Jera Wolfe ~ The Second Death
Saturday
You know, for all your intelligence, sometimes you aren't very smart my friend.
I hope we can get back to that place you weren't threatening me and trying to control me through coercion, instead of persuasion.
Are you projecting? I don't make threats. I'm a scientist. I study Natural Law. What I told you is a Natural Law that you appear to unaware of. That's not too surprising. A lot of people are oblivious when it comes to Natural Law. In other cultures, they call it Karma.
I've seen other people in the past adopt your attitude and corresponding practice, and I've seen them go down in flames. It's just what happens when someone departs egregiously from ethical best practices.
Have you seen this new resource page yet?
Tools, tips and programs that help people stand up for each other.
In particular, here is FB's official definition of Bullying:
What Is Bullying? Bullying is any kind of repeated aggressive behavior that involves an imbalance of power such as social status or physical size. Along with physical or verbal attacks, bullying also includes making threats, spreading rumors or deliberately excluding someone from a group.
Notice that last clause of the last sentence. There is a reason that clause is there.
Now, if you honestly believe that what I just told you is a threat, then I invite you to go to that resource page and report that I raised to your attention that you are in violation of the FB Policy.
In English Grammar, look us Anankastic Conditional. The structure of an Anankastic conditional can be a statement of a Natural Law or it can be a statement of a threat, where the speaker has the power to make the outcome happen. I'm a scientist, not a politician or a policeman. I'm disclosing to you the fact that you have departed from FB policy, and that you have expressly induced Mark to depart from FB policy.
That's not an intelligent thing to do.
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Today
Innermost fears?
Bwahahah!
I would never let you know that.
Do your best to figure it out, or make it up, you do that. It's how you cope.
So, for starters, I need your deepest fears (which I don't yet know) and your backstory (which I don't yet know) and your unresolved issues (which I don't yet know), etc, etc.
Are you afraid to disclose your innermost fears?
1. Deepest Fear: Fear of Revealing Deepest Fear.
We're not that close. What makes you think I would trust you with such information, any personal information, at this junction?
There you go, use that.
See, you don't need me, you can make up my character traits all by yourself! Good on you!
Oh, you shouldn't trust me. Because if I solve for the algebraic emotional equations for the parameters of your Character Model, then you can rest assured (or perhaps unrest) that I will work out a dramatic script based on an encounter between your character (the Grudger) and mine (the Scriptwriter of Shreklisch Agonistic Dramas).
You mean Grudger vs. Bully.
But you're too old to worry about.
Go finish up your last days, and enjoy them.
Naw, I'm just a schmeggegy scientist who writes stories based on real-life experiences.
Here is one I wrote last week.
Don't care.
You're not relevant.
You missed your chance.
I'll settle for the catharsis of outliving you, and enjoying life long after you are dead.
Chance for what? To write a different story than the real one?
No, you missed your chance to be relevant.
Can I quote you on that?
If you are actually asking?
No.
Why not?
Aren't you proud of the role you play in these agonistic dramas?
That's not the reason I don't want you quoting me.
What is the honest reason?
I don't like you and don't want you quoting me.
You're a horrible person.
Are you mortified to be quoted saying that I'm a horrible person? I think that's a fabulous quote from you.
No.
And I'd like to attribute it to the Grudger who articulated it.
It has nothing to do with mortification.
You don't think it's a fabulous quote?
Absolutely, I just don't want you quoting me.
This isn't hard to understand.
Oh, what does it have to do with?
The fact I don't want you quoting me, mostly.
Why not? You haven't given me a reason.
Yes I did. I said I don't want you quoting me.
That's a reason.
Because you're a horrible person, and I don't like you.
That's the reason for the reason.
But I want to quote you. This is the True Story of My Life, and you're in it.
And that's based on your treatment of people we both know, there's the basis for the whole edifice.
It makes perfect fucking simple sense.
If you quote me, you're not doing it with my permission. I honestly think you're gonna do it anyways, because you're a shitlord.
That's not a good enough reason. I really do want to write the story about you expressing your fabulous judgment about me.
So I won't lose any sleep over it either.
But if you're asking, and you did, my answer is 'No'.
Well, OK. I'll do it without your permission, then.
I'm sorry you feel that's not a good enough reason.
I figured as much.
I mean, if you had an authentic reason, I'd consider it. But I don't seem have an authentic reason that I can understand.
That's the cheater-fuck I expect from you!
I did.
I said it.
You didn't accept it.
Because you're an asshole.
A horrible person, like I said.
Ooh! Yet another fabulous quote. I like that one even better.
There you go then!
Can you give me a comprehensive list of epithets? I don't want to leave any of them out.
No.
You don't have a comprehensive list?
Can you be a decent human being?
Is that within your purview?
Could be dangerous, Jera. You go first.
Nope.
I'm much happier playing the waiting game. I win in the end.
I need a role model. Can you be my role model for being a decent human being?
You decline to be a role model for a decent human being? Aw shucks.
You know what's worse than suffering the second death, your name forgotten, your deeds unsung?
Pissing off a writer who will make sure it doesn't happen... Chaucer-like.
Do you worry about that for yourself?
From you?
Do you worry about the Second Death for your own life?
No, I outlive you, I have plenty of free time to fix any minor damage you do, and you really aren't that relevant as a writer or a person to affect many people.
So... no, I don't really worry it.
Do I worry it about myself?
Are you then looking forward to it?
It's possible, but I doubt it will be for a long, long time after I've lived that people will forget my name.
I think I can fix it for both of us.
You'll both be dead and forgotten before I actually die.
To ensure that our names are not forgotten.
Dream big, Barry, keep dreaming big.
Oh, that's what's different about us.
I have time still.
You don't.
You're going to be dead and forgotten.
I won't.
I don't have that good an imagination. I work from material drawn from real life.
We won't be remembered together, unless you really want to ride my coattails to historical relevance.
That's an interesting feat, if you can pull it off.
Maybe we will and maybe we won't. It depends on how good a script you can come up with, as I have no imagination in that regard.
Well, that's your problem now, innit?
Not really. You solved it for me.
Well, if you can pull it off, go for it.
You handed me the script on a silver platter. For which I am eternally grateful.
So I have a question for you.
Why the big lie?
Which statement?
The one about your work in ToM being important to you.
That only came about after you got blocked from it.
Oh, all my work is important to me.
Then why did you lie and tell me it wasn't?
I wasn't expecting it to be purloined and sequestered.
Then really, its your fault.
It was and is important.
To be honest, I didn't expect that either.
Not that you've ever given a fuck in how you've treated me since.
But if it means anything, it wasn't my intention to cut you off from your stuff.
See, that was an unexpected turn of events. A Breach of Expectations.
But I had enough foresight to check with you to see if it was valuable
And you told me it wasn't.
So...
Then you got mad at me like a little bitch, and are now throwing a hindsight tantrum and all that.
When did I say that? I have no recollection of ever saying that.
We had a convo before I talked to Mark.
Eleven months ago?
You had mentioned that you didn't even know what the point of the group was, and I asked you about your contribution, and you made it clear you didn't value it highly.
When was this?
You were frustrated, and I understand why, in that group.
But you were taking it out on the group.
Go look up our old chats.
Give me a key word or phrase to go on.
Anyways, you should be more careful about what you take for granted in the future, at least, when sharing your value estimations with others explicitly asking.
I just remember the gist of it, it wasn't worth saving the details.
Shit man, you think you're that fucking important in my life?
Ha!
Ah well, it is sorta humorous, watching you, in hindsight.
I learned a lot about you.
About how petty you are, about how you negotiate, about how you deal with being in a position where you don't have the power to force someone else...
You're pretty fucking cowardly, resorting to threats and such.
Instead of compromising, or cooperating, expecting others to live by your expectations and values, and insulting them when they don't give into your demands.
Very childish.
I used to respect you.
I have the old chat loaded in a window. What am I supposed to be looking for, that you have in mind?
I'm glad you corrected me on that.
So glad.
Take care, Barry. I'm going to eat some Breakfast, may be back in a bit if you're up to chatting more, and being insulted further. But I really do urge you to just go enjoy what's left of your pathetic life.
Cheers.
OK. I'll get to work on our latest script, then.
You really have no life do you?
Only the life you give me.
How prophetic.
Keep it up, and I will go out of my way to make sure History remembers you.
You are doing a fabulous job, so far.
Thank you.
You're welcome. I'll share half the royalties with you, if there are any.
Why don't you try being nice?
At the moment, I think you are a petty and mean person. You're threatening me.
I'm not going to help you.
Go play your power games with someone weaker. You are absolutely and utterly irrelevant in my life.
And you only have a few more years till you are dead.
Why do I need your help? I forget?
You wanted my help with Mark.
You know, I could just make you an admin, and let you get your stuff.
But you see, you're too petty to trust like that.
Oh. I no longer need your help with Mark.
Okay, then fuck off.
Your'e a horrible person.
Later.
Have a nice day, Jera.
You too, Barry.
Oh, and if you want to leave STEAMers Tavern, I'm totally okay with that.
Feel free to just opt out of that at your earliest, that would be great, thanks.
No thank you. I am happy to be there.
Well, you'll die soon, either way, and the world will be rid of one more horrible person.
Will you promise to come dance on my grave?
No, I'm going to waste as little energy, time, and thought on you as possible.
I dislike you, but you aren't worth my enmity, really.
Are you not wasting that time now?
You're irrelevant in any meaningful way.
Not really.
This is not a waste of your time?
A few cycles, I suppose. But I do give out basic human respect to everyone who holds the form of human.
You just asked that.
No.
Explain to me why I need your respect?
You don't.
You're going to die soon.
You're 71, and there's no stopping it.
How is that related to my needing or not needing respect from you?
Shortly after that, you will be forgotten.
How do you propose to forget me?
What have you done to make you worth remembering?
Yeah, I couldn't think of anything either.
You have a great day, you know, since you only have so many.
The saddest thing is, we coulda been friends. I tried. But you're a shitlord.
Why do I need you as a friend? I don't understand why I would need a friend like you.
How would it benefit me to befriend you?
You didn't want me as a friend. Your question is both stupid and irrelevant.
I'm certain you have enough friends that you're not needy enough to require another.
Still.. basic human things, you wouldn't understand.
Even after 71 years, you wouldn't understand.
For all your intelligence, you're pretty fucking stupid.
Go do things until you die, stop asking me dumb-fuck questions.
I don't understand why I would want you as a friend. Can you explain to me why I would want you as a friend? How would it benefit me to have you as a friend?
You're lack of understanding isn't really my problem is it?
I don't understand your problem.
I was merely being wistful, trust me, I know now we wouldn't get along. You're a petty, whiney intellectual bully.
What is the name of your problem that I don't yet understand?
I don't have a problem.
I just hate fucking bullies. Especially those that double as whiney-ass bitches.
You meet the criteria for both.
None at all? How remarkable! You must be the only person on the planet without one. How did you manage to get through life without any problems?
You fall under extreme distaste, if I can spend a little energy in my day to make you a bit more miserable, I will. Consider it Karma.
That wasn't your question, dumb-fuck. YOU aren't my problem.
Does it please you to make others miserable?
Nor are your problems my concern.
Do you consider yourself clever? Because this is really immature and lame.
Only those who deserve it.
Why are you concerned with the challenge of making me miserable?
Those who threaten, coerce, and disabuse others, especially those who are less intelligent or quick in rhetoric as they are.
For their own lack of self-confidence, to make themselves feel better. People like you.
Did you mean abuse or disabuse?
It's not really a challenge. You aren't really reading my statements. I'll say it slow.
Maybe we can turn it into a duet.
If I can spend a little energy, at an available opportunity, to dampen your day... then I will.
I'm not going out of my way for it.
You aren't that relevant.
To anyone, really.
Let me see if we can fashion that sentiment into a duet.
Nah, there's really nothing you can do to me.
Be my guest, in a few years, you'll be dead, and you'll be forgotten, suffering the second death, not long after that.
Why would I want to do anything to you?
What is the Second Death? This is a concept that is unfamiliar to me.
See your above statements, in which that was in reference too?
Did you google it?
It's the last time someone ever speaks your name, Barry Kort.
Google what? Second Death?
It will happen.
Yes, fucktard.
'Second death'.
How do you know that? Are you prescient?
Because you wouldn't be asking me if you googled it.
Are you going to keep asking dumb-ass questions the rest of this convo?
I'm too busy trying to find out what you are thinking and feeling to do research on foreign memes.
Feeling and thinking about what?
What is your concept of a non-dumb-ass question?
Feeling and thinking about the optimal way to make others miserable. That's a fascinating topic. Never met anyone like that before.
Again, you're making shit up.
That's not what I said.
But if you want to meditate upon that topic, be my guest. It is right up your alley isn't it?
Are you saying there are more characters like you?
What is the name of my Alley?
Show me the statement that makes you deduce that is what I meant.
You enjoy misreading what I write?
Maybe you aren't playing dumb, maybe you are really this fucking stupid.
*shrugs*
That must suck.
This one: "Again, you're making shit up."
I said I had never met another person like you.
Are you not unique in wanting to make others miserable?
Good for you.
I didn't say that.
I said if I See the opportunity, I will.
What did you say?
Opportunistic considerations are not equivalent to 'wants' or 'desires'.
Have you never been afforded such an opportunity before?
Many a times, and with most people, I let them sail on by.
But with you, not so much.
I really only take the time for bullies.
Like you.
Does it please you to find such an opportunity in this case?
Yes, I'm a grudger more than a sucker or cheater.
We keep the populations healthy.
More it is cathartic.
That word isn't too big for you is it?
Are you what they call a Griefer in the game world?
No.
I'm a very cooperative gamer and usually very friendly online.
I even ignore most trolls.
Not a Griefer? What is the name of the role you play in these agonistic dramas? What is the name of your archetypal character?
It's in my name.
Isn't it?
Jera.
Oh. Troll? Are you playing role of Troll?
No.
Wolf?
I'm the consequence.
Harvest.
Jera.
That means you see me as a sheep?
Does 'Jera' have a meaning?
I just told you it.
Consequence, Harvest.
Jera is a rune.
Jera means harvest?
Yep.
You are Mr. Sukkoth?
Feast of Tabernacles?
Most likely, Barry, since I'm not going out of my way to make you miserable, or anything, since you aren't really a threat to anyone, just a nuisance, you'll live the rest of your days with nary a thing to worry about me, and our paths won't really cross.
I was just sharing my intention and feelings on you, since our last conversation.
You don't know how to cooperate, only how to threaten and coerce.
You mock and ridicule those you feel less intelligent than you, like Trudy, like Mark.
You're an intellectual bully.
I'm an intellectual as well, its my circle too, though young, I hate bullies.
Ah, but you are effortlessly cooperating with me right now, even as we construct the text of our Agonistic Drama.
I'm a grudger, our default is cooperate.
Tit for tat.
I could never have crafted this dialogue on my own.
For a systemic thinker, you can't hold many variables in your head about a person can you?
You aren't good at synthesis.
Your character archetype is Grudger?
I think you are, or at least act, autistic to a degree.
Yep.
That's as good as any.
I prefer game theory over other psychological profiling. It accounts for outcomes more than intentions.
Also, I'm honest, unlike you.
You've lied to me at least once.
And most of your current complaint is based on a lie.
But I'm humoring you.
Because you're pathetic, and I'm not, so I'm being patient and was even willing to help you out. You decided you would rather count coup with me.
I don't yet have the components of your character.
Here is what I need to flesh out an Antagonist in an Agonistic Drama ...
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Dude, you should get some counseling. I wish you luck in the remainder of your life. I hope you don't continue to waste it on this nonsense. You have to earn people's respect, not demand it. You've lost mine. Cheers.
Can I quote you on that?
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May I quote you on that?
Stop IMing me please.
Did you decide to eschew PvN's sage advice to you?
Stop IMing me please.
Did you decide to eschew PvN's sage advice to you? Did he not suggest you discontinue knocking on my door, since it is my practice to answer the door when someone knocks.
Stop IMing me please.
Could be dangerous. You go first.
Stop IMing me please.
Here I am, answering the door again.
Stop IMing me please.
Why do you persist in knocking on my door with nothing to say?
Please stop IMing me. Thank you.
I'll stop answering the door when you stop knocking on it.
Please stop IMing me. Thank you.
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