The following conversation between His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and some of his disciples took place during an early-morning walk in Geneva on June 6, 1974.

Srila Prabhupada: Meat-eating is the main barrier to understanding God. The meat-eaters will never be able to understand Him.

Disciple: That priest you were talking with last night is a good example. He said to you, “Let us go on to higher topics. We’ve been talking so long about meat-eating.”

Srila Prabhupada: Yes.

Disciple: You said, “Well, if you are sinful, it is useless to go on to a higher topic.”