Why choose pain

I frequently read online of people who are utterly appalled at some of the supposed choices that the higher-self can "choose to experience" through an incarnation. Their argument is, "How, why, and can a being choose to experience pain, suffering and various traumas?" "what could one possibly benefit from such experiences?" How could one "choose not only this, but to commit or do so unto others".

First of all. In my research and communications with Spirit, there is no answer that will satisfy these questions. Why? Because they are emotionally charged statements of horror that are demanding divine intervention and apology for how they perceive the world around them. Also it is very likely that answers to such questions will only cause more discomfort, pain, and anger.

Now I know this will probably get me chased out of town with pitch forks.... But such topics really are best discussed from a distance. Take many steps away and thought about in a more academic-explore all ideas point of view. Otherwise one will never get over the emotion behind such questions.

Upon stepping back we see that we have many ingrained beliefs about the Spiritual world. Right or wrong it doesn't matter for this discussion. Look at the beliefs in an abstract way. Look at ones that describe the Origin of mankind. Look at ones that describe the God concept. Look at ones that describe the interaction of Spirit and mankind. Look at the ones that deal with living in the afterlife, and reincarnation. Many times these beliefs do not co-habituate very well. Many times they are incomplete in the extreme and in fact contradict one another. And depending on their nature and their Origin; they may be self developed, or learned, or be from a religion or be from an amalgamation of incomplete and inconsistent Origins. It's a good bet that even thinking about what beliefs you hold to, can bring about discomfort and fear.

Now how do we deal with all this?

How much time do you wish to spend on understanding?

And will you try to just "get a feel" for it all, or will you label everything or will you try to apply any of it to your life, and does it even matter?

I ask all these questions in response because how you answer will define the answers to the original questions of "horrors in life". Here is something else to think on. Depending on your beliefs, the same horror and opportunity for "free will horrific choices" may exist in the after life as well as here on earth.

From my point of view; No one and no Spirit can tell you definitive answers because so much relies on what your willing to accept, believe, experience, and understand. I can tell you the sky is blue, but if you don't go outside and look at it, how will you know for sure? Are you even willing to go outside? Do you NEED to? What will happen if you don't?

I think that's all I have to say on the matter. There has literally been thousands of written words on the nature of mankind as it pertains to free will, reincarnation, the nature of good vs/ evil. Why rehash? Why pour out emotional responses every time a new plea comes in? Really the best answer is to ask more questions. For by asking questions and seeking your own answers you will eventually discover and create your own reality.

An alternative thought on lives immersed in certain hardships.

Sometimes we all think, ponder why some people are born into miserable lives. I've often wondered. And sometimes have gotten fairly mad and offended about it. Last week I was thinking about it again and I heard this from Spirit:

"Do not underestimate the "emotional experience, the feeling, and sensations" felt in the physical plane. The release from such experiences can rival any known pleasure. Sometimes, hardship, bondage, burdens, and the horrors of life are chosen simply to experience the rush of freedom. Be it in corporeal life or in the moments of transition. The rush of release can be ecstatic that is hard to simulate in Spirit." ---FC ~A Spirit I deeply respect.

I know such a statement is going to be hard to take by some people. But I tend to believe it. I remember what the Spirit Seth once said; Something along the lines of, "I once had a life where I was a woman in poverty with a ton of kids. Everyone kept trying to help me and make my life better, but it never worked. That is because I wanted to experience that type of life." I also remember what my maternal grandmother said through Robert. That the reason she lived most of her life bound to a wheel-chair and bed with crippling arthritis and osteoporosis and other severe health problems was because she was a higher evolved spirit and one of the things she wanted to work on was exploring fortitude under physical restrictions. Later on, she indicated to me through my own personal experience that many times; although it pains them, that sometimes Spirit doesn't interfere because it would totally go against what our higher-self wished to go through, what it planed....For example, she mentioned to Robert how hopping mad and pissed she was when she found out how much fear my guides put me through in this life. Because one of the biggest things in this life I wanted to work on was Spiritual fear. Fear of all types. A few months ago I even asked her for help with an experience and she said no! That I had to work on it more!.

On a side note, when Robert channeled her. She told us that she wanted her wheel chair back! She was always complaining about that when she went into a nursing home! I did not tell Robert that.... There was no way he could have known, because I had totally forgotten about it! It was a major complaint of hers. One of much humor too.

Some thing I was thinking about the other day:

Spirit once said the following to me,

"Physical violence is often justified in the morality of individuals and group. It can be an incomplete view. Such responsiveness has many aspects that can not be easily be dismissed. But we should seek to understand that physical action has many unintended consequences. While violence is an effect of cause, physical reaction itself is an cause to many things unseen. All this becomes a series of chain reactions that is often hasty in creation and not easily broken. Trouble can often be averted by the simple mindfulness of patience. If our first reaction is to pause, we can sometimes find the will to think about the experience of the now."

I often struggle with this concept. Conflicted. It's not an easy topic to talk about. Mental, physical, individual, family, group, or even cultural aspects. On the one hand you have violence in crimes. In another you have violence done by societies in group action. And then you have everyday violence such as spanking a child. I sometimes wonder if violence doesn't touch me phycially do I have to worry about it? Does any of it matter?

Personally as a child my parents used corporal punishment. As a teen I was bullied. As an adult I've only had past life memories and emotions of violence and what I see in the medias. But violence has touched me most through the lives of others. Mostly this came from crimes that affected friends or how I felt about war. I also ponder violence in our society and it's impact on people. Everything from Spanking to video games.

I've also had mixed signals from the Spirit world on these matters.

So my next question would be, How do we stop violence in our lives, and as a society? Is there any right answer?