Bates Line (Saybrook, CT)

Bates Line (Saybrook, CT)

Parents:

James Bates

1624-1689

Hannah Withington

1625-1691

Family

Spouse:

Mary Chapman

1655-1726

Mary Bates

Also known as: "Susan Marie Chapman"

Birthdate: April 15, 1655

Birthplace: Old Saybrook, New London County, Connecticut Colony

Denomination: (probably) Puritan / Congregationalist

Date of Marriage: May 2, 1676

Place of Marriage: Old Saybrook, New London County, Connecticut Colony

Mary Chapman

Death: April 5, 1726 in Old Saybrook, New London County, Connecticut Colony

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Robert Chapman, of Boston & Saybrook and Ann Bliss

See: Chapman Family Line

Children:

1. Anna Bates 1678- Married 12 November 1702 to Benjamin Pratt 1681-

2. Silence Bates 1680- Married 10 April 1707, Saybrook, Middlesex Co., CT, to Jonathan Hough 1680-1720

3. Samuel Bates 1682-1715 Married 5 April 1705, Old Saybrook, Middlesex Co., CT, to Hannah Jordan 1681-

4. James Bates 1683-1718 Married 18 September 1707, Saybrook, Middlesex Co., CT, to Hannah Bull 1681-1772

5. Stephen Bates 1689-1767 Married 29 December 1715, Durham, Middlesex Co., CT, to Patience Seward 1694-1770

About Samuel Bates

Sources

Vital Records of Saybrook, 1647-1834 (The Connecticut Historical Society, Hartford, 1952) Page 11

Nash, Sylvester. Records of Saybrook, CT., The New England Historical & Genealogical Register, (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Mass., 1850) Vol. 4, Page 19

Yates Publishing, U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 (Provo, UT, USA, The Generations Network, Inc., 2004)

Torrey, Clarence Almon. Torrey’s New England Marriages Prior to 1700 (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, 1985)

p. 52. "BATES, Samuel (-1699) & Mary CHAPMAN; 2 May 1676; Saybrook, CT."at WorldCat

References:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/M463-1QC/samuel-bates-1648-1699

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-1527

https://www.geni.com/people/Samuel-Bates/6000000002210224999

https://www.geni.com/people/Samuel-Bates/6000000081878390924

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowling&p=samuel&n=bates&oc=2

http://www.newmediamarkets.com/jamesharper/descendants/D0016/I2451.html

http://www.wellswooster.com/sambates.htm

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Samuel_Bates_%2826%29

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Grandy's 7x Great-Grandfather:

My 9x Great-Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 10x Great-Grandfather:

Parents:

James Bates, of Dorchester

1582-1655

Alice Glover

1583-1657

Family

Spouse:

Hannah Withington

1625-1691

Hannah Bates

Also Known As: "Ann", "Anne"

Birthdate: 1625

Birthplace: London, England

Date of Marriage: February 23, 1644

Place of Marriage: Hampstead, Long Island, New York

Death: bef. February 16, 1691 in Huntington, Suffolk County (Long island), Province of New York

Burial: New York

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Henry Withington and Elizabeth Smith

Children:

1. Samuel Bates 1648-1699 Married 2 May 1676, Saybrook, Middlesex Co., CT, to Mary Chapman 1655-1726

2. John Bates 1649-1719 Married in 1677, Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT, to Elizabeh Beckwith 1647-1718

3. Elizabeth Bates 1654- Married to Thomas Spencer 1648-1700

4. Alice Bates 1655-

5. James Bates 1662-

6. Margaret Bates 1664-1736 Married in 1684 to William Spencer ca 1656-1736

7. Mary Bates ca 1666 Married 18 April 1684, Saybrook, Middlesex Co., CT, to Samuel Hough 1653-1718

8. Hannah Bates 1668-

9. Edward Bates 1670-

About James Bates

Sailed to Virginia in 1635 but returned to England. Eventually returned at settled in Haddam, CT as one of the original proprietors.

First person to use name "Bates" with an "s"

Occupation: Schoolmaster

1678 Selectman

Event: Arrived New England 1635 on Ship Elizabeth

Event: Deathdate verif Hobart Journal notes age at time of death was 69 years.

Burial: 1689 Hingham, Massachusetts

Note: Conflict note: 19th and 20th Century genealogical researchers differ in as signing the parents of James Bates, born in England in 1621. All seem to agree that he married Ruth Lyford in Hingham, Ma. in 1643 BUT some researchers make him the son of Clement and Anna Bates, as I have noted he re and some make him the brother of Clement Bates. On the ships passenger list (PLANTERS OF THE COMMONWEALTH 1620-1640, by Charles Edward Banks ), a James Bates age 14 arrived in New England in 1635 with the Clement and Anne Bates family. Also arriving in 1635 there was a James Bates a ge 53 and Alice Bates age 52 and family, All of the above were from Lydd, Kent, England. It would appear that the James Bates, son of Clement Bates is the same James Bates that married Ruth Lyford.

GEDCOM Source

@R1200268534@ Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.

GEDCOM Source

Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=80661488&pid=68

Biography

James Bates 1624-1689 and Ann Withington 1625-1700 were two of the first 28 settlers of Hadden Island located on the southern coast of Connecticut as per the article of the 104 Square Miles of land were bought from the local Indians for 30 coats ($100.) [1]

Origin

James was baptized on 19 December 1624 at Lydd, co. Kent, England, the son of James Bates and Alice Glover.[2]

Immigration

On 17 April 1635, "James Bate aged 53" and his family was enrolled at London, as passengers aboard the Elizabeth.[2] James is listed as a husbandman. With him were his wife, Alice, and children, Lydia, aged 20 years, Mary, aged 17 years, Margaret, aged 12 years, and James, aged 9 years.[3]

Family

James married by 1648 to Ann aka Hannah Withington.[2]

Children

Samuel Bates b: 18 Jun 1648 in Dorchester, Long Island Co., NY c: 19 Jun 1648 in Haddam, Middlesex Co., CT - d. 28 Dec. 1699; m. 2 May 1676 Mary Chapman

John Bates b: 7 Oct 1649 in Scituate, Plymouth, MA c: 7 Oct 1649

Mary Bates b: 11 Mar 1666 in New London, New London, CT c: 11 Mar 1666 in Of Huntington, Suffolk, Ny + m. 18 Aug. 1685 Samuel Hough.

Margaret Bates b: 19 Jun 1664 in East Haddam, Middlesex, CT c: 19 Jun 1664 in East Haddam, Middlesex, CT

James Jr. 4Th Bates b: 15 Feb 1662 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA c: 20 Apr 1662 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA + Mary II

Hannah Bates b: 7 Sep 1668 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT c: 7 Mar 1669 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT

Elizabeth Bates b: 17 Dec 1654 in Of, Huntington, Suffolk, New York +abt 1673 to Thomas Spencer b: ABT 1648

Alice Bates b: 1657 in Of Huntington, Suffolk, New York c: 1657 in Haddam, , CT d young

Mary Bates b: Jan 1654 in Of Huntington, Suffolk, New York d young

Edward Bates b: Abt 1670 in Of Haddam, Middlesex, CT

Margaret Bates b: 17 Jul 1664 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA c: 17 Jul 1664 in Dorchester, Suffolk, MA

[4]

In 1654/55, daughter Mary was assigned a guardian, her maternal grandfather, Elder Withington, named her at the First Church of Dorchester, Suffolk County, Massachusetts.

Mary Bates daughter of James Bates was baptized, her

ffather beinge them [from] home gone ffor England by waye of virg[nia] her Grandffather - Elder withing to gaver her a name[5]

Death and Legacy

Death July 5, 1689 and place of Huntington, Suffolk, New York. [6]

Sources

↑ https://familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/6132899

↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Anderson, Robert Charles, et al., James Bate Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B. Page 200 (Online database accessed February 3, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.)

↑ Hotten, John Camden, (1874) The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants ... London: Hotten, Archive.org (Page 68).

↑ Planters Of The Commonwealth 1620-1640, Genealogical Register Of The First Settlers Of New England, Pioneers Of MA, Founders Of Early American Families

↑ Pope, Charles H., Records of the First Church at Dorchester in New England 1636-1734. (p.166) Boston, MA: George H. Ellis, 1891

↑ Planters Of The Commonwealth 1620-1640, Genealogical Register Of The First Settlers Of New England, Pioneers Of MA, Founders Of Early American Families

Robert Charles. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633, Vol 1, A-B, page 200 Ancestry.com link

Bates, Albert Carlos, Ancestral Line for Eight Gnerations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants. ( pp. 12-14) Hartford CT: [s.p.] 1943, HathiTrust.org accessed February 5, 2015.

References

↑ 1.0 1.1 James Bate, in Anderson, Robert Charles; George F. Sanborn; and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635. (NEHGS, 1999-2011).

Children... ix James, bp Lydd 19 December 1624 [NEHGR 51:270]; m. by 1648 Hannah Withington (eldest known child bp. Dorchester 19 June 1648 [DChR 159]; in early March 1654/5 "Mary Bates daughter of James Bates [was] baptized, her father being then [from] home gone for England by way of Virg[inia], her grandfather - Elder Withington gave her a name" [DChR 166]).

↑ 2.0 2.1 Withington, Frederick Scherer. Henry Withington of Dorchester, Mass., and Some of His Descendants. New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Apr, Jul, Oct 1921; Jan 1922)

76:26.

"Mr. Albert C. Bates, Librarian of the Connecticut Historical Society, Hartford, Conn., writes that there is no reason known to him for thinking that Anne (Withington) Bates ever lived at Huntington, Long Island, where, according to this article, she died in 1700. Mr. Bates states that she died before 16 Feb. 1691/2, when the children of 'James and hanah bate late of haddam deseased' signed an agreement dividing, apparently, 'the whole estat of the said James and Anna bate.' (Haddam Land Records, vol. 1, p. 22.) The wording of this agreement, continues Mr. Bates, indicates that Anne survived her husband and had come into possession of his property."

References:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/M6FN-6DB/james-bates-1624-1689

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-4231

https://www.geni.com/people/James-Bates-III/6000000003397188205

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowling&p=james&n=bates&oc=1

http://www.newmediamarkets.com/jamesharper/descendants/D0040/I2448.html

http://www.wellswooster.com/sambates.htm

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:James_Bate_%288%29

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Grandy's 8x Great-Grandfather:

My 10x Great-Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 11x Great-Grandfather:

Alice Glover

1583-1657

Alice Bates

Birthdate: ca. May 1583

Birthplace: Saltwood, Shepway District, Kent, England

Denomination: (probably) Puritan

Marriage License: September 13, 1603, Archdiocese of Canterbury

Date of Marriage: September 16, 1603

Place of Marriage: Saltwood, Kent, England

Arrival: On 17 April 1635, "James Bate aged 53" and his family was enrolled at London, as passengers aboard the Elizabeth.

Death: August 14, 1657 in Dorchester, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Sir William Glover and Anne Goverard

Children:

1. Thomazine Bates /1605-

2. Johanna Bates 1605..1626-1683 Married in 1638 to Gabriel Meade 1587-1666

3. William Bates /1607-

4. Richard Bates /1609-

5. Elizabeth Bates 1610-1679 Married in 1638, Higham, Plymouth Co., MA, to Thomas Lawrence /1610-1655

6. Thomazine Bates 1612-

7. Lydia Bates /1615-

8. Mary Bates /1619- Married in 1639, Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA, to Hopestill Foster, Cpt. ca 1621-1676

9. Margaret Bates /1621-

10. John Bates /1623-

11. James Bates /1624-1689 Married 23 February 1644, Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA, to Ann Hannah Withington 1625-1690

About James Bates, of Dorchester

James Bates II migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640).

Elizabeth (1635)

Sailed: mid Apr 1635 from London, England under Master William Stagg

Arrived: July? 1635 at Massachusetts Bay Colony

Passengers:

? (Full List) Clement Bate family (servant Jervice Gold) - James Bates family - John. and William Beamond - Rachell Bigg - William Bracey - Daniel Bradley - Jo: Browne - Henrie Bull - Edward Bullock family - Ralph Chapman - Jo: Cluffe - Margaret Davies family - Jo: Duke - Robert ffaronds - Patience Foster and son Hopestill - Peter Gardner - Edward Gold - Versala Greenway - Samuel Haleward - William Holdred - James Hosmer family (servants Marie Dounard - Marie Martin) - Jo: Hubbard- William Hubbard - John. Johnson (age 23) - Thomas Lettyne - Edward Loomis - Thomas Millet family - Jo: Mussell - Roger Preston - George Russell - Joan Sellin and daughter - Jo: Smith - Thomas Smith - Isack Stedman family - John Stone - Peter Thorne - Robert Thornton - Dorothy Smith and daughter - James Walker - Richard Walker - Sarra Walker - William Walker - Joshua Wheat - William Whitteredd family - Francis White - William Wild family - Jo: Wynchester

Resources: Primary Sources: Other information: Passenger List...

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/elizabeth1635.shtml

James and Alice had only 9 children. Thomazine 1, William, Thomazine 2, and John died young in England. Richard stayed in England and married twice, Lydia, Mary, Margaret, and James III came with parents to Massachusetts. They are well documented. Also see his profile as James Bate in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B. {Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume 1, A-B, by Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999

Geographical Note:Dorchester was founded in 1630 in conjunction with immigration on the Mary & John as part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. It was included within Suffolk County when the county was created May 10, 1643. MBC was merged into the Province of Massachusetts Bay on May 14, 1692. Dorchester was annexed by Boston in sections between March 1804 and June 1869, and the entire town had been annexed by January 3,1870. The location of the cemetery is listed with current geographical place names to facilitate identification.

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Biography

James Bates, Jr. was born on December 2, 1582 in Lydd, Kent, England and was baptized on December 2, 1582 there. His parents were John or James Bates and Mary K (Martine) Bates. He was a selectman, representative.

James married Alice (Glover) Bates circa September 13, 1603 in England. Together they had the following children: William Bates; Thomazine Bates; Edward Bates; Richard Bates; Elizabeth Martine (Bates) Lawrence; Clement or Clements Bates; Lydia (Bates) Williams; Robert Bates, of Stamford; Margaret (Bates) Gibson; John Bates; James Bates, III; Mary (Bates) Foster.

He died on November 22, 1655 in Dorchester, Suffolk County, Massachusetts and was buried in 1655 in MA.

Sailed on ship Elizabeth from London to Dorchester, MA on April 17, 1635. Mead ancestors were on Board as James and Alice's daughter Joanna was married to Goodman Mead. Goodman and Thomas Mead were on boat. James was middle class farmer and elder of Congregational Church in Dorchester

Came from England with the Fosters in the Elizabeth in 1635 and settled at Dorchester. He was a cousin of widow Patience Foster. He married in 1603 to Alice Glover of Saltwood, England b 1583, d. August, 14, 1657. For centuries the family of Bate or Bates was seated in the old town of Lydd, county of Kent, and for successive generations held the offices of Cheif magistrate and Jurat. Thomas Bate was of the manor and estate of jaques Court and also tenant of the manor of New Langport both near Lydd. master james Bates brought with him from England his wife Alice and four children. He was ruling elder of the church selectmen several years and Deputy in 1640. He died in 1655 leaving estate in England and in massachusetts. His son Richard lived at Lydd and was the only one of the family left behind in the emigration to America. Richard was named trustee in his father's will, but died March6, 1656. Another son, James, was born in 1626 and lived in Dorchester, and settled his father's estate there.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-732

James Bates aka Bate Born before 2 Dec 1582 in Lydd, Kent, England

Ancestors ancestors

Son of James (Bate) Bates and Mary Martine

Brother of Andrew Bate Bates, Edmund Bates, Robert (Bate) Bates, Anna Bates, Thomas (Bate) Bates, Edward Bates, Clement Bates, Joseph Bates, Mary Bates, Isaac Bates, Rachel Bates, Martha Bates and Joanna (Bates) Eddy

Husband of Alice Glover — married 13 Sep 1603 in Lydd, Kent, England

Descendants descendants

Father of Johanna Bates, William (Bates) Bate, Richard Bate, Elizabeth (Bates) Lawrence, Clements Bates, Thomazine Bates, Mary Bates, Margaret (Bates) Gibson, John Bates and James Bates

Died 22 Nov 1655 in Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA

James Bates aka Bate Born before 2 Dec 1582 in Lydd, Kent, Englandmap Ancestors ancestors Son of James (Bate) Bates and Mary Martine Brother of Andrew Bate Bates, Edmund Bates, Robert (Bate) Bates, Anna Bates, Thomas (Bate) Bates, Edward Bates, Clement Bates, Joseph Bates, Mary Bates, Isaac Bates, Rachel Bates, Martha Bates and Joanna (Bates) Eddy Husband of Alice Glover — married 13 Sep 1603 in Lydd, Kent, Englandmap Descendants descendants Father of Johanna Bates, William (Bates) Bate, Richard Bate, Elizabeth (Bates) Lawrence, Clements Bates, Thomazine Bates, Mary Bates, Margaret (Bates) Gibson, John Bates and James Bates Died 22 Nov 1655 in Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USAmap Profile managers: Todd Altic private message [send private message], Merry Ann Palmer private message [send private message], and James Bates private message [send private message] Bates-732 created 9 May 2011 | Last modified 15 Mar 2016 This page has been accessed 2,122 times.

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James's father James Bates ... James's mother Mary Martine Contents [hide]

1 Biography 1.1 Origin 1.2 Family 1.3 Immigration 1.4 Religion 1.5 Death and Legacy 1.6 Last Will & Testament 2 Sources

Biography

James Bate[1] Origin

James was baptized on 2 December 1582 at Lydd, county Kent, England, the son of James Bate and Mary (Martine?) Bate.[1] Family

James married at Saltwood, Kent, England, on 16 September 1603 (license issued 13 September), to Alice Glover.[1][2]

Children:[1]

Thomazine Bate (the 1st) bpt. 26 May 1605, d 1606 William Bates bpt. 9 July 1607, d 1625 Richard Bate bpt 12 Nov 1609; mar 1) Susan Isham, Ellen Wallis (remained in England, d there) Thomazine Bates (the 2nd) b by 1614, d 1624 Lydia Bate bpt. at Lydd; 22 Oct 1615; mar by 1649, as his 2nd, to Roger Williams of Dorchester Mary Bate bpt. 21 Nov 1619 at Lydd; mar Hopestill Foster Margaret Bate bpt. 16 Sept 1621 at Lydd; mar Christopher Gibson John Bates bpt 4 May 1623 at Lydd, d 1625 James Bate bpt. 19 Dec 1624 at Lydd; mar Hannah Withington

Albert Carlos Bates in Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, reports additional children, not included by Anderson in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B.

Johanna Bates Elizabeth Bates Clements Bates

Immigration

On 17 April 1635, the "James Bate aged 53" family was enrolled at London, as passengers aboard the Elizabeth.[1]

Note: 'James Bates of Dorchester was a brother of Clement of Hingham. The two families came over together on the ship Elizabeth, leaving London April 6, 1635. James is listed as a husbandman. With him were his wife, Alice, and children, Lydia, aged 20 years, Mary, aged 17 years, Margaret, aged 12 years, and James, aged 9 years. Four children had died at Lydd, England. One son, Richard, remained in England. James settled in Dorchester where he was made Freeman Dec. 7, 1636. He was also Selectman, Elder, and Representative. He died 1655 and his wife 1657. In his will he leves the greater part of his propety to his son Richard, in Lydd, England. 'His daughter Lydia married Roger Williams of Dorchester, Mary married Hopestill Foster, and Margaret married Christopher Gibson.

'The son, James, married Ann Withington and removed to Haddam, Conn., about 1662. Their children were Samuel, born 1648, who married Mary Chapman, and resided at Saybrook; James, Margaret, Mary, John, Hannah, Elizabeth, and perhaps Alice and Mary. Several of the sons were prominent in the early Connecticut history, and their descendants are still found in that state....'[3]

Event:

Type: Biography Note: 'In Hotten's Book, 'Lists of Emigrants to America: is the following list of those who came over in April, on the Elizabeth:

17 Arpilis 1635. 'Theis pties hereunder expressed ar to be transported to New England, imbarqued in ye Elizabeth, Wm. Stagg, Mr. p. cert. from the Ministers and Justices of the Peace of their conformitie to the Church of England they have taken the oaths of Allegiance and supremacie. Husbandman - James Bates, 53 years Alice Bates, 52 years. Lyddia Bates, 20 years Marie Bates, 17 years Margaret Bates, 12 years James Bates, 9 years 'James, the above husbandman, came to Dorchester, MA., was made freeman, Dec. 7, 1636, and selectman next year. 'He was representative for Hingham in 1641, he was also an 'Elder' there. 'Of the children who came to this country with him, Lyddia married Roger Wiliams of Dorchester; Mary married a gentleman who rejoiced in the name of Hopestill Foster, and Margaret a man by the name of Christopher Gibson. His son James married Ann, daughter of the first Henry Withington, and went to Haddam, CT. 'Elder James Bates died in 1655 and his wife Alice in 1657. 'He made his will Nov. 22, 1655, noticed his 'sonne Richard Bate of Lid Towne in Kent in Old England' by giving him all his lands, moveable goods and debts that he then had or should have in Old or New England, as his own, unless altered by the Testator, and made Richard sole executor. On the 26th of November, 1655, his codicil provided that his son James should be joined as executor with Richard only for the purpose of receiving such debts as were owed him in New England and to sell such lands and goods, excepting such as he had directed to be given to his grandchild James Foster, provided he made a true inventory and conveyed the estate to his son Richard. 'In Elder Bates' later directions he notices his former will and gives to the three children of his so James, viz. Samuel, Allice and Mary L100 each when 21 years old and to his son James to have the use of L300 for and towards bringing up of said children, provided he should go with his family to live in England and give security to pay the L300. His house, orchard and 3 acres of planting land adjoining the meadow back of the dwelling house in Dorchester, N.E., he gave his grandson James Foster, provided his wife Allice Bate had the support of the house, etc. He evidently had not entire confidence in his son-in-law Mr. Christopher Gibson, for after his death, one, Roger Clapp of Dorchester, aged about 46 years, testified that he visited Mr. James Bate in his last illness and he entreated him 'to take a witness with him, that it was his will that his daughter Gibson, should have 10 pounds for her own use and NOT her husband.' 'The son James may have followed his father's instructions and gone to England with his family and perhaps stayed long enough to get possession of the three hundred pounds, but he must have returned to New England in a very few years and gone to Haddam, Ct....'[4]

Event:

Type: Source-add Note: 1. A Bates-Breed Acnestry; George E.Bates; Boston, MA; 1975.

Event:

Type: Biography Note: 'James (son of James, baptised in Lydd Dec. 2, 1582. He was licensed Sept. 13, 1603, to marry Alice Glover of Saltwood, a parish not far from Lydd. She was born in 1583 and died Aug. 14, 1657. Their conformity to the Church of England having been certified and they having taken two oaths of allegiance and supremacy, James, noted as a husbandman, his wife and their children, except Richard, the eldest son, embarked on the 'Elizabeth' from the port of London April 17, 1635, for New England. Arriving in America they settled in Dorchester, Mass. On the same ship came Clement, the brother of James, with his family; they settling at Hingham, Mass. James was granted land in Dorchester Feb. 18, 1635/6, and at sundry later times. In December of the same year he was made a freeman of the Massachusetts Colony. Some time between August 1636, when the Congregational Church was organized, and November 1639, both he and his wife Alice were admitted to membership; later he was a ruling elder of the church. In 1640 he was a deputy to the General Court. He held several town offices and was appointed on a number of committees of the town. James made his will Nov. 22, 1655, and died in Dorchester before Jan. 8, 1655/6. He made his son Richard of Lydd executor of his estate in both Old and New England, to divide the estate according to his discretion, except that his wife is to have her maintenance from it, that Samuel, Alice and Mary, children of his son James, each to have L100. His grandson James Foster to have his dwelling house, and land surrounding it, and small legacies to Rev. Richard Mather and the wife of Gabriel Mead. A codicil makes his son James joint executor, to attend to property in New England. Later by word of mouth he gave his daughter Margaret Gibson L10. His inventory amounted to L413.0s.9d, to which L26 in land was to be added, and included plate L2.15s.d., land L70, debts owing to him L234.9s.9d.; and he owed L43.6s.0d.[2]

Event:

Type: Children Note:

1. Thomazine, bapt. May 26, 1605; buried April 6, 1606. 2. William, bapt. July 19, 1607; died Sept. 29, 1625. 3. Richard, bapt. Nov. 12, 1609, continued to reside in Lydd until his death March 6, 1656/7. He was licensed to marry (1) June 3, 1653, Susan Isham of London, who was buried Aug. 10, 1636; licensed to marry (2) April 18, 1637, Ellen Wallis of Ashford, who died June 17, 1656. His will provides for legacies amounting to L600 to his children, gives his mother Alice Bate in New England a yearly annuity of L12 and disposes of plate and jewels. 4. Thomazine, buried April 16, 1624. 5. Lydia, bapt. Oct. 22, 1615; married 1649 or earlier, Roger Williams of Dorchester, as his second wife. 6. Mary, bapt. Nov. 21, 1619; married about 1639, Hopestill Foster of Dorchester. 7. Margaret, bapt. Sept. 16, 1621; married Christopher Gibson. 8. John, bapt. May 4, 1623; buried Sept. 15, 1625. 9. James, bapt. Dec. 19, 1624. 10. Perhaps Johanna, wife of Gabriel Mead, to whom James left 20 shillings in his will.[2]

Religion

Religion: The names of such as since the constituting or gathering of the church at dorchester have been added to the church and joyned thereunto as members of the same body, by profession of faith and Repentance and taking hould of the Covent before the Congregacon; viz.

James Bate Alice Bate Lydia Bate Mary Bate Rachel Bigge Patience Foster Hopestill Foster Date: 23 AUG 1636 Place: First Church, Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA[5]

Death and Legacy

James died 22 November 1655 at Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts. Last Will & Testament

Will:

Date: 22 NOV 1655 Place: Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA Note: 'Following is the will of James Bates of Dorchester, Mass., immigrant, older brother of Clement Bates of Hinham, and ancester of a large branch of the Bates Family of Connecticut, where his son James lived at Haddam. He died 1655. The spelling of the original is followed, but punctuation is sometimes inserted for the sake of clearness.

'I James Bate Elder of Dorchester in New England being of a perfect memory and in a competent measure of health considering my years, blessed be God, the 22nd day of the ninth month called November Ano Dom 1655 doe willingly and with a free hart committ my soul to the merciful hands of God my savior and my body to earth, there to rest until the day of generall Resurrection, and my Estate I dispose of as followeth viz. 'I give unto my sonne Mr. Richard Bate of Lydd Towne in Kent in Old England all my Lands movable goods and debt yt I now have or hereafter may have or shall die seazed of in Old England or in New England, to be disposed of by him according to his discretion, yet desirous yt he would attend unto such directions thereabout as I shall send in writing, unlesss I shall see ground and reason afterwards to alter the said directions in any of the particulars thereof and not doubting but he will perform the trust committed to him for that end. I doe make him, my sonne whom I have always found faithfull, my sole Executor of this my last will and Testament, and all other former wills, gifts and bequests, I utterly revoke and make void forever by these presents. In witness whereof I have here sealed and delivered and published as also subscribed as well as he in want of his bodily sight could write in ye presence of Gabrell Mead and of Robt Howard, Not's Pub'cus.

James Bate 'At a meeting of the mages't the 14th January 1655 Gabriell Mead and Robert Howard deposed, saith yt they sawe James Bate sign and seal this paper as his last will and testament and yt to their best knowledge he was then o a sound memory. '(Note. The above date, January 14, 1655, was probably Old Style and would be 1656 New Style, as the year then began with March. Note also that November is called the ninth month, for the same reason. Thus this will, being signed November 22, 1655, was probated January 14, 1656, by our reckoning.) 'Addition to the within written will.' 'Whereas I James Bate the Elder in my within written will have made my sonne Mr. Richard Bate my sole executor, upon further thought my will and minde is yt my sonne James Bate shall be joyned Executor with him my said sonne Richard only for this purpose that he my said sonne James may demand, gather in, receive and recover all such debts as are owing unto me by any person or persons in New England, as also to sell such lands and goods as likewise I have in New England excepting what is mentioned in my directions to be given unto my Grandchild James Foster, provided he doth make a true inventory yrof and convey yt said Estate unto my said sonne Richard. In witness whereof I the said James Bate the elder have subscribed my name the 26th day of November Anno 1655. 'Signed, delivered and published as an addition to his within written will in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus. 'James Bate the Elder / his marke '(Note. He was apparently too blind to sign his name, as indicated also in his former signature.) 'At the same meeting of the Magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed this above written to be as an addition to the within written, signed by the said James Bate who then also was of a disposing mind, to his best knowledge. 'Roger Clap forty sixe yeares or thereabouts sworne saith that he being with Mr. James Bate to visite him in sickness he ye said Mr. Bate entreated him to take some witness with himself that it was his well yt his daughter Gibson should have ten pounds for her owne use and at her disposing and not at her husbands; the said Roger said to Mr. Bate, if you have any written will it must be aded thereto, he replyed with earnesteness yt he would have done. 'Edw. Clap, Roger Clap and Nicho. Clap have all three taken their oathes to the truth of the Testimony above written, the 17th day of 11th month, before me 27th January 1655. Jo. Endecott Govr. 'I James Bate testify that I have heard my father Bate say the Sabbath day before he died yt he would give unto his daughter Gibson tenn pounds to be at her disposing and not at her husbands, which ten pounds he said he would add unto his written will. 'James Bate came before me the 19th day of the 11th month called January 1655 and did solemnly take his oathe to the truth of the pr'misses. Jo Endecott Govr. 'Know all men by these presents That whereas I James Bate the elder have made a will sealed, subscribed and dated the 22nd of the 9th month 16555, wherein I make my sonne Mr. Richard Bate sole Executor, expressing in the said will further directions in writing to be given unto him as concerning my desired purpose of disposing of my Estate committed to his care and faithfulnesse as followeth, Vidz - my desire is first that he could give unto my sonne James Bate's three children, Samuel Bate, Alice Bate and Mercy Bate one hundred pounds apiece to be payed out of my lands and goods, when they shall accomplish their severall ages of one and twenty yeares; and further that my said James shall have the profit of their said portions until they shall accomplish their said ages, or and towards their bringing up in case he doth go with his family to live in England. Also if my said son James doe put in good security to pay the said ethree hundred pounds as aforesaid, such as he my said sonne Richard shall like of them, that he have it in his owne hands, otherwise the same to remain in ye hands of him my said sonne Rich'd Bate. 'Item, my desire is yt my house orchard and three acres of planting land adjoining of my said dwelling house in Dorchester, New England he would give unto James Foster my Grandchild and his heires forever, provided yt my deare wife Alice Bate may have her maintenance out of my said house and lands as also out of the rest of my estate as long as she shall live. 'Also I will that Mr. Mather Teacher of the Church of Dorchester have 20s and ye now wife of Gabriell Meade the same 20s. 'These directions bearing date with the said will as above said. James Bate ye Elder / his marke. 'Signed in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus 'At a meeting of the magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed saith that what is above written was exprest and by James Bate in his presence signed as the instrument which he mentions in his will and yt then also he was of a disposing mind to his best knowledge.'[6]

Sources

↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Anderson, Robert Charles, et al., James Bate Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B. Pages 199-201 (Online database accessed February 3, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Bates, Albert Carlos, Ancestral Line for Eight Gnerations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants. ( pp. 12-14) Hartford CT: [s.p.] 1943, HathiTrust.org accessed February 5, 2015. ↑ Source: #S168 Page: p.492 ↑ Source: #S172 Page: v.2,#2, April 1909; p.5. By Mrs. Katherine A. Bidwell ↑ Source: #S467 Page: p.2, 3, & 4 ↑ Source: #S172 Page: V.5 #2; April 1922; p.87-88.

See also:

Source: S168 Title: Foster Genealogy Abbreviation: Foster genealogy Author: Pierce, Frederick Clifton Publication: W.B. Conkey Co, Chicago, IL, 1899 Source: S172 Title: Bates Bulletin Abbreviation: Bates Bulletin Publication: Bates Association, 1907+ Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B317701B Source: S467Pope, Charles H., Records of the First Church at Dorchester in New England 1636-1734. (p.166) Boston, MA: George H. Ellis, 1891 Source: S76 Colket, Meredith B., Founders of Early American Families - Emigrants from Europe 1607-1657 (p.21) General Court of the Order of Founders and Patriots of America, Cleveland, OH, 1975 Cutter, William Richard, editor, New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial: A Record of the ..., Volume 1. Features the other Bate/Bates family, Clement of Hingham.

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Biography

Spelling of the Name

The baptism records in England spell the name, Bate, and Robert C. Anderson in his Great Migration series spells the name, Bate.[1] Some of the older secondary sources use the spelling, Bates, and some of the later generations appear to have adopted this spelling. Per Albert C. Bates, "The addition of the final "s" appears to be an American innovation, often making its first appearance with the second generation of the family born in this country, although the time of change is in nowise uniform."[2]

Origin

James was baptized on 2 December 1582 at Lydd, county Kent, England, the son of James Bate and Mary (Martine?) Bate.[1]

Marriage

James married at Saltwood, Kent, England, on 16 September 1603 (license issued 13 September), to Alice Glover.[1][3] Alice died on 14 August 1657 At Dorchester.[1]

Children

Children:[1]

Thomazine Bate (the 1st) bpt. Lydd 26 May 1605, bur Lydd 6 Apr 1606

William Bate bpt. Lydd 9 July 1607, bur Lydd 29 Sep 1625

Richard Bate bpt Lydd 12 Nov 1609; mar 1) Susan Isham, 2) Ellen Wallis (remained in England, d there in 1657)

Thomazine Bates (the 2nd) b by 1614, bur Lydd 16 Apr 1624

Lydia Bates bpt. at Lydd; 22 Oct 1615; mar by 1649, as his 2nd, to Roger Williams of Dorchester

Mary Bate bpt. 21 Nov 1619 at Lydd; mar Hopestill Foster

Margaret Bate bpt. 16 Sept 1621 at Lydd; mar Christopher Gibson

John Bates bpt 4 May 1623 at Lydd, d 1625

James Bate bpt. 19 Dec 1624 at Lydd; mar Hannah Withington

Albert Carlos Bates in Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, reports additional children, not included by Anderson in Great Migration 1634-1635, A-B.

Johanna Bates

Elizabeth Bates

Clements Bates

Immigration

On 17 April 1635, "James Bate aged 53" and his family was enrolled at London, as passengers aboard the Elizabeth.[1] James is listed as a husbandman. With him were his wife, Alice, and children, Lydia, aged 20 years, Mary, aged 17 years, Margaret, aged 12 years, and James, aged 9 years.[4] Four children had died at Lydd, and one son, Richard, remained in England.[5] James settled in Dorchester where he was made Freeman Dec. 7, 1636.

Positions and Property

'James, the above husbandman, came to Dorchester, MA., was made freeman, Dec. 7, 1636, and selectman next year.

'He was representative for Hingham in 1641, he was also an 'Elder' there.

'Of the children who came to this country with him, Lyddia married Roger Wiliams of Dorchester; Mary married a gentleman who rejoiced in the name of Hopestill Foster, and Margaret a man by the name of Christopher Gibson. His son James married Ann, daughter of the first Henry Withington, and went to Haddam, CT.

'He made his will Nov. 22, 1655, noticed his 'sonne Richard Bate of Lid Towne in Kent in Old England' by giving him all his lands, moveable goods and debts that he then had or should have in Old or New England, as his own, unless altered by the Testator, and made Richard sole executor. On the 26th of November, 1655, his codicil provided that his son James should be joined as executor with Richard only for the purpose of receiving such debts as were owed him in New England and to sell such lands and goods, excepting such as he had directed to be given to his grandchild James Foster, provided he made a true inventory and conveyed the estate to his son Richard.

'In Elder Bates' later directions he notices his former will and gives to the three children of his so James, viz. Samuel, Allice and Mary L100 each when 21 years old and to his son James to have the use of L300 for and towards bringing up of said children, provided he should go with his family to live in England and give security to pay the L300. His house, orchard and 3 acres of planting land adjoining the meadow back of the dwelling house in Dorchester, N.E., he gave his grandson James Foster, provided his wife Allice Bate had the support of the house, etc. He evidently had not entire confidence in his son-in-law Mr. Christopher Gibson, for after his death, one, Roger Clapp of Dorchester, aged about 46 years, testified that he visited Mr. James Bate in his last illness and he entreated him 'to take a witness with him, that it was his will that his daughter Gibson, should have 10 pounds for her own use and NOT her husband.'

'The son James may have followed his father's instructions and gone to England with his family and perhaps stayed long enough to get possession of the three hundred pounds, but he must have returned to New England in a very few years and gone to Haddam, Ct....'[6]

Event:

Type: Source-add

Note: 1. A Bates-Breed Acnestry; George E.Bates; Boston, MA; 1975.

Event:

Type: Biography

Note: 'James (son of James, baptised in Lydd Dec. 2, 1582. He was licensed Sept. 13, 1603, to marry Alice Glover of Saltwood, a parish not far from Lydd. She was born in 1583 and died Aug. 14, 1657. Their conformity to the Church of England having been certified and they having taken two oaths of allegiance and supremacy, James, noted as a husbandman, his wife and their children, except Richard, the eldest son, embarked on the 'Elizabeth' from the port of London April 17, 1635, for New England. Arriving in America they settled in Dorchester, Mass. On the same ship came Clement, the brother of James, with his family; they settling at Hingham, Mass. James was granted land in Dorchester Feb. 18, 1635/6, and at sundry later times.

In December of the same year he was made a freeman of the Massachusetts Colony. Some time between August 1636, when the Congregational Church was organized, and November 1639, both he and his wife Alice were admitted to membership; later he was a ruling elder of the church. In 1640 he was a deputy to the General Court. He held several town offices and was appointed on a number of committees of the town. James made his will Nov. 22, 1655, and died in Dorchester before Jan. 8, 1655/6.

He made his son Richard of Lydd executor of his estate in both Old and New England, to divide the estate according to his discretion, except that his wife is to have her maintenance from it, that Samuel, Alice and Mary, children of his son James, each to have L100. His grandson James Foster to have his dwelling house, and land surrounding it, and small legacies to Rev. Richard Mather and the wife of Gabriel Mead. A codicil makes his son James joint executor, to attend to property in New England. Later by word of mouth he gave his daughter Margaret Gibson L10. His inventory amounted to L413.0s.9d, to which L26 in land was to be added, and included plate L2.15s.d., land L70, debts owing to him L234.9s.9d.; and he owed L43.6s.0d.[3]

Religion

On 23 Aug 1636, First Church, Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA"

The names of such as since the constituting or gathering of the church at dorchester have been added to the church and joyned thereunto as members of the same body, by profession of faith and Repentance and taking hould of the Covent before the Congregacon; viz.

James Bate

Alice Bate

Lydia Bate

Mary Bate

Rachel Bigge

Patience Foster

Hopestill Foster[7]

Death and Legacy

Last Will & Testament

James' will was written on 22 Nov 1655 at Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA:

I James Bate Elder of Dorchester in New England being of a perfect memory and in a competent measure of health considering my years, blessed be God, the 22nd day of the ninth month called November Ano Dom 1655 doe willingly and with a free hart committ my soul to the merciful hands of God my savior and my body to earth, there to rest until the day of generall Resurrection, and my Estate I dispose of as followeth viz. 'I give unto my sonne Mr. Richard Bate of Lydd Towne in Kent in Old England all my Lands movable goods and debt yt I now have or hereafter may have or shall die seazed of in Old England or in New England, to be disposed of by him according to his discretion, yet desirous yt he would attend unto such directions thereabout as I shall send in writing, unlesss I shall see ground and reason afterwards to alter the said directions in any of the particulars thereof and not doubting but he will perform the trust committed to him for that end. I doe make him, my sonne whom I have always found faithfull, my sole Executor of this my last will and Testament, and all other former wills, gifts and bequests, I utterly revoke and make void forever by these presents. In witness whereof I have here sealed and delivered and published as also subscribed as well as he in want of his bodily sight could write in ye presence of Gabrell Mead and of Robt Howard, Not's Pub'cus.

James Bate 'At a meeting of the mages't the 14th January 1655 Gabriell Mead and Robert Howard deposed, saith yt they sawe James Bate sign and seal this paper as his last will and testament and yt to their best knowledge he was then o a sound memory. [8]

Addition to the within written will.:

Whereas I James Bate the Elder in my within written will have made my sonne Mr. Richard Bate my sole executor, upon further thought my will and minde is yt my sonne James Bate shall be joyned Executor with him my said sonne Richard only for this purpose that he my said sonne James may demand, gather in, receive and recover all such debts as are owing unto me by any person or persons in New England, as also to sell such lands and goods as likewise I have in New England excepting what is mentioned in my directions to be given unto my Grandchild James Foster, provided he doth make a true inventory yrof and convey yt said Estate unto my said sonne Richard. In witness whereof I the said James Bate the elder have subscribed my name the 26th day of November Anno 1655. 'Signed, delivered and published as an addition to his within written will in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus. 'James Bate the Elder / his marke[9]

(Note. He was apparently too blind to sign his name, as indicated also in his former signature.) 'At the same meeting of the Magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed this above written to be as an addition to the within written, signed by the said James Bate who then also was of a disposing mind, to his best knowledge. 'Roger Clap forty sixe yeares or thereabouts sworne saith that he being with Mr. James Bate to visite him in sickness he ye said Mr. Bate entreated him to take some witness with himself that it was his well yt his daughter Gibson should have ten pounds for her owne use and at her disposing and not at her husbands; the said Roger said to Mr. Bate, if you have any written will it must be aded thereto, he replyed with earnesteness yt he would have done. 'Edw. Clap, Roger Clap and Nicho. Clap have all three taken their oathes to the truth of the Testimony above written, the 17th day of 11th month, before me 27th January 1655. Jo. Endecott Govr.

I James Bate testify that I have heard my father Bate say the Sabbath day before he died yt he would give unto his daughter Gibson tenn pounds to be at her disposing and not at her husbands, which ten pounds he said he would add unto his written will. 'James Bate came before me the 19th day of the 11th month called January 1655 and did solemnly take his oathe to the truth of the pr'misses. Jo Endecott Govr.

Know all men by these presents That whereas I James Bate the elder have made a will sealed, subscribed and dated the 22nd of the 9th month 1655, wherein I make my sonne Mr. Richard Bate sole Executor, expressing in the said will further directions in writing to be given unto him as concerning my desired purpose of disposing of my Estate committed to his care and faithfulnesse as followeth, Vidz - my desire is first that he could give unto my sonne James Bate's three children, Samuel Bate, Alice Bate and Mercy Bate one hundred pounds apiece to be payed out of my lands and goods, when they shall accomplish their severall ages of one and twenty yeares; and further that my said James shall have the profit of their said portions until they shall accomplish their said ages, or and towards their bringing up in case he doth go with his family to live in England. Also if my said son James doe put in good security to pay the said ethree hundred pounds as aforesaid, such as he my said sonne Richard shall like of them, that he have it in his owne hands, otherwise the same to remain in ye hands of him my said sonne Rich'd Bate. 'Item, my desire is yt my house orchard and three acres of planting land adjoining of my said dwelling house in Dorchester, New England he would give unto James Foster my Grandchild and his heires forever, provided yt my deare wife Alice Bate may have her maintenance out of my said house and lands as also out of the rest of my estate as long as she shall live. 'Also I will that Mr. Mather Teacher of the Church of Dorchester have 20s and ye now wife of Gabriell Meade the same 20s. 'These directions bearing date with the said will as above said. James Bate ye Elder / his marke. 'Signed in the presence of Robert Howard Not's Pub'cus 'At a meeting of the magister 14 January 1655 Robert Howard deposed saith that what is above written was exprest and by James Bate in his presence signed as the instrument which he mentions in his will and yt then also he was of a disposing mind to his best knowledge.'[9]

Sources

↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Anderson, Robert Charles, (1995) "James Bate," featured name. Great Migration 1634-1635, Vol I, A-B. AmericanAncestors.org NEHGS (Vol A-B, Pages 199-201)

↑ Bates, Albert Carlos, (1943) Ancestral line for eight generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820, with some records of his descendants. Hartford: HathiTrust.org (Page 12) Caution: contains errors.

↑ 3.0 3.1 Bates, Albert Carlos, (1943) Ancestral Line for Eight Gnerations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1720-1820, with some records of his descendants. Hartford CT: [s.p.], HathiTrust.org ( pp. 12-14) Caution: contains errors.

↑ Hotten, John Camden, (1874) The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants ... London: Hotten, Archive.org (Page 68).

↑ Pierce, Frederick Clifton, (1899) Foster Genealogy. Chicago: W.B. Conkey Co, Archive.org (Page 492).

↑ Source: #S172 Page: v.2,#2, April 1909; p.5. By Mrs. Katherine A. Bidwell

↑ Pope, Charles H., (1891) Records of the First Church at Dorchester in New England 1636-1734. (p.166) Boston, MA: George H. Ellis, (Pages 2-4, 166).

↑ Note. The above date, January 14, 1655, was probably Old Style and would be 1656 New Style, as the year then began with March. Note also that November is called the ninth month, for the same reason. Thus this will, being signed November 22, 1655, was probated January 14, 1656, by our reckoning.

↑ 9.0 9.1 Bates Association, (April 1922) Bates Bulletin, (V.5 #2; p.87-88).

See also:

Source: S172 Title: Bates Bulletin Abbreviation: Bates Bulletin Publication: Bates Association, 1907+ Repository: #R18 Call Number: 929.2 B317701B

Source: S76 Colket, Meredith B., Founders of Early American Families - Emigrants from Europe 1607-1657 (p.21) General Court of the Order of Founders and Patriots of America, Cleveland, OH, 1975

Cutter, William Richard, editor, New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial: A Record of the ..., Volume 1. Features the other Bate/Bates family, Clement of Hingham.

References:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LZPX-7J7/james-bate-1582-1655

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-732

https://www.geni.com/people/James-Bates-of-Dorchester/6000000002531901400

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowling&p=james&n=bates&oc=3

http://www.newmediamarkets.com/jamesharper/descendants/D0030/I2495.html

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:James_Bate_%284%29

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Grandy's 9x Great-Grandfather:

My 11x Great-Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 12x Great-Grandfather:

James Bates of Lydd (1555 - 1614)

James Bate, Sr.

Also known as: "James Bates", "John Bates"

Birthdate: bet. 1555-1562

Birthplace: All Hallows Parish, Lydd, Kent, England

Denomination: (probably) Anglican / Puritan

Death: March 2, 1614 in All Hallows Parish, Lydd, Kent, England

Burial: Lydd, Kent, England

Parents:

John Bates II

1521-1579

Mildred Ward

1526-1577

Family

Spouse:

Mary Martin

1563-1609

Mary Bates

Also Known As: "Mary Martine"

Birthdate: April 10, 1563

Birthplace: Lydd, Kent, England

Denomination: (probably) Anglican / Puritan

Date of Marriage: June 6, 1580

Place of Marriage: Lydd, Kent, England

Death: July 22, 1609 in Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, England

Immediate Family:

Daughter of James Martin and Joan Bigge

Children:

1. Robert Bates, bapt. March 5, 1580, died between Aug. 4, and Dec. 6, 1610

2. James Bates 1582-1655 Married 13 September 1603, Lydd, Kent, England, to Alice Glover 1583-1657

3. Anna Bates, bapt. Aug. 2, 1584; buried July 21, 1586.

4. Anna, bapt. Aug. 21, 1586; buried Nov. 7, 1587.

5. John, bapt. Nov. 17, 1588; buried March 6, 1606.

6. Thomas Bates, bapt. July 19, 1590.

7. Edward Bates, born Oct. 8, 1592; buried Oct. 3, 1616.

8. Clement Bates, bapt. Jan. 22, 1595; died Sept. 17, 1671.

9. Joseph Bates, bapt. February 3, 1598.

10. Mary Bates, bapt. Aug. 24, 1600.

11. Isaac Bates, bapt. Feb. 21, 1601/02.

12. Rachel Bates, bapt. Feb. 5, 1604.

13. Martha Bates, bapt. Dec. 28, 1605; buried Jan. 15, 1606.

About James Bates of Lydd

Biography

James Bates of Lydd, yeoman, born 2 Dec 1562 in Lydd, Kent, England, was the son of John Bates and Mildred Ward.[1][2]

Marriage

He married Mary (Martine) Bates (1563-abt.1620) June 5, 1580 at Lydd. [1][2]

Issue:

1. Robert Bates, bapt. March 5, 1580, died between Aug. 4, and Dec. 6, 1610

2. James Bates, bapt. Dec. 2, 1582.

3. Anna Bates, bapt. Aug. 2, 1584; buried July 21, 1586.

4. Anna, bapt. Aug. 21, 1586; buried Nov. 7, 1587.

5. John, bapt. Nov. 17, 1588; buried March 6, 1606.

6. Thomas Bates, bapt. July 19, 1590.

7. Edward Bates, born Oct. 8, 1592; buried Oct. 3, 1616.

8. Clement Bates, bapt. Jan. 22, 1595; died Sept. 17, 1671.

9. Joseph Bates, bapt. February 3, 1598.

10. Mary Bates, bapt. Aug. 24, 1600.

11. Isaac Bates, bapt. Feb. 21, 1601/02.

12. Rachel Bates, bapt. Feb. 5, 1604.

13. Martha Bates, bapt. Dec. 28, 1605; buried Jan. 15, 1606.

Death

He died and was buried March 2, 1613/14 at the age of 51 in Lydd, Kent, England.[2] His will was dated Feb. 27, and proved March 31, 1613/14.[1]

"His will dated Feb. 27, and proved March 31, 1613/14, gives his wife the use of certain lands; gives Robert, son of his deceased son, Robert, L20; gives his two daughters each L20 and certain lands; and small bequests to the children of his son James. Then, after giving certain lands to his son James, he divides his remaining lands equally between his four other sons, each son's portion apparently being valued at L100. He names his wife Mary executrix and his cousins Clement Bate and Thomas Bate, jurats, of Lydd (sons of his uncle Thomas Bate), overseers of his will."

The will of James Bate, the elder, yeoman, proved 31 March, 1614, to Robert, son of son Robert, deceased, when 21; Judith, daughter of son Robert, not 16; daughters Mary and Rachel, not 21; sons James, Thomas, Edward, Clement and Isaac; William and Richard, sons of son James; Thomasine, daughter of son James. Wife Mary, executrix. Cousins Clement, and Thomas Bate, jurat, overseers.

Sources

↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 Bates, Albert Carlos, b. 1865. Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820: With Some Records of His Descendants. Hartford, 1943. pg 11

↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 American historical society (Incorporated), 1916. Encyclopedia of Massachusetts, biographical--genealogical. Vol. 6. pg 314

Worcester County, Massachusetts Memoirs, Volume I-II Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002.Original data - Ellery Bicknell Crane, ed. Historic Homes and Institutions and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worcester County Massachusetts with a History of Worcester Society Ancestry.com.

Lydd Parish Register printed in "The Bates Bulletin" Series III Vol 1, Number 1, October, 1917.

Lydd Parish Register 1557-1632 printed in "The Bates Bulletin" Series III Vol 1, Number 1, October, 1917. "Ancestry of James and Clement Bates" p. 7.

James and Mary (Martine) Bate had 13 children. This profile originally had 21, so be careful on future links. Bapt dates given. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89062854377&view=1up&seq=16 Robert 3/5/1580 James 12/2/1582 (went to Dorchester in Mass and brother to Clement Bate of Hingham, MA} Anna 8/2/1584 Died 2 yrs Anna 8/21/1586 Died 1 yr John 11/17/1588 Thomas 7/19/1590 Edward 10/8/1592 Clement 1/22/1595 went to Hingham MA Joseph 2/3/1598 Mary 8/24/1600 Isaac 2/21/1602 Rachel 2/5/1604 married William Batchelder and went to Charlestown MA Martha 12/28/1605 died 1 mo

Biography

John or James Bates was born on December 2, 1562 in Lydd, Kent, England and was baptized on December 2, 1562 in Lydd, Kent, England, United Kingdom. His parents were John Bates, of Kent and Mildred (Ward) Bates. He was a Son of John Bates and Mildred Ward.

John or James married Mary K (Martine) Bates on June 6, 1580 in Lydd, Kent, , England. Together they had the following children: Catherine Bates; Edmund Bates; Ellen Bates; James Bates, Jr.; Anna Bates; Jane Bates; John Isaac Bates; Thomas Bates; Clement Bates; Joseph Bates; Mary Bates; Isaac Bates; Joanna (Bates) Eddy; Rachel (Bates) Batchelder; William Bates; Martha Bates; Edward Bates; George Bates.

He died on March 2, 1614 in Lydd, Kent, England and was buried on March 2, 1614 in All Saints Churchyard, Lydd, Shepway, District Kent, England.

Unclear if his first name is John or James. I've seen John James Bates, James John Bates, John Bates, James Bates. _________________ New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial: A Record of the ..., Volume 2

edited by William Richard Cutter p.1081

States that Clement is son of James Bates, who is son of John

___________________ Birth: 1562 Lydd Shepway District Kent, England Death: Mar. 2, 1614 Lydd Shepway District Kent, England

Baptized on 2 December 1562. Son of John Bate[s] and Mildred (Ward) Bates.

Brother of Mary (Bate[s]) Tookey, Thomas Bate[s], and Andrew Bate[s].

Husband of Mary (Martine) Bate[s].

Father of Robert (bapt. 5 March 1580, d. bet. 4 Aug and 6 Dec 1610), James Jr. (bapt. 2 Dec 1582), Anna (bapt. 2 Aug 1584, bur. 21 July 1586), Anna (bapt. 21 Aug 1586, bur. 7 Nov 1587), John (bapt. 17 Nov 1599, bur. 6 March 1606), Thomas(bapt. 19 July 1590), Edward (b. 8 Oct 1592, bur. 3 Oct 1616), Clement (bapt. 22 Jan 1595, d. 17 Sept 1671), Joseph (bapt. 3 Feb 1598), Mary (bapt. 24 Aug 1600), Isaac (bapt. 21 Feb 1601/02), Rachel (bapt. 5 Feb 1604), and Martha Bate[s] (bapt. 28 Dec 1605, bur. 15 Jan 1606).

Grandfather and great-grandfather.

Requiescat in pace.

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Parents: John Bate (____ - 1580) Mildred Ward Bate (____ - 1577) Children: James Bates (1582 - ____)* Anna Bates (1584 - 1586)* Anna Bates (1586 - 1587)* John Bates (1588 - 1606)* Clement Bates (1595 - 1671)* Martha Bates (1605 - 1606)* Siblings: Thomas Bate (____ - 1606)* James Bate (1562 - 1614) Andrew Bate (1563 - 1611)*

Calculated relationship

Note: Bates, Albert Carlos. "Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820, with Some Records of His Descendants." Hartford, CT: Bates, 1943.

Burial: All Saints Churchyard Lydd Shepway District Kent, England Plot: Gravestone missing.

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Record added: Feb 22, 2014 Find A Grave Memorial# 125487252 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=125487252

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Biography==geni.com/profile-46003767 John Bates, of Kent] and Mildred (Ward) Bates. He was a Son of John Bates and Mildred Ward. i.com/profile-64106803 Mary K (Martine) Bates] on June 6, 1580 in Lydd, Kent, , England. Together they had the following children:ww.geni.com/profile-64105032 Edmund Bates];Anna Bates];i.com/profile-40200173 Clement Bates];s];://www.geni.com/profile-44629905 Martha Bates];, Kent, England and was buried on March 2, 1614 in All Saints Churchyard, Lydd, Shepway, District Kent, England. John Bates, John Bates, James Bates. is son of James Bates, who is son of Johnember 1562. Son of John Bate[s] and Mildred (Ward) Bates.rch 1580, d. bet. 4 Aug and 6 Dec 1610), James Jr. (bapt. 2 Dec 1582), Anna (bapt. 2 Aug 1584, bur. 21 July 1586), Anna (bapt. 21 Aug 1586, bur. 7 Nov 1587), John (bapt. 17 Nov 1599, bur. 6 March 1606), Thomas(bapt. 19 July 1590), Edward (b. 8 Oct 1592, bur. 3 Oct 1616), Clement (bapt. 22 Jan 1595, d. 17 Sept 1671), Joseph (bapt. 3 Feb 1598), Mary (bapt. 24 Aug 1600), Isaac (bapt. 21 Feb 1601/02), Rachel (bapt. 5 Feb 1604), and Martha Bate[s] (bapt. 28 Dec 1605, bur. 15 Jan 1606).580)1)*Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820, with Some Records of His Descendants." Hartford, CT: Bates, 1943.nt, England487252

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Age: 58

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Age: 7

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James Bate, Sr Born about 1562. Son of John Bate and Mildred (Ward) Bate. Husband of Mary (Martine) Bate. His will was dated 27 February 1613/4, remains laid to rest on 2 March 1613/4, and probate occurred on 31 March 1613/4.

Birth 2 Dec 1562 - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Death 1614 (aged 51–52) - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Burial All Saints Churchyard - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Memorial ID - 156264324 · View Source

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@R1200268534@ Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.

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Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=80661488&pid=89

References:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/9JCZ-N1V/james-bates-1555-1614

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bate-407

https://www.geni.com/people/John-Bates/6000000001113891383

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowling&p=james&n=bates

http://www.newmediamarkets.com/jamesharper/descendants/D0037/I2555.html

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:James_Bate_%283%29

http://www.wellswooster.com/sambates.htm

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My 12x Great-Grandfather:

Laila Laemmel-Gordon's 13x Great-Grandfather:

Parents:

Andrew Bates

1495-1532

Margaret Andrews

1494-1533

Family

Spouse:

Mildred Ward

1526-1577

Mildred Bates

Birthdate: ca. 1526

Birthplace: Lydd, Kent, England

Denomination: (probably) Roman Catholic / Anglican / Puritan

Date of Marriage: October 18, 1546

Place of Marriage: Lydd, Kent, England

Death: January 2, 1577 in Lydd, Kent, England

Burial: Lydd, Kent, England

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Francis Ward and Susannah Warde

Children:

1. Mary (Bate) Tookey (bef.1550-)

2. Thomas Bate (abt.1560-abt.1606)

3. James Bates of Lydd (1562-1614)

4. Andrew Bate (1562-bef.1611)

About John Bates, of Kent

Birth: Lydd Shepway District Kent, England Death: Mar. 1, 1580 Lydd Shepway District Kent, England

Born before 1513. Son of Andrew Bate[s].

Brother of Joan (Bate[s]) Robyns, Simon Bate[s], William Bate[s], Katherine Bate[s], and Thomas Bate[s].

Husband of, first, Mildred Ward, and second Mary Bennett.

He and Mildred Ward married on 28 Oct 1546. Predeceased by Mildred, he married Mary Bennett on 15 June 1579.

Through his first marriage, he was the father of Mary (Bate[s]) Tookey, James Bate[s] Sr., Thomas Bate[s], and Andrew Bate[s].

Grandfather and great-grandfather.

Requiescat in pace.

Family links:

Parents: Andrew Bate Spouse: Mildred Ward Bate (____ - 1577) Children: Thomas Bate (____ - 1606)* James Bate (1562 - 1614)* Andrew Bate (1563 - 1611)* Sibling: Simon Bate (____ - 1545)* John Bate (____ - 1580)

Calculated relationship

Note: Bates, Albert Carlos. "Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820, with Some Records of His Descendants." Hartford, CT: Bates, 1943.

Burial: All Saints Churchyard Lydd Shepway District Kent, England Plot: Gravestone missing.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=125487189

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John Bate AKA Bates

From Albert Carlos Bates, Ancestral line for eight generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820, with some records of his descendants (1943),:

John, of Lydd, jurat, married (1) Oct. 28, 1546, Mildred Ward, who was buried June 2, 1577; married (2) June 15, 1579, Mary Bennett.[1] The same source reports John left a will dated 1 March 1579/80, described further below:

His will dated March 1, 1578/80, and proved May 13, 1580, gives to the poor men's box, and to the poor to be distributed on the day of his burial, gives to his three sons lands, tenements, cattle and goods, mentions his leased lands which he has let out, gives to his wife L20 money and household furnishings which he names and her rings and jewels. Mention is made of the loft over the shop, of the hall and the parlor, and of two tables, two bedsteds, a chair, a chest, a cupboard, a stupponet (sauce pan), two kettles, a small brass pan, two platters, two pewter dishes and two fruit dishes. His three sons are named as executors and John Hebblethwaite and William Crouche, jurat, overseers of the will. His estate inventoried L71.12s.4d.[1] Note: The profile reports John was born 1527, but the historical rationale for this finding is not disclosed, nor has it been discovered. He was probably born at Lydd.

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-3600

John Bate Born between 1521 and 1528. Son of Andrew Bate. Husband of 1) Mildred (Ward) Bate (who predeceased him) and 2) Mary (Bennett) Bate.

Birth 1521 - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Death 1 Mar 1580 (aged 58–59) - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Burial All Saints Churchyard - Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England

Memorial ID - 156264342 · View Source

Biography

John Bates was the son of Andrew Bate.[1][2][3][4]

Marriage

He married, as his first wife, Mildred Ward (1526-1577) on Oct. 28, 1546.[5][4][3] She was buried June 2, 1577. He married, second, June 15, 1579, Mary Bennett.[3]

Issue:

Mary (Bate) Tookey (bef.1550-)

James Bate Sr (1562-1614)

Thomas Bate (abt.1560-abt.1606)

Andrew Bate (1562-bef.1611)

Death

He died in the year 1580.[2] His will dated 1 March 1579/80, proved May 13, 1580, gives to the poor men's box, and to the poor to be distributed on the day of his burial, gives to his three sons lands, tenements, cattle and goods, mentions his leased lands which he has let out, gives to his wife £20 money and household furnishings which he names and her rings and jewels. Mention is made of the loft over the shop, of the hall and the parlor, and of two tables, two bedsteds, a chair, a chest, a cupboard, a stupponet (sauce pan), two kettles, a small brass pan, two platters, two pewter dishes and two fruit dishes. His three sons are named as executors and John Hebblethwaite and William Crouche, jurat, overseers of the will. His estate inventoried £71.12s.4d.[1]

Sources

↑ 1.0 1.1 Bates, Albert Carlos, b. 1865. Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820: With Some Records of His Descendants. Hartford, 1943. pg 10

↑ 2.0 2.1 American historical society (Incorporated), 1916. Encyclopedia of Massachusetts, biographical--genealogical. Vol. 6. pg 314

↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Waters, Henry F. (Henry Fitz-Gilbert), 1833-1913; New England Historic Genealogical Society. The New England historical and genealogical register. Number 51. Genealogical Gleanings in England. 1897. pgs 268-272

↑ 4.0 4.1 Bates, Thomas. Bates: An Ancient Family Name. AuthorHouse. 2015. Google Books

↑ Alfred C. Bates [and H. G. Somerby], “Lydd Parish Register.” The Bates Association. The Bates Bulletin. Series 3. Volume 1 (1917) pgs 6,7

Hamilton Andrews Hill, “Memoir of Isaac Chapman Bates,” _New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 31 (1877): 141-145.

Samuel Cutler, “Necrology of the New-England Historic, Genealogical Society,” _New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 33 (1879):256, for entry “Isaac Chapman Bates, died Saratoga Springs, N. Y., Sept. 21, 1875, aged 57.”

"Abstract of Wills of the Bate Family of Lydd," The Bates Association. The Bates Bulletin, Series 2, Volume IV, No. 2 (April 1916). [1]

See also:

Mrs. E. B. Grosvenor, “One Line of Bates Men,” [2][3][Hathi Trust. [4] Note: This author adds two generations atop the John Bate who had will dated and proved in 1522, so that the genealogy begins with a John (1) Bates, saying: “October 25 1415, was 'legendary soldier' at the battle of Agincourt. In Shakespeare’s _Henry V_, Act IV, Scene 1, John Bates says, ‘I do not desire that he (the king) should answer for me, yet I am determined to fight lustily for him.’ " use with caution

References:

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LZFB-FDW/john-bates-ii-1521-1579

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-3600

https://www.geni.com/people/John-Bates-of-Kent/6000000002889295727

http://www.newmediamarkets.com/jamesharper/descendants/D0065/I2586.html

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See also:

Family Tree of Mabel Bates