A narrative emerged related to the current state of World Englishes (WE) and English as a Medium of Instruction (EMI) courses from several interviews with experts in the field, including Dr. Jennifer Jenkins, Dr. Aya Matsuda, Dr. Nobuyuki Hino, and Dr. Ahmar Mahboob. In this presentation, we introduce our method of investigation and what we have learned about the current state of these academic fields, which includes strong disagreement on the future directions of related research among these and other experts.