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144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven
Posted by Sherwood on Mon - Jul 14 - 08:46am:
Most translations say the 144,000 will reign "upon, over, on" the earth. NJB translates "to rule the world." It is hard to fathom how a disciple of Jesus who never entertained a Heavenly Hope would exist in such a place after death and would preceive their rulership was from a 'dwelling' abode in heaven. This idea is only pondered upon after the Great Apostasy. Were the Apostle wrong to believe they were promised to be kings and priests "upon, over, on" the earth while living "in" the earth? No. I entreat you to consider that Mankind have been misled since the prophetically fortold Apostasy. Now as we (in the present world) are infected by the prophetic Apostasy world wide, is it any wonder that CTR and the current teaching of the JW's 2,000 years later still preach the false hope of heavenly life for any humans (kings and priests) other than Jesus Christ whom is the only one to come down from heaven?
Scriptural case study:
NWT Rev 5:10
10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.”
ASV Rev 5:10
10 and madest them (to be) unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon earth.
AMP Rev 5:10
10 And You have made them a kingdom (royal race) and priests to our God, and they shall reign [as kings] over the earth! [Ex 19:6; Isa 61:6.]
KJV Rev 5:10
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
NASU Rev 5:10
10 "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."
NKJV Rev 5:10
10 And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth."
NIVRev 5:10
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign on the earth."
NAS Rev 5:10
10 "And Thou hast made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."
NRSV Rev 5:10
10 you have made them to be a kingdom and priests serving our God, and they will reign on earth"
REB Rev 5:10
10 You have made them a royal house of priest for our God, and they shall reign on earth.
NAB Rev 5:10
You made them a kingdom and priest for our God, and they wil reign on earth."
NJB Rev 5:10
and made them a line of kings and priest for God, to rule the world.
144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Mon - Jul 14 - 08:46am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by JJ - Mon - Jul 14 - 11:37am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Mon - Jul 14 - 12:19am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Euphemism - Tue - Jul 15 - 1:34pm
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Tue - Jul 15 - 7:23pm
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Euphemism - Tue - Jul 15 - 11:39pm
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Wed - Jul 16 - 08:50am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Euphemism - Wed - Jul 16 - 10:36am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Wed - Jul 16 - 12:09am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Euphemism - Wed - Jul 16 - 12:55am
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Wed - Jul 16 - 3:49pm
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Sherwood - Wed - Jul 16 - 8:55pm
Re: 144,000 ON earth, as it is IN heaven - Posted by Euphemism - Thu - Jul 17 - 10:20am