Henke 2022y

Mr. Lundahl Tries to Tell God and Everyone Else What God Does and Doesn’t Do

Kevin R. Henke

September 15, 2022

I’m willing to change my mind about miracles, if Mr. Lundahl or others can ever provide evidence of them. They have not. Now, in Henke (2022a), I defined an act of the supernatural or a miracle as:

“I define a supernatural act or “magic” as a feat that violates the laws of chemistry and/or physics.”

I also recognized in Henke (2022b) that if God exists, he could act without violating the laws of chemistry and physics. In particular, I said, for example, that God could play a game of pool without violating natural law. I can recognize that God could act either way. He can play pool by using miracles or restricting himself to the Laws of Nature. By expectation, he’s omnipotent! He can do anything he wants. In contrast, Lundahl (2022a), Lundahl (2022i) and elsewhere insists on telling God, us and everyone else that God does not violate the Laws of Nature. Now, he might be right. But, how does Mr. Lundahl know this? Has God told him this?

Here’s the big difference between Mr. Lundahl’s and my position. He not only claims to know without any evidence that God exists, he claims to know how God acts. I’m not making such bold and absurd claims. I don’t know if God exists or not. If he exists, I would never be so bold as to tell God what he does or doesn’t do. If God exists, he may or may not violate the laws of chemistry and physics. Because God is defined as being omnipotent, he can do anything he wants. If God chooses to violate the laws of chemistry and physics, I would define that as a miracle. If he does not, as Lundahl (2022i) claims, then God is a supernatural being that doesn’t do miracles as many of us would define them.

In the story of Jesus walking on water, I fully realize in Henke (2022b) that the story is meant to impress people with Jesus’ extraordinary and supernatural abilities. I state:

“While the gospels usually describe Jesus as walking around and engaging in other activities that were consistent with the laws of gravity, the walking on water story is clearly meant to be taken as extraordinary or supernatural.”

In an incoherent response, Lundahl (2022i) immediately claims that he knows how Jesus did it and that no laws of physics were broken:

“The point is not it not being extraordinary, or it not being supernatural. The point is, the clearly extraordinary activity of the clearly supernatural agent achieve these things without breaking any actual law, because no clause in any law of nature describes absence of other factors as always applying, nor, therefore, absence of supernatural ones.”

From these stories, how does Lundahl (2022i) know that Jesus broke no natural laws when he supposedly walked on water? In Henke (2022b), I admitted that it was possible that invisible angels held up Jesus’ feet so that he could walk on water without violating any laws of physics. Mr. Lundahl’s supposed reason in Lundahl (2022i) for Jesus not breaking any natural law during his walking on water is just more nonsensical babble from him:

“….because no clause in any law of nature describes absence of other factors as always applying, nor, therefore, absence of supernatural ones.”

Why can’t Mr. Lundahl just tell us in clear English how he can boldly proclaim that he knows that Jesus did not violate any laws of physics when he walked on water? What justification does Lundahl (2022i) have for proclaiming that he knows how Jesus supposedly did this?