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The TRUTHFUL God Versus the LYING God!
***What Does John 8:44 TRULY mean?
Here is John 8:44 from the KJV. “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
What if the Trinitarian UNDERSTANDING of John 1:1 is WRONG?
What if the Bible itself is actually teaching that a MAN became a God to replace the fallen god of this present world?
If so, then ALL Trinitarian Christians are teaching ANOTHER Jesus that the Apostles of Jesus did not teach.
And thus, God cannot use them as His TRUTHFUL WITNESSES to JUDGE the fallen angels or the fallen gods.
Here is a quote from another website explaining what the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD was all about.
“The Council of Chalcedon was called in 451 CE by the Roman Emperor Marcian (r. 450-457) to settle debates regarding the nature (hypostases, "reality") of Christ that had begun at two earlier meetings in Ephesus (431 CE and 439 CE).
The question was whether Christ was human or divine, a man who became God (through the resurrection and ascension) or God who became a man (through the incarnation, "taking on flesh"), and how his humanity and divinity affected his essence and being, if at all.”
In other words, ALL Christians at that time in history agreed that Jesus was DEITY or had divine NATURE.
But the question or DEBATE was HOW was Jesus Deity? When was Jesus Deity?
And did the Son of man, Jesus, become deity after the cross and resurrection?
Or did a pre-existing God become a man who remained fully God during the days of his flesh having BOTH natures at the SAME time, one Divine and one human, DURING the days of his FLESH?
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Eternal Life is Knowing the Only TRUTHFUL God os the Father!
In part 1 of this two part study in God’s word, I covered three main verses used by Trinitarian Christians to try to prove that the Son of God always existed at the right0hand of God the Father as the second person of a Godhead Trintut God made up of three separate persons.
Those three verses were John 3:31, John 8:14, and John 8:23.
And I conclude in part one of this study that none of those three verses prove that Jesus pre-existed in the eternity past.
We learned in part one that the “beginning” in John 1:1 was not the original beginning in the eternity past.
And thus, God’s plan of salvation was not conceived in the mind of God until AFTER the rebellious angels waged a war against the other side of heaven, according to Deuteronomy 4:32.
So then, the TRUE sound Biblical meaning of John 8:23 where Jesus says, “you are from BENEATH and I am from ABOVE” is that these UNBELIEVING Jews were being deceived by the god of this present world from BENEATH, and that Jesus was following the TRUE teaching of his God and Father from ABOVE.
You can read John 8:33-40 on your own now or later.
Basically, those verses are saying that the unsaved are the children of Satan, and they will MIMIC what their father, the Devil does, to be made in the his IMAGE.
Please skip on down to verse 44, which is still the CONTEXT of verse 23 where Jesus says PLAINLY to these same UNBELIEVING Jews that they are of THEIR father the DEVIL who we KNOW is from BENEATH.
Please read John 8:41-45.
“You do the DEEDS of YOUR father. Then they said to him, We are not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Even these unbelieving Jews say that the one true God is their Father.
And they do understand that the Scripture foretell of a coming Prophet who would be anointed by God.
But most of the Jews rejected Jesus as being their Messiah, because he did not fit their understanding of the Messiah.
And some Trinitarian Christian reject the Biblical Unitarian understanding of Jesus BECOMING a Deity under his God and Father after the cross and resurrection, because it does not fit their VIEW of Jesus being Almighty God Himself in the flesh.
John 8:42. “Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Or more correctly understood, Jesus is saying BECAUSE I came OUT of the God as the fulfillment of the prophecies in the Scriptures.
And after my God anointed me and called me to walk in righteousness, He has sent me to tell my brethren that I came forth and I am arriving from God.
When you look up the meanings of the Greek words, there are a lot of ways that this verse can be translated.
Again, to me, this verse speaks of God’s spoken word of prophecy that came forth, out from God, arriving or being fulfilled.
The Greek word translated here as “SENT” means SENDS or is sending in the present tense, as in, God COMMISSIONED or ANOINTED the Son of MAN to speak in Yahweh’s name on behalf of God the word that God Himself gave to Jesus to speak.
John 8:43. “Why do you NOT understand my speech? Even because you cannot hear my words.”
In other words, Jesus is saying that his WORDS that he heard from God is the TRUE BREAD or TRUE TEACHING of God that came down from heaven by God speaking to His Prophet, Jesus.
The Jews could not understand what Jesus was saying because they were not truly hearing or LISTENING to what Jesus was actually saying.
Jesus then perceives that their minds are being blinded by God’s enemy, Satan, the Devil.
John 8:44. “You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode NOT in the truth because there is NO truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it.
So, Jesus boldly tells them that they are not listening to Almighty God.
Jesus said to the unbelieving, YOU are from BENEATH listening to the LIES of the enemy of the TRUE God.
KNOW you NOT that whom you SERVE HIS servants you ARE?
John 8:45. “And because I tell you the TRUTH, you believe me NOT.”
Verse 45 teaches us that BECAUSE one is told a lie first and they wrongly believe a LIE first by being told that it is the truth, then it is hard for them to see the TRUTH after sincerely believing a false teaching.
The Jews who did NOT believe, are the ones that Jesus is speaking of being from below, believing earthly things.
So again, Jesus is speaking to THOSE Jews, who did NOT BELIEVE, telling THEM that THEY are from BENEATH by believing and following the LIES of their father the DEVIL.
So then, the lesson that we all can learn from these words of Jesus, speaking for Yahweh as the Prophet of God, is to remember to try the spirits to see whether are not they are of God or if a teaching is of Satan.
Therefore, if one chooses to dogmatically demand that Jesus must, without fail, had to have pre-existed as a SEPARATE divine eternal Spirit being, who was ALWAYS WITH the God at His side in the eternity past, then they must also believe that the Word made flesh left behind his immortality and all of his power as the so-called God the Son.
And if one chooses to believe that God sent down His always existing Son from out of heaven to BECOME flesh, then they also need to know that their INTERPRETATION directly contradicts 1 Timothy 6:13-16.
For you see, that passage of Scripture clearly teaches us that there was only ONE, the unseen one that cannot be seen, He ALONE is the only one who has always had IMMORTALITY in Himself.
Jesus was GIVEN eternal life from his God to be having life in himself after the cross, according to John 5:26,27.
1 Timothy 6:13-16.
“I give you CHARGE in the sight of God, who quickens all things, (Or who gives life to all things, or I give you CHARGE before Yahweh the one true and only Almighty God who ALONE and BY HIMSELF created all things) AND before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
1 Timothy 6:14. THAT you keep this commandment (Or I give to CHARGE before Almighty God and his SON Jesus THAT you KEEP this TEACHING) without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1 Timothy 6:15. Which in his times (Speaking of the first coming of Jesus and his second coming as well during the Millennial age of Jesus) he (Jesus) shall show, who is the blessed and ONLY Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; (The word Potentate means the ONLY Sovereign or ALMIGHTY God over ALL including being THE God over his Son Jesus.
Some Christians think this verse is speaking of Jesus as being the ONLY Almighty God because Jesus is also called the King of kings and the Lord of Lords, but Jesus did NOT come to SHOW us HIMSELF.
Rather, Jesus came to SHOW us the FATHER to be the ONLY TRUE God.
Remember that Jesus came to destroy the works of Satan, the Devil who is the “god” of this present world that wants to be worshiped as being the true God.
Jesus clearly identified the FATHER as being the ONLY TRUE God in John 17:1-3)
1 Timothy 6:16. Who ONLY has immortality, (Meaning that Almighty God who is SPIRIT, the one and ONLY eternal Spirit, is the ONLY one who has always been IMMORTAL or ETERNAL has self-existing life in himself) dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; WHOM no man has seen, nor can see: (God is SPIRIT, who is INVISIBLE and cannot be SEEN with mortal eyes.
But Jesus was seen by many people, and he will yet be seen again by every eye at his second coming.
So then, the “WHO ONLY” is the “who”, that has always been the divine immortal eternal invisible Spirit which is Almighty God the FATHER) to whom, be honor and power everlasting. Amen.”
So then, if Jesus did preexist as a SEPARATE divine ETERNAL Spirit WITH Almighty God by his side, then that would make TWO, who always had IMMORTALITY, which would again be a DIRECT CONTRADICTION with the word of Almighty God.
We just read here in 1 Timothy 6:13-16 that clearly and plainly teaches us that there was but ONE ONLY who ONLY has always possessed IMMORTALITY within Himself.
And that ONE eternal being, who has always possessed in Himself immortality is clearly IDENTIFIED as being the INVISIBLE God who is SPIRIT.
In other words, the Holy Spirit is the FATHER seeing that there is but ONE ETERNAL Spirit.
For a deeper understanding that the Bible ITSELF truly only teaches us of TWO separate persons rather than THREE as the doctrine of the Trinity teaches, please read the study Why the Holy Spirit is the FATHER!
Yes, Jesus is indeed a SEPARATE person from Almighty God the Father but he did not become a second person apart from the Almighty God, until the spoken word of PROPHECY was made to become FLESH and dwell among mankind at the virgin birth.
Also, Jesus did not actually become God's “ETERNAL Son”, until AFTER the cross when God raised up the Son of MAN from the dead and GAVE His human Son eternal life to be having in himself even as the Father has always had immortality in Himself.
And now, God is conforming us who believe to be made in the IMAGE of God’s now GLORIFIED Son, Jesus,
Please read the following three-part study.
So then, absolutely none of these Trinitarian verses in QUESTION definitively demand that Jesus LITERALLY pre-existed as God’s SON in the eternity past.
For you see, in TRUTH, they ALL contradict the fact that Jesus KNEW that the word of prophecy spoken by God’s prophets testified of him as being the one prophesied to come.
Hebrews 10:7 is quoting the prophecy in Psalm 40:7 as referring to Jesus as coming in the VOLUME of the BOOK!
So, to me, Jesus us the FULFILLMENT of the PROPHECIES.
And thus, Jesus is the workmanship of Almighty God who performs or bring to pass what He prophesies into existence.
There is not one single PROPHECY of God the SON coming down from out of heaven down to the earth to become flesh, but yet REMAINING the fully Almighty God having TWO natures at the same time, one divine, and one human.
NOR are there any PROPHECIES of Almighty God Himself coming down out of heaven down to the earth to become flesh, but yet REMAINING fully Almighty God having TWO natures at the same time, one divine, and one human.
And there are no prophecies of God bringing His Son into existence in the eternity past, and then sending his only begotten Son down to the earth to become flesh.
But rather, EVERYTHING we read in the PROPHECIES, concerning HOW Jesus would come, speak of the SPOKEN WORD of God’s PROPHECY becoming flesh.
Jesus UNDERSTOOD that the Scriptures prophesied of him as being the ANOINTED of God to be the Savior of the world.
And Jesus KNEW of the GLORY that was set before him that would follow if he OBEYED his God and Father to do ALL his will including ENDURING the cross.
1 Peter 1:3-13 teaches us that the prophets of old desired to look into this glory that was to follow in the world to come.
1 Peter 1:3-13.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy has begotten us again (Or has begotten us by the gospel of Jesus Christ to be born again as God’s NEW creation created in Jesus Christ) unto a lively hope BY the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Peter 1:4. To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, RESERVED in heaven for you,
1 Peter 1:5. Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Peter 1:6. Wherein you greatly REJOICE, though now for a season, if need be, you are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1 Peter 1:7. That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it is tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and GLORY at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 1:8. Whom having not seen, you love; in whom, though now you see him not, yet believing, you REJOICE with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1 Peter 1:9. Receiving the END of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1 Peter 1:10. Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11. Searching what, or what manner of TIME the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify when it (Speaking of the ANOINTING of God’s Holy Spirit that spoke to God’s prophets God's SPOKEN word of PROPHECY and inspired men of old in the Old Testament to write down those prophecies in the Scriptures.
The Spirit of Christ means the Spirit of ANOINTING.
It was the SAME Spirit who dwelt in Jesus that also inspired men of old to write down the prophecies of God which) testified BEFOREHAND the sufferings of Christ, (Speaking of the ANOINTED Messiah of God raised up from among the people of God) AND the GLORY that should FOLLOW. (Can you not see that the disciples of Jesus did not behold the GLORY as of the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God, until AFTER the cross which is when God glorified the Son of MAN, Jesus, and GAVE him eternal life?)
1 Peter 1:12. Unto whom it was revealed, that NOT unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
1 Peter 1:13. Wherefore, gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the END for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;”
I believe that Jesus UNDERSTOOD that the Scriptures spoke of him as being the one prophesied to come.
And thus, Jesus knew that of his GLORY that was stored up in heaven being RESERVED for him.
And BECAUSE Jesus overcame the world is the very reason that God HIGHLY EXALTED the Son of MAN to be made Lord and God over the world to come for 1000 years.
And, WHEREFORE, if we gird up our loins to endure unto the end then we also have HOPE of the resurrection to be glorified and be made parkers of the divine nature of immortality to be like Jesus.
So then, in John 17:4 Jesus is simply asking his God and Father to glorify him with the ETERNAL LIFE that was reserved for him to JOIN his God and be by his Father’s side in the world which was planned for His SON BEFORE the foundation of the world.
And certainly, all the prophecies are being fulfilled in the ORDER in which they were prophesied.
In other words, a Son was born of a virgin FIRST.
And then, that Son of MAN born of a virgin was GIVEN to die on the cross.
And then, a NAME would be GIVEN to that Son of MAN born of a virgin and he shall be CALLED the Mighty God WHEN the government is laid upon his shoulders in the world to come.
That is what PROPHECY clearly teaches us without any interpretation needed.
Now please read Psalm 89:19-27 which clearly teaches us that Almighty God Himself is THE ROCK and God OF his SON Jesus.
Psalm 89:19-27.
“Then you (My God and My Father) spoke in a VISION to your holy one. (The Bible teaches us that Jesus separated himself to pray to his God and Father.
And we are also told that it would take all the books in the world to tell of Jesus and even then all would not be told which the disciples saw as witnesses of the works Jesus did through the eternal Spirit dwelling in him.
So, even though the New Testament does not specifically tell us of Jesus having a vision and what Jesus saw in that vision, other than the vision on the mount of transfiguration, we still know that Almighty God spoke to His SON Jesus through visions and revelations by the Holy Spirit.
So then, Almighty God spoke to Jesus in a VISION), and said, I have laid help upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one CHOSEN OUT of the people. (So God did not choose a pre-existing Son that He sent down from heaven, but rather, God EXALTED His human Son chosen out of the PEOPLE)
1 Peter 1:20. I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I ANOINTED him: (As in other places, David is a SHADOW or a FIGURE, as in, a PROPHECY of the coming Messiah, Jesus, the miraculously conceived Son of Almighty God in the womb of the Virgin Mary.
In other words, through VISIONS and other means, Almighty God REVEALED to Jesus that the Scriptures spoke of him as being the one prophesied to come into existence by being born of a virgin without having an earthly father.
Also, know that King David was anointed to be the King over the children of Israel as well.
So, parts of this passage of Scripture refer to King David in the Old Testament.
Thus, some things apply to both Jesus and King David while other verses apply ONLY to Jesus as PROPHECY)
1 Peter 1:21. With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him.
1 Peter 1:22. The enemy shall not exact upon him, nor the son of wickedness afflict him.
1 Peter 1:23. And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him.
1 Peter 1:24. But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.
1 Peter 1:25. I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.
1 Peter 1:26. He (Speaking of Jesus) shall cry unto me, You are MY father, MY God, and the ROCK of my salvation. (Jesus was saved from hell. God did not leave the soul of His Son Jesus in hell,
But rather, God saved his soul alive by resurrecting His Son from the dead and giving His Son eternal life)
1 Peter 1:27. Also, I will make HIM my FIRSTBORN, higher than the kings of the earth.”
Please read the following seven part series of Verse Studies on Colossians 1:15;21.
But for now, in 1 Peter 1:27, we clearly see that this passage of Scripture is a PROPHECY of Jesus, whom Almighty God will make to become his FIRSTBORN child.
Clearly, it should be obvious to every Christian that King David was NOT the FIRSTBORN son of God.
Jesus is described as being the FIRSTBORN of every creature in Colossians 1:15, the FIRSTBORN from the dead in Colossians 1:18, and the FIRSTBORN among MANY brethren in Romans 8:29.
And Jesus is the only one whom the Bible teaches us that Almighty God HIGHLY EXALTED and gave a name above every other name to be made a King of kings and a Lord of lords.
And ALL of these prophecies were fulfilled DURING the days of his FLESH and right after the cross except for Jesus actually RULING as the King of kings which will be fulfilled during the world yet to come.
You can read these verses and the studies listed above later, but for now, the focus of this section of this study is to determine WHO the ROCK of the Old Testament is referring to.
Is the ROCK speaking of Yahweh, the Almighty?
Or is the ROCK referring to Jesus? And, if that the ROCK is referring to Jesus in any of those verses of Scripture, then does that prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jesus is the ALMIGHTY God Himself?
Do they prove that Jesus literally pre-existed the second person of a Godhead Trinity God?
In other words, does 1 Corinthians 10:4 prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jesus himself literally pre-existe as a Divine being named the Word?
And if Jesus himself is proven to have pre-existed as a separated Divine being named the Word, then does this prove that Jesus himself is the ALMIGHTY God?
For you see, even if one interprets the Scripture to mean that Jesus literally pre-existed, that still does not prove that Jesus is the Almighty God Himself.
It makes no sense for the Father to be the God of Jesus and for Jesus to be the Almighty God Himself.
Jesus was highly exalted from being made a little lower or inferior to the angels.
So how can an already Almighty God be exalted above the angels for the purpose of the Father to judge the world by the Almighty God who is under and subject to his God who is the Almighty God the Father?
Here in Psalm 89, we can clearly and plainly see that Jesus is not the ROCK.
But rather, Jesus is calling HIS God and Father the ROCK of his own salvation.
There are several places in the New Testament where Jesus did indeed fulfill this prophecy by crying out to his God and Father calling Almighty God saying MY God, MY God, why have you forsaken me in Matthew 27:46.
Jesus also spoke of his Father as being his God saying to Mary Magdalene, touch me not, for I ascend to MY Father and your father, and to MY God and your God in John 20:17.
But Trinitarian Christians try to explain that verse away by claiming that the Father was only the God of the HUMAN side, as in, the human nature of Jesus.
However, in Revelation 3:12 which is after the cross and the glorification of Jesus, we read where Jesus called Almighty God his God four times in that single verse, which to me, makes it blatantly clear that Almighty God the Father is THE Almighty God over His Son Jesus, even His now gloried highly exalted Son.
And seeing that a God who is the Almighty cannot have another God over him, proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jesus could not possibly be the one true and only Almighty God who alone is always clearly identified as being the FATHER.
Please read the study called, Is Jesus ALMIGHTY God?
That study gives you a tone of verses that prove that the God OF Jesus is the only true God, and that Jesus is the SON OF God.
Revelations 3:12.
“He that overcomes will I (Jesus) make a pillar in the temple of MY God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY God, and the name of the city of MY God, which is new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from MY God: and I will write upon him my new name.”
Now some of the following verses clearly and plainly refer to Almighty God as being THE ROCK, as in, being a fortress or a defense to be trusted.
Then in other verses in the Old Testament, speaking of the rock that Moses smote with the rod of Aaron, are most definitely referring to the coming Messiah, who will give LIVING WATER to those who believe in him as the Son of Almighty God who died for their sins.
They do not prove that Jesus literally pre-existed, but rather, they can easily be seen as TYPES and SHADOWS that prophesied the coming Messiah.
Exodus 17:1-6 speaks of the rock of Horeb that Almighty God himself stood before to bring forth the life-giving water when Moses smote the rock.
Numbers 20:1-13 speaks of the rock of Horeb that Moses was commanded to SPEAK to, but Moses smote the rock twice.
Deuteronomy chapter 8 also speaks of the rock of Horeb.
Deuteronomy chapter 32 is clearly speaking of Yahweh.
1 Samuel 2:2 is speaking of Yahweh.
2 Samuel chapter 22 is speaking of Yahweh.
2 Samuel 23:3 is speaking of Yahweh.
Psalm 18 is a prophecy of Jesus, who is speaking to his God Yahweh as the one being his ROCK.
Psalm 28 is a prophecy of Jesus crying out to Yahweh as being ROCK. So again, Yahweh is the rock.
Psalm 31 is a prophecy of Jesus calling upon Yahweh his ROCK for strength.
Now, some Christians INTERPRET verse 10 to mean that the person speaking here could not be Jesus because this person sinned.
But if you read this Psalm carefully, you will see that men were seeking to take this man’s life.
Did not Jesus PRAY in the garden for strength right before he surrendered himself to be crucified?
Did Jesus freely take upon OUR sins as his OWN when he bore OUR sins upon the cross?
Well, this Hebrew word that is translated as iniquity carries that meaning of looking at the PUNISHMENT of sin.
So, another way to communicate verse 10 would be to say, my strength fails, because of the punishment that awaits me for sin.
Psalm 42 is speaking of God or Yahweh being the rock.
Psalm 61 is speaking of God or Yahweh being the rock, who is higher than I.
Psalm 62 is speaking of God or Yahweh as being our only rock.
Psalm 72 is a prophecy of Jesus calling out to his rock, who is Yahweh.
Psalm 78 is the rock in the wilderness that was broken for the people of Israel.
They remembered that Almighty God was their rock.
It is not so much the rock itself, but rather, it is what the rock provided for the people.
What I mean by this is that Almighty God Himself created the rock, created the water stored in or beneath the rock, then provided a way for the rock to be broken in order to bring forth water to give LIFE to SAVE his people from dying of thirst.
Please read the study Titus 2:13 Who is Our SAVIOR, God or Jesus?
For you see, there can be TWO Saviors that are not one and the self-same being.
It is Yahweh who is THE Savior that has chosen to use a MAN to be the Savior of the world.
Psalm 92:15 is speaking of Yahweh.
Psalm 94 is speaking of Almighty God Yahweh.
Psalm 95 is speaking of Yahweh.
Psalm 105 teaches us that Almighty God sent Moses, who then smote or hit the rock but it was Almighty God Himself who was the one who opened the rock to gush forth waters like rivers.
Psalm 114 again teaches us that is was Almighty God himself who turned the rock into standing water.
Isaiah 17 is speaking of God or Yahweh as being the rock.
Isaiah 48:21 teaches us again that God is the one who caused the water to come out of the rock.
Jeremiah 23:29 likens God's word to a hammer that breaks the rock.
And in 1 Peter 2:8 and Romans 9:33 Jesus is called a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense to those who REJECT him as being the MESSIAH that gives to those who BELIEVE upon him LIVING WATER to drink.
But Peter was also called a rock. So being called the rock or the stone does not make one to actually BE Almighty God Yahweh Himself.
So, in the same way that Jesus is MADE to be both Lord and Christ that Yahweh Himself raised up to be a Savior of the people and to be highly exalted to be made a King of kings is how Almighty God made Jesus be “A” rock.
In other words, Jesus was made a rock symbolically that was broken so that whoever DRINKS the water of LIFE that is brought forth by Almighty God from the rock shall LIVE and not perish.
It is always Yahweh PERFORMING His own word of PROPHECY where Jesus is the FULFILMENT of Yahweh’s prophesied word.
Jesus is the fulfillment of spoken word of God that was PROPHESIED in the Old Testament that was made flesh.
In other words, the whole word of God clearly teaches us that the literal physical “ROCK” in the wilderness was a TYPE or a FIGURE of the coming MESSIAH, Jesus, the CHRIST.
Almighty God Himself sent or commissioned His human Son to give his own life to be broken for our sin so that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES that Jesus is the Son of Almighty God shall not perish but drink of the living water and shall have eternal life.
So then, while 1 Corinthians 10:4 says that ROCK is CHRIST and the Old Testament says that THE ROCK is Almighty God HIMSELF, that does NOT dogmatically mean, without fail, that Jesus is THE ALMIGHTY God HIMSELF as some FALSELY conclude.
NOR does this mean that Jesus PRE-EXISTED as the SECOND person of the Trinity as some falsely teach.
But rather, this verse simply means that the verses in the Old Testament speak of the literal physical rock that was broken and brought forth water was a TYPE or a FIGURE that was a PROPHECY of the coming Messiah, Jesus, the CHRIST.
The anointed human Son of MAN would become obedient to do all the will of his God and Father to be HIGHLY EXALTED and given a name above all names so that every knee shall bow and confess that Jesus Christ is the anointed one to the glory of Almighty God the Father.
In truth, everything that Jesus is was GIVEN to him by his God and Father the ALMIGHTY.
So, the living water that Jesus will give to all the faithful believers was COMMITTED unto him to do so by his God and Father who is over ALL including his SON Jesus.
Again, I do not teach these truths to bring Jesus down, but rather, I teach what I teach to show YOU who you truly are being IN CHRIST Jesus.
You are ANOINTED by God to do the SAME works that Jesus did THROUGH the ANOINTING that dwelt IN him.
The SAME Holy Spirit who dwelt IN Jesus now dwells IN you to empower you to live without sin and do the mighty works of healing that God did through His human Son during the days of his flesh and now does through us.
I teach the HUMANITY of Jesus so you can see that the eternal Spirit, Almighty God the Father Himself DWELT IN His human SON, Jesus, and that this SAME eternal Spirit, Almighty God the Father HIMSELF, now DWELLS IN YOU as a BELIEVER in Jesus being the Christ, the SON OF Almighty God the Father.
Nowhere in the Scripture are we taught or commanded that we must believe that Jesus is Almighty God Himself in the flesh in order to be saved.
That is a man-made doctrine that actually teaches against Jesus being ANOINTED in the flesh.
Please read 1 John 4:6-16.
“We are of God: he that knows God hears us; he that is not of God hears not us. Hereby, we know the spirit of TRUTH, and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God, and everyone that loves is born of God and knows God.
1 John 4:8. He that loves not knows not God; for God is love.
1 John 4:9. In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God SENT His only begotten SON into the world, that we might live through him. (Again, the word translates as SENT in the past tense means SENDS in the present tense, as in, God COMMISSIONS the Son of MAN to go out into the world to preach the kingdom is at hand.
The word commission means to give power and authority to one to accomplish the task that they are given to do)
1 John 4:10. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and SENT (COMMISSIONED) his SON to be the propitiation for our sins.
1 John 4:11. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
1 John 4:12. No man has seen God at any time. (Because God is SPIRIT and He is INVISIBLE so that NO mortal man can EVER SEE him) If we love one another, God DWELLS IN us, and his love is perfected in us.
1 John 4:13. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and HE IN US, BECAUSE he (Almighty God the Father) has GIVEN us of his Spirit. (This verse along with many other verses of Scripture clearly teaches us that Almighty God and the Holy Spirit are ONE and the SELF-SAME BEING.
So, we have Almighty God the FATHER who IS the Holy Spirit and we have God’s SON Jesus whom God made to become a life-giving Spirit by GIVING the Son of MAN, Jesus the power and the authority to JUDGE the living and the dead.
Acts 17:22-31 teaches us that Almighty God will judge the world BY the MAN that He APPOINTED or ORDAINED)
1 John 4:14. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.
1 John 4:15. Whosoever shall CONFESS that Jesus is the SON OF God, God DWELLS IN him, and he in God. (Nowhere in the word of TRUTH, the Holy Bible, have I myself ever found that we are commanded or taught to CONFESS or BELIEVE that Jesus HIMSELF is THE ONE TRUE and ONLY ALMIGHTY God.
But here we are CLEARLY and PLAINLY taught to believe and CONFESS that Jesus is the SON OF Almighty God the Father)
1 John 4:16. And we have known and believed the love that God has toward us. God is love, and he that dwells in love dwells in God, and God IN him.”
And since that God is in us, then most assuredly God is WITH us.
And since God is with us he must surely be FOR us.
And since God is FOR us, then who can be against us. Jesus said that WORKS that he did YOU shall do ALSO.
Almighty God the Father is our ROCK and Jesus His SON is our sure FOUNDATION.
But yet, in the LIGHT of all this evidence from God's word of TRUTH, there are some Christians who will say what about this verse or what about that verse because they have been dogmatically demanding that the ONLY meaning those verses can have is that Jesus MUST, without fail, PRE-EXISTED as God the SON, the second person of a Godhead Trinity God who was WITH God by His SIDE from all eternity past WITHOUT ever having a BEGINNING.
So, for all the DOUBTING Thomas Christians, I will explain in detail ALL the verses in QUESTIONS that I have been made aware of that are used by Trinitarian Christians to try and prove Jesus literally pre-existed in the eternity past without ever having a beginning.
You see, Trinitarian Christians MUST prove that Jesus literally pre-existed in the eternity past and that there are THREE separate persons or their whole doctrine of the Trinity falls apart.
To me, the doctrine of the Trinity must be read into the Scriptures.
It took over four centuries to form, and many Christians were martyred, because of their rejecting the man-made doctrine of the Trinity.
I will end this Verse Study by leaving Trinitarian Christians and Oneness Pentecostal Christians with the follow question to ponder.
What if the Trinitarian UNDERSTANDING of John 1:1 is WRONG?
What if the Oneness Pentecostal UNDERSTANDING of John 14:9 is WRONG?
What if the Bible itself is actually teaching that a MAN became a God to replace the fallen god of this present world?
If so, then ALL Trinitarian Christians and ALL Oneness Pentecoastal Christians are teaching ANOTHER Jesus that the Apostles of Jesus did not teach.
And thus, God cannot use them as His TRUTHFUL WITNESSES to JUDGE the fallen angels or the fallen gods.
Here is a quote from another website explaining what the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD was all about.
“The Council of Chalcedon was called in 451 CE by the Roman Emperor Marcian (r. 450-457) to settle debates regarding the nature (hypostases, "reality") of Christ that had begun at two earlier meetings in Ephesus (431 CE and 439 CE).
The question was whether Christ was human or divine, a man who became God (through the resurrection and ascension) or God who became a man (through the incarnation, "taking on flesh"), and how his humanity and divinity affected his essence and being, if at all.”
In other words, ALL Christians at that time in history agreed that Jesus was DEITY or had divine NATURE.
But the question or DEBATE was HOW was Jesus Deity? When was Jesus Deity?
And did the Son of man, Jesus, become deity after the cross and resurrection?
Or did a pre-existing God become a man who remained fully God during the days of his flesh having BOTH natures at the SAME time, one Divine and one human, DURING the days of his FLESH?
Before you conclude your final answer, I implore you to read all of Book 11, The True Jesus, according to the Apostles’ DOCTRINE!
Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
Once Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even atheists understand the REASON that Yahweh CREATED the Son of MAN, Jesus, was to have DOMINION over the work of Yahweh’s hands.
And after you understand that the REASON that Yahweh did that is to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Then you can understand that God made His human Son to become “a” Lord, “a” King, and “a” God, under and subject to his God and Father in order to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels.
For a deeper understanding of this WAR that Lucifer and one third of the angels waged against the throne of Almighty God, please read the studies under the subject category called Q-0 Why Are We Here? Is God at WAR?
More studies are coming in this SHORTER Biblical Unitarian view of who Jesus is according to the WHOLE word of God.
If you have a PARTICULAR verse of Scripture that you would like to know the sound Biblical Unitarian meaning, then please email me at MarkatAMatterOfTruth@Gmail.com and let me know.
For further and more in-depth studies on this subject of Jesus being created to STILL the enemies of Yahweh, please read the studies called D-25. A NEW LOOK at John 1:1, In the BEGINNING!
And also read the study called D-28. The Pre-Adamic Race and the Luciferian Flood!
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Thanks again for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
And again, for ALL of the studies on the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus, please click on the subject heading D-0 The BIBLICAL UNITARIAN VIEW of Jesus!
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Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,
Brother Mark.
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