jab tak in vishv ke netaon ne meree kitaaben padheen aur is vaidik sanskrti ko nahin le lete, tab tak unake paas kis prakaar kee sabhyata hogee? kutte kee daud ghodadaud. ve yah chaahate hain. choohe ki daud. bas itana hee. unakee sabhyata ek daud hai. kutte kee daud ghodadaud. choohe ki daud.
yahaan ham 28 joon, 1975 ko denavar, koloraado mein subah chalane ke dauraan apane divy anugrah e.see. bhaktivedaant svaamee prabhupaad aur unake kuchh shishyon ke beech ek eksachenj nishkarsh nikaala.
shreela prabhupaad: jab tak in duniya ke netaon ne meree kitaaben padheen aur is vaidik sanskrti ko nahin le liya, tab tak unake paas kis prakaar kee sabhyata hogee? kutte kee daud ghodadaud. ve yah chaahate hain. choohe ki daud. bas itana hee. unakee sabhyata ek daud hai. kutte kee daud ghodadaud. choohe ki daud. naagarik aatma ke is mahaan vigyaan ke baare mein kuchh bhee nahin jaanate hain. aadhunik sabhyata ka arth hai ki log bas raaskal, jaanavar ban rahe hain. beshak, kadaee se bolate hue, unakee motar daud hai. ve ek motar res ke lie aam kutte kee daud se aage badhe hain. lekin agar ek kutta vyakti chaar pairon par nahin chal raha hai, lekin chaar pahiyon par, kya isaka matalab hai ki vah kutta nahin hai? yah ek hee daud hai. ek hee daud-chaahe chaar pairon ya chaar pahiyon par chalakar. daud vahee hai, aur kutta vahee hai.
to yah sabhyata ek gauravashaalee kutta daud hai. aadhunik aadamee ko pata nahin hai, "mujhe kaar mein ghoomane par garv mahasoos ho sakata hai, lekin kya mujhe koee keemat nahin hai agar main apane jeevan ke arth ko samajh nahin pa raha hoon?" hamm? to yah chal raha hai. kutte resing ke lie ek bada, bada raajamaarg - yah aadhunik sabhyata hai.
aur jab raaskal yogee aur svaamee vaidik sanskrti ke apane sanskaran ko prastut karate hain, to ve kuchh kahate hain, "is anuvaanshik dhyaan se aap apane kutte kee daud ko bahut achchhee tarah se rakhenge." asal mein, ye yogee aur svaamee is bhautik sabhyata se pareshaan hain. "oh bahut achchha. yah bahut achchha hai. "yah sab kuchh hai. bhagavat-geeta krshna mein aisee vyaktitvon ka varnan kiya gaya hai. mohitam nabhajanatee maan eebhaah param ayyayam: "bhautik prakrti, moorkhon aur dushton ke tareekon se pareshaan mujhe nahin jaanate, jo mod aur atulaneey hain." aadhunik duniya aise mood, raaskal se bharee hai. to, phir, ekamaatr aasha yah hai ki aap jitanee jyaada ho sake meree kitaaben vitarit karate hain.
landan mein kutte resing ke lie ek bada stediyam hai. kya aap jaanate hain ki? bahut se log kutton kee daud dekhane jaate hain.
shishy: amerika mein kutte resing bhee bahut lokapriy hai. denavar mein, logon ko jaana pasand hai.
shreela prabhupaad: kutte kee daud ke lie? [hansee.]
shishy: ham aapakee kitaaben vitarit karane ke lie, shreela prabhupaad bhee gae hain.
shreela prabhupaad: ostreliya mein, sidanee-oh, ve kutte resing ka bahut shaukiya hain. kaee log resing ke lie apane bade kutte lete hain.
shishy: yah jua ke lie banaata hai.
shreela prabhupaad: aur yoorop mein, abhijaat varg hone ka arth hai kaee ghodon aur kaee kutton ko rakhana. vah abhijaat varg hai. abhijaat varg ghodon par savaaree karate hain, aur apane kutte lete hain, ve jangal mein jaate hain aur kuchh nirdosh pakshiyon ko maar dete hain. yah unakee veer gatividhiyon kee seema hai. [ek shishy ke lie:] kya aapako yaad hai ki mahal ham phraans mein dekhane ke lie gae the?
shishy: haan. holave mein unake paas pakshiyon aur lomadiyon kee hatya karane vaale abhijaat varg kee kaee tasveeren theen. in mahaan vyaktitvon aur unakee veer gatividhiyon ko yaad rakhane ke lie chitr.
shreela prabhupaad: peris mein hamane nepoliyan kee ek vishaal moorti dekhee. aur hamane nepoliyan ke ghamand ko yaad kiya, "main phraans hoon." phraans abhee bhee vahaan hai, lekin koee nepoliyan nahin hai. [hansee.] nepoliyan, samaapt ho gaya. hitalar, samaapt ho gaya. gaandhee, samaapt ho gaya.
shishy: shreela prabhupaad, usee sthaan par jahaan hamane nepoliyan kee moorti dekhee, poorv mein luees xiv mein se ek aur moorti thee. nepoliyan ne use neeche kheench liya aur ise apanee moorti ke saath badal diya.
shreela prabhupaad: aur kuchh din koee aur aaega aur nepoliyan kee moorti ko pratisthaapit karega. udaaharan ke lie, karaachee mein unhonne gaandhee kee moorti ko neeche kheench liya hai.
is bhautik sansaar mein kuchh bhee nahin rahega. to hamesha hare krshn ka jap karate hain. yah ek bahut hee khataranaak jagah hai. padam padam yaad vipadaam: yah ek aisa sthaan hai jahaan har kadam par khatara hota hai. abhee, udaaharan ke lie, ham ek bahut achchhe paark mein chal rahe hain, lekin kisee bhee samay ek kraanti ho sakatee hai aur pooree cheej badal sakatee hai. pooree baat aag kee tarah ho sakatee hai, jaisa ki ab yah bhaarat mein ban gaya hai. to hamen yaad rakhana chaahie ki yahaan is bhautik sansaar mein, padm padam yaad vipadaam: har kadam par khatare hai.
isalie, is jagah ke lie apana lagaav chhod den. vah asalee buddhi hai. aur phir bhee aadhunik shaikshanik pranaalee logon ko maaya-sukhaaya mein gumaraah kar rahee hai: asthaayee khushee ke lie bhavy yojanaen banaana. bas itana hee. agar katleaam mein jaanavaron ko bahut aaraam se rakha jaata hai, to isaka kya arth hai?
shishy: koee matalab nahin. ve abhee bhee katleaam honge.
shreela prabhupaad: yah sunishchit hai ki sabhee jaanavaron ko katl kar diya jaega. to agar ham kahate hain, to jaanavaron ko yah vyavastha kar sakatee hai ki "theek hai, katl karane se pahale, ham bahut aaraam se jeete hain," kya yah bahut achchhee buddhi hogee? khuphiya poochhataachh mein shaamil hai, "hamen kyon vadh kiya jaana chaahie? is vyavasaay ko kaise roken? "yah buddhi hai. aap katleaam ko kaise paribhaashit karate hain? boochadakhaan ka kya matalab hai?
shishy: ek katleaam ek aisa sthaan hai jahaan kaee jaanavaron ko kroorata se maarane ke lie bheja jaata hai.
shreela prabhupaad: haan. ek katleaam mein, kaee jaanavaron ko maarane ke lie spasht roop se ek saath laaya jaata hai. to yah pooree bhautik duniya ek boochadakhaan hai. aur jab aavashyakata ho, to kaee do pair vaale jaanavaron ko ek yuddh mein laaya jaega aur maara jaega.
yah jagah ek boochadakhaan hai. aur phir bhee moorkh do pair vaale jaanavar soch rahe hain, "ab main bahut aaraam se sthit hoon." vah bhool jaata hai, "mujhe katl karane ja raha hai." shreematee-sansaar-saagarat: "yah jagah vadh ka saagar hai." bhagavad mein -jeeta bhagavaan krshn ne pushti kee- mrti-sansaar-saagarat. yah jagah ek boochadakhaan hai. lekin log ise apane ghar ke roop mein sveekaar kar rahe hain. is bhautik sansaar ke lie ek aur naam mrtyu-lok hai. shreematee-loka- "maut kee jagah". lekin phir bhee, ve ise ek bahut hee aaraamadaayak jagah ke roop mein le ja rahe hain. yah unakee buddhi hai: ek kacharaagrh ko ek bahut achchhee jagah ke roop mein sveekaar karana. jab aap in cheejon ko in jaanavaron ko ingit karate hain jinhen katleaam karane ja rahe hain, to ve kaise pratikriya dete hain?
shishy: theek hai, shreela prabhupaad, kuchh dinon pahale, nyooyork mein, ek bijalee bolt ne ek eyaralainar ko maara aur use ek bade raajamaarg par durghatanaagrast kar diya. ek bhayaanak, bhayaavah drshy, saikadon log peeda mein chillaane ke saath chillaate hue apane jeevan kho gae. usake baad, main denavar havaee adde par apanee kitaaben paar kar raha tha aur ullekh kar raha tha, "us nyooyork durghatana ke baare mein kaise? aisa lagata hai ki ham mein se koee bhee kisee bhee kshan mar sakata hai, aapako pata hai? "
lekin tarminal mein jyaadaatar log apanee kurakure kursiyon se dekhe aur kaha, "oh, mujhe apana poora jeevan mere saamane mil gaya hai." aisee cheejen. "main aage badhane ke lie apana dhyaan samarpit kar raha hoon. main is tarah kee nakaaraatmak soch mein shaamil hone ke lie apane jeevan ka aanand le raha hoon. "
shreela prabhupaad: oh. sirph dekho. slotarahaus. lekin phir bhee, kisee bhee tarah se log katleaam ke bheetar asalee, sthaayee aaraam dhoondhane kee ummeed karate hain.
shishy: shreela prabhupaad, los enjils mein doosare din aapake vyaakhyaan mein, aapane kaha ki jab ek mahaan yuddh hota hai, to kaee logon kee maut ho jaatee hai, ise supreem dvaara vyavasthit kiya gaya hai. kurukshetr kee ladaee mein.
shreela prabhupaad: haan. krshna ne arjun ko tathy bataaya hai. "aap apane parivaar ke sadasyon ke lie gahan sneh mahasoos kar rahe hain, bhale hee ve bade paimaane par hamale karake apane raajy ko ukhaad phenkane kee koshish kar rahe hain. aap soch rahe hain, bahut hee achchhe, ki aap apane parivaar ke sadasyon ko maarana nahin chaahate hain.
lekin yah pahale hee tay ho chuka hai. unhen yahaan maara jaana chaahie. mainne unhen laaya hai. aap unhen maar sakate hain ya unhen maar nahin sakate-ve maare jaenge. vah meree yojana hai. yadi aap chaahate hain, to aap kredit le sakate hain ki aap yuddh mein vijayee hue hain. "
aur aadhunik yuddh ek hee tarah kee vyavastha hai. yah sab yojanaapoorn hai. yuddh ka matalab hai ki kaee do pair vaale jaanavaron ko ek saath laakar unhen maarana. khatm hona. aur yah har baar hota ja raha hai. hatya ke lie ek nepoliyan bheja ja raha hai. ya hatya ke lie ek hitalar bheja ja raha hai. bhaarat mein, bhagavaan svayan hatya ke lie aata hai. bhagavaan raamakandr raavan kee hatya ke lie aae, aur bhagavaan krshn kauravon kee hatya ke lie aae.
shishy: lekin, shreela prabhupaad, in bade yuddhon mein bhagavaan ke bhakt maare gae nahin hain?
kurukshetr kee ladaee ke dauraan bhee yah sach nahin tha?
shreela prabhupaad: theek hai, kurukshetr kee ladaee ke dauraan, sabhee paanch paandav bhaiyon ko bachaaya gaya tha. jab ladaee khatm ho gaee, to sabhee paanch bhaee bane rahe. to jab koee yuddh hota hai, to yah nahin hai ki sabhee bhakton ko bachaaya jaata hai, lekin jyaadaatar ve bachae jaate hain. aur sabase mahatvapoorn baat yah hai ki krshn aashvaasan dete hain,
janma karma ca me divyam
evam yo vetti tattvatah
tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti mam eti so ‘rjuna
"is shareer ko chhodane par, jo log mere aagaman aur gatividhiyon kee anuvaanshik prakrti ko jaanate hain, ve kabhee bhee is dukhee aur asthaayee bhautik duniya mein vaapas nahin aate hain. isake bajaay, ve mere paas ghar vaapas aate hain. "