Hamptons Club
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SCTM
200-594-1-5, 200-563-4-2 and 200-563-5-1
Acres
79
Current zoning
A-1 Residence
Pine Barrens status
In Compatible Growth Area
School District
Eastport-South Manor
Brookhaven log # 2009-029-CZ
Application
For modification of the subdivision plan approved in 2007 to make it a site plan for a condominium development of 64 single family houses
Proposed use
64 single family residences and open space
Hearing date
No hearing is scheduled. Application heard on 9/23/13 is on the Planning Board's decision calendar.
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Prior Application Approved. The developers initially sought approval for a 64 single family home clustered subdivision. They applied to the Pine Barrens Commission for a hardship exemption for the project and a hearing was held. The transcript of the 11/16/05 hearing shows their arguments and the Commission's minutes of the 11/16/05 meeting summarize some aspects of the hearing. The Commission granted the exemption in a 1/18/06 resolution.
An application for the project was also made to the Town. The developers sought and obtained relief from the moratorium for the CR 51 Land Use Plan. Their application for the single-family project was approved by the Planning Board with conditions as shown in its May 24 2007 letter. In connection with this plan, the owner gave and recorded covenants and easements to the Town, the County and the Pine Barrens Commission (see DoH covenants, Town covenants, Pine Barrens covenants and Town easements). The Suffolk County Planning Commission had disapproved the proposal.
Now Seek Doubling Density. Now, however, the owner wants to double its yield, and seek a change of zone from A-1 (1 acre per single family house) to B-Residence (15,000 sq. ft. per unit) to permit the doubling of the density. They propose to use the same layout of buildings as in the approved 64-unit plan, but make most of the houses duplexes.
According to their current application, filed 7/16/09, they want
Environmental Impacts? The owner submitted a Full Environmental Assessment Statement with its application, as well as a Fiscal and Economic Impact Analysis (both have been updated, see below). By August 26, the Town had concluded that the project had "possible significant environmental impacts" and started the SEQRA investigation process. In a September 3 letter, the Town's Environmental Protection Division requested additional information from the owner. The owner has filed an EXPANDED Environmental Assessment Report on October 6, 2009. It includes appendices with approvals for the prior 1-acre/house plan, a Fiscal and Economic Analysis which addresses school taxes and other issues, and a traffic assessment.
In a 9/23/09 memo, The Town's Division of Traffic Safety has stated that the requested downzoning "could have an adverse traffic impact." It estimated that "the proposed development will generate more than 1.4 times the vehicle trip-ends (1480 vehicle trip-ends in a 24 hour period) than if the site were developed under the existing zoning (832 vehicle trip-ends in a 24 hour period)." In a 10/13/09 letter, the NYS Transportation said that "a revised Traffic Impact Study is warranted" given the additional traffic that would be generated by increased density. Traffic Safety reiterated its concerns in a 11/16/09 memo.
On 12/8/09, the Town Board approved a pos dec requiring the applicant to file an Environmental Impact Statement that would be supplemental to the CR 51 Land Use Plan. With record speed, the applicant filed a draft EIS and on 12/22/09 the Town Board decided that it was" deemed to be satisfactory with respect to its scope and content". It scheduled a hearing for the first meeting in April (no specific date yet) on the EIS and on the application to change the zoning of the site from A-1 to B Residence. The DEIS is available for viewing in several parts (due to its size): the main text, a part of the CR51 Land Use Plan, various prior Town approval documents, an updated Fiscal and Economic Impact Analysis, and a Traffic Assessment.
As part of the SEQRA process, the Town asked Suffolk County Planning if it had any objection to the Town's being the lead agency under SEQRA. In a 4/30/10 letter, the County said it had no objection, and added:
"It would appear that there is no basis for a Change of Zone to higher density. Moreover, the subject site is remotely situated for attached housing and posses limited amenities desired for multi-residence purposes."
Pine Barrens Hardship Exemption.
A Pine Barrens hardship exemption would be required for this project to proceed. This was stated in a letter from the Commission staff. It raised other issues, including the need for a sewage treatment plant rather than individual backyard septic systems.
An application for the exemption has been filed and may be viewed on the Commission's website. The hearing on the application was started on March 17 and testimony from residents, environmentalists and civics was heard. The hearing transcript may be viewed, as well as the Commission's minutes of the meeting. The Commission decided to adjourn the hearing once it learned from Suffolk County's representative that the County would not agree to the plan for acquiring another property without certain sanitary credits--which credits would then have be used for increased sanitary density on this property. The application is now on the Commission's agenda for June 16 at 2 pm at the Brookhaven Town Hall.
4/20/10 Town Board Hearing on the COZ application
A large crowd, estimated at 100, came to the Town Board hearing on the proposed downzoning. From Supervisor Mark Lesko's initial comments, it seemed the hearing might not be held, despite the number of people who had come. After a brief executive session, Councilman Dan Panico came out with thumbs up, indicating that the hearing would proceed.
The hearing took up most of the evening's meeting. Applicant's professionals presented their reasons for the COZ, which were summarized in a Powerpoint presentation. 28 residents spoke on the project, nearly all against the change of zone. The exhibits submitted to the Board at the hearing, including letters from EMPOA and residents, may be viewed (the pdf has bookmarks viewable only if you download them). An article in the Press of Manorville & the Moriches covers other aspects of the hearing. In an editorial in the same issue, the Press came out strongly against downzoning.
The hearing on the change of zone was not closed, and will be resumed later. The announced reason for this unusual procedure was that the Suffolk County Planning Commission still needs to review the COZ application. (In fact, for reasons not yet clear, the Town had not referred the issue to the Commission prior to the hearing.)
At the hearing, references were made to the status of Encore Atlantic Shores, a PRC on 75 acres just to the west of the Hamptons Club site (in the rest of the triangle formed by the Riverhead Road (CR 51), Route 111 and the Sunrise Highway). Information on Encore's zoning history has been uploaded as background.
4/20/10 Town Board Hearing on the draft EIS
Simultaneously with the COZ hearing, a hearing was being held on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) that the applicant had prepared. An EIS is supposed to accurately describe the impacts the proposed project would have if allowed. Here is a brief summary of what SEQRA regulations say is supposed to happen procedurally:
When a public agency (like the Town Board) is considering an action (like a re-zoning) that might have one or more significant adverse environmental impacts, it issues a "positive declaration" requiring that an Environmental Impact Statement be completed. The applicant drafts the DEIS, and it is reviewed by Town staff. When done, it is presented to the Board to decide whether to accept it as adequate for public review and whether to hold a public hearing on it. After the public hearing is held, revisions shown necessary by the hearing are made, and a final EIS is filed. All of the comments received from the public and other agencies on the DEIS are to be part of the final EIS.
You can review the regs on our website (click for online info) or see more on DEC's website (click for DEC).\
In this case, the Board issued a "Pos Dec" requiring an EIS on December 9. On December 22, it accepted applicant's DEIS as ready for public review, and set the hearing date. On March 23, the Board by resolution also set the COZ hearing for the same date, April 20. The hearing on the DEIS was held and closed except for written comments on the DEIS received by April 30.
The applicant and the Town are now reviewing the DEIS comments and preparing a Final Draft Environmental Impact Statement.
6/16/10 Pine Barrens Commission Hearing
A Commission staff member had drafted a report for the Commission dated May 17, 2010. It recommended denial of the hardship exemption application. The reasons included:
"a. Competent financial evidence not submitted to demonstrate hardship.
b. The hardship is not unique to the property.
c. A project for increased density would alter the essential character of the neighborhood.
d. The hardship is self-created.
. . . .
c. No sanitary wastewater credits or development rights generated outside of the Central Pine Barrens shall be used within the Central Pine Barrens."
On the Friday prior to the continued exemption hearing, the applicant filed 230 pages of argument and exhibits. They were responses by applicant's attorney and its engineer to a staff report. Four attachments to the engineer's letter lay out real estate data intended to show that there is demand for the type of condos and houses to be offered under the B-Residence plan (Attachments A-1 and A-2), the features of units being offered in the proposed price range (Attachment B) and the infeasibility of selling homes under the approved A-1 Residence plan (Attachment C). The applicant was ready at the hearing to make an oral presentation as well.
However, the Chairman noted that the applicant's papers had just been received, and the Commission adjourned the hearing to its next meeting, Wednesday, July 21 at 2 pm.
7/20/10, EIS Accepted
On July 20, Brookhaven's Town Board passed a resolution approving the final Environmental Impact Statement. It includes comments made by the public on it, and responses to those comments prepared by the applicant. It was reviewed by the Town's Environmental Protection Division. The comments were made on the draft EIS, which is available for viewing in several parts (due to its size): the main text, a part of the CR51 Land Use Plan, various prior Town approval documents, an updated Fiscal and Economic Impact Analysis, and a Traffic Assessment. The Final EIS may be downloaded from the Town's website (with pages is the wrong order) or viewed on this website in a searchable version with bookmarks and pages in the right order.
9/1/10 S.C. Planning Commission Meeting
As required by NY's General Municipal Law §239-m and Suffolk County Administrative Code §A14-14, the Town referred the application to the County Planning Commission under General Municipal Law §239-l. On such a referral, it may consider land use compatibility, traffic generation, nearby impact on county or state uses, community character (including uses and density), drainage, community facilities, and official municipal and county development policies. It looks at the application from a County and inter-Town perspective.
Previously, the Commission considered the A-1 (1 house per acre) plan originally proposed and approved by the Town. On 11/3/04, it disapproved the original proposal because, as the meetings minutes show, "it's felt that a greater effort should be made to preserve open space". Applicant is now proposing near-double density using almost the same layout of houses (now duplexes) as was originally proposed.
The Commission considered the referral on 9/1, and disapproved the proposed downzoning by a vote of 9 to 1. This means an additional vote will be required on Brookhaven's Town Board to pass the change of zone as currently proposed. Five votes for, rather than the simple majority of 4 will be required. S.C. Admin. Code §14-16.
The Commission adopted the recommendation of disapproval in the Staff Report it received at its meeting. The Staff Report recommended disapproval because 1) the proposal called for using sanitary credits from outside the Pine Barrens and moving density from outside the Pine Barrens into it is contrary to the intent of the Pine Barrens Act and threatens groundwater and 2) increasing residential density on this site is not consistent with policies that increased residential density should be in close proximity to hamlet centers, community services and transportation.
9/7 and 9/21/10--Town Board Findings Resolution
EMPOA learned only on 9/3 that a resolution would likely be moved at the Town Board's 9/7 meeting to adopt SEQRA Findings for the proposed downzoning--maybe early in the meeting. Findings under SEQRA are supposed to provide the factual support for the action to be taken, here a downzoning from A-1 Residential to nearly twice the density of B-Residential zoning.
Here is how NYS's Department of Environmental Conservation describes "Findings":
"A findings statement is a written document, prepared following acceptance of a final EIS, which declares that all SEQR requirements for making decisions on an action have been met. The findings statement identifies the social and economic, as well as environmental, considerations that have been weighed in making a decision to approve or disapprove an action. A positive findings statement means that, after consideration of the final EIS, the project or action can be approved, and the action chosen is the one that minimizes or avoids environmental impacts to the maximum extent practicable. For an action which can be approved, an agency's findings statement must articulate that agency's balancing of adverse environmental impacts against the needs for and benefits of the action. If the action cannot be approved based on analyses in the final EIS, a negative findings statement must be prepared, documenting the reasons for the denial." DEC's SEQRA Handbook, §5I (online) (emphasis added).
This means that adoption of positive findings statement is a prelude to a downzoning. DEC's SEQRA Handbook is here.
The Findings have yet to be adopted. The resolution for them was taken off the agenda late in the afternoon of 9/7. They were expected to be proposed at the 9/21 Town Board meeting, but were not because of litigation commenced against the Town by the owners of the Oaks and Heritage Square properties. The Oaks was the site from which the sanitary credits were supposed to have come to allow sanitary flow from near-double density.
9/15/10 Pine Barrens Commission Hearing.
At the July 21 meeting, staff announced that the applicant had decided not to speak (as had been expected), so no stenographic report was present. The hearing was adjourned to September 15 at 2 pm.
At the June 16 hearing, Commission members had raised various questions, which were set forth in a 7/20/10 letter to the applicant. The applicant was expected to have responded to the questions prior to the 9/15 hearing, but had not. In fact, although its engineer was present, applicant did not have anyone make a presentation at the hearing. Members of the public did speak, reiterated opposition to the project, and responded to contentions made in 6/11/10 letters by applicant's attorney and its engineer . Their testimony and the rest of the proceedings are in the transcript of the hearing.
The Commission said it expected a response from applicant to its questions, and directed that it be delivered by October 6 and be posted on the Commission's web. The response is to be posted on the Commission's website and the public may comment on it in writing by October 27. The hearing is to be continued on November 17.
Applicant's additional information filed 10/6/10.
Applicant's attorney and engineer submitted written responses to the Pine Barrens Commission's staff's 7/20/10 letter on 10/6/10. In their letters, they address specific issues raised by the Commission. The attorney also submitted a lengthy and detailed "Feasibility Analysis" by a real estate appraisal firm. As described by the attorney, the report
"describe[s] the market conditions and marketing activities which were undertaken by the applicant and which have led to a conclusion that the approved project will not produce a reasonable return and that the proposed plan is marketable under today's conditions and will result in a moderate return for the applicant."
(The 54-page report is 9.6 Mb. View it with Google Docs or download it and get the benefit of added bookmarks.)
EMPOA submitted a response to the additional material filed by applicant.
Request for Hardship Exemption Withdrawn 11/4/10.
By letter to the Pine Barrens Commission dated 11/4/10, applicant withdrew its request for a hardship exemption. The reason given was that its "contract with the owner of the property known as The Oaks has expired and [applicant has] not yet been able to renegotiate the terms for the purchase of the sanitary credits associated with The Oaks property."
The letter stated that applicant might seek to have its application restored to the Commission's calendar. The Commission's resolution accepting withdrawal stated that any resubmission would restart the normal 120-day review period.
Changing ideas
During the winter and early spring, the developer was apparently weighing its options. A sign was erected on the site offering 64 single family homes from $379,900. The originally approved site plan presumably would have been used, but the quality of the houses apparently would have been much lower.
Hardship application renewed 4/14/11.
By a 4/14/11 letter, the developer asked to renew its application for a hardship exemption from the Pine Barrens Commission to allow near-doubling of the project's density. It was told in response that it had to file a new application. It did so on 6/7/11. The new application is shorter than all that the developer submitted on the first go-round and contains few if any new materials. The 10/28/09 plan for B-Residence zoning is the plan applicant seeks an exemption for.
The developer's attorney submitted a very brief memorandum explaining the developer's position. The essence of the developer's argument seems to be that the double-density plan is no worse, and even a little bit better, than the single-family house plan for which an exemption was given in 2007. Significantly, the memo does not address the impacts on the community of nearly doubling density. It asserts that the effect of doing so on traffic is "equivalent" to the effect of the single family plans with nearly half as many residences.
Pine Barrens Commission Hearing, 9/21/11.
EMPOA submitted a letter with attachments prior to the hearing objecting to an exemption. The Commission heard a lengthy presentation by the owner-developer and also from residents, EMPOA and the Pine Barrens Society. The owner's attorney sought to narrow the issue before the Commission and argued that the only exemption was for too much clearing, and that the Commission had decided that when it granted an exemption in 2006 for the single family plan. At least one Commission member also attempted to narrow the issues. On the other hand, arguments were made, and Commission members and staff made comments regarding,
The Commission closed the hearing, but gave the owner 2 weeks for filing additional information and the public 30 days, until Friday, October 21, to submit written comments. The owner's attorney agreed to extend the time for the Commission's decision to the 12/21/11 meeting.
Additional Submissions to the Pine Barrens Commission
The applicant's attorney submitted a letter dated 10/3/11 to the Commission. The letter argued that because of the Commission's prior approval of a hardship exemption for the single-family project, the Commission is bound to approve an exemption for a similar plan that nearly doubles the density of the project. (The Commission's earlier action is presented at the top of this page.) Applicant's engineer submitted a letter dated 10/5/11 responding to certain questions raised by the Commission's staff and public comments at the 9/21/11 hearing.
In a 10/12/11 letter, Commission staff asked for more information on the County's prior rejection of applicant's request to transfer density onto the subject site and the changes that the B-Residence project would involve. Applicant's engineer responded in a 10/16/11 letter that the effects of the sewage from the B-Residence project would be less than those from the A-1 Residence project. Applicant's attorney responded in a 10/18/11 letter that applicant was discussing purchase of 44 sanitary credits that Brookhaven had acquired by the open space purchase of The Oaks site in East Moriches.
EMPOA then submitted a 10/21/11 letter further objecting to the application on multiple grounds, including certain new information. Development rights to nearby farmland were being acquired by the County, and there were questions whether the 44 sanitary credits from The Oaks could legally be used to increase density in the CGA. Others submitted objections as well, and they can be viewed on the Commission's website.
Despite the fact that the Commission had closed the hearing on the hardship application, applicant submitted a 11/16/11 letter from its engineer presenting new arguments about sanitary issues.
Town adopts Finding Statements on 12/13/11
With the 12/21/11 Pine Barrens Commission meeting approaching, at the Town Board's 12/13/11 meeting Supervisor Lesko moved a resolution adopting Finding Statements. The statements were drafted to support approval of a change of zone for the subject parcel from A-1 Residence to B-Residence, and purported to explain how the environmental risks identified in the Draft and Final Generic Environmental Impact Statements had been mitigated acceptably. EMPOA objected to the resolutions in its 12/13/11 letter. The resolution passed with the Supervisor and all Town councilpersons voting for it except for Councilman Dan Panico.
More Extensions at the 12/21/11 and 1/28/12 Commission Meetings
A large contingent of residents spoke forcefully against the application during the public comment period at the 12/21/11 Pine Barrens Commission meeting. The Commission Chairman commented on this.
When the time in the meeting came for a decision, Supervisor Lesko (who as Brookhaven's Supervisor is a member of the Commission) said he thought there had been a request by the applicant for an extension of the time to make a decision. Then a representative of applicant rose in the rear of the audience and said that such as request had been emailed within the last hour, so maybe no one had actually received it.
An extension was granted, with Supervisor Lesko, Riverhead Supervisor Walters and Suffolk County's representative voting for it. Chairman Scully and Southampton's Supervisor Thone-Holst voted against the extension.
The January 18 meeting was a rerun. Many residents attended, some spoke, and all were disappointed when, by another 3-2 vote, the time for a decision was extended to March 21. Again, Supervisor Lesko urged it. The only difference was that the applicant said it was looking into another approach to sanitary waste treatment.
A change of plan
On 2/9, shortly before the Commission's 2/15 meeting, applicant submitted a request that it be allowed to amend its application (even though the hearing on the application had been closed). It said it wanted to use a newly approved technology for treating the waste water from the 119 units it was seeking to build. Most of them would have Nitrex systems added to the previously proposed septic systems, but there would be one Nitrex-septic system for each 4 units.
At the 2/15 meeting, residents again spoke out against the application, and raised questions about the use of Nitrex in this context. The developer indicated that changes would be forthcoming in its engineer's 3/9/12 letter to the Commission. By a 3/20/12 letter, the developer's attorney withdrew the pending application, and the next day submitted a new application (to view it with 9 MB of attachments, click here). The Commission met on the day the new application was received. Despite discussion among Commissioners about moving the application forward quickly, the Commission took no action on it.
Suffolk County Planning Commission hearing, 5/2/12
State law requires Towns to submit certain land use applications to Suffolk County's Planning Commission for review. If the Commission undertakes a review and recommends against the application or approves it with conditions, then the Town may act in a manner inconsistent with the Commission's position only with a supermajority vote (5 out of 7 votes). Brookhaven has forwarded the developer's current application to the Commission. For the things the Commission is to consider in doing its review, go here.
The developer's attorney submitted a letter arguing that the reasons for previsouly disapproving the downzoning no longer applied. EMPOA submitted a letter strongly objecting to approval, and a number of residents spoke at the meeting against approval. The County Planning staff's recommendation was to approve of the application with some minor comments. The Commissioners attitude at the meeting was mostly in favor of the project. We do not yet have the exact final determination.
Amended CoZ Application
While the action was before the Pine Barrens and the County Planning Commissions, the Town still had to be brought up to date. The developer filed an amended change of zone Application on 4/5/12. The details of it had been presented in a 3/28/12 letter to the Town from the developer's engineer.
If the Pine Barrens Commission were to grant the developer a hardship exemption, one might expect the CoZ hearing to follow fairly soon afterwards.
Pine Barrens Commission Meeting, 5/16/12
Prior to this meeting, the developer advised the Commission by letter, that it would agree to purchase 15 Pine Barrens Credits rather than just the 8 Credits previously proposed.
The developer argued the benefits of its new proposal, specifically installing 30 Nitrex systems to be operated and maintained by the home owners association. Nitrex' manufacturer presented the purported benefits of the system using a slide presentation. Questions were raised by EMPOA in its letter and by it and others at the hearing on whether the developer could ever get approval or a variance for the system under Article 6, as would be required for a hardship exemption as applied for.
Commission staff had submitted a detailed report raising numerous questions about the revised application. As allowed by the Commission, the developer filed a response to the staff report with attachments, and others may do so by 6/15/12. This would make a decision possible at the Commissions 6/20/12 meeting.
Hardship Application withdrawn, 7/18/12
For the Pine Barrens Commission's 6/20/12 meeting, EMPOA submitted a letter summarizing objections to the pending hardship exemption application. There was considerable discussion at the 6/20/12 meeting, but no decision. At the Commission's 7/18/12 meeting, it was announced that the application was to be withdrawn. A letter doing so was submitted.
Developer moves ahead
The developer seemed to be considering his options for a while, but then let it be know that he would proceed with the 64 single family home plan approved in 2007. A site plan (9 Mb file) detailing the work to be done has been submitted, and Planning staff submitted a recommendation of approval subject to 10 conditions.
The plan submitted includes a number of changes, which have been listed by the developer's engineer. The most significant is a change to condominium ownership. That might seem as a change only of interest to future residents, but it would mean more than that. Condominiums are reportedly assessed at values significantly lower than comparable single family units, so that means less property tax revenue to the school district, the Town and other taxing entities.
The Planning Board heard testimony on 9/23/12, closed the hearing and placed the application on its decision calendar.