Henke 2022ao

130 Years from When?? More Obscure Writing from Mr. Lundahl and Evidence Refutes the Young-Earth Creationist Claims in Lundahl (2022a) and Lundahl (2022j)

Kevin R. Henke

September 15, 2022

Lundahl (2022a) stated:

“God and angelic beings can do things with bodies that physics doesn't provide their ability for. Like the example of God turning the N/m away from downward vectoriality and like demons keeping the body of David Copperfield above the water, like an adult holding a doll, just the "adult" isn't using hands but will and has no body and isn't visible. Btw, both good angels and demons can readily consider us "immature" - they were created over 7200 years ago and made their mature decision for eternity right after creation, we were each created less than 130 years ago (I presume) and as long as we live, we have time to change, and some do so in the last moment, for better or for worse.” [my emphasis]

In response to these rambling statements, I wrote in Henke (2022b):

“Here, Mr. Lundahl speculates on a timeline about demons and angels, and the origin of humanity (130 years ago???) that does not make any sense or have a shred of evidence. This is just another example of him putting baseless dates on imaginary events. This type of groundless and often superstitious speculation has no place whatsoever in rational arguments that must be based on evidence.”

Lundahl (2022j) then replies to me:

“I have not stated humanity originated 130 years ago. Angels and demons were created within a week back from Adam's creation, 7200 years ago. Each individual human person living now is however, perhaps above 120 years, but certainly under 130 years.

I check the quote he provided, and lo and behold, I had not forgotten "we are each" it is he who didn't notice the each.

‘they were created over 7200 years ago and made their mature decision for eternity right after creation, we were each created less than 130 years ago (I presume) and as long as we live, we have time to change, and some do so in the last moment, for better or for worse.’

Let's be clear. An angel living now or a demon living now, each of them is a few decades more than 7200 years old. They are immortals, and they do not procreate forming more angels and demons, whether they did or did not procreate forming nephelim before the Flood. A young angel or a young demon doesn't exist.

A man or woman living now was born later than 130 years ago. If I had been rambling in my classic fashion, I would have rambled on, and said "though as to age, not nature, the odds were more even between Adam and any tempter, since he was not much younger than they and lived to 930 years, but even so, due to superior nature, they could do some stuff beyond him to figure out.”

No, Mr. Lundahl, your writing is not clear. These paragraphs from Lundahl (2022a) and Lundahl (2022j) are full of reader unfriendly rambling and nonsense. Firstly, there’s not a shred of evidence that angels or demons exist, little alone that they were created 7,200 years ago. As seen in the evidence in Dalrymple (1991), the Earth is 4.54 +/-0.02 billion years old. Reinfort (2019) also demonstrates that the Solar System is far older than 7,200 years based on additional evidence besides Pb-Pb dating. Even among individuals that have tried to date the Earth with Biblical genealogies, there are large variations of at least 5,471 to 8,952 years ago (Dalrymple 1991, p. 14). Yet, Lundahl (2022j) dogmatically proclaims that the Earth is 7,200 years old and that angels and demons are only a few decades older than that.

Besides not having a shred of evidence to support any of his imaginary events of 7,200 years ago, Lundahl (2022j) goes on to make other blatant proclamations about Noah’s Flood. The essays on my website present evidence that demonstrates that a worldwide Noah’s Flood could never have happened about 4,300 years ago. Rather than presenting evidence or at least some references with his claims to convince us that they are true, Lundahl (2022j) just makes blanket statements about Adam, angels, demons, Noah’s Flood, etc. and expects us to blindly believe whatever he says.

Secondly, the original statement involving the 130 years ago in Lundahl (2022a) is awkward and unclear. Because Mr. Lundahl believes in geocentricism and has other unorthodox beliefs, I was not going to try to guess what he really meant by 130 years ago. Contrary to the claims in Lundahl (2022j), I saw the phrase “we were each” in Lundahl (2022a) as referring to all human beings, but that did not clear up the meaning of his inadequate writing. At least in the United States, when someone asks you your age, the most common reply would be something like:

“I’m 76 years old.”

Rather than:

“I was created 76 years ago.”

After referring to the supposedly creation of angels, demons, Adam and the Earth 7,200 years ago, Lundahl (2022a) then uses the same verb (created) to describe the origin of every living human being:

“…we were each created less than 130 years ago (I presume)”

That is, rather than possibly suggesting that each member of humanity was ex nihilo created by God in a Wachowskis matrix within the past 130 years or who knows what he meant, Lundahl (2022j) should have just clearly and precisely said:

“I presume that all of us are less than 130 years old.”

Mr. Lundahl has many strange and unrealistic beliefs about creationism, and he stubbornly and irrationally refuses to improve his writing skills. So, sometimes I can only guess what his poorly written and wild ideas actually mean.

References

Dalrymple, G.B. 1991. The Age of the Earth: Stanford, California, Stanford University Press, 474 pp.

Reinfort, E.M. 2019. Young-Universe Creationism Versus Naturalism: Comparing the Best Responses from Two Opposing Sides: Volume 2: 12 Questions on the Solar System, Amazon Digital Services, Kindle Edition.