Part 2.

His childhood experience growing up in America, His hope for mother and the Asian providence

3) His childhood experience growing up in America

You know, since I am a prankster, when Mother was nervous and changing her clothes, and I was not supposed to be there, I peeked at her, but peeked at her in a way that she knew I was peering at her [laughs]. Then she was screaming, "Yah! Get out of here!" I was joking like that.

Mother was a very strict traditional Korean mother. [Korean mothers] are stiff, if the clothes do not go well, if the clothes are not suitable and do not go well for the image ... it is all a matter of image, of honor. The oriental culture is very like that. Mother is not the only person like that; most Korean and Asian women are like that. They think a lot about the image, especially if they come from a high-ranking family.

She always tried to dress well, with complete polo shirts. I hated that style. I was a skateboard lover, I had ragged clothes, and this made her angry. When I was younger, I grew long hair, which made her angry [laughs]. Then, when I was training with Buddhist monks, it made her angry [laughs]. I never wanted to be in the box of that upper class, dad's sons. I hated it! It was my nightmare. All my high school friends were boys belonging to minorities: blacks, Hispanics, Italians. These were my best friends. I did not get along with that sort of elite culture of dad's white sons. It was not in my character.

In that world, since we were a high-ranking family, there was always the pressure to try to put the boys in that box, so that we could integrate ourselves with the elite. However, for me, my spirit was screaming against being stuck in that box.

Richard Panzer:

I am very interested in something you said. Father has chosen to make you grow in America and I have reflected a bit on this, because what would have happened if you had grown up in Korea? Growing up in America, as you just said, knowing the minority boys, you would not have known...

Hyung Jin Nim:

It is true. We would have been like normal big boy’s guilds, spoiled brats, and super elite. I rebelled against this when I was younger, which is why I started training in martial arts, martial arts for combat. There you train with street wrestlers, with professional wrestlers; you train with people fighting in the ring or inside the cages. These, are the people, you work with. They are not what you would call the "elite pole", they are all covered with tattoos; this is the people with whom you sweat, and who sweats at you. It was a totally different culture. God guided me to get away from that kind of elite culture in which everyone tried to fit us. Especially ladies, they like to push us, into this kind of culture, turn all the males into gentlemen, or this kind of thing.

I am a gentleman, but I am so grateful to have been able to experience that subculture, all those wrestlers, people who are not considered part of the elite or members of high society, but who are truly exceptional for their fighting spirit, their ability, their passion for studying martial arts. I am so grateful to have I could totally contact and train with this kind of subculture. I think it was a great benefit, a huge benefit. Something I could never have in Korea, that being in contact with minorities or with these types of subcultures, the "fight clubs". This is not part of the agenda of the great elites. This is why I think it was important that God spiritually allowed me to go through these things, because this allowed me to understand freedom and responsibility. Because the centralized powers around the elites are dangerous, they are very dangerous, and, it has been consistently throughout history shown that, they are dangerous. I think the fact that I grew up in the West was a great benefit.

My brother Young Jin probably had more influence on me; he is the one who was a year older than I was. He trained me for about a year to do well at school. I was always a terrible student, which is why I could not be admitted anywhere as a boss. I was not part of the group that commands. I was so bad at school that I could not get anything. After high school, he practically taught me for a year to study, to study well, and to excel in the academic field. But it was more than that, because he really invested in me, he really took care of me, he was so compassionate; even if he was a year older than me he did not treat me badly. He had a great impact on me when I was younger.

All my brothers and sisters have contributed preciously to my development. We love him. There are so many things that people do not know about the whole situation, etc. and it is easy to have complaints about them; but in the end they too are people who must find faith, they too are people who must find faith in the Father, whether they believe in him or not.

This is when we were younger. Of course, when we grew up - of course, everyone knows it. I think Kook Jin is the one who really has a huge impact on me concerning understanding the economy, the free markets, understanding what freedom is and how precious it is: the "Freedom Society".

Father was incredibly delighted and happy when Kook Jin Nim did the campaigns of "Strong Korea, Strong Japan and Strong America" trying to help these countries become free. "Watch out for these other powers that can come". Father was happy with these things. The idea of identifying the government in the Archangel - the government as Archangel -. It was the first time. Father was very enthusiastic about this, because, he was constantly been persecuted by the Archangel, in a centralized form that was the government, wherever he went: in North Korea, in South Korea, in the United States, wherever he was. When I shared this with the Father, he was so enthusiastic.

I think Kook Jon is truly a genius in understanding the organization, understanding the culture of an organization, understanding honor, integrity. He is a true warrior; respects the code of honor. In terms of leadership, I learned so much from Kook Jon as an adult. I think that, when we were younger, there are brothers and sisters at different times (that helped me). However, as an adult, I learned from Kook Jon to understand what leadership is, to understand the organization and things like that, which is a very different field, from theology; learning macroeconomics and similar things, a very separate field but that is important to understand.

4) His hope for mother and the Asian providence

We hoped that Mother would be humble before Father and raise him up. If she were like Mother Teresa, she would be humble before Christ; she would praise, glorify and share all the deep and intimate things of love; the profound moments of intimacy she had with him; those good times next to him that were given to her. If she had shared this, if she had lifted him up as her savior, if she had lifted him up as her Messiah, recognizing that she is a sinner, as the Bible says, we are dirty rags before God - but then through Christ, through Father, is reborn, has been made new, a new creature, could have stood in her position with Father. If she had done this, she would be a True Mother. She would be a Mother who has realized the perfection of the position of object, which is the perfection of Eve. Eve's perfection is not being in the subject position. Eve is not the subject. There Perfection of Eve is accomplishing the perfection of the object partner, which is raising the subject, loving the subject more than anyone else. If she had done this, there would have been glory all over the world. The whole world would bow to her.

If she had this spirit, she would have found herself directly where we were Kook Jin Nim and I because that was our mission, which was our purpose; if she had been there with us, we had already made a huge foundation in the East, which had never been created before. Kook Jon, for example, had already met the current Presidents of Japan and Korea before they became Presidents. He had already helped numerous members of the elite of the political classes and had worked with them educating them on "Strong Korea". He had been invited to all those big 5-star events to talk about why Korea must be a strong nation. It had already been admitted by top CEOs among the two hundred leading conglomerate business groups in Korea; it had been put on the head of the magazine C.O. For the first time in history, all our businesses were profitable. There was a huge change; all the most influential people in Korea and Asia were realizing that this person was an extraordinary emerging leader. He had been invited to several events at Samsung and LG; he had ended up recruiting many of their people in the statute (?), and these are very smart people.

So it was a huge change, something that had never been done in Korea before. The businesses were in red. They were run by people who had no business knowledge. Their business idea was to be subsidized by Father, which is the system of communism. They had no idea of what it means to compete in a free market, something that Kook Jon had already done with his business in the last 20 years, becoming one of the ten most important companies in his industry with a company that was bankrupt. So he knew the strategy, he knew the competitions of the free market, how to compete in that world. He had created a huge foundation; he had already paved the way to the highest levels of government, the Department of Defense. The current Vice President supported us; it was like having the Vice President of National Security come to our support.

On the other hand, in the religious world, we had made great progress with the largest Buddhist organization; there are millions and millions of people in this organization. The head of the monks came to our Shrine and I visited him often. So even in the religious world we were already creating links with all these national religious leaders. It was a time when we were inwardly getting rid of all the corruption, lobbies, small institutions, all those little fiefs that all the Korean leaders had created. We were dismantling them and their abuse of Japanese members. We were dismantling that entire racket and that system of exploitation.

Father fully allowed us to do it; he gave us all the approvals to do it, because for every important decision we went to him to receive approval. In fact, Father had to sign to give approval or not. So this was a huge change. Kook Jon and I, were so fraternally united in the decision, that we would work to free people from the iron fist of those Korean leaders who had created this system above them, and then, of course, used Father as a scapegoat for doing this. However, the Father was not a micro-manager, he did things but then he blessed people to bring them forward, and they could create their own things; he did not micro-manage everything. It was not a maniac of checking all the details. So the result of what the church had become were all these small fiefdoms of competing Korean blocks, of small criminal organizations that tried to steal as much as they could and then put the blame on Father or his family as a scapegoat, in a way or another.

That racket was being dismantled and Father completely gave us permission to destroy it. In practice, if Mother had remained in her position, if she had lifted up Father and understood that her children were working for the freedom of people, she would have had tremendous success. She would have had an extraordinary victory. She would have been an extraordinary woman and would have been honored as the True Mother instead of what she has become now.

Richard Panzer:

To me it is very significant that you, Kook Jin Nim and Yeonah Nim, wanted Mother to be victorious.

Hyung Jin Nim:

Yes, of course! Kook Jon had established for her the "Mission Foundation" so that she would have the resources, which she would not have to go to beg from people. It had about half a billion dollars, which practically all of them went because, she was robbed by people who say they love her: "Give me $ 40 million, blah blah, blah". It is gone; it is practically gone, from what I hear. And you can see how they try to strangle the Japanese more and more. Again, if she had remained in her position of object and had not desired a position that is not her, then she would have been glorified, she would have realized the perfection of Eve. This is the kind of tragedy: because of her lust for power, she fell and lost that position, lost the glory she could have had. This, however, does not mean that Father's victory is over. The kingdom will come; will come not through the blessing but tribulation, as Father prophesied.