John Kellden
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I have Cognitive Dissonance over two dots that don't connect.
On the one hand, Stephanie Wellen Levine tells me she is so allergic to the notion of systems thinking that it makes her violently ill in the pit of her stomach.
And yet Stephanie is a member of Conversation, which is FB's largest collection of systems thinkers.
How can that be?
Jul 4
Barry, I've temporarily removed you from the CCFB. There has been more than three instances where you shared not considered, inconsiderate comments, continuing where it was very clear others were feeling intimidated and harassed. You are welcome back at some time in the future, should you so wish.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
How long does my hiatus last? And will I be afforded the unalienable right to respond to those there who wish to address me?
1 hour ago
Unalienable right? There is one and only one rule in the CCFB.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
Your hiatus is entirely up to you.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
I would like to return now, then if it pleases you.
I do not wish to be alienated from other members of my own NeuroTribe.
John, do you know who, just now, caused my TimeLine post to suddenly become erased?
It just this minute disappeared.
Yutiel Yoshi was in the middle of posting a comment when it disappeared.
1 hour ago
When I said up to you, I was referring to you resolving the recent kerfuffles with Stephanie and Jennifer, and then all of you can separately share your resolve with me, after which you are welcome to rejoin.
There's no rush, take your time to become friends again.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
Jennifer has me blocked. Jesse has Stephanie blocked. What is your mechanism in CCFB for Civil Conflict Resolution?
1 hour ago
No. Not my mechanism. Your willingness to resolve with the others.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
You resolving the recent kerfuffles with Stephanie and Jennifer, and then all of you can separately share your resolve with me, after which you are welcome to rejoin.
There's no rush, take your time to become friends again.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
Here is the issue as I see it, John.
Jesse is an Aspie. So is Christopher Tremblay. I am on the borderline between Aspergers Syndrome and NeuroTypical.
As near as I can make out, Stephanie (and probably Jennifer, too), cannot abide our NeuroTribe. Our NeuroTribe literally make them sick to their stomach.
1 hour ago
Barry, there's three thousand members in the CCFB. There is one, and only one rule. Every single one of the members, would love to have unique allowances made, just for them. That is not so.
There is no such thing as a unique, individual framing of any which issue. That is for you to resolve, with the others.
The path "back" to rejoin: You resolving the recent kerfuffles with Stephanie and Jennifer, and then all of you can separately share your resolve with me, after which you are welcome to rejoin.
There's no rush, take your time to become friends again.
In short, share your resolve, and be welcomed back.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
How is it, John, that Jennifer Grove has the unique power to unilaterally police the existence of contributions from the Aspie NeuroTribe?
Do you see the Modus Operandi?
1 hour ago
Barry, I'm done with this thread. Please stop.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
Barry, there's three thousand members in the CCFB. There is one, and only one rule. Every single one of the members, would love to have unique allowances made, just for them. That is not so.
There is no such thing as a unique, individual framing of any which issue. That is for you to resolve, with the others.
The path "back" to rejoin: You resolving the recent kerfuffles with Stephanie and Jennifer, and then all of you can separately share your resolve with me, after which you are welcome to rejoin.
There's no rush, take your time to become friends again.
In short, share your resolve, and be welcomed back.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
My plan, John, is to expose the unbecoming practice of marginalizing, alienating, and censoring the members of the Aspie NeuroTribe.
1 hour ago
Where is the Due Process, John?
1 hour ago
By the way, Jennifer, Stephanie, and I are not enemies. None of us have anything against the other. The evidence for that is in the post on my TimeLine that suddenly vanished a little while ago.
So we cannot logically becomes Friends again, since we were never more than correspondents who had never bothered to become FB Friends. Our status is the same as it has always been since any of us have been members of any common FB Discussion Group.
1 hour ago
Did you also remove both Stephanie and Jennifer from CCFB? Or only me?
1 hour ago
1 hour ago
John, have you sequestered from me the corpus of contributions to CCFB? If so, why have you sequestered my contributions?
1 hour ago
Barry, I'm done with this thread. Please stop.
Barry, there's three thousand members in the CCFB. There is one, and only one rule. Every single one of the members, would love to have unique allowances made, just for them. That is not so.
There is no such thing as a unique, individual framing of any which issue. That is for you to resolve, with the others.
The path "back" to rejoin: You resolving the recent kerfuffles with Stephanie and Jennifer, and then all of you can separately share your resolve with me, after which you are welcome to rejoin.
There's no rush, take your time to become friends again.
In short, share your resolve, and be welcomed back.
1 hour ago · Sent from Web
John, Stephanie and I have never been anything more than casual acquaintances. We are neither friends nor enemies. We are just two people who have different interests in life.
As far as I know, I never met Jennifer anywhere on FB. I didn't even know there was such a person until Anne-Marie tried to cc me on one of Jennifer's disclosures. Did you happen to see that?
37 minutes ago · Seen 8:02am
OK. I worked out a tacit agreement.
Jesse has tacitly agreed not to recognize the existence of Stephanie, nor to ever attend to anything she says or writes, but to simply adopt the convenient fiction that she does not exist.
Jennifer and Stephanie have both tacitly agreed to pretend I do not exist and to never attend to or respond to anything I say or write.
I have agreed to reciprocate in kind by ignoring the existence of either Jennifer or Stephanie and to refrain from attending to or responding to anything she says or writes in CCFB.
Thus we have tacitly arrived at a mutually agreeable resolution. You can independently poll them to confirm that this is their policy, as well.
For all practical purposes, I don't exist for them and, going forward, they don't exist for me.
Does that work for you?
49 minutes ago
John Kellden
I need to hear back separately from all of the concerned.
42 minutes ago · Sent from Web
Will you convey to them the terms, as you understand them from me?
33 minutes ago
John Kellden
Again, the resolving doesn't reside with me.
32 minutes ago · Sent from Web
Since it's a tacit agreement, we are logically obliged to simply wordlessly agree to it, as a tacit non-verbal agreement.
Yutiel Yoshi has approved it.
30 minutes ago
John Kellden
You added part of our ongoing conversation here, to a public post?
27 minutes ago · Sent from Web
My proposal to you. Those are my words I posted.
26 minutes ago
John Kellden
That is to me a breach of trust, and borderline attempt at public shaming, guilt-tripping. It is beneath you to do that.
25 minutes ago · Sent from Web
Do you wish me to redact my publication of my pledge to you?
25 minutes ago
John Kellden
How would I be sure you wouldn't do so again? How would I know this is the full extent disclosure? How would I be able to trust you again?
24 minutes ago · Sent from Web
The way to be sure, John, is to have an express social contract, rather than an unwritten one where undisclosed expectations are laid on others without their knowledge or consent.
23 minutes ago
John Kellden
It's not unwritten. The one and only rule is there, since Nov 2012 in the CCG+ and since Feb 2015 in the CCFB. You are evading your own responsibility for your own actions.
22 minutes ago · Sent from Web
Please recite the text of the rule to me, John.
Where, in the Public Group is there a rule that applies to conversations not taking place in the group?
20 minutes ago