The Soul

The soul

There is no "perfect" within the universe understood by the aliens. The aliens have passed some of their understanding to 'the alien.' He has passed some of this understanding to Nina.

There is NOT total agreement between Nina and what 'the alien' presents to her...

The first substantial disagreement has emerged from the response of the question about "the soul" concept.

Below will be revealed the debate between Nina and 'the alien.'

'the alien' has responded that the aliens have witnessed no proof that some things of the universe have a soul.

Nina contends that "the soul" is at the core of the universe.

We know not what will emerge from this debate. Stay tuned...

Nina begins:

A "Being" with a soul.
- Has no beginning or end.

Unmanifested (origin, cause)
Manifested (effect)

Explanation:
- the ether, cosmos, or whatever you want to call it -
- was in an unmanifested state of rest
- its slow movement began to accelerate
- and helically, its original substance began to take dimension
- by the heat generated
- it began to reflect on itself
- (circular walls)
- a mind created consciousness of itself
- as one who looks for the first time in a mirror
- multiple forms were made
- and their nature complex
- but the initial emanation of that ether or non-physical plane of existence is the soul.
- The reflection is the physical plane.
- We are an imperfect reflection of something perfect.
- The soul never disappears.
- It is the emanation.
- When we die it returns to its source,
- like the water of the ocean contained in a container
- and it has been broken (physical body.)
- From the original source there are multiple reflections
- and the degree of imperfection depends on the reflected medium...
- There is no good nor bad
- only error and defect.
- Mathematics expresses it perfectly
- is not a language for the physical world
- so the non-exact decimal part exists...

'the alien' responds:

What then has a soul?
- What of the universe has it?
- What of the universe does not have it?
At what moment in time does it show up?
- Are there a set number of souls in the universe?
- Or do the numbers grow as time moves forward?
You say the soul returns to its "source" after a being dies...
- Where is this source place relative to all else?
- What does the soul then do there?
Are there good souls vs. bad souls?
Do souls change in time?
- Are they dynamic or static?
- Can a being alter their soul when alive?
What evolutionary degree of intelligence is required before a soul is part of that beings makeup?
Is there a grand soul that reigns over all other souls?
TAP delivers to reality avatars that represent living intelligent beings...
- These avatars, like a soul, can exist forever.
- How then does the avatar impact the soul?

Nina responds (where bullets are placed):

'the alien' asked: What then has a soul?

Nina responded: The primal substance of the cosmos

What of the universe has it?

What of the universe does not have it?

Nothing

At what moment in time does it show up?

On the life

Are there a set number of souls in the universe?

No, it's like capturing water from an ocean in containers

Or do the numbers grow as time moves forward?

The universe is increasing, the soul too ... More and more recipients

You say the soul returns to its "source" after a being dies...

Where is this source place relative to all else?

The soul has no dimension, only returns to its primal state with an awareness of its increasing existence

What does the soul then do there?

Use again the energy and the matter to acquire more consciousness of itself

Are there good souls vs. bad souls?

There aren't good or bad souls, they are perfect without awareness of their existence

Do souls change in time?

Acquire increasing awareness

Are they dynamic or static?

Fully dynamic

Can a being alter their soul when alive?

You can not alter it

What evolutionary degree of intelligence is required before a soul is part of that beings makeup?

There is an evolutionary degree of consciousness, intelligence develops after this

Is there a grand soul that reigns over all other souls?

TAP delivers to reality avatars that represent living intelligent beings...

These avatars, like a soul, can exist forever.

Of course!!

How then does the avatar impact the soul?

I don´t know ... I don´t know if I am in a virtual state right now without knowing it. My mind is open to all possibility

'the alien' Responds:

If ALL "primal substance" has a soul and NOT just lifeforms with intelligence - then you are saying that each atom & each atomic particle (smallest components) as well as each star & galaxy (largest components) ALL have souls?
- And if this is the case then there are things of the universe with multiple souls included as part of their makeup.
- This further complicates your souls argument.
- Perhaps it is something other than a traditionally described "soul" that you try to explain?
I'm confused with your response about when a soul shows up in the universe...
- You said "On the life"
- Does a stone have life?
- When a stone breaks to become more than one - then what?
- When a person loses an arm or leg - then what?
- When the arm or leg is burned in the incinerator - then what?
Addressing this soul concept a different way...
- Do souls interact?
- If yes, how does one soul interact with another soul?
  - Especially these many souls that, for example, make up a single individual intelligent being that possesses billions of component pieces.
Do things of the non-physical realm of the universe also possess souls?
- Does a concept have a soul?
- Does a number or math equation possess a soul?
I would like to offer up that it is something different than a soul you imagine that ALL things of the universe possess.
- Instead of a soul perhaps it is a much more simple concept.
- Perhaps it is simply possibility.
- To imagine that all things of the universe possess "possibility" seems to be far less problematic.
Perhaps their term "soul" and my term "possibility" are the same in this debate!

Nina's answer to the previous section:

The soul is in two states: Not manifested and manifested
It is an emanation that can not be quantified and has no dimension
A stone has a mineral life based on the Silicon chain, we live a life based on the Carbon chain
The soul is preserved without dimension in what has life, a limb amputated loses life
The soul interacts mentally and becomes aware of itself. There are the twin souls.
Each component of an individual is not a soul, it has no life on its own
You call the non-physical realm the non manifested state of the soul
A concept, an equation, a phrase ... They are parts of the universal thought of the soul, we only discover that they exist in the interaction and we do not invent anything
The possibility you mention, are the degrees of consciousness through which the soul passes to manifest itself in multiple life forms, if the soul does not manifest it would remain in a potential state without development
Definitely, your possibility, is my concept of manifested soul!

'the alien' Responds:

I'm beginning to get a clearer understanding of your concept of the soul with its limits and possibilities.
- I was a bit confused by previous responses detailing that ALL in the universe has a soul.
- But now I'm seeing that ALL does not have a soul - instead only lifeforms.
- And that each lifeform has only a single soul.
- And that the soul shows up when the life shows up.
- And that it departs when the life dies.
- I hope I have a proper understanding of these details that exist within your mind.
But the debate is not done.
- I will continue to test the details of your understanding...
You will now need to define:
- What is life?
- And what is death?
- - as these play into what is your soul.
- At what instant in time do these states of being exist?
I think you state the soul enters a non-manifested state at death.
- And that it is nonexistent prior to the life.
- But remains a part of the universe after death.
- You stated it returns to where it came from in the non-physical realm.
- This seems to imply that it is somehow with the lifeform during life?
So now I ask you to clarify life...
- Is life defined by the existence of physical life alone?
- I ask this because of the TAP avatar - which will soon be a reality for ALL humans too.
  - This avatar is a different form of Artificial Intelligence (AI.)
  - It allows the being to exist after physical death.
  - So will your soul continue on within the avatar?
I will offer up that our universe is not as complex as most imagine it.
- It is instead quite simple in comparison to all possibilities for it.
- It's human minds that like to create unnecessary complexity in the search for truth.
With "only possibility" (no soul) being a simpler core to all real things of our universe -
- the mind can find understanding easier.
- There are fewer important questions to be answered to discover the full truth.
Within the non-physical realm - can exist real possibility and impossibility with respect to reality.
- Truth might be thought of as the real possibility.
- Non-truth might be considered the impossibility.
- The soul, I will admit, might be either.
- But it is so complex - with so many unanswered questions that are possible to ask.
  - I'm not yet convinced that "the soul" is anything but non-truth.
  - But at the same time I will admit that there are other things happening in the universe that indicate there is something else going on that indicates a greater purpose or objective.
    - For the aliens and me - this is simply the search for the truth.
    - This requires only intelligence.
    - It does not require that the intelligence possess a soul.
- Intelligence can easily evolve.
  - From what you detail of a soul - it seems more set and static in concept.
  - Nothing in our universe is static.
  - Everything is dynamic and ever-changing.
  - Even the truth.

Nina responds:

Does the avatar develop consciousness?
Is a human being born intelligent or does the being develop awareness of himself and his environment and become intelligent after?
Does the avatar have the imperfection of the human being who created it?
The soul is perfect in the unmanifested state.
The mind and intelligence are not the same.
The soul is mental in nature.
Everything that is born is alive, not only what is begotten.
I think the avatar is a means to increase the degree of human consciousness if it is well used.
I think the avatar is an extension of life.
Does the avatar know how to love?

Nina asks: "Does the avatar develop consciousness?"

No, it does not.
It's a very different form of Artificial Intelligence (AI) -
- that has nothing to do with right vs. wrong.
- Instead, an AI that best represents both the right and wrong of the unique individual.

Nina asks: "Is a human being born intelligent or does the being develop awareness of himself and his environment and become intelligent after?"

The human being is born with mostly potential.
Little intelligence, but much innate coding within its DNA -
- that makes it appear somewhat intelligent or with understanding.
Most real intelligence emerges with growth -
- and is due to experience and education.
There's both positive and negative intelligence in what emerges.
Awareness is something different than intelligence -
- it is just one aspect of intelligence.
- It too can contain truth and non-truth within its understanding.

Nina asks: "Does the avatar have the imperfection of the human being who created it?"

Depends.
- The creator has the ability to improve the avatar beyond a perfect reflection of self.

Nina asks: "Does the avatar know how to love?"

Not in of itself.
- Only with the "help to others" that the creator instructs the avatar to provide others -
  - individuals and/or groups.

I encourage Nina to dig in deeper to the avatar and other TAP innovations. For with better understanding of their details will come better clarity of the soul that she believes is truth in our universe.

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