FAQ : Developing Your Healing Relationship With Dimitri

Navigating through calm waters on your journey 

Frequently Asked Questions

I want to breakthrough, what's the quickest, cheapest way of achieving this? 

Sadly, this is a very common question, and one which I believe exposes a detrimental breakdown of information transfer within the community.  Be aware that there's no common definition of a breakthrough, everyone has their own. And be under no illusion - if you think that the pinnacle of Dimitri experiences awaits those who could only dose high enough then you will probably be heading towards some extremely difficult trips, and an early termination of your association with the medicine

What's the best way to use Dimitri?

By "best" I mean an approach that minimises the chance of negative trips, minimises anxiety levels, heart palpitations/rate (and I suspect blood pressure) increases, whilst maximising the positive effects. We're all different but for me, this means observing the guidelines described in my video and on this page, the section "Using The Intensity Levels Incrementally".  If anyone introducing you to the medicine claims otherwise, then your best interests may not be their top priority

The gradual approach Is hogwash, why are you saying we should do it? 

I'm not saying how anyone should do anything, and how you conduct your trips is your business entirely. It's something that works very well for me and I'm sure has helped keep my trips extremely positive. It might also work for you but there's no guarantee, it's simply another option which you may wish to be aware of

Hang on, why can't I just dive straight into a high intensity trip?  

If you're a noob who's never vaped, then it's unlikely you'd be able to handle the vapour temperature/concentration needed to reach higher levels, and epic coughing would likely result.  But this issue aside, yes of course you can dive into whatever level you are able to reach, but it's not something I recommend. This is exactly what I used to do every time and often all was fine, albeit with far more anxiety/heart rate increase.  However, after considerable experimentation I now find that by using the gradual approach I have a much higher proportion of blissful euphoric trips, whilst greatly minimising negative effects

I've heard there's no such thing as a "bad trip", and the medicine always shows us what we need to know 

I definitely disagree, and will do all in my power to avoid negative trips - I suggest you do the same.  For one example, burning coils on d-juice methods can IME trigger ghastly demonic trips and a painful persistent headache for weeks afterwards. Impossible to see how this and other negative experiences can be beneficial. I personally only accept Dimitri as a truly loving and forgiving experience, taking anything different as a sign of something unproductive & best avoided  

How often can I use Dimitri?  

That depends on you & your individual circumstances. Personally, if I'm not testing kit etc, then I'd tend to aim for a monthly L3 session (i.e. several gentle pre-trips of gradually increasing intensity, leading to one or more Level 3 trips) with gentler trips weekly or thereabouts.  However, there have been periods (for example testing for YouTube videos),  where I've used L3 sessions (and higher) most mid-week nights for months on end, and I once kept this up for almost an entire year.  I would never repeat this and definitely don't recommend such excesses. I seem to have recovered fully from the adverse side-effects but you might not be so lucky with even a quarter of my overuse.  

What happens if I use It too frequently over a period of months/years?  

Again I can only speak for myself, but during my year of irresponsible excess (see above) I noted the following ...

As a result I took a 4 month break, which returned all to normal except the "wavy head".  When I started filtering my djuice, and then started using dptek extraction (video here), which for me renders filtering unneccessary, the head feeling began returning to normal.  Nowadays it is completely healed, thank goodness. 

Are there any long-term health issues?  

Unfortunately, info on this is largely anecdotal/uncertain.  One potential issue relates to heart valve damage or "Drug-induced valvular heart disease " which has been linked to other 5-hydroxytryptamine2B (5-HT2B) receptor agonist drugs.  As far as I can tell this seems to have been initially noticed from certain appetite surpressant medications (possibly since taken off the market) but has now also been linked to MDMA use.  As far as I'm aware this hasn't yet been associated with DMT but this could change in the future. For reference see ..

Possible association between 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine abuse and valvular heart disease

Valvular heart disease induced by drugs

I've also seen regular reports of Dimitri use triggering tinnitus, or making exisiting tinnitus far more noticeable. I have certainly experienced this during the last few years, (oddly only in my left ear), although I have no idea whether this is related to Dimitri use.

Also see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33242285/ 

Perhaps less alarmingly,  regarding daily use or more over a period of a week or more, I find I have a constant feeling of needing to clear my thoat and my breathing is very slightly wheezy.  A short break has been an effective remedy 

Can I listen to music whilst tripping?

I'd certainly suggest testing out some music during tripping, for me the right kind can direct the experience in an extremely positive and even entheogenic way as well as maintaining a reassuring link back to the real world.  I'd suggest testing any tracks out at lower intensity levels first because to my ears, some music than seems calm & relaxing when "sober" can sound frenetic and unpleasantly jarring whilst tripping. I have several playlists but so far only Enya and Mimi Page make it onto my "L3 playlist".  But when I get the music and tripping intensity into my sweet zone, the sound feels unimaginably majestic like it's filling the entire universe, I can feel every ounce of emotion in the sounds - a truly amazing and overwhelmingly beautiful experience.  At levels higher than L3, music can be less pleasant with a few seconds of the track missing, tempo slowing down (or even speeding up), volume fluctuations, very tinny sound, harsh ripping and other interruptions.  Some of these effects can actually be quite disconcerting.   Of course, not everyone is musically oriented, plus individual tastes vary so much.

Can I use Dimitri recreationally, i.e. for "fun"?

You alone decide your boundaries, I'm not aware of any hard and fast rules on the 'how's or 'why's, but I'm sure many would agree it's easy to use Dimitri in ways that risk negative consequences. I'd suggest utmost caution and respect, using only in a totally secure & safe environment, and becoming totally comfortable with any intensity level before exploring it in a different setting.

I've just suffered a breakup/bereavement/other personal crisis, is it best to avoid Dimitri until my life settles?  

I would suggest great caution but again this is something only you can answer because we all have such different personalities, circumstances, and reactions to Dimitri.  For myself, I tend to avoid Dimitri sessions or at least wait until I have sufficient time to ensure even more caution for the gradual approach as decribed on these pages. And I'll be doubly careful not to go in deeper unless I'm getting an unequivocal feeling of welcome from the molecule

What are intentions and should I set them for each trip? 

Some find it helpful to meditate on or at least think about certain questions/problems/predicaments/etc that they would like the molecule to help provide clarifications or similar. Personally,  I prefer to rely completely on Dimitri to guide me without any pre-considered thoughts.  Of course, you may be very different so it might be worth at least testing this out to see if it suits you.

Dimitri trips are very short, can I extend them somehow?  

At lower intensity levels, it's generally viable simply to take top-up tokes when the effect starts to fade.  However another way is to dose an MAOI (e.g. syrian rue or freebase harmalas) some time before vaping (known as vapourhuasca), and is my favourite way of using the medicine.  However, reasearch will be needed before attempting as well as much caution. I released a video about how I do this , and although it's a few years old I still do almost exactly the same nowadays (I now use ejuice methods instead of "the machine" as was shown).

Can I dose dimitri orally, like a tablet?  

Yes, it's known as pharmahuasca.  However you won't normally feel any psychedelic effect from dosing freebase Dimitri alone apart from bloating and nausea, to make it orally active it must be consumed some time after dosing an MAOI. To reduce nausea, some report success by dissolving the freebase in a weak acid like lemon juice or 5% vinegar and dosing this.  However, the only way I've found to eliminate gastric discomfort is to orally dose the fumarate form of Dimitri (made using FASA process) and not the freebase.

How do I persuade my partner/sibling/friend to try Dimitri?  

The short answer is you don't.  Not everyone will benefit from this medicine and we can't assume the same positive effects will apply to anyone else. Instead, consider respecting the choices of others following their own life journeys, irrespective of whether this involves taking on board your ideas & principles.

My Dad's in his 80s and seems keen to try my vape, is this a bad idea?  

One problem with this for me is that a friend who's 70 (and has managed hypertension for some years) reports that vaping Dimitri raises his blood pressure to extremely high levels, at times verging on critical. So for this reason alone I'd suggest great caution with your Dad, and to be frank I wouldn't want to redline a high mileage engine too often. If things go pear shaped, you've lost your Dad, and the police will want a quiet word.  Only you will be able to gauge the risk and decide if it's worth any potential benefits

How do I obtain a reliable supply of good quality affordable Dimitri?  

I suggest learning to extract your own from mimosa hostilis root bark.  This is a relatively simple process, akin to baking a cake, and all ingredients are readily available in most countries.  There are several techniques (teks) to achieve this, the one I'd recommend is our own community "dptek", see here for the details , and a video showing how to do this is here  Note: the entire site is disguised as a promotion for a quack detergent additive.  

What's the best vape tool for Dimitri?  

Different vape tools suit different individual requirements, and all have pros and cons. Here is a simplified quick-comparison table ..

Why is Dimitri so difficult to vape properly?  

It might feel like this if you're a noob, and especially if you're using non-recommended vape tools.  For Dimitri vaping to be effective pre-requsites include...

Things break down if any of these stages fail. Of course, there may be other reasons for lack of expected effect.

How do I overcome tripping anxiety? 

Like me, you may find that gaining mastery over tripping anxiety to be a massively rewarding process, sending out a powerful message to yourself that you remain in full control of your own free-will. I suggest following the gradual approach as described here and considering the tips & tricks outined in my video on how to overcome fear & anxiety 

Will alcohol with Dimitri help settle my nerves  

For me, it used to be an irresistable urge to reach for my Dimitri vape after a glass or two of wine. However, from my own experiences I strongly suggest avoiding combining with alcohol.  For me it kills visuals, removes magic, and enforces a shallow limit on how deep I can get. And the harder I try to push through, the more unpleasant it becomes with seemingly no limit on how ghastly the experience can get. I have heard occasional anecdotes of successful use of this combination but amost all seem to mirror my own experiences, plus with intense nausea/barfing included. If you go ahead and experiment, I'd recommend (as always) extreme caution, and starting off with small threshold L1 doses and taking it from there.

Can I build up a tolerance to vaping Dimitri?

In my experience, yes but not in the same way as oral dosing of other tryptamine-based psychedelics.  The tolerance I've noticed has been in a short and longer term sense.  Examples are ...

There are those who ignore the evidence and steadfastly deny the existence of any kind of Dimitri tolerance, IME this is nonsense. At best, this assertion may be a projection of findings on studies based upon IV injection/infusion of fumarate form of Dimitri with very limited subjects, and performed over days or even hours rather than years or decades. In short a totally different mode of how we operate and experience tolerance with Dimitri.

- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-023-02477-4.pdf

- https://maps.org/research-archive/w3pb/1996/1996_Strassman_22710_1.pdf       

Is Dimitri Addictive?  

Not in the same sense as substances such opiates, benzodiazepines or even weed.  In the early days I found that tripping fear was acting as a subconscious barrier to overuse but once I'd conquered this, plus developed incremental techniques as outlined on these pages, I enjoyed such a hugely improved relationship, totally devoid of tripping fear, that I needed to seriously rethink avoiding overuse.  Right now that boils down to sheer will power but this has never been my strong point, so I'm constantly working at it.

How Do I Accurately Dose To Specific Trip Intensity Levels?  

For levels 1 and 2, this is simple with any suitable vape tool (e.g. carts or sub ohm (either rebuildable or non-rebuildable will be fine).  Using a few gentle tokes on a lower Wattage will normally suffice, and these tools are also perfect for supplying top-up tokes without reoading.  However, when aiming for level 3 (or higher) then a hotter/more concentrated vapour will generally be required. Good vapour acclimatisation will be needed plus to avoid overshooting, proficiency with your chosen vape tool.  I'd suggest rebuildable sub ohm (non-rebuildable will work as long as great care is taken not to scorch the coils).  Emesh can also work, but in my experience the intensity reached can be somewhat unpredictable, plus the hassles of reloading can interfere with the planning of gentle warm-up trips. I'd suggest rebuildable sub ohm as the tool of choice for the gradual approach. We're currently working on "thundertek" on the Discord, which (among other things) is looking very promising for attaining desired higher levels of intensity more reliably.  Any emerging conclusions will be reported.


When I've taken a toke, how long is it best to hold the vapour in my lungs (under construction)

For efficient vaping, dimitri needs to enter the lungs in proper vapour form, absorbed by the lungs and transferred to the blood, hitching a ride on the bloodstream to reach the brain.  I have no info on the chemical processed involved but from my own pratical experience, a number of things have become apparent.