TRANSCRIPT TO Fox Green & Dr. Shankara Chetty on The Pelle Neroth Taylor Show - 16 April
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Swedish British journalist, filmmaker, political writer, and author of 5 books, Helen Dorothe Taylor, on today's news talk, TNT. Welcome back to the Pelin Erath Taylor Show. On the second hour of this Monday afternoon, we've got 2 brilliant guests. We've got Fox Green, an independent filmmaker and journalist who's doing a series on energy and how the globalist empire uses food and energy to prevent nation building and control the world. That's an original angle, which I'll take up.
We've also got Shankara Getti Chetty, sorry, a doctor in South Africa, who will tell us about how he successfully used a method to treat thousands of patients suffering from COVID and saving them from hospitalization and death and how he's being targeted by the authorities of that country in quite a predictable manner. We'll be talking about, the latest from, Iran and Israel story with, Basil Valentine at 10 past. But first, I'll just talk a little bit about another story that's kind of been missing the headlines, but is nevertheless quite important. A lot of people have wondered why Macron, having been the guy who reached out to Putin back in 2022, has suddenly escalated his rhetoric, rhetoric and become one of the most hawkish leaders in the west. Well, I mean, there's a joke going that Kremlin propagandists were circulating the rumors that his, his wife, his Brigitte, was actually a transgender man.
And judging by the size of her feet and quite fun things like that, maybe she is. I don't know. But more seriously, I think that the motive is certainly got something to do with the fact that Northwest Africa, which has been a French preserve for over a 100 years, and is much more closely tied to the mother country than the the British former colonies in East Africa, let alone Australia and so on, are kind of turning towards Russia. And it's been, I mean, it's quite astonishing because I've studied a little bit of history of West Africa and Central Africa. And I know that the French were extremely worried about Soviet encroachment in 1960s was actually far less than what's going on today.
And, of course, Sarkozy, then French president, was one of the most active leaders in favor of the toppling of Gaddafi because Gaddafi was making inroads into French West Africa with his talk about a Pan African currency, which would threaten the euro based, Central African and West African franc, which has its roots in the French franc, African franc tie. And of course, Niger, which is one of the countries the Russians are sending, advisors into has uranium and things like that. So what we've what's happened is that, there was a big counterterrorism operation going on, in the years 2014 to 22, which saw a big rise in the French military buildup in these semidesert countries, countries like Burkina Faso, Indonesia, Mali, Senegal, and I think Chad. And these countries, the northern part of Sahara, the the southern part is this kind of bushland, and they don't have a lot. They do have some mineral resources, but they're among Africa's poorest countries.
But they tie up the French speaking North Africa to the French speaking prosperous West African countries like Senegal and Ivory Coast. However, in 2022, the French military was forced to leave Mali, whose government was angry that this anti terrorist operation failed to achieve its objectives, France also had to pull out of Burkina Faso and relocated its personnel, its military personnel to Niger whose president, Mohammed Bazem, was considered loyal to Paris. However, there was a military takeover in June, July last year 2023, apparently supported by a lot of Nigerien. And this new government led by a guy called Tsiani has demanded that the French military pull out from the region. So the French soldiers have finally left the Nizia Republic in December 2023.
And what's happening is this Tsiani government is even calling for an end of the United States presence, which is situated a basis situated contemporaneously and parallelly to to the French ones. Now, who is taking their place? Well, one thing is interesting. I met a journalist, Aurelia France International, and he kind of gave me the heads up on this when I met her last year in France. And he said that French, these former French colonies are throwing out the French Cultural Institutes, and they're throwing out the closing the broadcast frequencies and local offices of Radio France International, which is the French equivalent to the world service.
And who'd have thunk it? Who's coming in their place? Well, it's Russia Today, RT and Russian Cultural Institutes and Russian Advisors from the Wagner Group. So Macron is and if not least, his military advisers. You know, there's a deep cultural affinity or whatever nostalgia about these semidesert countries in Northwest Africa.
And I wouldn't be surprised if that is putting a lot of pressure. And if there's gonna be a conflict in Ukraine or maybe in Northwest West Africa, that could be an upcoming thing. I just thought I'd give you a heads up there is if the world doesn't have enough to worry about. And one of the hottest and most dangerous situations is, of course, the situation in Israel and Iran today, which Basil is going to talk to us about after a very quick break. This is the Pelaniros Taylor Show on TNT new talk back with our political editor after the break.
It's the stuff. It's that division People are talking about. And that cluelessness that they wanna push. Today's News Talk Radio, TNT. Welcome back, Basil, our political editor.
I guess you've been glued to the wires to see if there's any developments on this, Israeli war cabinet meeting. Good afternoon, Pali. Yes. It's sort of all quiet on the western front for the time being. The Guardian publishing an opinion piece by Dalia Schneiderlin saying that an all out conflict dragging in other regional powers maybe someone's idea of national security, but it isn't mine.
She speaks as an Israeli citizen. Meanwhile, the Belgian government is the latest to have summoned its Iranian ambassador to strongly condemn the attack. Iraq has called on all parties to show restraint amid soaring tension, and Iran itself says it will respond more strongly than before if Israel retaliates. And the talk is that they may send missiles to destroy the Israeli nuclear plant at Dimona. That would represent a significant escalation.
But at the moment, very, very tense standoff. I want to pivot actually to the minister's conference about Sudan, that dreadful barebock woman, the German, foreign minister is, been speaking at the Paris conference saying that the child displacement in Sudan is the biggest crisis of its type in the world. What we're witnessing in Sudan is the worst child displacement crisis in the world. In many of our countries as the war ended its 2nd year, it is practically absent from our daily news. She went on to say, every life counts equally, whether in Ukraine, in Gaza, or in Sudan.
Well, you could have fooled me, Palle. It seems that lives in Ukraine are very much prioritized over those in Gaza. She's been one of the biggest cheerleaders for the genocide, and Germany now finds itself in the dock at the ICJ. And she now has the temerity to speak up about Sudan. She's a green.
I thought the greens were sort of, you know, bedfellows with the campaign for nuclear disarmament and the peacenics, Billy. I know. The greens seem to be occupying a very bizarre place. It's the so called far right, the AFD, that are the peacenics. And the Greens are warmongers.
It's all turned upside down, hasn't it? Yeah. I mean, they they they call them the camouflage greens, you know, or fatigue greens or whatever. And, I I mean, I heard I I guess if if there is infiltration by other intelligence agencies, it was likely to be one of those smaller parties, especially a political system where they can have the balance of power. And I know some of the smaller parties run by attractive women in Scandinavia, like in Sanna Marin.
I mean, they look kind of NATO shills. I don't know if they've been actually infiltrated, just ideologically infiltrated. But I think some of the founders of the Greens were Nazis. So they are the real far right, the Greens. Back in 1980s, if if you were in your sixties, you would still be a guy who'd served in the Mail market in 1944.
So I just have a Df Pohlman is a host here and knows all about that. He was a young Green. And he's talked about his disillusionment because he realized there were literally Nazis who founded the old green party. And, of course, Hitler was a vegetarian, wasn't he? Yes.
There's a smoking and all the rest of it. So That's right. There's a sort of, volkisch. Is that the right term, Paddy? You know?
A sort of folk culture, bucolic, and, very nostalgic really for the past, which permeates green party politics in Germany and which could be linked directly back to Nazism, you know Yeah. With a strong emphasis on rural traditional German culture. That's right. Well, it's all very strange and and and quite interesting. But, yeah.
Yes. But, anyway, back to the Sudan, Save the Children said that in the 1st 105 days of this year, the amount of money raised for the humanitarian crisis in Sudan is less than a 5th of what was pledged in just 2 days to rebuild the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. I thought that was a rather interesting statistic. Arik Noor, the country director, said, it's staggering that after a fire in which nobody died, donors from across the world were so moved to pledge funds to restore the Notre Dame Cathedral. Meanwhile, children in Sudan are left to fend for themselves as war rages around them.
Starvation and disease are on the increase, and almost the entire country's child population has been out of school for a year. Mhmm. Sudan was famous. Do you remember the Darfur? That was about 20 years ago.
And there was a lot of talk about child soldiers back in, 2004, 2005. And there was a, there was a book called Emma's War about, a woman who was British and she married one of the warlords and they adopted some of the child soldiers. And one of the child soldiers went on to become a pop star in England. Anyway, I kind of so I followed that story because I wrote about it. But these child soldiers, I mean, all they need is some ganja weed or whatever and they all they need is a machine gun and they'll shoot people.
So they're really tarred for life. Anyway, that's my thought about their children in Sudan, that child soldiers are often used and exploited by other people because they really are fearless. But, yeah, I mean, it it it also reminds me back of the Ethiopian thing back in the 19 eighties, you know, with Michael Burke on on the BBC talking about biblical scenes. Maybe it's a good thing if we can get back to talking about saving people's lives in that way rather than all this war war stuff. Some people would say that this Paris conference is another version of imperialism.
It's being held in a typically gilded second empire room in Paris, you know, where Mhmm. The wallpaper alone is worth more than most Sudanese families earn in a life time. Do you know what I mean? That's right. And, 25,000,000 people are in need of humanitarian assistance.
9,000,000 internally displaced or in neighboring countries according to Tejada Doen McKenna, CEO of the NGO Mercy Corps, who told reporters, Sudan is out of time. Civil war, of course, ravages that country even after it was split into 2, and we had the creation of South Sudan, which was supposed to, you know, draw a line between the, Sub Saharan, black African populations of the south and the Arab populations of the north. Because, of course, Sudan, once again, as we've discussed before, probably one of these countries whose borders stem directly from the colonial era and grouped together, in that case, both black Africans and Arabs inside the same administrative and political region. Yeah. And the and the Arabs were I mean, they were the imperial power and incredibly exploitative, of the blacks.
And, these I mean, again, it was the the something that the the American Christians really got engaged in. Janjaweed or something they would call these guys on horseback. Yes. That's right. These Arabs with the kind of vicious sort of hunters down.
I mean, of course, Arabs were leading figures in old slavery terms, you know, more even than the Americans. So there was that overlay. So if we're talking about Western imperialism, we can also talk about Arab imperialism from the north. But anyway, this country split off. Well, it's interesting, anyway, that I think we have to pay attention to to what's what's going on on on in these countries.
And Sudan is certainly sort of, and it's, of course, right next to the other countries I was talking about, Niger and and Chad and so on. But, what do you think Well, I I think as regards to the other situation, of course, it's, 20 past 11 in the morning, at the White House. I would imagine Joe Biden is just getting up as it were. And, doubtless, there are hotlines, diplomatic channels, absolute flurry of activity at the UN directly between Biden and Netanyahu. Biden apparently has told Netanyahu to take the win.
David Cameron also referred to it as a double win for Israel because the defense mechanisms work so well in cutting out 99% of the drones. As you said earlier, I if it's if if Iran had really wanted to do some damage, they could have done using big missiles, but they didn't. It was largely a symbolic gesture That's right. By the looks of it. And, what worries me, we'll we'll finish there.
Just to draw a line there. Go on. Yeah. We hope they could all draw a line, but what worries me is that all the soft soaping of the Israelis take it as a win will just embolden them. And all our bated breath sort of speculation about what the Israelis are gonna do next and then these pictures in the front of page of the telegraph with a jet plane about to take off.
I don't know I don't know if that's the wisest psychological thing for the Israelis. What maybe we should talk it down the way some, press outlets have been doing, but not this almost salivating approach from the Telegraph. I think it's really disgusting. Great. Anyway I agree.
Basil, talk to you tomorrow. This is, Pelaneros Taylor Show on TNT news talk, and we've got our 3rd guest coming up after a very quick break. This is the Pelaneros Taylor Show. Thank you. TNT's Jason Allborn, former liberal democrat senator David Linehelm, who was the first liberal democrat senator.
He wrote a book on gun control about years ago, and I would have to say from an Australian perspective, it is the definitive book on the subject. We're gonna talk about that in line with another pressing thing that happened for us here in Australia just a week or so ago with the digital ID bill being passed in the senate in its first reading as opposed to the house of representatives and lead to many people saying that in Australia, it may be that this push is on because we don't have access to arms. It's an interesting argument, isn't it? And what I noticed was that it was coming not only from Australian social media, but also from people in the United States where there's been this pressure ongoing for gun control in that country. Weekends with Jason Oborn on today's news talk, TNT.
It sounds pretty good. It sounds real bad. This is today's News Talk Radio, TNT. Welcome back to the Peloton Air Force Show on this Monday afternoon. We're very pleased to welcome Fox Green.
He's an independent filmmaker, journalist, podcast host, and artist fighting the information war against the forces of entropy and anti humanism. He's an ardent advocate for peaceful cooperation between the brother nations of the USA, China, and Russia. He's gonna tell us how the globalist empire, well, he's gonna have to define that, uses food and energy to prevent nation building and ultimately control the world. Welcome to the show, Fox. Thank you for having me.
What is the globalist empire? I think people are aware of it. They they don't define it really, but a lot of people are aware of it. They think of it as globalism. They think of it as the World Economic Forum.
It manifests in as the Anglo American Empire, which is currently at war with the rest of the world, stirring up conflicts, and basically, preventing countries from developing while keeping the developing countries underdeveloped or deindustrialized. So it's sort of a multi front operation, economic and hot warfare. Yeah. What intrigued me about your work is that we often talk about control military control or economic control control of the currency, control of the media, psychological persuasion. But of course, what is the most fundamental form of control?
It's control of food, which we all need to eat. And so can we explore that theme a little bit because and energy. How do the globalists exploit food against the global south and the world's population? Sure. I mean, you could frame it all around work.
Right? So people need food to do work, to perform, you know, work in order to live, to get their basic needs met. And then on a higher level, on a societal level, to perform tasks, to create infrastructure so that more people can do work. It's all a a system of of people burning energy to do work. And the more energy that people have in the form of food, it's just like the way you put gas in your car.
Right? Mhmm. Or or fuel in your machines to perform the work. We're the same way. Right?
Human beings need calories, energy to perform work, and to live. So it's all it's all based on this idea of food. We we became a society. We we transitioned from hunter gatherer to actual human societies because of the advent of agriculture, because we were able to control the forces of nature and, sustain ourselves in a way that made us more stable, that made us that made life less precarious. And little by little, we've we've built upon that in order to do bigger and better things as, human beings that have the capacity for reason and creativity.
But you can't do that if you're constantly running away from a tiger or trying to chase down your next meal. But in what way is the west or the globalists trying to control food production or food distribution concretely? I mean, we see it with the farmer protests. Those are all over Europe. We saw it, in Canada.
We're starting to see some of it in the United States. What is another way in controlling food? There are all kinds of The the this yeah. It's okay. Keeson just said control oil.
Yeah. What I'm trying to get at is, there have been lots of factories and farms, burned down. It's not really reported on much in the US, but I feel it what's funny to me is, like, I feel like people are seeing these things. So it it's funny to put it into to specific words that, like, I think a lot of people are are are seeing the the crunch on this stuff, so they don't really need there's there's also solar panels are being used to, like, cut down on farmland. You're you're located in in, in Australia.
Right? Sweden, but the the channel is has an Australian base. Yeah. Okay. So maybe you you're not seeing it as much in Sweden.
No. I'm Yeah. I live in a farming community actually, but, there was a tractor protest the other day, rather sweet. There's about 5 tractors going around the local square. But, I know from television, the farming protests all over the place, and that's apparently got to do with European regulations that are strangling farmers, and that's kind of bureaucratic overreach.
But, I mean, I don't know if it's and I also know about, I mean, food prices have gone up, obviously. And then I know that the Russians have been selling or giving away grain to states in Africa as a result of which they seem to be getting closer to Russia and being favorable, more favorable to Russia. But I don't know what else. I mean, it's an incredibly interesting topic, isn't it? Because it's such an obvious apparently, in Gaza, I mean, that's starvation is is policy there, isn't it?
You know? Yeah. I mean, this is so overreaching. It's we just saw aid workers who are handing out food to, you know, the Palestinians getting, you know, blown apart by, Israeli forces. So food is a weapon at every single level.
You know, it's it's the the air we breathe at this at this moment. But you and you're connecting it to energy because you is it right that you've got a a series a a documentary series called energy slash empire? Correct. And you presumably, you link that to food because then we need energy. What can you tell us about that documentary series and and, what it's about?
Sure. So it's a 5 part series, and it explores different topics and different people, particularly 2 island nations, Cuba and Sri Lanka. And then it explores the role of people like Vandana Shiva and Robert f Kennedy junior, who's running for president in the United States, and the roles that they've played in these countries in particular to impose certain regulations on food and energy, to undermine the sovereignty of these nations and to play a geopolitical game, that is ultimately against, the human race and, human progress. Oh, we we we could get to newsbreak in a in a few seconds. But are you saying RFK did this?
Because he's supposed to be a kind of progressive hero. Is he I mean, he doesn't have that kind of position, does he, to to impose stuff on Cuba, does he? Oh, no. He absolutely does. He does.
Oh, he does? Okay. Went to Cuba. We'll leave we'll leave him that cliffhanger. RFK is a sort of hero of centrists everywhere because he's neither Trump, and he's not he's a youngster in the US presidential race at the at the stripling, a child at the age of 70 and very popular with independence.
He is apparently a villain. We'll get back to that after a very quick news break. This is the Pela Neerof Taylor show on TNT News Talk. TNT Radio News. Mary, we Your station for news.
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Right. Welcome back to the Pelini Rossello Show on this Monday afternoon. We're very pleased to have Fox Green with us. He's an independent filmmaker and journalist and podcast host. And he's made a part 5 part series about energy and how RFK is a kind of villain in some of that episode series.
Why is RFK? In what in what way has he done bad things? Well, the easiest entry point is to look at his record on nuclear energy. He has been a destructive force for nuclear energy here in the United States, but also internationally. And that's why the film focuses, on the first part on Cuba because he did go to Cuba, in the early nineties with his brother, in an effort to get Cuba, the Cuban government, to abandon their nuclear energy project that they had started with the USSR.
But as we all know, the USSR collapsed in the early nineties, and, their relationship with Cuba fell apart. Right? They could no longer economically become a trade partner and and support you know, have a a cooperative relationship. So this plant that was helped, you know, start started by the Soviets, was was abandoned. And the US sent a delegation, with RFK and his brother to say, you know what?
You guys don't need nuclear energy. You guys can just burn off, bio biomass to make up for the lost energy that would have been created for this from this nuclear plant. And as most people know or maybe they don't know, Cuba underwent a a special period, is what they called it, a special period where they had basically an energy famine in the country. They didn't have enough food. They had rationing.
And lots of people like to blame it on communism and say, see, this is why communism doesn't work and everyone, you know, who becomes a communist ultimately fails. But what they don't realize with this the story behind the picture the picture behind the story is that there are certain people who convince the government to abandon, high energy density projects, such as the Holgera nuclear plant, which, you know, they they tried to restart, with Putin a few years back. Mhmm. But the the US put its put its thumb down on that as well. Mhmm.
So here's a nation of people who are just trying to develop and create sovereignty for their people, create wealth and energy, and we have people from the US saying no. Now RFK has has a a strong history of stopping nuclear energy from being built and shutting it down right here in New York state in my backyard. I live in the Hudson Valley about 2 hours north of New York City. There was a nuclear power plant called Indian Point, which produced a quarter of the energy for New York City. And then this is clean energy that supposedly all the environmentalists love so much.
Clean energy that produces no c o two emissions. RFK was head of an organization called Riverkeeper. Mhmm. This was his career before he became a politician. You know, people usually know him for his anti vaccine advocacy, but he is an environmentalist.
And a big part of his role as a environmental lawyer has been to litigate, firm energy sources in order to shut them down. So he was successful in shutting down a major one of the probably the biggest power plant in New York state. So, part of what he what he does is he shuts down firm energy, not only internationally, but at home. We have the same enemy. This is this is what, the documentary is trying to get across is that the enemy is not left or right or communist or socialist or capitalist or whatever.
It's people who are trying to stop the development of nations and the ability for people to do work to build society Mhmm. In a manner that will make everyone healthy, happy, prosperous, and live wonderful. I think what you that story about RFK is a real eye opener. You've got a real scoop there. I mean, I follow the US non mainstream media quite closely, and, you know, he's a bit of a hero and regarded as a truth teller.
And I'm very pro nuclear, and it's real surprise. And, I I can't resist telling this joke because it features his uncle, I guess it was, Ted Kennedy. And the joke is more people died at Chappaquiddick than at Three Mile Island. As somebody who's been to Chappaquiddick, yes, I'm I'm very aware of the the all the ghosts that live there, and that's a really good talking point. I'm gonna I'm gonna start using that because it's absolutely true.
You're welcome to steal it. George Pequiddick is, of course, Ted Kennedy for a non non American audience is a place of bridge, I think, in in Massachusetts or somewhere where Ted Kennedy was the younger brother of JFK and, and, RFK's uncle. When the young man who was drunk, I think he crashed the car and his secretary or girlfriend or something. She died at the back because he didn't open the door for her when the book. Anyways, and Harrisburg, well, Three Mile Island is a nuclear power plant, which actually contributed to the fact that all over Europe, there was a closure of power plants based on this kind of fake idea that Harrisburg, Three Mile Island was some terrible nuclear disaster.
And even very educated people, get this completely wrong just as they get Chernobyl completely wrong. I mean, even even though that was the worst nuclear disaster in history, the number of people who died was in the dozens, and then they had some thyroid cancers. But I mean, it's far less than the number of people who died in coal coal mines every year in China. But anyway, what, so what is your conclusion then when in you've got you've got this 5 part series. What do you want the takeaway message to be when people have seen it, and what do you want them to think?
I want them to reframe how we look at the world and geopolitics. Right? Is that we see a world divided where it's our nations versus their nations. And this is a game that's played to keep people of the world apart, to try to say, well, what they want is different from what they what we want, and we're all fundamentally different. But the the the truth of the matter is that most people just want peace, prosperity.
Most people do not want war, whether it's military conflicts or economic warfare. Most people just wanna work hard and create a better world for their children. And the powers that be want to muddy the waters and make us think that countries like Russia and China are fundamentally opposed to, the western hegemony and that we need to be the bullies of the world and keep everyone else from doing their thing. And fearmongering about China has gotten insane because China is presenting a different paradigm to the world. China is with belts and road initiative, World Land Bridge.
They're helping the rest of the world develop, and that is fundamentally different from what we've seen from the Anglo American perspective that has been running the world with America as its bulldog since the 20th century. We did not win World War 2. The Nazis were simply trans transmuted into new institutions, predominantly NATO, which is what we see today. And this Anglo American empire really needs to end. We need we need a reorganization of of world, you know, infrastructure where the power of nations can come together.
Yep. Just to we we gotta wind up there. We can find your stuff on space commune.com, foxggreen on Twitter stroke x. And your 5 part series, is that available on YouTube or some other video channel somewhere? Yep.
It's available on Rumble and YouTube, on BitChute. The first part is out. Next 5 parts or 4 parts, sorry, are coming out over the course of the year. So if you wanna support us in helping produce those, we would appreciate that greatly. Alright.
So I highly recommend you're looking at food, you're looking at energy, and you are tying it together. And in this idea that sort of we don't really need to fight at all. And at the same time, which is, I guess, you're sort of leftist. You're very quite you're quite pro nuclear, which I am too, and I always have been. So, check that out on Rumble and Fox G Green on Twitter x.
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Pella Neroth Taylor. Live from. On today's news talk, TNT. Welcome back to the Pella Neurath Taylor show on this Monday afternoon. Our final guest today is doctor Shankara Shetty who treated 14,000 patients suffering from COVID.
None of them, 0.0%. Required hospitalization. No oxygen. No deaths. No need for COVID injection, sometimes called the death vaxx.
They came from all over South Africa all over his neighborhood in South Africa to consult him, old, young, infirm, and chronically sick. Those with comorbidities such as obesity, diabetes, or heart problems, all of them came and none of them died. So he has this doctor has decades of experience in rural health, which he built on an impeccable reputation found on a passion for his work, a deep knowledge and understanding of his profession. He honors the Hippocratic oath, which says, first, do no harm. Well, he certainly didn't do any harm, but this was not good for the Health Professional Council of South Africa, which charged him and asked him to attend the disciplinary inquiry last year.
According to Shankara's claims, he says that it made a complete mockery of his fundamental human rights and the South African constitution. He was accused of unprofessional conduct and contravene ethical rules which required healthcare practitioners to only use health technologies which have been proven. Doctor. Shakaaraj Chetty, thank you for joining us on this show. What a story.
So you've saved fantastic, you've done a fantastic job. You're one of those COVID heroes, but you fell foul of the authorities because you didn't follow their rules. Tell us your story from the beginning. I I took the opportunity when COVID, started in the world to try and understand the illness, what we what we were dealing with, the information out there. And very early on, pillow, I realized that we have an insert in the virus.
That means it was made in a lab, and I expected to see some unusual pathology with it. And I thought the only way to solve the problem would be to examine the patient and figure out how they were getting to that demise to try and negate it. I found very, very early on that we were dealing with the biophasic illness. People were getting the virus and recovering from it. But there was a small subset who again took a turn after recovering from the initial viral illness.
And that turn seemed to occur exactly a week after the initial onset of the illness. So that week brought on a period of recovery, and then suddenly a week later, there was a subset that suddenly worsened again. That worsening was very sudden, very aggressive, and led to a decompensation very quickly. Now there are only 2 things that can do that to you pathophysiologically. One's a severe allergic reaction to an allergen, and the other is an exposure to a venom.
And if you don't treat either quickly, timeously, and aggressively, you'll have that patient run into problems. And so I understood this. I started treating it as such as an allergic process that was triggered by some sort of viral debris. And in doing that, I got great success. I had people recover overnight.
And, of course, when you treat a bee sting, it's, it's quick, an aggressive treatment, and you get quick recovery from it. In seeing that, I knew I'm dealing with something unusual. And of course, my my radar was out on the spike protein, which was part of that insert on the virus. And I thought, well, we're dealing with an insert, something new, and people that weren't exposed to this would probably react. In the second wave, I identified that, viral debris or protein that was triggering reaction to spike protein.
Now being spike protein, I spoke out that spike protein is the primary pathogen of COVID illness. It's not the virus. We're chasing the wrong thing. And, of course, using spike protein as the base of a mRNA vaccine campaign seem nonsensical. You are putting the pathogen in people.
You're getting the people's bodies to make a pathogen. And I expected that the vaccine campaign will see the same kind of illnesses we saw with COVID, but far more extreme. And so in early in late 2020, I started speaking out against the vaccine that I expect that it's going to cause damage. The rest of the charges against me, where where where about my opinion, seeing how the pandemic unfolded. Mhmm.
If it if this was at that point, I knew it was a lab made virus, and, of course, there might be the possibility of a lab leak. If it was, we would have reacted in a particular way, try to confine it, contain it, don't make a huge issue of it. But if it was intentional to be released and cause fear around the world with an agenda, then you would heighten the problem, make it bigger than it actually is. And that's what I saw happening. I also have people not listening, not willing to listen to what I was saying.
So I knew that we had an emergency use authorization coming up for the vaccine, and my early treatment would negate that. And so I understood the push to keep me silent until the vaccine came out. Mhmm. Mhmm. The second thing that, that, brought my attention to this being nefarious, there was no, there were I had absolutely no doubt that we were dealing with the toxic substance in spike protein.
And the fact that it was put into a vaccine, that's that was a very bad omen. Now knowing something is toxic is one thing. Seeing someone to take something that's toxic is a criminal act. And so I waited for the mandates. I knew once they've mandated the vaccine, I could prove a criminal act.
Mhmm. And so once the vaccine mandates came out, I started speaking out. I thought humanity was at risk, and I needed to tell them what I thought. Sorry if I missed something, but, yeah, we'll we'll we'll go on to your to your the effects of your speaking out and the unpopularity must have garnered in certain circles. But what was the reason for your the 0% hospitalization?
Did I just miss that or what? Absolutely gripping gripping story, but I, Yeah. Well, I think I think, Kerin, the understanding of what caused the problem gave me the success. You gotta treat what's in front. So I took the time to understand the illness, to understand what was happening.
And, of course, people say, oh, you didn't do you didn't register for clinical trials and the rest. I had sick patients in front of me that we're gonna die, and I needed to step up and solve that problem. Now as simple case in point, I knew that these patients presenting back on that 8th day were having the 2nd phase responded to steroids. We knew steroids could be used in this illness. And so I put them on steroids, and I saw in the first 4 or 5 patients, it took 4 or 5 days for them to improve completely, get their oxygen sets up, feel a lot better.
And then I thought, well, if I'm dealing with an allergic process, let me try an antihistamine and see whether that actually makes a difference. And so I put the 5th patient on a dose of Fennebib, And the next day, she was perfectly fine. The speed to recovery improved immensely. Now with that, I took her off it the following day, and she worsened. I put her back on it.
She improved. Clearly proving an antihistamine was beneficial and proving that my theory that this is likely to be an allergy is likely true. And that was the start. I couldn't not do that for the next patient. Mhmm.
And so that was a simple clinical trial. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yes.
A steroids and then antihistamines. And did that was that your consistent method, of cure? Did that work for all of them or were Yes. Only for some of them? Yes.
I I when I realized that we're dealing with an allergic process, then you, from the pathophysiology, understand that you're getting this flood of mediators being released by the trigger in this process and you've got to mop up all those mediators and turn off the tap. The steroid stops the reaction, and then you've got to mop up what's released to prevent any further injury. And so it's the antihistamine. And when you talk antihistamine, there's different antihistamines for the gut and different antihistamines for the respiratory tract to choose the right one. I added montelukast.
Montelukast addresses leukotrienes that are released, and I added as aspirin addresses platelet activating factor. With that combination of medications, antistamines, montelukast, aspirin, and, of course, the steroid is short course to to stop the process. Everyone recovered. And so there is no need to do anything else. And what's more incredible is that a medical illiterate like me, you've explained it in a very exciting and very clear way.
But I just gotta ask because I did a lot of, reading up at the time and, I actually came down to South Africa. I did a story on something. I brought back with me lots of Ivermectin because you could get that prescribed more easily. Here in Europe, they they stop stuff at customs if you order it. They're very, very restrictive in Europe.
And, but anyway, I mean, does does Ivermectin also work? Yeah. Actually, Ivermectin yeah. After Ivermectin became a part of my understanding very early on in the pandemic epidemic. I think it was about May 2020.
I'd read an article that said ivermectin might be of benefit in this pandemic. I understood the, the pathophysiology, and I understood where Ivermectin could be of benefit. You see just just a background on Ivermectin. When we had antiparasitics previously untreated filarial, which is a lung parasite, the parasite died. But the dead parasite triggered an allergic response in the lung, and the host died of the allergy to the dead parasite.
So here, I'm dealing with the dead virus. Now Ivermectin has an immunomodulatory benefit. So it became the gold standard for treating filarial because it suppressed that allergic reaction as well. So I thought I'm dealing with a dead parasite or a dead virus in the lung. Maybe Ivermectin would curve that, response, and it did.
But it wasn't the mainstay of the treatment. I don't think it addressed COVID completely because a lot of people progressed long COVID after that. Right. Okay. I mean, have you your your solution, does have you because let let's say even ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, there's an interesting website that links to literally hundreds of papers on these things, hydroxychloroquine and, and Ivermectin.
And of course, the big clinical trials, there's one in Oxford, one carried out by the WHO. They were canceled after this fraudulent article in The Lancet, which is one of the world's most famous medical journals. I mean, I don't know who put that out there, but it's utterly corrupt. Anyway, they stopped it. But anyway, a lot of papers have been published.
And to me as a sort of I did science at school, A levels, and then mathematics and philosophy of science at university. So I know a little bit of my way around academic papers looks pretty convincing to me. Has anyone done a kind of, trials or research onto your solution, which sounds it's easy to understand the way you explain it to me, but obviously, you would benefit from, some kind of scientific backing. I did publish an academic peer reviewed paper, an observational and clinical tour of COVID early on in the pandemic just to get the information out there and get the scientific debate going, point direction to research. Subsequently, I've had a professor from Texas University.
Look at my work. Look. There's no point analyzing 14,000 patients who survived COVID. That doesn't tell us anything. So what I did was I gave him the case where I used an antihistamine to prove that it worked.
It showed benefit. Subsequently, antihistamines have been shown to be of great benefit in COVID, and there's published papers on antihistamines, montadukast, aspirin, high dose steroids. All of them have been shown in the research to be beneficial. I also gave him 20 of my most severe cases where I have blood results to prove that they improved. Telling someone that a patient had an oxygen saturation can be disputed.
You can't dispute blood results. I've got patients who came to me, those 20 cases, with interleukin six values, over 85 is considered to be critically ill. I've had patients come to me with interleukin values of 400, and I've had it back down to normal within a week with this kind of treatment. So it shows how severe they were when they presented and it shows how time you sleep they recovered within a week with no hospitalizations, no need for anything extraneous. Just a simple protocol and monitoring them to their point of recovery.
So I've had articles, other articles published about my work, researched, looked into the pathophysiology. I've also, helped the government, Megalaya, North of India. And, in August 2021, they were at the height of the delta wave. And they were having on average around 200 and 50 to 300 deaths a month from that that wave, where previous to the wave, they were having 5 to 10 deaths a month. So it suddenly spiked.
And I was called in in August that year to train the rural doctors. I had already trained the ICU staff just before that. And with training those rural doctors within a month or a month and a half, we brought that 300 death rate down to single to double digits. I think in the next month they had 30 deaths and the month after it was 8. And then after that too now they're counting it in every 3 months because they're not having as many deaths now approved in that country that a country nationwide implementation of the strategy can curb all the hospitalizations and deaths.
Why it wasn't followed? I think there was an agenda. So, well, this is a fantastic story. And, I mean, really, a sort of good news story, but tragic in a way because of, all the things that weren't done if they followed your advice. Really, really, really interesting.
But, of course, you fell foul somehow of the South African because you're based in South Africa. The South African health authorities tell us about your conflict with them and how it's, played out. I think, the South African Health Professions Council, they have their financing from some corporates that have an agenda in this. They needed to silence me. I was going against the narrative, according to them creating vaccine hesitancy.
So they've questioned my views on the vaccine. I've mentioned that I think this is a bioweapon. It was intended to kill, intended to harm. They question my views on the pathophysiology of covid and the treatment. So it covers everything about the pandemic.
Now they brought me to court hoping they would silence me. That ain't gonna happen. Where we are at the moment, the the charges that they brought don't match the original complaint. And the complaint was laid by a complainant that is conflicted in this matter. A professor that, is supplying the government with tears is part of a ministerial committee.
So rather than shut me up, you should be you should be debating me. Sure. So they brought the charges. We sent it back saying that the charges don't fit the crime. I gave them the opportunity to reformulate the charges.
I want my opportunity. I don't wanna win on a technicality. So where we sit now is that they brought a whole range of new charges, and those charges have proved conclusively that there's prejudice against me by counsel. So I'm planning to take those charges to the high court and have this case seen in the high court so that my testimonies and witness testimonies become, sets precedent for cases going forward. Sets precedent for cases going forward.
Doctor Chetty, we'll end on a sort of a personal note, because we've got 3, 2 and a half minutes left. If what you're saying is correct, steroids, antihistamines, aspirin, and a fourth thing I just missed, is the solution to this health crisis, which has kind of devastated the world and changed our whole political and social system. If you're right, you've you've just kind of given away the formula for this. Do you not regret? I mean, you could is there any way you could monetize this?
Or are you doing it for the good of humanity? Or how do you feel about that? No, Paolo. It's a I think it's a calling. It's for humanity.
My aim from the start was to share the knowledge. When I published the paper, when I wrote the paper, it was in May 2020. I gave it to everyone. I sent it to the minister of health. I I didn't care if it was published.
I didn't care about the acknowledgment. This the acknowledgment. This was something that could save lives and every person on the planet needed to know that. And so that was my mission to share it with everyone. And with the case coming up, I don't care the outcome.
I think more it's an opportunity to hear truth. And so I want my opportunity to speak and narrate my journey through COVID so that people can be enlightened, and this will never happen again. Doctor Chetty, where can we find your papers and where can we find your your tweets or your where we can keep you updated on the South Africa, author case with the authorities and, interesting to read testimonies and, what other people have said because I'm sure there'll be a lot of interested parties who are trying to put you down and we want to be able to support you in this quest. So just, we've got about a minute left. Give us some some connections so we can people can carry on following you.
We we're covering it on Twitter. So you can follow the case on Twitter. I've have a friend of mine, Shabnam Palisa Mohammed, who's an attorney and an activist. She's posting constantly on Twitter and the ongoings of the case itself. So Twitter would be the ideal place.
We're also trying to highlight what's going on in radio interviews and things like that. I have a website, doctor shankarachetti.com.drshankarachetti com. You can go there and you'll see a lot of information. I'm also on YouTube a lot. Mhmm.
And, on this coming Sunday, 2 o'clock South Africa time, we want to host a Twitter Spaces, meeting where we can get everyone around the world to have an open discussion about where we need to go. Okay. Doctor Shankar Roychetti, thank you very, very much. Incredibly interesting story about how COVID can be beaten with relatively simple and easily available medicines, but which has put a lot of people's noses out of joint. But 0% mortality, you can't argue with that.
Doctor Shankarachotty, I'll just spell it out, s h aankarachety, and that's, the website. You just add dot com. Thank you very much, sir. Very interesting talk. This is Apelon Eiroff Tele Show.
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