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Issue from a Christians Perspective :
Their Actions are rejected by their own Scholars [watch this Video]
Jewish rabbi calls for Israel not to exist
The Money to Kill Millions of people and fight illegal wars in foreign countries is paid by American and European tax payers who happen to be Christians , so if they put a BIBLE Angle to this , most believers are followers and stay away from complex religious point but will Agree to Bible as that's the BASE of their Faith and when things are channeled through belief system for masses they Accept it without challenging its interpretation and will continue to support and pay TAXES .
SO their FINANCE will be ongoing if the PROPAGANDA OF RELIGION IS KEPT GOING
Lets look at the SCRIPT and see what it actually says
The earliest known people of Palestine came from the Arabian Peninsula. They are called the Canaanites by western scholars. Because they were the descendants of Canaan, the son of Ham.
The name is also used for the territory now known as Palestine, which the Jews would prefer to call Israel. In the first book of the Bible we may read how Jehovah promised Abraham’s (peace be upon him ) offspring the Land of Canaan:
“And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.” (Genesis 17)
Abraham (peace be upon him ) had two sons: the firstborn was Ishmael (peace be upon him ) , the second, Isaac (peace be upon him ) . The Arabs are the children of Ishmael (peace be upon him ) and the Jews are the children of Israel or Jacob (peace be upon him ) , the second son of Isaac.
The Jewish claim is that only the children of Israel deserve the Promised Land; because Ishmael’s (peace be upon him ) mother was only a handmaiden of Sarah (peace be upon her ) , the mother of Isaac (peace be upon him ) .
Part of the present complexity of the Palestinian Problem arises from the above claim. In the Book of Deuteronomy, the sixth book of the Bible, we read:
“If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have borne him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: but he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.” (Deuteronomy 21:15-17)
It is clear from the above passage of the Jewish Bible itself, that neither Ishmael (peace be upon him ) nor his children can be denied their birthright; but the perverse racism of most of the Children of Israel made them adopt an unjust policy towards their brethren.
The Zionists who come from Eastern Europe for instance, want the people living in Palestine to vacate the land to give way to Jewish settlements, because God had promised the Land to them about 4000 years ago!
The early Zionists used to say that they were claiming “a land without people for a people without land”; which means that they just refused to take note of their own brethren who had been living in that land for thousands of years.
In 1969, Golda Maier, the former Prime Minister of Israel echoed the same idea in other words:
“There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed.”
This means that the Zionists are not prepared even to acknowledge the existence of the people who were born and brought up in Palestine, on the plea that they were not Jews. And at the time of the Balfour Declaration in 1917, only 7% of the 700,000 inhabitants of Palestine were Jews; the rest were Christians and Muslims.
If so, is it reasonable to believe that the All-Merciful God would bless the Zionist plan of genocide against the Children of Ishmael, for the reason that their mother was a bondwoman? Isn’t it hypocritical of the modern apostles of human rights to ignore the cry of Sabra-Shatila and Jenin?
SO lets look at the PROMISE :
And I will give unto thee : it was given as we know the history to THEE ( ABRAHAM peace be upon him )
and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession : here the promise says it will be an ever lasting possession after it is given ?so if The current ISRAELI conflict as we know these people migrated from Eurpoe and are now FIGHTING to REPOSSESS . This goes against the text or FALSIFIES the text that ever lasting possession promise was not fulfilled if we take the ZONIST Interpretation , the TEXT stands true only if we Accept that current day Palestinians are the ones from Abrahams peace be upon him Seed and were referred by the TEXT . because they were always there and are still there in-spite of more than decade long siege and never ending massacre . And this possession had nothing to do with Administration of LAND or Ruling as Maps change ,Boundaries change and the purpose of relegion is not TO RULE over others but to live life in harmony with Nature and others living . RULING MAY FEED EGO but does nothing to please god if it is done this way ...
Lets break this further into question and answers form
WHO MADE THE PROMISE ?
GOD
TO WHOM WAS THIS PROMISE MADE ?
Prophet Abraham peace be upon him and his children ( not to ZONISTS OR JEWS IN SPECIFIC Christians and Muslims are also included in promise as there are also from Abraham peace be upon him )
WHEN WILL THIS PROMISE BE DELIVERED ?
AT THE TIME OF PROPHET ABRAHAM PEACE BE UPON HIM - that is past tense now , this was said then that it will be delivered and so it happened
AS PER THE TEXT DOES PROMISE INCLUDE CURRENT TIME ?
Not the Delivery of land because it was fulfilled at the time of prophet Abraham peace be upon him , what is valid for current time is every lasting possession part of that text which is with Palestinians not with Zonists because zonists did not have it until 1882 , even that LAND Grabbing was not valid According to TORAH or BIBLE
WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF GODS WORD SAYS ABRAHAMS (peace be upon him ) AND HIS CHILDREN WILL HAVE EVER LASTING POSSESSION and THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE PROMISED LAND , LOST POSSESSION for CENTURIES
logically it means
1. The SCRIPTS PROPHECY WENT WRONG
2. THE TEXT WAS NOT GODS WORD OR IT WAS NOT DOCUMENTED AS IT WAS REVEALED
3. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SCRIPT , THEIR LOSS OF POSSESSION FOR CENTURIES IS GODS WAY TO COMMUNICATE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT FROM ABRAHAM PEACE BE UPON HIM AND THOSE WHO HAVE THE POSSESSION ARE FROM ABRAHAM PEACE BE UPON HIM
WAS THE PROMISE MADE FOR A SPECIFIC FAITH ( JEWS ) ?
the reference to you could mean him and people following his faith , but the text does not seem to be in that Context as it says YOU and YOUR CHILDREN which does not seem to be addressing a general set of community but person and his children whatever faith they may have . if we look at facts now
Christians : believe in Abraham peace be upon him
Jews : believe in Abraham peace be upon him
Muslims : believe in Abraham peace be upon him
ALL are Children from Abraham peace be upon him in FAITH AND FAMILY.
Not sure how many Accept this Priest but putting here for reference : Archbishop: Palestine is not Israel’s ‘promised land’
Time Line from Jewish Source so that there is no debate about FACTS
Source : Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs
c.13th century Exodus from Egypt: Moses leads Israelites from Egypt, followed by 40 years of wandering in the desert.
Torah, including the Ten Commandments, received at Mount Sinai.
13th-12th
centuries Israelites settle in the Land of Israel
c.1020 Jewish monarchy established; Saul, first king.
c.1000 Jerusalem made capital of David's kingdom.
c.960 First Temple, the national and spiritual center of the Jewish people, built in Jerusalem by King Solomon.
c. 930 Divided kingdom: Judah and Israel
722-720 Israel crushed by Assyrians; 10 tribes exiled (Ten Lost Tribes). exiled? but they were supposed to be there with land in everlasting possession !!!
586 Judah conquered by Babylonia; Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews exiled.
THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD
538-142 Persian and Hellenistic periods
538-515 Many Jews return from Babylonia; Temple rebuilt.
332 Land conquered by Alexander the Great; Hellenistic rule.
166-160 Maccabean (Hasmonean) revolt against restrictions on practice of Judaism and desecration of the Temple
142-129 Jewish autonomy under Hasmoneans.
129-63 Jewish independence under Hasmonean monarchy.
63 Jerusalem captured by Roman general, Pompey.
63 BCE-313 CE Roman rule
63-4 BCE Herod, Roman vassal king, rules the Land of Israel;Temple in Jerusalem refurbished
(CE - The Common Era)
c. 20-33 Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth
66 Jewish revolt against the Romans
70 Destruction of Jerusalem and Second Temple.
73 Last stand of Jews at Masada.
132-135 Bar Kokhba uprising against Rome.
c. 210 Codification of Jewish oral law (Mishna) completed.
FOREIGN DOMINATION
313-636 Byzantine rule
c. 390 Commentary on the Mishna (Jerusalem Talmud) completed.
614 Persian invasion
636-1099 Arab rule
691 On site of First and Second Temples in Jerusalem, Dome of the Rock built by Caliph Abd el-Malik.
1099-1291 Crusader domination
(Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem)
1291-1516 Mamluk rule
1517-1917 Ottoman rule
1564 Code of Jewish law (Shulhan Arukh) published.
1860 First neighborhood built outside walls of Jerusalem's Old City.
1882-1903 First Aliya (large-scale immigration), mainly from Russia.
1897 First Zionist Congress convened by Theodor Herzl in Basel, Switzerland; Zionist Organization founded.
1904-14 Second Aliya, mainly from Russia and Poland.
1909 First kibbutz, Degania, and first modern all-Jewish city, Tel Aviv, founded.
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