a profitable silver mining began around 1470? When Hans Lemmel is crossed out in 1502, it can mean that he died or moved away (according to Schneeberg?). (HDL)

• Brosius Herr , who was named together with Hans Lemmel, is said to come from Franconia, where a family gentleman also exists in the Lemlein family. Contexts, however, were not investigated. [Herbert E. Lemmel, Letter Feb. 1977]

• 1526 " Hans Lemmelyn" in Chemnitz among the house companions mentioned. (This is the widow of the older Hans Lemmel, otherwise Lemm no longer lives in Chemnitz in 1526.)

[Council Archives Chemnitz, Locat 9831, Markbuch der Stadt Chemnitz, no. 2, with register of all inhabitants of the city from the year 1526, sheet 125b. According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "History" p.297. - Vergl. DFA Bd.43 S.348f Tf.1 Bl.11 (K.Wensch)]

→ To the sons: Jorge and Hans Lemmel are supposed to be sons of the older Hans. The nickel, which had already died in 1504, has proved to be the brother of Jorge (in contrast to a younger nickel, which is the son of Paul). Jakob, the trades discovered in Geyer and Marienberg only in 1995, can be viewed as a descendant of the Merten Lemmel (see reason for C-29 / a Jakob); He might be Mertens' youngest son, but he is more likely to be regarded as his oldest grandchild, so he must be the eldest son of Hans. (HDL 1996)

→ Herbert E. Lemmel ["History" p.297] took only one Hans Lemmel in Chemnitz from 1495-1504. After 1502 (the older one) Hans Lemmel is crossed out and 1503 (the younger) Hans Lemmel acquires the civil law of Chemnitz, at this time I accept the change of generations between father and son of the same name. - Jorge / Georg Lemmel was the son of Paul Lemmel at Herbert E. Lemmel; Since Paul's sons are known from other sources, he may be Paul's nephew, son of the older Hans.

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My Paternal 13x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 14x Great Grandfather:

Merten Lemmel (1415 - 1495)

Also known as: "Merten Lemmel, Merchant (cloth trader?) In Chemnitz", "Martinus Lemlein de Pabenberga", "

Birth: circa 1415 in Bamberg

Death: between 1476/1495

Occupation: 1431 Martinus Lemlein de Pabenperga at the University of Vienna. 1476 Merten Lemmel Kaufmann (merchant) in Chemnitz in the Webergasse.

Parents:

Mertein Lemlein

1385-1447

Unknown Mother

Family

Spouse:

Hösel (unknown) (?)

Birth: circa 1420

Married: date unknown

Death: after 1497

Children:

1. Hans Lemmel, (about 1445) - merchant in Chemnitz

2. Paul Lemmel, (about 1450) - in Chemnitz, Neukirchen and Adorf

maybe:

3. (daughter) Lemmel, (* about? 1445/1450)

m. with ... Syptenheyn c049

(* About? 1440)

His father: Hans Syptenheyn c078 , (* about? 1405)

1445, 1449 Mayor of Chemnitz.

maybe:

4. (daughter) Lemmel c051 , (* about? 1445/1450)

m. 2) with Steffen Schumann

(* About? 1440)

About Merten Lemmel

Regesten:

• In April 1431, Martinus Lemlein de Pabenberga and Michael Klieber de Pabenberga signed up at the University of Vienna.

[The Matrices of the University of Vienna, Verlag Böhlhaus, Graz-Köln, vol. 1, 1956]

→ The origin "de Pabenberga" is normally the father's current place of residence. Among the well-researched Bamberger Lemlein, this Martinus Lemlein can only be classified as the son of the older Mertein Lemlein, who lived at that time in Bamberg, but then went to Chemnitz in 1437.

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel "Miszellen" p.263-266, where this student Martin was classified without convincing reason as son of the Bamberger / Nuremberg Michael Lemlein]

• In 1437, he probably went to Chemnitz together with his father from Bamberg.

• 1476 Merten Lemmel "in the Webergasse" in Chemnitz in the Register of Market Law. He pays 2 bricks.

[Council Archives Chemnitz, Locat 9831, Schöffenbuch der Stadt Chemnitz 1458-1483, Register of the margkrechtes. According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.181 and "History" p.295. Also according to K.Wensch. - No lemma is otherwise listed under the contracting parties of the legal transactions of this volume.]

• 1495: The Merten lemelyne pays 23 gr taxes, Hans Neef 22 gr, Ulrich Schütz 2 shock.

[Council Archives, Chemnitz, Chapter III, Sect.II, No. 42a, pp. 7ff. - According to "Origin" p.181 footnote 616]

• He owns a large house at the Salzmarkt, the preferred residential area of ​​the Chemnitz-based retailers; In 1466, the house belonged to Peter Hösel , who is probably Mertens's father-in-law; Neighbors are Hans Neef , a well-to-do councilor, and Ulrich Schiitz , one of the richest men of the Erzgebirge; In 1495, the house of the widow Merten Lemelyne , who lived there together with Schumann and Syptenhayn (the sons-in-law)? She pays 23 dime taxes, which is a considerable asset for Merten Lemel.

• In 1496 the Merten Lemelyn sells her house at the Salzmarkt to Nicl Philipp (who is perhaps a Schwiegersohn).

• In 1496, it possesses a land estate "uff of the alden Steyngruben" near Sankt Nikolai.

• In 1497 she has the same property and lives together with Valty Tyl , the mother-in-law or sister-in-law of Ulrich Schütz , in a smaller house in Clostergasse.

• From 1498 she was no longer mentioned, so that she would have died in 1497/98.

[1495, 1496: Ratsarchiv Chemnitz, Chapter III, Sect.II, No.42a, f.7 of 1495 and f.29 of 1496. According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.181 and "History" p.295. There also further explanations for this.]

[1496, 1497: ibid., F.31 u.42 of 1496, f.50 of 1497. In 1498 the merten lemelyne no longer appears in this store-book. According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.182; "History" p.284,325.]

→ The fields on the old Steingrube border on Markersdorf and Stelzendorf, where from 1530 and 1547 the grandsons Lemmel are named.

• Between about 1350 and 1450, Chemnitz was primarily a textile town. It was not until 1460 that new rich silver ore deposits were discovered in the Erzgebirge. In the 1460s, the Chemnitz citizen and ruler Thyle had a Seigerhütte at the Chemnitz river in the Aue, which he inherited from his son-in-law Ulrich Schütz (* 1432 in Nuremberg). This became the head of a widespread trading company that exported ore and silver.

[Heinrich Weigand: Chronicle of the City of Chemnitz. Series: Chronicles of German Cities, Vol. 19, Berlin, 1938, p.24.]

→ "in the Aue" corresponds to today's road "Aue", which extends before the Nicolaitor up the Chemnitz river in the direction of the Steingrube of the Merten Lemelyn and in the direction of the garden of the altarist Michel Lemmel.

[Herbert E. Lemmel, letter Feb.1977]

→ Another son could be a business Lemm in Marienberg, whose widow Margarethe is named there together with Nickelschutz and Georg Hösel (same names as the Chemnitzer neighborhood). According to recent records, I prefer to classify the trades in Marienberg not as the youngest son but as the oldest grandson of Merten Lemmel; See Lemmel-Stamm Marienberg .

→ Error:

Herbert E. Lemmel (born in 1466, 1566) is the son of Thomas, who studied in Leipzig in 1466 as a "misnensis". At Georg Erler, a student of the Univ. Leipzig, Leipzig, 1895, p. 258, the latter is, however, Thomas Lummel / Lumel , without indication of origin, under the Nacio Misnensium. There is no reason to interpret Lummel as a variant of Lemmel, especially since a St. John's Lummel "de Lipczk" is registered under the Nacio Misnensium in 1474, and the name Lummel frequently occurs in North Germany.

Regesten to ... Syptenheyn:

• Counselor in Chemnitz, 1495 together with Steffel Schumann in the former Lemmel house on the Salzmarkt.

[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.181]

• The son of mayor Hans Sypenheyn . (HDL)

Regesten to Steffen Schumann:

• 1495 Counselor Syptenheyn together with Steffel Schumann in the former Lemmel house at the Salzmarkt in Chemnitz.

→ Error: "probably 1502: Steffen Schumann is the stepfather of a nephew of the Paul Lemmel" . [Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.187] This regest belongs to a younger Steffan Schumann (who may be a son of the older one) in 1535. HDL

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My Paternal 14x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 15x Great Grandfather:

Mertein Lemlein (1385 - 1447)

Also known as: "Mertein Lemlein, Merchant in Bamberg and Chemnitz", "Martinus Lemlein de Pabenberga"

Birth: circa 1385

Death: after 1447

Occupation: 1431-34 Merchant in Bamberg. From 1437 in Chemnitz ("lemel der elder"). 1446,47 mentioned in Bamberg: outside. Progenitor of the Lemmem tribe of Chemnitz.

Parents:

Hans Lemlein

1360-1429

(Unknown) Tockler

1360-

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. Merten Lemmel, (approx. 1415) - merchant (cloth trader?) In Chemnitz

2. Michel Lemmel, (approx. 1430/1435) - Notary and altarist in Chemnitz

About Mertein Lemlein

Regesten:

• April 1431: "Martinus Lemlein de Pabenberga" writes "Michael Klieber de Pabenberga" at the University of Vienna.

[The registers of the Univ. Vienna, publishing house Böhlhaus, Graz-Cologne, vol. 1 1956.]

→ According to this, the father of the student Martinus Lemlein must have lived in Bamberg in 1431. Because of the same name, Mertein Lemlein, who is one of the three brothers of the following kingdom, is likely to be.

• 12.11.1431 Katharina, the widow of Hanns Lemlein , " bought from the former that Hans Lemlein had been sent to her sunnies, that she had sent the Lemlein to her sunnies," a "eternal Gult "of 20 florins per year.

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, Urk., 12.11.1431, according to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p. 15, 134 and "Miscells" p.264.]

• 1433: Hanns Lemlein, the oldest of his brethren, confirmed the reception of the following Episcopal fiefdoms: 1 court to Sweyssdorf, 1 estate, 2 Simra Korn from 1 Gütlein and 1 to Trevistz, 2 Gütlein to Trunstat, Holy Sepulcher near Bamberg.

• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • 1434 Lectures: Caspar vom Stein at Northeim sat Heintz Lemlein and the sons of his brother Hans Lemlein, citizen of Bamberg, with 2 farms, 1 estate, 1 mill to Klewkey and 1 meadow to Prechting.

[Germ. National Museum Nuremberg, Imhoff Archives Fasc.26 (Lemlein Archives) Urk 13b of 1433 and 14 of 1434.]

• 1437 " Lemel der elder" pays 10 dimes for castle rights in Chemnitz.

• 1437 Sunday Judica "c gl zenburg rights of Lemel the elder".

[Counseling Chemnitz, Chapter III Sekt.II No.53a, Vol.1, Ingestion Manual 1426-1438 fol. 73 '. - According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.174ff and "Miscells" p.276.]

→ Previously, in 1427, "Lemel" (probably Mertein's younger brother Michel) had become a citizen in Chemnitz; Michel, who was apparently relieved there from his brother Mertein in 1437, goes to Nuremberg, where he can be proved from 1442 onwards.

• In 1433 and 1434 the brothers (Merten, Michel and Hans) Lemlein in Bamberg were still communicated in common (see above). From 1442, Michel and Hans Lemlein lived in Nuremberg, and were exempted without mentioning Merten, and without mentioning Merent's death and the passing on of his fiefdom. After his move to Chemnitz, Merten would have been economically separated from his brothers.

[German. National Museum Nuremberg, Imhoff Archive Fasc.26 (Lemlein Archive). - According to Herbert E. Lemmel, but with a revised interpretation of the connections.]

• In 1446, Hans and Martin Lemlein were named in a legal dispute as the owner of a house in the Langengasse in Bamberg, represented by Hans Ruger . So you are not present in Bamberg.

[Hist. Association of Bamberg, Rep.2 / 1 Nr.2 - St.GB1445 / 48 fol.209 and fol.218 '. - According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.136.]

In Bamberg the "Stewrer... Are situated on the high-worthy hewsere In Bamberg", including "hannsen lemlein et fratres hewser unnd habe".

[Hist. Association of Bamberg, Rep.2 / 1 Nr.2 - St.GB1445 / 48 fol.299 '. - According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.136 and "Miszellen", Bl.f.fränk.Fam'kde Bd.9 p.273, 1968.]

→ After this, Hanns lemlein and his two brothers are no longer in Bamberg: Mertein since 1437 in Chemnitz, Hanns since 1440 in Nuremberg, Michel since 1442 at the latest in Nuremberg.

→ Troubleshooting:

Considerations of Herbert E. Lemmel, according to which Mertein Lemlein is identical with a "Martin von Zwickau" in Bamberg in 1416 ["History" p.335-337], or that a Paul " Lemmer " is his son in Plauen, I consider unfounded ,

Herbert E. Lemmel [origin p. 177] also ordered a Leipzigerin, the "Lemmelyne" of the Turkish tax list of 1481, the Chemnitzer Lemmeln; This is wrong: this entry is called "Lummelyne" correctly and is not to be read as "lemmem free" (HELemmel) as lemmem, because in Leipzig the family Lummel is old and an interpretation as Lemmel can not be justified. (HDL)

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My Paternal 15x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 16x Great Grandfather:

Children:

1. Katharina Lemlein, (* about? 1385) - m. Haller, in Nuremberg

2. Mertein Lemlein, (* about? 1385) - merchant in Bamberg and Chemnitz

3. Michel Lemlein, (* about? 1385/1390) - wholesale man in Nuremberg

probably:

4. Wernher Lemlein n182 , (* about? 1385/1390), † 1408

5. Caspar Lemlein (?)

Family 2

Spouse:

Katharina Klieber

Birth: About? 1370

Married: about 1390/95

Death: after 1431

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Engelmar Klieber n162 , (* about? 1345), † before 1397. In Bamberg, Karolinenstr. 18. 1379-1392. Witness. 1391 Judge.

Her brother was Eberhard Klieber (m. with Barbara Zingel , daughter of Conrad Zingel in Nuremberg).

Children:

1. Hans Lemlein, (about 1395) ?

About Hans Lemlein

Notes: Hans Lemlein, counselor in Bamberg and Nuremberg, temporary mayor in Nuremberg.

When he was a counselor in Bamberg, there was a dispute between the prince-bishop and the burgess, who was to be settled by Emperor Sigmund, who was now in Basel. In Basle were the prince-bishop and several Bamberger rulers. At first Emperor Sigmund was favorable to the Bamberger Council. But some of the councilors resigned their resentment at the bishop in such a tangible manner that a bishop's injury to the throne came, which had to return to his Domburg to Bamberg. And among the violent rulers was Hans Lemlein. The emperor's arbitration now fell against the councilors. They were subjected to a fine of 60,000 guilders. This forced the leading Bamberg families to leave Bamberg.

Hans Lemlein went to Nuremberg, his brother Martin to Chemnitz. The third brother, Michel, was first registered in Freiberg in 1413 as a robber, and finally went to Nuremberg. After his departure from Bamberg, Hans Lemlein was admitted to Nuremberg, came to the Council, and was mayor several times.

Sources:

http://geneal.lemmel.at/NurnbergBilder.html

http://geneal.lemmel.at/ersteChemnitzerL.html

Regesten:

Summary :

• From 1399 until his death in 1428 mentioned in many Bamberger documents. 1410 Town builders. From the title of "Lord," he is perhaps already a gentleman in 1415, while from 1404 to 1420 his younger brother is Heinz Schoeffe. In 1420 Hans Lemlein was a monk in Kuttenberg, in Bohemia, from where he had to flee from the Hussites in 1421. At the end of 1421 he dissolved his brother Heinz in Bamberg. He remains a monk until his death in 1428. Died between 23.3.1428 and 1429.

• Possession: Household property in Bamberger Zinkenwörth, on the sand, "on the Steinweg in the Teuerstadt"; The Lemleinshof (Habergasse 3); A farm to Obernhaid, Lehen on the Heidelsteig and in Leithbach, Steinfeld and Ebensfeld, Altendorf, Treunz and Trunstadt, Schamendorf with Weismain, Wachenrod, Zapfendorf, Sweistorf, among others

• His seal: standing lamb on Three Mountain; Over the shield a helmet; Over there a lamb. The knightly helmet, which can only be found in the seal of Hans, not in the seals of his brothers, may be the reason why he is erroneously regarded as a knight in Nuremberg genealogies.

• The spelling of the name is almost exclusively Lemlein (1399-1428), occasionally Lemblein (1411), Lämblein (1415), Leimlein (1421).

Regeste :

• 1399/1400 Actions after the death of the father :

• 12.8.1399: The brothers Heinz and Hans Lemlein sell the house of their sister Anna in front of Hans von Lichtenstein and the appointee of the town court in the tine to the left hand, one for Heinz Welman, for Eberhard Pottensteiner 's house S house, on the other side of Hans Behem ' s court yard, against a perpetual interest of 1 fl, and one fasting - nethorn at Cunrad and Kunigunde Paternoster .

[HVB, Urk. Of 12.8.1399 no.116; According to Hans Paschke: "Lämleinsgasse and Lämleinshof in Bamberg", 101.Ber.d.Hist. Association Bamberg 1965 p.292f.]

→ Paschke assumes that it is the plot No. 93, Zinkenwerde 29.

• 26.3.1400: Heinrich, Johann (et Petrus, later crossed out!) The lemlein filii habent in feodum

• xxx Jugera situm on the hillside in front of the hawtsmorde,

• item a Rewtszehen situm in nitte leitterbach,

• item a third part of the village to the (= without) one part.

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, A221 Statute 1, Lehenbuch of the Bishop Albrecht von Wertheim 1398-1421, f.16; Copy; Date not shown here]

[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.16; Here dated 26.3.1400]

• 1406: Heinricus and Johannes lemlein Cives Bamberg. Portat mannsedele (?) Balthasar filio quondam Friderici Ammon to the first a desolate court to Lawbent with Holtz, meadows, Eckern and all its belongings ....

[StA Bamberg, A221 StB 1 / I, Lehenbuch of the Bishop Albrecht von Wertheim 1398-1421, f.46 ', Fotokopie]

→ In the immediately following entry, Günter and Friedrich Münzmeister are lent with a Gut to Windisch-Schletten, where later the Lemlein sit.

• 1406 actions after the death of the mother :

• In 1406, Hans Lemlein, from the inheritance of the father Conrad, received: 1/4 village-like to Steinfelt, v.Gich fief, as well as Kleinzehend to Ebensfelt, fief of the Schotten.

[GNM Imhof Archives Fasc.26 (Lemlein-Archiv) Urk.Nr.2, with seals. - See in detail with the father Conrad]

• 7.12.1406: Peter Lemlein pledged his share of the 1400 legacy mentioned at the Heidelsteig to his brother Hans, after which he replaced it for 90 Flanders from Veidel Jews.

[HVB Rep.2 / 1 No. 1 (StGB 1403/15) f.49; According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.16, 44, 66,]

• 1407: Hans Lemlein buys from his brother Peter the court at Obernheide, fief of Aysch , and 31 Ackerfeld at the Hochsteig, fief of the Bamberg bishop.

[For details, see B-25 / f Peter]

• In Bishop Albrecht v.Wertheim's Lehenbuch 1398-1421: Heinrich and Johann the Lemlein , citizens of Bamberg, are listed with the following fiefs:

• [Bl.16, Year?] Heinr . Et Johann (et Petrus durchgestrichen!) 30 juga sit at the Heidelstig in front of the Hawsmorde (?) ... a Rewtzehen sit in another Leitterbach ... a third part of the village tzehend on a zwolf part ...

• [Bl.46 ', 1406] a desolate court (Lawbent?) With wood, meadows, fields, among others

• [Bl.107, 1419] in Treunz and Trunstadt.

• Paul Kliber (senior?) And Heinrich Lemlein [Bl.86, 1415] in Wachenrod.

• [Bl.112, 1419] Heinricus Lemlein , civis Bambergensis, in Gasselstorff near Rotenpuhel.

• [Bl.74] a Heinrich Lewblein from Herzogenaurach (probably no Lemlein!)

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, A221 Statute 1. - Copies and partial transcription by Gerhard Lemmel]

• Before 1410, the Burgerhof was built on the site Nr.491 / 493, Jesuitenstr. 7 to 11, for which 2 city builders are responsible, elected annually by mayor and council; Ohnen is responsible for the supervision of the skilled workers, the other for the finances. The first documented town builders are 1410 Hans Lemlein and Ulrich Küchenmeister , 1435 Heinrich Snepf and Clas Haller , 1437 Fritz Zollner and Conz Tockler etc.

[Hans Paschke: The Au to Bamberg. Issue 29 of the studies on Bamberg history and topography, 1965, p.56]

In 1411, Heintz Gundloch the Elder, Heintz Gundloch the Younger, his son, and Walthasar Heider , citizen of Bamberg and guardian of Erhard Heider , son of Blessed Hans Heider, on the one hand, as well

Heintz and Hanß Lemblein Gebrüder, citizens of Bamberg, on the other hand,

A treaty on the court of Lemlein, and the title of Gundloch / Heider to Obernheid, which had been obscure.

[StsA Bamberg, (A163 according to the inscription of the Fotokopie) or (A136 according to the note Gerhard Lemmel), L 233 Nr.1509. - Fotokopie und Maschinenschrift by Gerhard Lemmel 1984.]

• Similar to 2.6.1413.

[F. Schlegler, History of the Parish of Oberhaid, 24.Ber.d.Hist. Verein Bamberg, 1860/1861, p.85, as well as p.135, supplement 7 of 2.6.1413]

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel "Origin" S.67f]

• 11.1.1412 and 27.1.1412: Heinz and Else Schellhammer pawn their newly built property in Zinkenwerde on the Perfit and next to the Perfit twice by 100 fl at Hans Lemlein .

[Stadtgerichtbuch HVB Rep.2 Nr.1 ​​f.115,116 '; According to Hans Paschke, 101.BHVB "Lämleinsgasse ..." p.246]

• 23.2.1412: The Heinz and Hans Dockler brothers sell their garden to the St.Clara monastery at the top of the monastery, which meets the Regnitz, on the other hand, with the fish water at the "Lembleinfeld" .

[StA Bamberg Rep. A 140 L.150 No. 268; According to Paschke 101.BHVB p.297]

• 1412: The town council of Bamberg confirms that Hanns Lemlein , citizen of Bamberg, Michel Swartz at Bamberg bought his own court at Altendorf. - In 1403, Michael Swartz , citizen of Bamberg, had taken a letter to the Landgericht at Bamberg to a field in the Mark at Altendorf near Hirscheid.

[Germ.Nat'Museum Nuremberg, Imhoff Archive Fasc.26 (Lemlein Archive), Urk.5 u.1.]

• 1415: Conrad Zolner has "a house and hopes for the sands of the Ringellein, where he lived Itzund, and on the other hand, to Sintram Greffen , and to the lamblein s garden above, with the full stairs to the Stull-Brothers." : Paulus Klieber , Conrad Usner , hans Zolner , Conradt Zollner , krafft Trockauer , fritz lawant , Clas lorper , heintz lemlein , Engelhart cake master , praun Ingram , Conrat hassfurther , Vitus Sebot and other ersam leuth.

[38th Report of the Bamberg Society, 1875 p.78 / 79]

→ To conclude from the title "Lord", Hanns Lämblein already holds a honorary office in 1415; It is true that, according to the well-known documents, he is mentioned in the series of the Bamberger Schöffen only in Dec. 1321.

• 1418: Hermann Vischer and Peter Scheffer a verifier have praised with good to Eydes stat a viral iars of the Stat and newn mile to be of the Unfur (?) Because of which they have committed with night at Hansen Lemleins Hawse and sulle after Of the time on know the burger in not.

Actum .... 3 ante Thome (aplt?) Anno 1418.

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, Oath and Obligatory Book B4 / 34 p.154, Fotokopie by GL 1981]

[Comp. AKöberlin: A Bamberger real book (liber proscriptorum) 1414-1444. In: 59. Report of the Court of Bamberg, Bamberg, 1898, p.51]

• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • 27.6.1418: Peter Truchess, the founder of the bishopric of Bamberg, vidimed at the request of Heintz and Hanns der Lemlein , brethren, citizens of Bamberg, four fief letters from Eberhard Klieber , Engelmar Klieber's son Trevistz, Trunstat, Welkendorff, Neusezz and Ludbach in favor of the Lemlein mentioned , his brother- in-law.

[StAN Rst.Nbg. Monastery Pillenreuth Urk.50. - Internet 2015]

• 12.7.1418: Chunrad Zingel , citizen of Nuremberg, has rights

Three parts of the tithe to horse-fold, and two little houses,

A quarter to Ludbach,

A tithe to Wollendorf,

A tithe, and a little treasure,

Two Simrekorns from the spoonful of good, and two goods for the trespass,

A good to Newsess.

These rights were awarded to the Chunrad Zingel , and he handed them over to Hannsen Lemmlein , citizen of Bamberg.

[Online 2015, StAN Rst.Nbg. Monastery Pillenreuth, Urk.51]

• 1418 Buying letter: Eberhart Klieber (son of Engelmar Klieber) and his wife Barbara (daughter of Conrad Zingel and Kathrein in Nuremberg) sell his share of various feudal goods to his brother-in-law brothers Heintz and Hans the Lemlein Shares, namely

To Trewnz 1 Good, 2 Simra Korn from 1 Gütlein, the Tohend,

To Trunstat 2 goods, all episcopal Bavarian fief,

1 Going to Welkendorf, dompröpstlich bambergisches fief,

1 Good to Newsezz, fief of the knight Peter Truchsess ,

3/4 at the toe of the horse-fold and two goods there, fief of the knight Conrat Marschalk to the Sney,

1/4 Pointing to Ludbach, fief of Gich .

• Conrad Zingel , citizen of Nuremberg, and his wife, Kathrein, sell their share of the abovementioned feudal goods with the full power of their son-in-law Eberhart Klieber and his wife Barbara née Zingel .

• 1419 Lebedbrief: Bishop Albrecht of Bamberg lends the brothers Heintz and Hanns Lemlein , citizens of Bamberg, the above mentioned goods to Trewnz and Trunstat.

[Lemlein Archives, like 1406, Urk. 6, 7, 8.]

• 1419: Heinr. Et Johannes the Lemlein fratres Cives Bambergen ... in Treuntz ... in Trunstat ... Eberhard Klieber nato Engelmar Klieber ... ... lemlein ...

[StaatsA Bamberg A221 Standbook 1, Lehenbuch by Bf Albr.v.Wertheim 1398-1421, f.107; Copy, very poorly readable]

→ About Klieber , Tockler , etc. in the 14th and 15th century. In Bamberg, see Copialbuch-Regesten in the 10th and 11th Report of the Historischer Verein Bamberg, Bamberg 1847, 1848.

→ A Nuremberg genealogy indicates that Hans Lemlein was married to a Stieber . This is a read or write error instead of Klieber . The Stieber certificates known to me (among others, 19.BHVB) show no relation to the Lemlein. (HDL)

• 1420, Hans Lemlein is one of the 13 members of the copper mining town of Kuttenberg in Bohemia, 70 kilometers east of Prague.

[Wolfgang von Stromer: Franconian and Swabian entrepreneurs in the Danube and Carpathian countries in the age of the Luxembourges 1347-1437. In: Jahrbuch für fränkische Landesforschung, Vol.31, Neustadt / Aisch 1971, p.355-365. S.364.]

• 25.4.1421 the inhabitants of the almost purely German city Kuttenberg have to surrender to the Hussites. Those who do not want to receive a period of three months to sell their assets and emigrate.

[Ernst Schwarz: The conditions in the cities of Bohemia and Moravia before the Hussite wars. Year of the Colegium Carolinum Volume 2 Munich (1961) Page 27]

→ In the Hussite unrest most Germans were on the side of Emperor Sigmund; They were responsible for the massacres of numerous Hussites, which gave the Hussite war its national-Czech and anti-German accent. But Emperor Sigmund was forced to withdraw from Bohemia. Thus, the Kuttenbergs had to submit to the Utraquists (= moderate Hussites). Everyone was allowed to leave Kuttenberg, who did not want to acknowledge the "four Prague articles" of the Hussites until 15.8.1421. The houses of the withdrawing Germans were given to Hussites. Then the mines fell. At the beginning of 1437 the Germans could return and settle with the new owners of their houses "in a friendly way".

[Richard Klier: Nuremberg and Kuttenberg. In: MVGN 48 (1958) p. 51-78. P.52.]

→ Hans Lemlein must have disappeared from Kuttenberg before 15.8.1421. - It is possible that Hans Lemlein's son Michael returned to Kuttenberg in 1437 to look after the possessions of the now deceased father. In 1437 Michael was replaced by his brother Mertein in Chemnitz. (HDL)

• 1421 Reversal of Hans Lemlein from Bamberg over an interest rate to Altdorf.

[Internet 2017. Go. House Archives Plassenburg D.12.5.-15]

→ Could be related to the son of the same name who marries about this time. (HDL)

→ December 1421, Hans Lemlein is one of the Bamberg judges, instead of his brother Heinz, who was 1405 to 29.1.1420 Schöffe. Hans Lemlein is now 1428 Schöffe until his death. - See the book series below.

• 1421: Reversed by Hans Lemlein from Bamberg over an interest rate to Altdorf.

[StsA Bamberg, Secret House Archives Plassenburg, 2008, page 205, Regest 1625. - Internet 2011]

• 7.3.1421, Hans Lemlein is in the possession of the house on the Steinwege in the expensive state beyond the sea bridges to go to the 7 doors; It adjoins the house of the Pfister Fritz Angermeier vom Steine.

[StA Bamberg Rep.A 120 Lade 118 No.27, according to Paschke, Lämleinsgasse, as above 1412, page 297.]

→ It is the house Nr.1014 upper Königstr.1, the house "to the brushes", since 1670 to the black eagle.

• 1.3.1422 Hanns Lemlein is represented by Hanns Ruger in Bamberg:

Cuntz jeger Confirms hannsen Ruger anstat hannsen lemlein 6 guld.

[Staatsl.Bibl.Bamberg, Mv0. Hs 1 StGB 1439/45 f.155, according to HELemmel, "Origin" page 156]

→ Still 1446, Hans Ruger is legal representative in Bamberg for Hans Lemleins son Hans in Nuremberg.

→ Apparently Hans Lemlein is not in Bamberg on 1.3.1422, so he is represented by Hans Ruger . In the same month, however, he was again present and mentioned as one of the judges.

• After 1421: Heintz and Hanns Lemlein Brothers have received as fiefs of the Bamberg:

A good place to Schamendorf with the help of Weissmein;

A dwelling-house at Wachenrod with an entourage;

A piece of field and a meadow to Watchrod;

A third at the village without a twelfth to Nd'leiterbach;

A Reutendend to Nidernleiterbach with entourage;

A third at the lower end To Zapfendorf with entourage;

Three-quarters at the foot of Gasselstorf;

A courtyard to Swaistorf with meadows, fields, and holtz, with a soul and other belongings;

A good to Trevitzitz with his own;

Two Simra Korn (Holfeld measure) on a Gutlein to Trewnitz;

A little goat to Trevisitz, with his entourage;

Two goodies to Trunstat with entourage;

51 Ackerfeld am Heidelsteig behind the Holy Sepulcher near Bamberg.

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, Standbook 3 (Lenten book of the bishop Friedrich III of Aufsess, 1421-1432), Bl.76. - Photography by GL 1981]

• 20.5.1422 the same process as the reverse of the brothers Heintz and Hanns Lemlein .

[StsA Bamberg, Bamberger Citizens 'and Peasants' Lehenurk.A 101, L.376, no.238]

Translated by Gerhard Lemmel 1984:

I, Heintz and I, Hanns Lemlein, are openly confessing with this brig, which the Lord our Majesty, our dear Mr. Fridrich Bishop of Bamberg, has conspired with us on the occasion of a manage of extraordinary mercy, and we have received from him the following verses and fiefs In and his estates were fiefs (?)

• first to Schamendorff with all his belongings at Weyssmain, and a Schenck house with all his belongings at Wachenrod.

• Item a piece of Velds and a Wisen dabey to Wachenrod located with all its attributions.

• Item a third part at the village ending at Nyderleyterbach with all its belongings excise a twelfth part.

• Item a Rewtzehenden also to Nidernleyterbach with his belongings.

• Item a third part of the smaller toe to Zappfendorff with all his belongings.

• Item drey Virteil at the Tohend to Gasselstorff with its assigned.

• Item a court to Sweisstorff, Wisenacker Holtz with a Selein and with all his belongings.

• Item a good located to Treuntz (?).

• Item a note to Treuntz located with its belongings.

• Item two Gütlein to Trunstat, with their belongings, one and thirty-one Ackeldelds, situated on the hillside behind the holy grave

• our master also has lied to the imputed goods in obscure measure, which he should give us on the basis of graces and by law, but on his estimation of his fiefs and rights, and also of others, on the other hand, on the other hand

• In the case of our testimony, our insignificance has been attached to this letter.

• Give to Bamberg on the eve of Sand Urbane's day after Cristi's birth four hundred and in the two and twentieth Jar.

[ Reverses of the brothers Heinz and Hans Lemlein about goods and

Fiefs to Schamendorf, Wachenrod, Nyderleiterbach, Zapfendorf, Gesselsdorf, Sweissdorf, Treuntz, Trunstadt and the Heidelteige behind the Holy Sepulcher,

(Orig.Perg. 2 seal)]

• 1423 in the Bamberger Lehenbuch under the heading "militares nobiles": Thomas von Aysch has received various fiefs and affords. Among the affiliates are listed among others:

Heintzen and Hansen Lemlein, a court to Obernheyd and a Holtz in Rotenbuhel with their belongings.

Hansen Lemlein and Heintzen Gundloch to the faithful hand the church tower and Hofstat to Obernheid and what belongs there.

Among the further affiliation fees are listed among others: Fritz Müntzmeister , Cuntz, Lorentz, Klashaller , Hans Zolner , ...

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, Staatsbuch 3 (fiction book of the bishop Friedrich III of Aufseß 1421-1432), sheet 27 in original manuscript = sheet 65 in later manuscript. - Fotokopie 1981/82 by Dr.Mistele to Gerhard Lemmel.]

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p. 17, 40, 63, 68; There Herbert Lemme appoints the Hans Lemlein to the "militares nobiles" and thus establishes the noble origin of the Lemlein. This is a following error. One of the "militares nobiles" is certainly Thomas von Aysch ; The owners of the affiliates do not belong to it. - HDL]

[The same error also with Herbert E. Lemmel, "About the origin of the Gundloch in Bamberg" in: Genealogy Bd.8 S.577 Feb.1967]

• 4.2.1424: Debt letters of the citizens and the municipality of the city court over 1375 guilders Bamberger Stadtwährung, which are lent to them from the Priorin and the Convention of the Predigerorden to the Hl.Grab outside the Bamberg city walls, returnable Lichtmeß. Guaranties and self-debtors with a deposit (ius obstagii) are: Hanns Zollner , Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Hanns Ortlein , Hanns Lemlein , Hermann Getzendorfer , Hanns Keil . These also seal.

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, file of existing documents, no. GL 1981. - Online database 2008, inventory A21 Urk.4.2.1424]

• In 1424, Hans Lemlein owns the two stone houses of the large corner property No.12O in Bamberg. He pays two interest of 15 solidi each to Walburgis and Martini to the Obleier of the monastery on the Müncbberge, as well as a rate of 9 solidi to Egidi to the hospitalier of the monastery.

• Previous owner: "quondam Braun Wagner vel Heinrich Chamberlain in the Langengasse ".

[Interest book StA Bamberg StB 4304 f.121 ', according to Hans Paschke: Lämleinsgasse, as above 1412, page 280.

→ For Paschke S.282 "1413 Hans I Lemlein" is incorrect: the number 1413 must be 3 lines higher!]

→ Note: In 1413 this possession belonged to the Singer , then (undated) the Braunwagner. 1451 is Heinz Lemlein registered, 1470 Michel Lemlein , 1512 is no longer listed Lemlein. The Eckgrundstück, today Habergasse 3, however still centuries later the Lemleinshof , and the Habergasse is called until 1876 the Lemleinsgasse.

• 14.7.1424: Hans Lemlein is in the possession of the house no.1597, Concordiastr. 1.

[Urk. From 14.7.1424, Ob. Pfarrarchiv Bamberg no.83; According to Paschke 101.BHVB p.297]

• 14.11.1424 Heinz Koch s widow Barbara sold to the chairman of the cathedral Heinz Gross 2 Pfd Haller from her house, court yard and little garden on the sand in front of the hospital, on one hand to Heinz Artzt's house, on the other side Ulrich Nagenranft 's house, behind With the little garden to Herr Hans Lömlein's garden. [Urk. A 115 L.51 No. 836 StA Bamberg. According to Hans Paschke: The middle sand. In: Bamberger Kirchweihkalender 1957, p.52. - GL1981]

→ This is not to refer to Hans Lemlein but to the vicar Hans Lömlein! (HDL)

• In 1425, Hennslein Kreydenweiß , Hannsen Kandelgießer 's son of Augsburg, was banished to Bamberg for 10 years, because he stole Hansen Lemlein from his (Zieihen) ...

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, Oath and Obligatory Book B4 / 34 p.162, GL 1981]

• 28.2.1425: Bf Friedrich gives the citizens of Bamberg Clas Lorber and Hanns Lemlein as trustees of the new Almosens in Bamberg with 2 goods at Litzendorf, in the court at Melkendorf and 3 Selden there, local fiefs, which they from Burkhart Löffelholz at Nuremberg for the Called alms.

[Looshorn, History of Bamberg. Quoted in the Internet 2008 Gesch. D. Municipality of Litzendorf]

[HELM, "Origin" p.87]

• 27.3.1425 Witnesses on sale: Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Conrad Ingram , Dyterich Seybot , Hans Ortlein , Hanns Ver , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhart Klieber , Fritz Pul , Fritz Usmer , Hanns Work , Fritz Zollner .

[Kopialbuch St.Stefan, 19.BHVB 1856 p.129]

• 1425-1428: Hanns Lemlein is one of the witnesses to the documents of June 4, 1425, 6, 6, 1425, 5, 5, 426, 13, 5, 426, 20.2.1427, 29.8.1427, 12.1.1428.

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, Online Database 2008, Stock A21]

• 3.12.1425 Hermann Feurer ordered the Hans Schneider in Eltmann, "he renders his castle for the Hansen Lemlein for 10 guld. Gurtsten gelts dap. Tum".

[StA Bamberg, Rep. B 52, No. 714 (Extract from the Landgerichtbuch 1400-1447) f.13-13 '. According to HELEMMEL, "Origin" page 42.]

→ Error: Herbert E. Lemmel quoted incorrectly. In the original document, it is once Lemp , another time Lemplein and not Lemlein . There is no reason to see a Lemlein in this Lemp / Lemplein. (HDL)

• 16.5.1426 Witnesses on sale: Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Braun Ingram , Dytrich Seybot , Hans Oertlein , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhard Klieber , Hanns Erbeit , Fritz Zoelner , Heintz Oertlein , Hanns Schütz .

[Kopialbuch St.Stefan, 19.BHVB 1856 p.130]

• 1426 Purchase letter: The Conrad and Heintz brothers, the Müntzmeister called Koburger , citizens of Bamberg, sell to Hanns Lemlein , citizen of Bamberg, 1/3 To the Pfersfelt (fief of the knight Georg von Lichtenstein) and 1 Gütlein to Seibelsdorf (fief of the monastery Banz).

[Lemlein archive, as in 1406, Urk.9. HELMETE, "Origin" p.56]

• 23.3.1428: Hans Lemlein , citizen of Bamberg, acquires

1) by Dietrich Seybot and Eberhard Klieber , citizens of Bamberg, his siblings, as well as by Christein, Eberhard Klieber 's daughter from his first marriage to Margarete, whose two thirds of the house, the court rides and ken - mats on the shores of Lugbank Right hand, one wants to go up, one side and at the corner, and the other, on the other hand, to Leupolt Miinzer and his matrimonial landlady, Margarete Haus, who had previously been separated from it, and backed by Gerhard Zollner , citizen of Nuremberg, With woodwork and stonework, surrounded by a third;

2), with Katharina, Eberhard Kliebers Swester, his matrimonial landlady, a house and court yard, which had been presumed, and situated on the larger house, which was on one side, to Mr. Peter Truchsess, the knight, house, behind Gerhard Zollner 's house and two thirds All the ire right at the larger house, and also the little house, when they had died of the saint's father, Sweher, Mother, and Swiger, who had been blessed by Engelmar Klieber and his landlady.

• Cunzlein, Diedtrich Seibot's son of his first marriage with Anna, will agree as soon as he is mature.

• The smaller house is burdened with 16 Pfd Hallern Leibgedinge in favor of Stefan Tockler .

[Lemlein Archives, like 1406, document 10, according to Hans Paschke: Lämleinsgasse and Lämleinshof zu Bamberg, 101. Report of the Hist.V.Bamberg, 1965, p.297. - Paschke identified the two houses as today's site No. 1187, Lower Caroline Str.18.]

• 1428 as is the case.

• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • 1456,

[Paschke: ... court chair ..., studies ... issue 38, 1969, p.16]

[Comp. HELMETE, "Origin" p.75]

• In 1429 "Hannsen Lemlein's Sun" received such fiefs, which his father had saved with Heintzen Lemlein , his cousin, together with the same Heintzen Lemlein to his cousin.

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, Staatsbuch 3 (fiction book of the bishop Friedrich III von Aufsess, 1421-1432) Blatt 190. - Fotokopie by GL 1981.]

• 1429 Heintz Lemlein and Hans Lemlein of his brother's son.

[GNM, Imhoff Archive Fasc.26 (Lemlein Archives) Urk.11a and 12, HELemmel, "Origin", pp. 46 and 68ff.]

"See Heinz Lemlein for details.

• Hanns Lammel Ritter, who had a doc- tor in and Klieber in Bamberg, had three sons: the first, Wernher, died in 1408; the other, Michael, had Ulman Hegner 's daughter, Hanns, the third, free Catharine Haller | in of Bamberg.

[Germanic National Museum Nuremberg, manuscript No. 7178: Topochronographia Reipublicae Norimbergensis, 6th part, pages 343 and 3344.]

→ Wernher is not mentioned in any document, probably because he died relatively early. In this manuscript, the son of Mertein is not mentioned, probably because he emigrated to Chemnitz and was therefore not known to the Nuremberg clerk.

• 12.11.1431 Kathrein, the widow of Hanns Lemlein , " bought from the former that Hans Lemlein had been more blessed, Hannsen, Mertein, and Micheln had sent the Lemlein to her sunshine," an "eternal" for these about 300 Rhineland florins Gult "of 20 florins per year.

[Bamberg, City Archives, Stock A21 Certificate of 12.11.1431, Online Database 2008]

[HELemmel, "Origin" pages 15 and 134, and "Miszellen", page 264] [G.Lemmel, StA Bamberg file of the existing Urk. No.341.]

From this document one could conclude that Hanns is the oldest of the three brothers. From the birth dates of the children it follows, however, that Hanns must be a little younger than Mertein and Michel. He stands here first, probably because he is the natural son of the widow Kathrein, or because, as is often the case, the youngest of the brethren acts as the "elder", who also receives fiefs in the name of the brethren.

[Comp. Helmel, Miscells, Bl.f.fränk.Fam'kde 9, 265, 1968.]

Bamberger Schöffenreihen with Hans Lemlein:

• 1420 are in Bamberg Schöffen:

Conrat Usmer , Hans Zolner , Kraft Tokawer , Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Engelhart Cake Maker , Prawn Ingram , Cuntz Ingram , Heintz Ditmar , Jorg Keypper , Gangolf Melber , Hans Ortlein .

→ The Schöffe Heintz Lemlein , who was named until 29.1.1420, has left, with Ditmar , Keypper and Melber, three new families appearing in the jury row.

[Michael Heinrich Schuberth: Historical essay on the spiritual and secular constitution of the Bamberg High Court. Erlangen 1790, "Nachräge" Erlangen 1792, Nachräge S.145ff: List of the Schultheisen und Schopfen of the City Court of Bamberg from the 12th - beginning of the 16th century]

• December 1421 the Bamberger Schöffenreihe: Konrad Usmer , Hanns Zollner , Fritz Lewant , Clas Lorber , Braun Ingram , Konrad Ingram , Dietrich Seibot , Heinz Dietmar , Hanns Ortlein , Georg Keipper , Hanns Ver , Hanns Lemlein .

[Adalbert Decker: The former Carmelite monastery at Bamberg. In: 91.Report of the Hist.Vereins Bamberg, 1952, page 265 Nr.62-64]

• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • 1421 He writes the name Lemlein here as a glue .

• March 1422 the Bamberger Schöffenreihe is the same as Dec.1421.

• In March 1423, Heinz Dietmar was eliminated in the Bamberger Schöffenreihe, Eberhard Klieber in the last place.

[A.Decker, as above, Dec.1421]

• 1423 are Schöffen in Bamberg: Hans Zolner , Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Conrad Ingram , Ditrich Seybot , Hans Ortlein , Gorg Keypper , Hans Ver , Hans Lemlein , Eberhart Klieber , Fritz Pul , Fritz Usmer , Hans Erbeit .

[MHSchuberth, as above 1420]

• In 1423 "Mathes von Lichtenstein Schultheis and we of the statues of Bamberg" published various documents, among which are called witnesses (and probably scholars):

Hanns Zollner , Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Conrad Ingram , and his other Brawn Ingram , Ditrich Seybot , Hans Oertlein , Georg Keyper , Hanns Ver , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhart Klieber , Fritz Pul , Hanns Arbeit , Fritz Zollner , Hanns Schutze , Ulrich Cake master , Michel Ingram , Conrad Oertlein and others.

[Nikolaus Haas: History of the Parish of St. Martin zu Bamberg, Univ.-Bibl. Göttingen, H.Bavar.II, 1785. pages 44, 444, 744.]

• 17.9.1423 is the same series as Fritz Puhl , but when Conrad Lemlein , the chancellor of St.Stephan, bought the validation from 3 acres to Schnait of Heintz Kelner of Schnait.

[Copial book of the Kolegiatstiftes St.Stephan to Bamberg, in: 19.Report of the Hist.Verins zu Bamberg, Bamberg 1856, p.127]

• Sept.1424 is the successor series: Hanns Zollner , Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Konrad Ingram , Dietrich Seibot , Hanns Ortlein , Hanns Ver , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhard Klieber, Fritz Pul , Fritz Usmer , Hanns Arbeit .

[Decker, as above, page 265 No. 65]

• 27.3.1425 is the series of judges in Bamberg: Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Conrad Ingram , Dyterich Seybot , Hanns Verrer , Hanns Ver , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhart Klieber , Fritz Pul , Fritz Usmer , Hanns Arbeit ; Fritz Zollner .

[Copial Book of the Collegiate Church of St. Stephan to Bamberg, 19th Report of the Bamberg Society, 1856]

• 1425 (which month?) Are in Bamberg: Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Brawn Ingramm , Ditrich Seybot ,. So here without Hans Lemlein .

[MHSchuberth, as above 1420]

• 16.5.1426 and June 1426 is the Bamberger Schöffenreihe:

Fritz Lawant , Clas Lorber , Brown Ingram , Conrad Ingram , Dytrich Seybot , Hanns Oertlein , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhard Klieber , Hanns Erbeit , Fritz Zollner , Heintzertlein , Hanns Schütz .

[16.5.1426] Copial book as above, page 130. - June 1426: Decker, as above, page 266, no.67] - [likewise with Schuberth for 1426]

• 27.1.1427 the same series as 16.5.1426, June 1426, March 1427.

[StsA Bamberg A 139 Urg. Of the Klosters St.Theodor Bamberg Location 271 Nr.63 p.91. - GL 1984]

• March 1427 is the series of judges: Fritz Labant , Clas Lorber , Braun Ingram , Konrad Ingram , Dietrich Seibot , Hans Ortlein , Hanns Lemlein , Eberhard Klieber , Hanns Arbeyt , Fritz Zollner , Heinz Ortlein , Hanns Schutze .

• Sept. and 13.11.1427 is the following: Fritz Labant , Clas Lorber , Konrad Ingram , Dietrich Seibot , Hanns Ortlein , Hanns Lemlein , Hanns Arbeyt , Michell Ingram , Konrad Ortlein .

[Deckert, as above, pages 266,267, no. 68-70.]

[Comp. HE Lemmel, "Origin" p.87.]

• 29.8.1427 are Hanns Lemlein and Hanns Arbeitszeuge , when Mathes von Lichtenstein, Schultheiss, and the Schepfen zu Bamberg decide on a mistake.

[Stadtarchiv Bamberg, file of existing documents, No. 303. - GL 1981]

• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • 1428:

[MHSchuberth, as above 1420]

→ After that, Hans Lemlein is no longer called Schöffe. In 1434-35, his son Hans was named as representative of Bamberg.

Regesten to Katharina Klieber:

→ Error :

• Katharina Klieber married the knight and adviser citizen Hans Lemmel around Nuremberg in 1432. On 11 October 1460, her daughter, Ursula Lemmel, married Hans Imhoff, rich in Italian trade.

[Karlwerner Klüber: Where did the Klüber come from? In: Ekkehard Jg.12 1936 p.54. - GL 1982]

→ Here is some wrong: The marriage year "1432" is not at all true. Hans Lemmel was not a knight. Katharina Klieber is not the mother but the grandmother of Ursula Lemmel. (HDL)

Regesten to Wernher Lemlein:

• Wernher Lemlein, died in 1408, son of Hanns Lämmel , who had a marriage to a female student and Klieberin from Bamberg.

[Hs Nr.7178 Germ.Nat.Museum]

→ This is certainly a confusion with the Nuremberg-named Werner Lemblein, successor to the office and probably the son of Fritz Lemblein.

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My Paternal 16x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 17x Great Grandfather:

Conrad Lemlein (1325 - 1398)

Also known as: "Conrad Lemlein, Schöffe and Lodener in Bamberg"

Birth: circa 1325

Death: before 1398

Occupation: In Bamberg: 1371 Schöffe, 1373 "Lodener", 1373,1384 house ownership together with his wife Alheid (1398 widow). 1400 Reconciliation and 1406 Succession of the sons ("lemlein filii").

Parents:

Cunrad Lemblin

1290-1348

(unknown) Braunwart

1305-

Family

Spouse:

Alheid Mintmaster

Birth: circa 1335

Married: circa 1355

Death: before 1406

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Conrad Münzmeister, (* about? 1307), † after 1389

Notes: Without a first name with Ulman Stromer mentioned as a father-in-law of Konrad Esler, the good judge. Around 1355 Schöffe, 1363-1389 Schultheiß in Bamberg. See Munm-23 / e ; ∞ with (daughter) Esler N747 , (* about? 1310).

Notes: 1373, 1384: Cunrad Lemlin / Lemmlein and Alheid his married landlady. 1398 Alheid Lemter as a widow.

Children:

1. Heinz Lemlein, (* about? 1358) - Schaffes in Bamberg

2. Hans Lemlein, (* about? 1355/1360) - Schöffe in Bamberg and Kuttenberg

3. Peter Lemlein, (* about? 1365) - citizens in Bamberg

4. Conrad Lemlein, (* about? 1365) - Dean in Bamberg

probably:

5. Mertein Leml, (* about? 1370) - citizens of Sulzbach

for sure:

6. Anna Lemlein, (* about? 1375) - ∞ Münzer, in Bamberg

probably:

7. (daughter) Lemlein, (* about? 1375) - ∞ Goldsmit

About Conrad Lemlein

The seals of the 3 brothers Lemlein: Hans, Peter, Heinz (Heinrich).

Regesten:

Summary :

• 1371 Schöffe in Bamberg.

• 1373 Lodener in Bamberg. In 1373 he and his wife Alheid bought a house in the Zinkenwörth in Bamberg, in 1384 another house.

• Around 1375, he pays for a field at Altenberg.

• In 1398, Alheid Lemter (= Lemlein) is mentioned, evidently as a widow.

• He owns various fiefs in the Bamberger region in Lauterbach, Steinfeld, Obernheid, which are enumerated in 1406 in the letter of divorce of the sons. Among them is a court at Lauterbach, feud of the margrave at Meichssen. (1366-1374 was Ludwig von Meissen Bamberger bishop, who may have given this court to the Margrave at Meissen.)

• According to Nuremberg genealogies, but not officially documented, the woman Alheid is a born mint master .

• Children: According to him, the sons of Henry, John, and Peter are relied upon. Probably this is the age order. Other sons are: Conrad, who, as a clergyman, has not received any fief; And probably Mertein, who has departed from Bamberg.

Details :

In the Middle Ages, the Müntzers, Müntzmeister , Rockenbach , Goldschmidt , Küchenmeister and Haller lived in the south, and in the north the Löffelholz , Zollner , lived in Domgasse (or Schütt, today: Karolinenstrasse), which connects the Upper Bridge to the Domberg , Klieber and Lammlein .

[Kunstdenkmäler Bayern, Bamberg Bergstadt, 1997, p.895]

→ From this general observation it is not clear when a lammin lived here. In fact, Conrad Lemlein did not live here yet, but his son Hans inherited the Klieber house here in 1428. (HDL)

• 1371 a Chunrat Laembel of Eger in Regensburg mentioned. - Probably not the same with Bamberger Conrad Lemlein! (HDL)

• 15.12.1371 Conrad Lemlein is among the judges of the Bamberger Zinkenwerds, as it is confirmed that Mrs. Kune Lemler in the houses and court rides in the Zinkenwerde, between Heinrich Segger s and Erkenbrechts Pfister s houses, Otten the Forster and Agnes his marital hostess Against 4 pounds of bright eternal validation. The sale had taken place before that date, because on the 14th of April 1371 Forster had already resold the property to Walter and Jeute Landschreiber .

[HVB, Urk. Of 15.12.1371 no.115, according to Hans Paschke, Lämleinsgasse and Lämleinshof to Bamberg, in 101. Ber. D. Verein Bambg, 1965, p.290f.]

• According to Paschke, it is Land Nr.40, Schillerplatz 24.

→ The woman mentioned here, Kune Lemlerin, may be the widow of the Heinrich Lemlein mentioned in 1361 (HDL).

• Before 1378 (= about 1370?): "H'r lemlein" pays to the monastery Michelsberg a rate of 9 Hellern for a field at the Altenberg. The entry is Martini "h'r lemlein", Walburgis "H'man Muffelger ", with Muffelger on shaving; What was there before the shave, can not be determined. - The date "before 1378" can not be specified due to the external and internal characteristics.

[StsA Bamberg, Stand Book 4300, Interest Book of the Monastery of Michaelsberg in Bamberg, f. 21 v to Martini; Mtlg KH Mistele 1982, martini entry with photography.]

→ According to Dr.Mistele, neither the word "lord" nor the abbreviation "h'r" is used again.

→ Localization of this field:

• A site to the right of the Altenburger Straße with "Weinberg, Feld and Wieswachs in the Teufelsgraben, the Lemleinsberg called" between Altenburgerstrasse and Teufelsgraben.

[H.Paschke, 101.BHVB p.292]

• ... The Allee leading to the Altenburg has on the right a larger plant on the highest point, the "Lämmleinsberg" , on the left a continuous chain, starting from the crucifix at the beginning of the Panzerleite up to the Altenburg.

[Heinrich Weber: Bamberger Weinbuch, in: 46th BHVB, Bamberg 1884, p.34. - GL 1977]

→ Error: Herbert Lemmel [Origin p.48f] interpreted "h'r lemlein" as "Mr. Lemlein" and put it with the judge Conrad Lemlein. He later denied this, and then interpreted the same passage as "Hermann Lemlein" (continuity p.226), which is unacceptable, since Hermann is often abbreviated as H'man in the Zinsbuch.

→ After Dr.Mistele had informed me that a title like "Herr" does not occur in the interest book, I had interpreted "h'r" as Heinrich and assigned the entry to Heinrich Lemlein [cf. HD Lemmel: "Nuernb.Lemlein" p.332f]. The photocopy of the entry shows, of course, that the first names Heinrich and Hermann are abbreviated as "heinr" and "h'man". Herbert Lemmel's original interpretation of "h'r" as "Lord" should therefore be the correct one. Thus, the entry is attributable to Conrad Lemlein, who is assigned the honorary title of "Lord" as the mayor. (HDL)

• 25.5.1373 buy Cunrad Lemlin / Lemmlein "the Lodener" and his wife Alheit a house with court yard and garden in the Bamberger Zinkenwerd by Hermann Sampach and his wife Jewt. The house borders on the houses of Örtel the Bräknecht and of Heintz Lantputel . Witnesses are Mr. Hans Zollner , Schultheiss, and the Schöffen Herdegen Togglers, Brunwart Usemer at the market, Fritz Eytheinagel in the Langengassen, Cunrad Hassunter (or similar), Ulrich Haller , Fritz Zollner the eltere, Brunwart Sampach , Walther Zollner , Walther Anshalm , Hans Heyder , Fritz Gundloch , Heinrich Goltsmit, and others.

[Stadtarchiv Nürnberg, Stock E17 Löffelholz-Archiv Urk. Nr. 6, copy by Dr. Beyerstedt 1993] - [cf. 101. BHVB (1965): Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.48f, and H.Paschke, as above.]

• According to Paschke, this property must be located in the rear zinkenwerde.

• 5.2.1375 of the "Lemerleins" House: Albrecht Warmut , his Eidam Hans Ladener (or Lodener to read) the painter and his wife Gertrawt own two houses along with a courtyard and garden, which lie in the front streets behind St. Martin and on the other At the Vogelsang s house, on the other hand , at the Lemerlein s house.

[Adalbert Deckert: The former Carmelite monastery at Bamberg. In: 91. Ber. D. Association Bamberg, 1952, p. 243, No. 5. - StA Bamberg, StB 4040 f.48.]

[see. Hans Paschke, as above]

• According to Paschke, the Warmutsche Haus was the site No. 541, Fleischgasse 25.

• 23.5.1384: Conrad Lemlein with Alheid, his matrimonial landlady, acquires the house and court yard, after which the building stands, by the Virgin Kune, daughter of Matthes boy of Bayreuth, and the court ridge at the rear of it in the Zinkenstede at Reilich In house, on the other side of the corner, and from the corners to the Betzold locksmith s house, with the right, at the rear, to the water.

[StA Bamberg Rep. A 91 L 438 No. 20c, Urk., 23.5.1384. According to Hans Paschke: "Lämleinsgasse", as above]

• According to Paschke, this is a plot of today's road Zinkenwerd or Schillerplatz; More precisely it is not yet to be localized.

• 13.8.1398: Ality Lemter (= Lemler with wrong t-line) buys a pound of Heller from Ruprecht Feurer , with which the plot 1229, the house to the rainbow (now Unterer Kaulberg 18) is burdened.

• Sellers are Ruprecht Feurer , Pirner and his wife Agnes.

• In 1375 this house had belonged to the power kitchen master .

[H.Paschke: The Bach. In: 75 Years of City. Girls' Realgymnasium in Bach to Bamberg. Studies ... Issue 3, Bamberg, 1956, p.38.]

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.79.]

→ Ality must be the previously mentioned woman and apparently now widow of Conrad Lemlein. Conrad died before 1398. The division of the sons of 1406 may have taken place after the death of widow Alheid. In 1399, after the death of the father, the sons of Heinz and Hans sell the house of their sister Anna in Zinkenwerd; And in 1400 the father's episcopal fiefs came to the sons of Henry, John and Peter.

• 26.3.1400 in Bamberg: Heinrich, Johann (et Petrus durchgestrichen!) The lemlie filii habent in feodum xxx jugera situm on the hillside in front of the hawtsmorde. Item a Rewtczehen situm in nidern leitterbach. Item a third part of the village of the village (= without) a twelfth part.

[Staatsarchiv Bamberg, StB 1 / I, Lehenbuch of the bishop Albrecht von Wertheim 1398-1421, f.16; Photocopy; No date shown here]

[Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p.16; Here dated 26.3.1400]

→ "Without a twelfth": This twelfth belongs to Eberhard Zolner . Later (1414), Heintz Lemblein and Eberhard Zolner argue about this 12th part of "Conntzen Lemblein's Third Part ". See Regest with Heinz Lemlein.

• 1401: The field of Lemlein . In the testament of the Conrad Pul is mentioned: a field located in the "Gerewt" next to the hospital field on the sand and the Lemlein field.

[City Archives of Bamberg, Stock A21, Urk. Sogn. 7.3.1401 A and B. Online Database 2008]

• 1406: Heintz, Hanns and Peter the Lemlein brothers, citizens of Bamberg, share feudal goods, which fell from Conrad Lemlein to their father. It contains:

• Heintz: 1 court with 3 sellers at Lauterbach, fief of the margrave at Meichssen , and 1 Rewtzehend and 1/3 of the village there, fief of the bishop at Bamberg ;

• Hanns: 1/4 Village to Steinfelt as the fief of the Lord Eberhart of Gich , as well as Kleinzehend to Ebensfelt as fief of the Scots ;

• Peter: 1 court to ObernHeide as a fief of the von Aysch , and 31 Ackerfeld before the Hangsmark at the Heidelsteig located as a fief of the Bishop of Bamberg .

• Witnesses are the judges of the city council of Bamberg, Konrad Usmer and Hanns Zöllner .

• 5 seals in the order Konrad Usmer , Hanns Zöllner , Heintz, Hanns, Peter Lemlein .

→ The "fief of the margrave of Meichssen" can be explained by the fact that, in 1366-1374, Ludwig von Meissen was Bishop of Bamberg, who perhaps sold this fief within his family. On request, I was informed that nothing is known about this fief in the Staatsarchiv Dresden (HDL).

→ In addition to the three brothers Lemlein of this certificate, Conrad Lemlein has had more children. This document concerns only Conrad's fief property. There must have been another certificate of inheritance about his other possessions, especially the house ownership in Bamberg, but this has not been preserved. Another son is the Bamberg Dean, Conrad Lemlein, who is not a clergyman for the above fiefs. Another son is supposed to be Mertein Lemel , who lives as a citizen of Sulzbach abroad and is therefore also not suitable for these fiefs (or different was found).

→ 1414, there is an "Oblei Lemleinsleyten" , the Paschke at Oberen Stefansberg at house number 40 localizes. It belongs to Heinrich Münzmeister , mayor of St.Stefan. I suspect that this field belonged to Conrad Lemlein , and that it came after his death to Heinrich Münzmeister , who is probably a nephew of Conrad Lemlein's wife Alheid née Münzmeister (HDL).

• 1.10.1414: Eberhard Engelhart and his landlady Catharein have received an inheritance from Heinrich Münzmeister : his tree field before S.Stefanstor ... belongs to the Oblei Lemleinsleyten .

• 1416 the field Lemleinsleiden is mentioned .

[Copial Book of the Collegiate Church St.Stephan to Bamberg, in: 19. BHVB, 1856, p. 117, 119] - [Paschke, 101.BHVB p.297]

→ Error : Conrad Lemlein has no daughter Gerhaus married spoon wood . Since Gerhaus Löffelholz had a lamb coat of arms on her tomb, Herbert E. Lemmel (and with him Paschke) had assumed that she was a born Lemlein. This is inaccurate: Gerhaus Löffelholz died unmarried. It seems to be a coincidence that the families Lemlein and Löffelholz both lead a lamb in the coat of arms.

Reigns to Alheid Coinmaster:

• Your first name Alheid is documented in 1373 and 1398.

[See Regesten with Conrad Lemlein]

• In Nuremberg gender books, a " Münzmeister in von Bamberg" was given as the mother of Bamberger Hans Lemlein (and grandmother of the mayor of Nuremberg, Hans Lemlein), but without the first name.

[Staatsarchiv Nuremberg Hs 211 ("Hallerbuch"), created 1533-1536.]

[GNM Nuremberg, Hs 1837.]

→ In both genre books, the first name of the man of the mintmaster with Hans (instead of Corrad) is incorrect. That Hans Lemmel died, according to the book of the sexes "anno viii" (1408), is not correct; But at about this time, in 1406, the heirings of the heirs of Alheid took place.

→ A close kinship between the mint master and Lemlein is also likely by the fact that the Dean's office of St. Stephen in Bamberg passes over from Conrad Lemlein to Heinrich (his nephew?) Before 1427 by Heinrich Münzmeister .

→ Your parents are not known. Ulman Stromer, who lived from 1329 to 1407, wrote in a "Büchel" data about his family and kinship. The following are mentioned : a Munczmaister of Babenberg and his wife, who was a daughter of Konrad Esler ("the good judge"). Agewise these two can be the parents of Alheid ∞ Lemlein. There is no proof. (HDL)

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel, "Miszellen", Bl.f.fränk.Fk. 9 (1968) p.282ff]

→ For this, the following argument speaks:

In 1330 the citizen of Bamberger Conrad Eseler founded the old hospital "am Sand". Immediately beside it is a Lemlein property, which comes to Alheid (mint master) s son Peter and the one pawned in 1406 (after Alheid's death). [Paschke: "The Middle Sand" 1957, see by Peter Lemlein.] The hospital and the Lemlein property "on the sand" can therefore originate from an earlier, both comprehensive Esler property. (HDL)

Regesten to (daughter) Esler:

• First name not known in the document. At Herbert E. Lemmel her first name was given as Agnes . (Source?)

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Children:

1. Werner Lembl / Lemmel, (* about? 1323) - citizens and householders in Prague

2. Conrad Lemlein, (ca. 1325) - Schoeffe and Lodener in Bamberg

3. Heinrich Lemblein, (about 1327) - in Bamberg

4. Hans Lemlein / Lölein, (* about? 1332) - master craftsman in Bamberg

maybe:

5. Walther Lemlein, (about 1335) - in the Monastery of Windsheim

About Cunrad Lemblin

Regesten:

• For reasons of the assignment of children, see Hans-Dietrich Lemmel, Bl.f.dt. Landesgesch. 120/1984 p.329-370. Conrad, Heinrich and Hans follow him in Bamberg. Werner Lembl / Lemmel, who appears in Prague around 1350 (with Charles IV), speak of historical facts that he came from Bamberg, where he can only be a son of Conrad. That Walter Lemlein is another son in Windsheim is a guess. (HDL)

• 1331 is "the lemblin" Schöffe in Bamberg:

Anno dom. M ° CCC ° XXXI ° / wait alb. Of the swabs svn / the stat forbidden on his / lantreht. From the week to the end of the month, from the month of January to the end of the month. Before. The glok . H (er) ma (nn) / gref . The lemblin . F swert- / feg. Vergerlint sun.

→ The tenths are: the Glock , Hermann Gref , the Lemblin , Fritz Schwertfeger , and the son of the (widow) Gerlint Ver . This reading was confirmed to me by Dr. Friedrich von Andrian-Werburg [Letter 29.3.1979]. Strange is the last name, however, still 1421 and afterwards in Bamberg Hanns Ver and Hanns Lemlein are mentioned together as schöffen . The spelling of "Ver" is v '; The same hook-shaped emblem is also used elsewhere in this document for an omitted "er", although this abbreviation is noteworthy for the short name "Ver".

• 1357 "the Lemmerin House": 15.12. In 1357, a spiritual device, donated in the monastery of Saint Theodor, is mentioned, which is equipped with an interest of one pound on a house between the bridges, 1/2 pound on a house for taxation, and with 30 Schillingen Hallern on the house with court rides in the Au Between the Lemmerin house and the house belonging to Santa Mertein, and on the garden, which belongs to the house of the statues behind this house.

[HStA Munich, Urk., 25.9.1357, according to Hans Paschke, Lämleinsgasse and Lämleinshof zu Bamberg, in: 101.Ber.d.Hist.Vereins Bamberg, 1965, p.290]

• 1357 the Lemmer (without details) in the house Jesuitenstr., Later Burgerhof. This house had 1345 the Bamberg citizen Dietrich Gundloch (with wife Klara) bought. 1348: Dietrich and Klara Gundloch have this interest, while Herr Friedrich Küchenmeister is living at the Deutscher Haus in Nuremberg.

• Later here as a city architect: 1410 Hans Lemlein and Ulrich Küchenmeister ; 1435 Heinrich Snepf and Clas Haller ; 1437 Fritz Zollner and Conz Tockler .

[Paschke: The Au zu Bamberg, issue 29 of the studies, eg Bamb. Gesch. & Quot; Topogr. 1965, p.56]

→ Paschke [101.BHVB] notes that this house is located on the site of the later Burgerhof No. 411/94, Jesuitenstr.5 / 11. Later this house can no longer be found in Lemlein's possession; It is also not known who owns this house later.

→ The "Lemblin" of 1331 must surely have a house in Bamberg, so that the Lemmerin, whose house is mentioned in 1357, must be his widow.

• 1323-1348 in Pödeldorf 10 km east of Bamberg: 1323/1328 is found in the Bamberger Bischofs-Urbar under 'Officium camerarii in Babenberch' for Bodelndorf the following entry:

Aplo de area (= interest rate) 4 sol dn. ...

Heinr. Swatenapff de area 32 dn. ...

Item idem Heinr. De alia area tantum ...

Cunr . Lemlein de area 3 sol.dn. Et in pascha 20 ova et ceteras ut supra.

Eberhart Schreiber de area 20 dn. ...

Item Eberlin Lemlein de area 40 dn. Et in pascha 20 ova et ceteras ut supra.

Heinr. Pastor de area 20 dn .; In pascha 10 ova and cetera presentas ut supra.

etc.

[Walter Scherzer: The oldest Bamberger Bischofsurbar 1323/28 (Urbar A). In: 108.BHVB 1972, p.59. - Mtlg Gerhard Lemmel 1981.]

[StA Bamberg, StB 710 (Urbar A), f.15. According to Herbert E. Lemmel, "Origin" p. 28f.]

→ This Cunrad Lemlein should be identical with the Bamberger Schöffen Lemblin from 1331, especially since in both cases (Pödeldorf 1348, Bamberg 1357) follows "the Lemlerin", thus probably the widow.

• 1348 finds itself in a similar Urbar of the Bamberg bishop under 'Redditus ville Bodelndorf':

Item Peters aplinn . De area walp. III. Sol Mart. Tantum

Item petrus under the prukpaum de area walp. XVIII. hall. ...

Item Chunradus hafner . De area walp. II. Sol Mart. Tantum

Item dicta Lemlerinn de area tantum ut immediate supra.

Item Jeuta chlukein ...

Item Guntherus ...

Item Eberlinus lemina de area tantum ut in mediate supra.

Item idem lemli de alia area walp. XXI. hall. Mart. tantum. Oua XX. Cas.I. pull. II.

Item Chuntz Gotzholtz ...

Item Heinricus wild ...

Item vlricus hafner ...

Item Jeuta Flieger inn ...

Item Eberlinus lemlein de orto walp. XVIII. hall. Mart. tantum. Oua XX. Alia ut supra.

Item Heinricus Griezz ...

[C. Hoefler: Friedrich's of Hohenlohe, Bishop of Bamberg, Berlin, 1348, Bamberg, 1852, p. - Gerhard Lemmel 1976.]

→ Between the Urbar of 1323/28 and the 1348, a lot has changed. But the interest of "Aplo" can be identified with the later one of "aplinn". Three entries can be found again in both lists: the Lemmlerin follows on Cunr. lemlein; She must be his widow. Few entries are found again Eberlin Lemlein, now with enlarged possession.

• Cunrad Lemlin in Jochsheim:

The validity and interest books of the Deutschordenshauses zu Schweinfurt from the years 1313 and 1337 can be found under Jochsheim:

Item Cunrad Lemlein of four acres in the Sultzhart four shilling brighter and two herbist hunre, and this is so mild and siner husvrawen never. (Later, probably after his death and his wife, punished.)

[Ludwig Miiller: Valid and interest books of the Deutschordenshauses zu Schweinfurt from the years 1313 and 1337, p.681 No. 2680. In:

Archive of the Hist. Association v.U'franken u.Aschaffenburg Bd.22, Würzburg 1873.

Among them are Konrad Fuchs , Konrad Gross , Fritz von ' Geruldehoven' .]

• "Cunrat Lemlein von Nuremberg" ("Cunrat Lemlein of Nuremberg") was born after 1512-1516 (see B-27 / f Michel Lemlein). Of course, this refers to the younger Cunrat, because his housewife is given Ality. After the younger Cunrat was probably already born in Bamberg, one must assume an inaccuracy and relate the origin "from Nuremberg" to the older Cunrat, the appointee of 1331. (HDL)

→ Troubleshooting :

• The previously mentioned daughter Gerhaus Lemlein ∞ Spoonwood must be painted. Gerhaus spoonwood, which dies in 1400 and leads a lamb coat of arms, is not a born Lemlein but an unmarried born spoonwood. The spoonwood family did not take their lamb coat of arms from the Lemlein.

• The document of 1331 was quoted incorrectly by Herbert E. Lemmel:

"It is undoubtedly read: hermann der lemblin, graf" ["origin" p.22]

"Hermann Lampert / Lemblein ... It may be identical with the" Lemblin ", which was mentioned in 1331 as a lieutenant of the court court ... according to the Centgrave Herdegen Tockler ..." ["Lemmlein filii" 1975, Selbstverlag] From here I took over the "Centgrafen Herdegen Tockler" unobserved in my work "The Bamberger Lemmel in Bohemia and Hungary [" Lemmlein filii "1975], where S.41 and S.64 Herdegen Tockler had to be deleted, apparently Herbert E. Lemmel misinterpreted The family name "gref" as a count of the court (HDL)

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My Paternal 18x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 19x Great Grandfather:

Chunrad Lembelin (1250 - )

Also known as: "Chunrad Lembelin, Citizen in Nuremberg"

Birth: circa 1250

Death: unknown

Occupation: 1305 citizens in Nuremberg, and even before 1302. Owned by Ansbach? After Nuremberg genealogies old Nuremberg family.

Parents:

(Unknown) Lembelin

1220-

Unknown Mother

Family:

Unknown Spouse

Children:

probably:

1. Hermann Lemmel / Lemlein, (* about 1280) - in Nuremberg, Lehen near Haßfurt

probably:

2. ..., (* about? 1280) - in Neumarkt ?

maybe:

3. Hainricus Lömel, (* about? 1280) - in Waidhofen / Ybbs

probably:

4. Cunrad Lemblin, (ca. about 1290) - Schaffes in Bamberg

probably:

5. Eberlin Lemlein, (* about 1290) - in Pödeldorf near Bamberg

About Chunrad Lembelin

Regesten:

(See, for example, the justification to the probable or presumed sons, which are not recorded in the document As sons.

• 1305 in the Nuremberg Citizen's Book: "Fritzo de Golnhoven , p (ro) quo fid (ant) H. Stromair and Chunr Lembelin , Mathie (February 24)". - Civil right for "Fritz von Golnhoven, for which H.Stromair and Chunr. Lembelin vouched, on February 24". - The list of citizens begins in 1302; According to this, Chunr. Lembelin was already an established citizen in 1302, who could vouch for new citizens.

[Handwritten in the StsA Nuremberg, Rep.52 b: Official Journal, Nr.228, fol.4 a: Bürgerverzeichnis anno 1302-15. - G. Hirschmann (eds.): The Nuremberg Citizens' Books, in: QGKultNürnb Bd.9 (1979), Nr.98]

[Comp. Herbert E. Lemmel, "Heiratskreis", Bl.f.Fränk.Fam'kde Bd.9 (Nov. 1966), pp. 80-95. - I can not follow the following discussion of the connection between Lembelin - Lampert v.Gerolzhofen. (HDL)]

[Comp. Charlotte Scheffler-Erhard: Old-Nuremberg Dictionary of Names, Nuremberg 1959, p.207]

[Comp. Georg Wolfgang Karl Lochner, Nuremberg Yearbooks, Nuremberg, 1832, Book 3, p.168]

• Had perhaps a possession in Claffheim near Ansbach:

Item Ulr. Dictus Bosse tenet mediam partem decime in villa et marchia Byndernach (or Sundernach). Item in villa Flasland mansum et mediam partem decime eiusdem et de quinque mansis decimam partis medie. Item in villa Clafheim have in decima dicta

→ Lemelinsgerüth totam decimam et decimam curie dicti Bonacker. Item in villa Wustendorf decimam de 12 agris. (To be dated 1319 or 1320.)

[Hermann Hoffmann: The oldest fiefdom of the Würzburg Collegiate, 1st part of Würzburg 1972, p.169 No. 1601. - And:

Franz Hüttner: The Feud of the Würzburg Bishop Gottfried III. V.Hohenlohe 1317-1322, Berlin 1901, p.96 No. 506.]

According to this, Ulrich Bosse owned an estate at Ansbach in 1319/20, named Lemelinsgerüth. The name can go back to a previous owner named Lemelin, which may be Chunrad Lembelin or even his father. - 1335/37 the name of the same property has already been mutilated. [Hoffmann, as before, p.365, No. 3629.]

• In the Urbar of the office Berngau a

"" Agnellus " for a half-stroke, in two entries, one of which is to be dated after 1270, the other by or before 1326.

[See in detail at N-21 / a]

• Agnellus = Lemlein. The entry after 1270 may refer to Chunrad's father, who from 1326 refer to Chunrad's nephews. (HDL)

→ Inge Höfler found a "Falckenstein certificate" of 1296 in an archive in 1991: "Conrad Lemmel donates a mountain from Neumarkt as a sea tool". She forgot to record the source and could not find it again later. If the quote is correct, the document would be extremely important. - Herbert E. Lemmel quoted a document with Godefridus de Wolffstein "Falckenstein page 103 No.CXVI" (without indicating a year). In this work, he did not find any Lemmel account.

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My Paternal 19x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 20x Great Grandfather:

(Unknown) Lembelin (1220 - )

Also known as: "Lembelin, in Nuremberg, ("Agnellus" in Berngau)"

Birth: circa 1220

Death: unknown

Occupation: Around 1280 "Agnellus" (= Lämmlein) has half a hoof at Forst in the office Berngau near Neumarkt / OPf.

Parents:

(Unknown) Lembelin

1185-

Unknown Mother

Family

Spouse Unknown

Children:

1. Chunrad Lembelin, (* about 1250) - citizen in Nuremberg

About (Unknown) Lembelin (1220 - )

Regesten:

• Salbüchlein for the Reichsamt Berngau near Neumarkt / OPf around 1270/1280

(Dating with Herbert E. Lemmel "about 1270 ff", with Federhofer "around 1280"):

• In officio Perngaw: ... Item a aput Vorst tota villa et curia Chromarii soluit xx lib. - De prima huba Al. Xviii sol - huba H. de Eilmarstorf xviii sol - Dimidia huba Agnelli ix sol ....

• A later entry (before) 1326 repeats the above information, in particular the order of the Huben and their owners.

• The office of Berngau, which also includes Neumarkt, has an "ammann". After the death of Konradin, the Wittelsbachers were divided. Rudolf of Hapsburg, Duke Ludwig II had the property in 1274, but the Reich retained a number of claims. (HEL)

[Herbert E. Lemmel, "The Genetic Continuity of the Medieval Adelaide", Degener 1980, p.110 and footnotes 335, 336. - Sources indicated: MB 36 p.1 ff no.1; And Monumenta Germanica Historica, Legum Secto IV, p.628.]

(The equilibrium of "Agnellus" with Walter Lampert v.Gerolzhofen by Herbert E. Lemmel is absolutely untenable.) (HDL)

[In a manuscript of 1986 HEL gives as source: MGH Const. II p.627 no.644; In addition to an edition and criticism of the "Nürnberger Salbüchleins", 1883, p.108.]

• This farm near Forst in the Amt Berngau is later owned by the Neumarkter Lemlein / Lemmel, so that the "Agnellus" mentioned here must be a "Lemlein".

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My Paternal 20x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 21x Great Grandfather:

(Unknown) Lembelin (1185 - )

Also known as: "Lembelin, in Nuremberg"

Birth: circa 1185

Death: unknown

Occupation: No certificate received.

Parents:

(Unknown) Lembelin

1150-

Unknown Mother

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. (Unknown) Lembelin, (* about 1220) - in Nuremberg, (= "Agnellus" in Berngau)

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My Paternal 21x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 22x Great Grandfather:

(Unknown) Lembelin (1150 - )

Also known as: "Lemblein, 1197 "the Lemblein" in Nuremberg"

Birth: circa 1150

Death: unknown

Occupation: According to questionable report 1197 "the Lemblein" in Nuremberg.

Parents:

(Unknown) Lembelin

1120-

Unknown Mother

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. (Unknown) Lembelin, (* about? 1185) - in Nuremberg

About (Unknown) Lembelin 1150

Regesten:

• In 1197, the Lempfer as a citizen of Nuremberg, with 6 horses, was to take part in a tournament of Emperor Henry VI. have participated.

[Gerhard Hirschmann: Johannes Müllner, The Annals of the Reichsstadt Nuremberg, 1623. Nuremberg, 1972]

→ This report is viewed as a fantasy product. But he shows that at the time of the "fiction" of this report, that is, before 1623, the Lemblein was regarded as an old Nuremberg family. After Nuremberg's Lembelin can be proven around 1150, the presence of a family Lemblein in Nuremberg at the time of this legendary tournament is quite credible. According to the number of horses, however, the importance of the Lemblein (6 horses) is comparatively low. Among the listed families are only three who place less than 6 horses, but 33 who place more than six horses (up to 19).

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My Paternal 22x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 23x Great Grandfather:

(Unknown) Lembelin (1120 - )

Also known as: "Lembelin, in Nuremberg"

Birth: circa 1120

Death: unknown

Occupation: Not mentioned by document. Probable brother of "Cunradus Lembelin from Nuremberg", who is mentioned as citizen in Cologne in 1151-1156.

Parents:

(Unknown) Lembelin

1090-

Unknown Mother

Family:

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. (Unknown) Lembelin, (* about? 1150) - 1197 "the Lemblein" in Nuremberg

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My Paternal 23x Great Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 24x Great Grandfather:

(Unknown) Lembelin (1090 - )

Also known as: "Lembelin, in Nuremberg"

Birth: circa 1090

Death: unknown

Occupation: The presumed father of "Cunradus Lembelin from Nuremberg", who is called in Cologne in 1151-1156, and another son who was probably left in Nuremberg.

Parents

Unknown Parents

Family

Unknown Spouse

Children:

1. (Unknown) Lembelin, (about 1120) - in Nuremberg

2. Cunradus Lembelin from Nuremberg (Chunrad Lembelin de Nurenberch), (about 1120) - citizens in Cologne from Nuremberg

About (Unknown) Lembelin (1090 - )

Regesten:

→ It is not certain whether the Nuremberg family Lembelin, which appears in Cologne around 1150, is the same family Lembelin, who lives around 1300 in Nuremberg. Only the fact that the Nuremberg genealogies regard the Lembelin / Lemlein as an "old" family in Nuremberg makes it probable that it is really around 1150 and around 1300 around the same family.

http://geneal.lemmel.at/NurnbergBilder.html

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Lembelin Family Crest Lämmle Family Crest

Origin of lastname Lembelin , country of origin: Deutschland (Origin of last name Lämmle):

Cuonrad Lembelin 1149 Nuremberg Musketeer Marcmannus 1155 Cologne German Knight and Bishop Marcmannus 1165 Heilbronn Kramer First name Lambert. Lembelin Since the outgoing 13th century, from Charles IV (1346-1378), there are emperor coats of arms, without raising the beneficiaries to the aristocracy. In the fifteenth century they entrusted the patriarch of the coat of arms with the coat of arms, which since then had also given the citizens' family coat of arms.

Name meaning:

Laemmel > Lamb ("Little Lamb" or, "Passover Lamb")

(also spelled, Laemmle, Lämmel, Lämmle, Laemmlie, Laemle, Lemmel, Lemmle, Laemml, Lembelin, Lelein, Lemmel, Lämel, Lömel, Lömmel, Lemlein, Lemm, Lamm, Lamb, Lemblin, Lembl, Lämbl, Lammel, Lemblein, Lammlein)

Note: The famous movie director, Carl Laemmle, said his name is pronounced as if it were spelled, "lem-lee".

Germany: Lamm Coat of Arms / Family Crest

Ritter Lemmel von Seedorf - Coat of Arms

It is noted that the Lamm coat of arms of the Lemmel of Seedorf is similar to the Lemblin of Rennertshofen.

The History of The Saxonian Lemmel / Lämmel Family

About the origin of the US Lemmel/Laemmel families

Families with the name "Lemmel" originate from Germany, mainly the province of Saxony, and the neighboring countries, specifically Alsace (in the northeast of France), Switzerland, Austria, Bohemia, and some more. The spelling of the name is varying: "Lemmel", "Lemel", "Lämmel", "Laemmel". These are different variants of the same name. Of all these variants I have a fairly complete archive for the seven centuries from 1300 to present.

Until the 19th century the spelling of names was not fixed. There are cases where the one of two brothers spelt his name "Lemmel", and the other "Lämmel". When a "Lämmel" went to America where the ä-Umlaut is not known, his name was recorded either as "Laemmel" or as "Lammel". The latter form, "Lammel", makes family research a bit difficult, because the fairly frequent German family name "Lammel" is a separate name and not a variant of "Lemmel/Lämmel".

Most of the Lemmel / Lämmel / Laemmel families originate from the same root. This could be proven for many branches; for some other branches where the proof was not yet possible, the common root appears to be most likely. The first known ancestor is "Chunrad Lembelin" who lived as a merchant in Nuremberg (Nürnberg in Franconia in Northern Bavaria) around 1300. In the next generations the name changed to "Lemlin", "Lemlein", "Lemmel" and a few more variants.

Due to lack of written documents it is not possible to trace back the family even further, but the name "Lembelin" is documented in Nuremberg already around the year 1150, more than 800 years ago.

Not related to the Nuremberg Lemmels are Lemmel and Lämmel families of Jewish origin, where the same family name emerged independently in different families not related to each other. But in the one or other case it might be as well that a Jewish Lemmel family originated from a Christian Lemmel who married a Jewish wife.

The Lemmels and Laemmels in the United States may be divided into

four groups:

1. coming from Alsace near the French-German border.

2. coming from Saxony.

3. coming from various parts of Germany.

4. of Jewish origin.

In all of these four groups the spellings Lemmel, Laemmel or, sometimes, Lammel are used in USA. It is the Alsace Lemmels who have by far the largest number of descendants in the United States.

The Lembelin-Lemlein-Lemmel connection (in Nuremberg)

http://geneal.lemmel.at/NurnbergBilder.html

The Lemmels and Laemmels from Saxony in USA

A Laemmel branchfrom Germany in Missouri

Louis Laemmel – in St.Louis,Mo; Carlyle,Ill; Detroit

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Lemmel/Laemmel Families in the United States

http://geneal.lemmel.at/USALemmel.html

H.D. Lemmel 1997, thereafter supplemented

By the year 2000 I have discovered 36 Lemmel/Laemmel immigrations to the US, the first in 1751, and most of them between 1850 and 1920. Some of them had no descendants or only daughters who did not preserve the family name; others had many sons and their families spread all over the United States. The majority lives in the states of Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio. Throughout the US there may be a total of 200 Lemmel and Laemmel addresses in the telefone books.

About the origin of the US Lemmel/Laemmel families

Families with the name "Lemmel" originate from Germany, mainly the province of Saxony, and the neighboring countries, specifically Alsace (in the northeast of France), Switzerland, Austria, Bohemia, and some more. The spelling of the name is varying: "Lemmel", "Lemel", "Lämmel", "Laemmel". These are different variants of the same name. Of all these variants I have a fairly complete archive for the seven centuries from 1300 to present.

Until the 19th century the spelling of names was not fixed. There are cases where the one of two brothers spelt his name "Lemmel", and the other "Lämmel". When a "Lämmel" went to America where the ä-Umlaut is not known, his name was recorded either as "Laemmel" or as "Lammel". The latter form, "Lammel", makes family research a bit difficult, because the fairly frequent German family name "Lammel" is a separate name and not a variant of "Lemmel/Lämmel".

Most of the Lemmel / Lämmel / Laemmel families originate from the same root. This could be proven for many branches; for some other branches where the proof was not yet possible, the common root appears to be most likely. The first known ancestor is "Chunrad Lembelin" who lived as a merchant in Nuremberg (Nürnberg in Franconia in Northern Bavaria) around 1300. In the next generations the name changed to "Lemlin", "Lemlein", "Lemmel" and a few more variants.

Due to lack of written documents it is not possible to trace back the family even further, but the name "Lembelin" is documented in Nuremberg already around the year 1150, more than 800 years ago.

Not related to the Nuremberg Lemmels are Lemmel and Lämmel families of Jewish origin, where the same family name emerged independently in different families not related to each other. But in the one or other case it might be as well that a Jewish Lemmel family originated from a Christian Lemmel who married a Jewish wife.

The Lemmels and Laemmels in the United States may be divided into

four groups:

1. coming from Alsace near the French-German border.

2. coming from Saxony.

3. coming from various parts of Germany.

4. of Jewish origin.

In all of these four groups the spellings Lemmel, Laemmel or, sometimes, Lammel are used in USA. It is the Alsace Lemmels who have by far the largest number of descendents in the United States.

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Links:

Kracke-Helmstatt + Ahlstrom-Costa (Family Tree)

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/65343004/person/38131880277/facts

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My Great Aunt:

Jeanette Laemmel in the 1940 Census:

Age at Time of Census: 28

Gender: Female

Race: White

Ethnicity: American

Est. Birth Year: 1912

Birth Location: New Hampshire

Enumeration District: 82-170

Residence: Tract 820, Lincoln Park, Lincoln Park City, Wayne, MI

Relationship to Head of Household: Wife

Other People in Household:

Leonard Laemmel (my great uncle)

42 yrs, Male

Dorothy Laemmel

9 yrs, Female

Darlene Laemmel

6 yrs, Female

Garnet Laemmel

5 yrs, Female

Donald Laemmel

3 yrs, Male

http://www.archives.com/1940-census/jeanette-laemmel-mi-121764653

http://geneal.lemmel.at/Mo.html

http://person.ancestrylibrary.com/tree/75348306/person/42313639674/story

http://www.4crests.com/lambe-coat-of-arms.html

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See also:

My Personal Testimony:

https://sites.google.com/site/brothershanespersonaltestimony/home/my-personal-testimony