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Conceptual Notional Preexistence refers to the idea that certain things existed in the mind or plan of God before they existed in the earth12345. It is a technical term used in early Jewish and early Christian texts to describe the pre-existence of Jesus and other entities. 1. In order to focus on the notional concept of pre-existence, John 1.1 needs to be consulted and analyzed piece-by-piece. “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God” (John 1.1). https://21stcr.org/commentaries/preexistence-overview/preexistence-articles/literal-and-notional-pre-existence/

2. Capes’ two categories of preexistence, “ideal” and “actual,” adequately set the stage for the debate. We may also choose to use the categories of notional preexistence (“ideal”) and literal preexistence (“actual”). https://www.theologicalconference.org/media/docs/pdf/2015/Dustin.pdf

3. In contrast to the Greek view of literal preexistence, the predominantly Jewish authors of the Bible held to a notional or ideal preexistence in which all things of importance existed, not literally, but notionally in the mind or plan of God before they existed in the earth. https://onegodworship.com/jesus-preexistence-a-critical-look-at-greek-and-jewish-views/

4. Some Christians -- especially Biblical Unitarians -- believe that Jesus only pre-existed notionally/ideally in God's mind prior to his conception in Mary's womb (just like any other human being), contrary to more popular views such as that Jesus has existed since eternity (the view of most Christians) or since a long time ago (the view of Jehova… https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/86513/what-is-the-biblical-basis-for-the-notional-ideal-pre-existence-of-jesus-as-opp

5. It’s a technical term, scholarly jargon/shorthand, to designate a motif or concept evident in a number of early Jewish and early Christian texts. In particular, a number of early Christian texts ascribe a “pre-existence” to Jesus. But there is a certain complexity, so I’ll attempt to elucidate matters. https://larryhurtado.wordpress.com/2019/02/06/pre-existence-in-ancient-jewish-tradition-and-the-nt/

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THE PRE-EXISTENCE

ECHAD = ONE

By Voy Wilks

11/8/93

The Meaning of One

It is strange that "one" (the number that equals half the value of two) really means one (1) {O-N-E} in every case under the sun which man puts it to except when it refers to the Supreme Being. In school, in math, in business, in book-keeping, and in football, "one" really means one. But when it refers to Yahweh, it can then (supposedly) mean one, two or three, owing to the religious view of the person speaking. This is astonishing. One can equal ONE, TWO or THREE. If this is true of one, why is it not true of four as well? Perhaps four can equal eight, twelve or sixteen.

To find  "proof" for the pre-existence of Yahshua, some people tend to ignore Old Testament Scriptures and get most of their"proof" from the New Testament. But they forget that the New Testament depends on the Old for its existence, its very being. Yahshua and the Apostles proved their doctrine by Old Testament Scriptures, so why shouldn't we?

Contradictions & Additions

What happens when there is a contradiction in our English Versions between  the Old Testament and the New Testament. Thankfully, this happens in only a few places, but it does happen. The Old Testament tells us that Yahweh alone created the heavens and the earth (Nehemyah 9:6; Isayah 45:18). The New Testament tells us Yahshua created all things (Eph. 3:9; Heb. 1:2).

If the contradictions is in reference to the pre-existence of Yahshua, most people are willing to forget the Old, original Scriptures and accept English translations of the New. This is contrary to the teachings of Yahshua and the Apostles. For doctrine, they relied on the Old Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:14-17).

Please be aware that it is indeed possible for glosses to appear in the Sacred Writings. A good example is 1 John 5:7-8 which was not found in any Greek manuscript or English Bible until the 16th century. if it were impossible for additions and subtractions to appear in the Sacred Writings, there would have been no need for warnings against making additions and subtractions (Rev. 22:18; Deut. 4:2, 12:32; Prov. 30:6; Eccl. 3:14).

Echad = One

An original number names a place in a sequence,as follows: first, second, third, forth, etc. In contrast, a cardinal number tells how many; one,two, three, ten, or twenty-five. Both echad and one are cardinal numbers, Therefore, being a cardinal number, echad (one) tells us how many; only one Yahweh (Deut. 6:4; John 17:13). Ignoring this fact, some hope, by a play on the word, to make echad mean more than one. In reality, echad (#259) has exactly the same meaning as the English word one; namely, half the value of two. Some make the claim that echad means unity, and Strong's Concordance is sited as proof. But is this proof? No. Because Mr. James Strong believed in the pagan doctrine of the Trinity, he only stated this so others would have an accuse to believe in the Trinity as he did.

Please examine Mr. Strong's Lexicon of Hebrew words. He says echad (#259), means unity, but notice this revealing bit of evidence. According to Strong's Concordance, not once did the King James men translate echad as "unity", at least occasionally. But no. Never once is this done.

Mr. E. W. Bullinger's comment in the Companion Bible is also cited. About Deut, 6:4 he wrote, "One: Hebrew, 'ehad [echad misspelled?] = compound unity (Latin, unus), one made up of others; Gen. 1:5, one of seven; 2:11, one of four; 2:21, one of twenty-four; 2:24, one made up of two; 3:22, one of the Trinity, ..."

According to Mr. Bullinger, echad equals one (or as many as twenty four?). People, he only threw down a smoke screen. Why did he tell us this? Because he too believed in the pagan doctrine of the Trinity, and needed support for it.

How is the Hebrew word (echad) translated in the King James Bible? Let us look at some reliable evidence in Young's Concordance. Turn to "echad" listed in Young's Lexicon, please. Here are the ways in which echad is translated in the King James Bible:

a (an)         56 times

a certain     09 times

another      31 times

any            17 times

a portion    11 times

each one    02 times

every         04 times

few (pl)      03 times

first            36 times

once          10 times

only           04 times

other          30 times

some          05 times

one            497 times  

Echad is translated one time each by the following words:alike, alone, altogether, anything, each man, man, at once, with one consent.

Echad: Translated  "Some" (5 times)    

Five times the word echad is in the King James Bible translated"some." Obviously, the word "some" is plural and, in most cases, means more than one. But let us examine the Scripture references in which echad is translated "some."

"Come now, therefore, and let us slay him, and cast him into some pit, and we will say, ... (Gen. 7:20).

Obviously, Jacob's son planned to cast Joseph's body into ONE pit, not TWO or THREE pits - somewhere in the area. The NIV Interlinear reads "one of" these pits. A great many versions agrees; such as the RSV, ASV, Emphasized, Moffatt, Lamsa, Good News, etc.

"Some" is clearly a poor choice for translating echad. The other four references are: 1 Sam. 27:5; 2 Sam. 27:9,12;2 Kings 2:16.In every one of these, the NIV Interlinear reads, "one of", not"some."

Achadim Translated "Few"

As can be immediately noticed, this is not the Hebrew word echad, but a plural kindred word, achadim, so we need not spend more time studying it at this time. However, the references are only three:Gen. 27:44, 29:20; Dan. 11:20.

Yachad = Unity

Since some have stressed the word "unity," perhaps it will be helpful to call attention to a related word, "yachad."Please notice that unity is not translated from echad, but from yachad. But only one time (Ps. 133:1). Once yachad is translated "unite"(Gen. 49:6), and once "united" (Ps. 86:11). Yachad is also translated together, 120 times.

Ke-echad

Perhaps we should mention one other word; the compound word"ke-echad," translated "together" five times (Ezra 2:64,3:9, 6:20; Nehemyah 7:66; Isayah 65:25). Once the people gathered in one place they were ke-echad; that is together.

Echad: A Cardinal Number

One      = echad

Two      = Shenayim

Three    = shalosh, sheloshah

Four     = arba  

Five      = chamesh, chamisha

Six        = Shesh, shishshah

Seven    = sheba, shibah

Eight      = shemoneh, shemonah

Nine      = tesha, tishah

Ten        = eser, asarah

The Testimony of Scriptures

*     "...know therefore this day, and lay it to your heart, that Yahweh is Elohim in heaven and on the earth beneath; there is NO OTHER" (Deut. 4:35,39). This is Mono-el-ism.

Webmaster's Note: The above verse clearly makes it known "... that Yahwehis the Almighty One, [{God}Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex.20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] in heaven and on the earth beneath; there is NO OTHER." Is there any mention whatsoever of a doctrine throughout the whole of Scripture (so-called "Old Testament" and "New Testament") of  "Jesus IS God!"? Certainly not!

*     "Hear O Ysryl: Yahweh our Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah,Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex.20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] is O-N-E [echad]Yahweh" (Deut. 6:4).

If ONE Yahweh really equals TWO [Yahwehs], as some believe, then Deut. 6:4 should read as follows:

'Hear O Ysryl: Yahweh our Almighty One [{"God,Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] are shenayim [TWO] Yahwehs.'

But it doesn't. There are no verses in  Scripture that reads this way, nor is this the meaning of the Shema (Deut. 6:4).

**     Yahweh,Who spoke to the prophets, is not acquainted with any other Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut.4:35,39] (Isayah 44:8). This is Yahweh's personal report.

*     Yahweh is the only Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut.4:35,39] . There is no other (Isayah 45:18,22). Yahweh's personal report.

*     Beside Me[Yahweh], there is no Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One,El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen.2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] (Isayah 44:6, 45:21). Yahweh's personal report.

**     "... that you might know that Yahweh is the Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex.20:10; Deut. 4:35,39]; there is no other besides HIM" (Deut. 4:35). This is Yahweh's personal report; the same Yahweh Who spoke to the prophets of old, who also reported this truth.

*      There is one(and only one) lone Yahweh (Nehemyah 9:6; 2 Sam. 19:15,19; Ps. 83:18,86:9-10; Isayah 37:16,19).

**      No Almighty One was formed, therefore none existed before Yahweh, the Almighty One[{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39]  of Abraham. This was the Almighty One Who communicated with the ancient prophets.

** Webmaster's Note: This is Father Yahweh the Almighty One[{"God,Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] Who communicated or spoke to the ancient prophets of oldand not His son Yahshua. Father Yahweh only spoke to His son Yahshua in this last time period as Hebrews 1:1-2 makes perfectly clear. The prophets of old were the spokesmen of Father Yahweh word before Yahshua came into existence in this last time period. It was then that His son Yahshua became the spokesman of his and our Father Yahweh's word.

*     "I  am Yahweh, that is My Name; My esteem ["glory"] I give to no other, ..." (Isayah 2:8, 44:11). Here, Yahweh's esteem["glory"] is indicated by His Name apparently. He gives neither His Name (in whole) or His esteem ["glory"] to another. His son's name was not Yahweh, but Yahshua, meaning "Yahweh's Redemption"  or "Yahweh is Redeemer." Therefore, there is no other Yahweh. Yahweh's personal report.

*     Yahweh (the Mighty One of Ysryl and the prophets) was the first Almighty One[{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39] to exist. He was also the last to come into existence (Isayah 44:6, 48:12). None has come into existence after Him. All others are fake (Isayah 46:9). Yahweh's personal report.

Conclusion

My friends are mutilating the languages (Hebrew, Greek and English) by saying o-n-e really means TWO, or in some cases, more than TWO. Question: If o-n-e really means t-w-o, what does TWO mean?

Brethren, there are more than 100 Scriptures that reveal that Yahweh is the Creator. Many Scriptures reveal there is only O-N-E Yahweh and O-N-E true Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh, Gen. 2:4; Ex.20:10; Deut. 4:35,39]. The whole of Scripture is based on this one over-riding premise. The nations (Heb. goyim - gentiles, heathens, strangers, outsiders, etc.) honor many almighty ones "[Heb. - el, eloah, elohim,or English - god, godsor deities]; but as for me and my house,we will honor only ONE Almighty One [{"God, Deity"} Mighty One, El, Eloah, Elohim - Yahweh,Gen. 2:4; Ex. 20:10; Deut. 4:35,39]: Yahweh. This one Yahweh is not a Twinity[Duality] or a Trinity ["Triune God"]. HE is ONE; the only Yahweh Who exists, as the Scriptures indicate:

"You believe there is one Yahweh; you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble" (Yaaqob [James} 2:19).

The view that echad makes two Yahwehs out of ONE can be laid to rest for all time, as this view does not stand the test.

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