John 10:30-33
Jesus Says He and His Father are One and is Accused of Blasphemy
30 "I and the Father are one." 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
John 16:33
Your Will Have Troubles in This World
33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
John 8:46
Jesus Says He Did Not Sin
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?
2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV)
Jesus Did Not Sin
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
1 Peter 2:22
Jesus Committed No Sin
22 “He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in his mouth.”
Job 1:6-12
Job Was Blameless and Upright
6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
12 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”
Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
Job 42:7-9
7 After the Lord had said these things to Job, he said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has. 8 So now take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. You have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has.” 9 So Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite did what the Lord told them; and the Lord accepted Job’s prayer.
How each of us look and pain and suffering is different...And how and what believers believe about pain and suffering and troubles, might be seen differently if one does not believe...Some might believe that pain and suffering are sinful, others may not...
I think about Job and how he suffered and how God allowed him to suffer, yet God tells us that Job was right in the end, and that his friends arguments that his sins caused his situation were wrong...At the end of the Book of Job, God after God had said these things that He wanted to say to Job, He said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “I AM angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about Me, as my servant Job has."...
Jesus said that He and the Father are One...He also tells us that in this world we will have trials, tribulations, and troubles...So we will have pain and suffering in this world...And I do not believe that Jesus never said that He would free us from our pains and sufferings, in the context of pain and suffering...And when Jesus said we will have troubles in this world, I do not think He was telling His Disciples these things about this troubled world and that they too would be the only ones to have troubles in this world...I believe that He was not excluding Himself, He too was human...All humans have pain and suffering...And He would also suffer on the cross...
But if Jesus and God are one, then Jesus does not sin and did not sin on earth...For God made Jesus to have no sin...And since He does not sin, then we can believe that suffering and pain are not sinful...I might say that and believe that because Jesus died on the cross suffering and in pain and His Father allowed it...So, I believe that since Jesus did not and does not sin and since He suffered with great pain on the cross, then suffering and pain are not sins...These were tribulations that Jesus went through for us and died on the cross for our sins...However, since Jesus was in great pain and suffering on the cross before He died, somehow there is much in suffering and pain we might and must learn...Sins caused His death, but they were ours sins...My sins put Him on the cross to suffer and painfully die...It was not His sins, because He is One who does not sin, and that we might be made righteous before God because of His death on the cross for us....
One might want to debate that Jesus did not sin and it was our sins that caused His pain and suffering, but nonetheless it was Him doing the actual act of feeling the pain and suffering on the cross...And although Job suffered with pain that God had allowed, his situation was not one to be caused by something he did on this occasion...And as Peter says about Jesus, “He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.”...And this was being sin-free was for Jesus' lifetime for God made Him to be sin free and to know no sin...And while Jesus was on earth He asked the Pharisees if any of them could prove me guilty of sin?...
Jesus was sinless and free of sin, yet was allowed to suffer and to die...