06 Frank/Francis Phelps b. bef 1797 Ireland to VA to Ga?
Frank/Francis Phelps b. bef 1797 From Ireland to VA to GA? See notes below , d. bef 1830,
m. Nancy Taylor b. abt 1783 GA
Kits B6124 NOW WITH SNP A6108 and 362816
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3/2016 & 2019 revisions: B6124 tested positive for a key SNP indicator, A6108, of a line from Albemarle Co, NC. That line, composed now of kits with A6108 is being researched and may not be descended from Thomas d.1751 Albemarle.
This information in this lineage includes a civil war Tennessee survey record record that points to Ireland as the patriarch's origin. If true it is the only document reported to this project which describes a country of origin for any of the ydna-related Phelps lines. See the note below and the kit owner.
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Look at the summarized ydna of the matching Phelps lines here
Doug Phelps, Phelps YDNA administrator
6/2017: Additional research by several people: A Frances Phelps is on the Buckingham Co, VA** tax list in 1789, 92 93 94 96.
From Kathie Mann: after 1796, he reappears in the Amherst** tax lists, then disappears again after 1801. In one of the years in Amherst, he has another male Phelps listed under him- the name is very hard to read- Contact Kathie to view the 1800 Amherst** Personal Property showing Frank Phelps and adjacent Phelps with the indecipherable first name. She only looked at tax lists to 1801 so far and the early marriages. I know JC Rogers has been to Nelson County. I'm unsure if he's done a thorough check of neighboring Amherst. Kathie has a late 1820's deed from a William "son of Frank" of Campbell Co, VA to a Thomas Phelps of Buckingham. [The reported son of Frank, William A. is said to be born 10 May 1807 PERHAPS in GA
** The early years (1789-1796) Francis was on the Buckingham County tax lists (not Albemarle), though this area was originally Albemarle. Amherst was also cut from Albemarle, the same time as Buckingham.
Yellow highlight indicates doubt
Green indicates common ancestor\
Tentative abbreviated lineage for the kit B6124
Extended genealogy is viewable by scrolling toward the end of the page
1. Frank/Francis Phelps b. bf 1787 Virginia/Georgia? d. bf 1830 m. Nancy Taylor ? abt 1783 GA? From Ireland to VA to GA? See notes
2. William A Phelps b. 10 May 1807 Jackson County ?, GA d. 8 Feb 1898 in McMinnville, Warren, TN,
m. 1829 Matilda Boyd, b abt 1807, GA (Origins:Scotland-PA-TN) As a common ancestor William should have DYS439=13 which may place him with the Albemarle Phelps line.
3. Marlin Monroe Phelps b 27 Feb 1831 Marion Co, TN, d 13 Feb 1893, McMinnville,Warren Co, TN.
| 4. John Alexander Phelps b. 10 Dec 1855 in McMinnville, Warren, TN, d. 30 Aug 1906 in Sulphur Springs, Sequatchie Co, TN
| 5. John Grady Phelps b. 18 Feb 1905 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., TN d. 9 Oct 1981 in Miami, Dade Co., Fla
| Descendant kit B6124 DYS439=13 DYS449=34 DYS576=16 SNP A6108
3. Francis Marion Phelps b. 4 Mar 1837 TN : d. 2 Jan 1916 Cego, Falls Co, TX
| 4. West Walker Phelps b. Sep 29 1878 Driball, Dublin Co, TN : d. 15 May 1959 Mooreville, Falls Co, TX
| 5. Barney Bernard Phelps b. 15 Sep 1908 Dott, Falls Co, TX : d. 26 Apr 1998 Marlin, Falls Co, TX
| Descendant Kit 362816 DYS439=13 DYS449=34 DYS576=16
3. Robert Phelps b 11 mar 1839 TN; m. 1859 Sequatchie Co, d. after 1921 TN, Tn Civil war survey naming Frank Phelps as grandfather
3. William Alexander Phelps b 28 Mar 1843 TN d. 31 July 1928 Where?? TN Civil war survey naming Ireland as the origin of his "grandfather"
Notes:
Ireland origins?: Using the civil war survey records of Robert and William, the reader can decide if the "grandfather" said to be from Ireland was that of the Phelps or the Boyd family. The kit owner has concluded it is the Phelps grandfather who was from Ireland because he found information that has identified this Boyd line as coming from Scotland through Pennsylvania. At the FAR end of this page is a PDF of the actual handwritten Tennessee survey responses. Walter Phelps added: Many from Wales emigrated to Ireland following the Norman Invasion of 1169 - 71. They were referred to as "Old English".
Virginia birth? An 1880 (important as it shows Grandparents birth places) Warren Co census record for a William Phelps b. abt 1810 is below:
1880 Census - District 1 - County of Warren - State Tennessee - Page 53 Supervisor Dist 2 Enumeration Dist 130 - 28 June 1880 Dwelling #252 - Family #265
Line 5 - Wm Phelps 70 Male Farmer Born in GA, Father in VA , Mother in GA
Line 6 - Rhoda Phelps 57 Female Wife Born in TENN, Father in NC, Mother in NC
Line 7 - Mattie Lemons 9 Female Born in TENN
Comments on the 1880 census: The kit owner can find no other William Phelps in Tennessee Census. He knows William died in Warren County (McMinnville) in 1898 so this is possibly his ancestor (however age is off by 2-3 years). Also William A. Phelps' son Marlin Monroe is shown in same county in 1880 census by the same enumerator. The new wife with her child from another marriage appears correct in time-line as William A. Phelps’ wife Matilda died in 1878.
Original comments by D Phelps 2016 or earlier: Notice that he describes his grandfather as having come from VA. How this relates to the Ireland comment is up for discussion and that is why we list origin as GA-VA-Ireland? at the top of the page. There is a Francis Phelps listed on Albemarle co tax records in Buckingham Co (from Albemarle Co) 1789 -1796 and this kit's ydna matches a likely family branch mutation marker of the Albemarle co Phelps line. In the ydna markers he shares a 13 at DYS439 with those of the Albemarle Phelps line. Ignore any differences in DYS448 since we know ftdna is in error there. Moving way out to the right notice his 11 (in DYS511 ) which is different from the 12 in the other Phelps lines, but does link him with the recently described 4th Phelps line. He shows a unique 14 in DYS461. Interestingly there was a Francis Phelps in Buckingham Co, VA (from Albemarle Co) on tax records 1789-1796 - unfortunately too late for Francis below. Thus the picture is unclear. Further ydna testing is in progress.
To view the reported Phelps who located in early Georgia, view the PDF in the Files section of this page.
For more information on the below genealogy, contact oldenoughtoknowbetter AT mindspring.com
Phelps Genealogy for FTDNA Kit B6124 V5 Bolded is the lineage of kit B6124
0. Unknown Phelps (possible first name Frank or Francis)
b. before 1787 – possibly in Ireland or Georgia
m. before 1803 – possibly in Georgia
d. possibly before 1830
Wife Unknown possibly Nancy First name and possibly Taylor? Last name
b. about 1783 – possibly in Georgia
Note - 1830 US Census (Bledsoe, Tennessee) has a Nancy Phelps born between 1780-1790 with 2 sons born between 1810 and 1815, 3 sons born between 1815 and 1820, and 1 son born between 1820 and 1825 living with her but no husband.
Children
0.1 Robert Phelps (M)
b. about 1803 in Georgia
m.
d.
Wife – unknown
Children
0.1.1 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. between 1825 and 1830
m.
d.
0.2. William A. Phelps (M)
b. 10 May 1807 in Georgia – possibly Jackson County
m. 2 Aug 1829
d. 8 Feb 1898 in McMinnville, Warren, Tennessee
burial – McMinnville, Warren, Tennessee – Riverside Cemetery
Wife – Matilda Boyd (F)
b. about 1807 in Georgia
d. 12 Aug 1878 in Tennessee
burial – Dunlop, Sequatchie Co, Tennessee – Phelps Cemetery
Children
0.2.1 Marlin Monroe Phelps (M)
b. 27 Feb 1831 in Marion Co. Tennessee
m. 3 Apr 1851 in Warren Co. Tennessee
d. 13 Feb 1893 in McMinnville, Warren, Tennessee
burial – McMinnville, Tennessee – Riverside Cemetery
1st Wife – Desdemona Clementine Johnson (F)
b. 8 Oct 1832 in Bledsoe Co., Tennessee
d. 6 Mar 1875 in Tennessee
burial – McMinnville, Tennessee – Riverside Cemetery
Children
0.2.1.1 William R. Phelps (M)
b. 8 Jan 1852 in Tennessee
m. ------------
d. 14 Aug 1865 in Tennessee
0.2.1.2 Francis M. Phelps (M)
b. 10 Dec 1853 in Tennessee
m. -------------
d. 14 Oct 1862
0.2.1.3 John Alexander Phelps (M)
b. 10 Dec 1855 in McMinnville, Warren, Tennessee
m. 31 Jul 1884 in McMinnville, Warren, Tennessee
d. 30 Aug 1906 in Sulphur Springs, Sequatchie Co, Tennessee
Wife – Lula Mae Jett (F)
b. Oct 1863 in Warren Co., Tennessee
d. abt 1916 in Whitwell, Marion Co.,Tennessee
Children
0.2.1.3.1 Mona Phelps (F)
b. Aug 1885 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m. abt 1924 in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee
d. 25 May 1939 in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee
0.2.1.3.2 Ada Phelps (F)
b. Oct 1887 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m.
d. in Victoria, Tennessee
0.2.1.3.3 Margaret (Maggie) Phelps (F)
b. March 1889 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m.
d. 19 Aug 1959 in Whitwell, Marion Co.,Tennessee
0.2.1.3.4 Jennie Phelps (F)
b. 23 Apr 1892 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m.
d. 28 Mar 1965 in Whitwell, Marion Co., Tennessee
0.2.1.3.5 Lillie M. Phelps (F)
b. 23 Apr 1892 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m.
d. ? in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee
0.2.1.3.6 Willie D. Phelps (F)
b. Aug 1894 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m.
d. aft Oct 1965 in Daly City, CA
0.2.1.3.7 Florence Rebecca (Flossie) Phelps (F)
b. 6 Jul 1901 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m. abt 1924 in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee
d. 20 Aug 1972 in Chattanooga, Hamilton Co., Tennessee
0.2.1.3.8 John Grady Phelps (M)
b. 18 Feb 1905 in Sulphur Springs, Marion Co., Tennessee
m. 18 Feb 1929 in Miami, Dade Co., Florida
d. 9 Oct 1981 in Miami, Dade Co., Florida
Wife – Dorothy Hall Frink (F)
b. 15 Jun 1906 in Macon, Bibb Co., Georgia
d. 1 Dec 2002 in Hialeah, Dade Co., Florida
Children
0.2.1.3.8.1 Judith Ann Phelps (F)
0.2.1.3.8.2 John Richard Phelps (M) (Kit B6124)
0.2.1.4 Spencer Lonzo Phelps (M)
b. 23 Dec 1857
m.
d. 11 Nov 1927
0.2.1.5 Rachel A. Phelps (F)
b. 28 Jan 1860 in Tennessee
m.
d. 7 Oct 1861 I Tennessee
0.2.1.6 Beauregard Phelps (M)
b. 27 Dec 1861 in Tennessee
m. --------------
d. 11 Nov 1862 in Tennessee
0.2.1.7 Lewis Phelps (M)
b. 8 Jan 1864 in Tennessee
m. -------------
d. abt 1864
0.2.1.8 Zipporah Phelps (F)
b. 14 Aug 1867 in Tennessee
m.
d. 29 Jan 1899 in Tennessee
0.2.1.9 Maggie Lee Phelps (F)
b. 26 Jun 1872 in Tennessee
m.
d.
2nd Wife – Harriet P. Burns
b. about 1849 in Tennessee
m. 23 Sept 1875 in Warren County, Tennessee
d.
0.2.2 Margaret Phelps (F)
b. 30 Dec 1833 in Tennessee
m. 3 Oct 1850
d.
0.2.3 John Boyd Phelps (M
b. 22 Mar 1835 in Tennessee
m. 21 Feb 1861 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
d. 1920 1861 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
0.2.4 Franklin Francis M. Phelps (M)
b. 4 Mar 1837 in Tennessee
m. 26 Sept 1860 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
d. 2 Jan 1916 in Cego, Falls County, Texas
0.2.5 Robert Phelps (M)
b. 11 Mar 1839 in Tennessee
m. 1 Dec 1859 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
d. after 1921 in Tennessee
0.2.6 Martin Van Buren Phelps (M)
b. 5 Feb 1841 in Tennessee
m.
d. 13 July 1864
0.2.7 William Alexander Phelps (M)
b. 28 Mar 1843 in Tennessee
m. 1866
d. 31 July 1928 – Thans Chapel
0.2.8 Nancy Jane Phelps (F)
b. 28 Apr 1845 in Tennessee
m. 24 June 1866 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
d. 1900 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
0.2.9 Mary Elizabeth Phelps (F)
b. 29 Mar 1847
m. ----------------
d. 23 May 1849
0.2.10 James Hannibal Phelps (M)
b. 21 Dec 1849
m. 25 Jan 1871 in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
d. 21 Apr 1904
0.2.11 Ellenor Phelps (F) (By second wife)
b. 28 July 1876
m.
d.
0.3 Albert Phelps
b. about 1812 in Georgia
m.
d.
Note – 1830 US Census (Bledsoe, Tennessee) has Robert and William A. Phelps old enough to have married and separate households and Albert to still be living at home as one of the two sons born between 1810 and 1815.
Wife – possibly Eliza
b. about 1816 in South Carolina
d.
Children
0.3.1 Lousa J. Phelps (F)
b. about 1836 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.3.2 James A. Phelps (M)
b. about 1842 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.3.3 Margaret J. Phelps (F)
b. about 1844 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.3.4 Tillman Phelps (M)
b. about 1847 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.3.5 William V. Phelps (M)
b. about 1852 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.3.6 Louisa B. Phelps (F)
b. about 1855 in Tennessee
m.
d.
0.4 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. Between 1810 and 1815
m.
d.
0.5 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. between 1815 and 1820
m.
d.
0.6 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. between 1815 and 1820
m.
d.
0.7 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. between 1850 and 1820
m.
d.
0.8 Unknown Phelps (M)
b. between 1820 and 1825
m.
d.
Source Documentation
1830 US Census (Bledsoe, Tennessee) has a Nancy Phelps born between 1780-1790 with 2 sons born between 1810 and 1815, 3 sons born between 1815 and 1820, and 1 son born between 1820 and 1825 living with her but no husband. It also showed a Robert Phelps and a William A. Phelps in separate households. My records from family accounts show 3 sons (numbers 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 above) this would jive with 1830 Census with Robert and William A. Phelps old enough to have married and separate households and Albert to still be living at home as one of the two sons born between 1810 AND 1815. William A. Phelps shows no children born by 1830 Census (matches fact that first child (Marlin Monroe Phelps was born in 1831) and Robert shows one child born between 1825 and 1830.
1840 Census Eastern District, Marion County, Tennessee shows the following:
Page 276 has Albert Phelps (age between 20 and 29) and wife (age between 20 and 29) and female child (age under 5).
1850 Census District 1, Marion County, Tennessee on 19 Sept 1850 shows the following:
Page (791 or 896) – Line 1, Dwelling and family 268
William Phelps (43) farmer and wife Matilda (43) both from Georgia. Children living in house were:
Marlin (M 19), Margaret (F 17), John (M 15), Francis (M 14), Robert (M 12), Martin V. (M 10), William (M 8), and Nancy (F 6). Mary Elizabeth does not show up as she died in 1849. Not explained is the last line of page which shows James Phelps in family 274 at age of 9 months. This matches James Hannibal Phelps born 21 Dec 1849 who should be in William’s family.
1860 Census District 4, Sequatchie County, Tennessee (Post Office - Dunlap on 18 June 1860 shows the following:
Page (22) – Line 3, Dwelling 166 and family 141
William Phelps (53) farmer and wife Matilda B. (48) both from Georgia. Children living in house were:
John B. (M 25), Franklin (M 23), Van Buren (M 19), William (M 19), Nancy (F 15) and Hannibal (M 10).
Also Nancy Phelps (F 73?) Living in dwelling 167 and family 141. I believe Hannibal age 10 is the James Phelps (age 9 months) shown with family 274 in the 1850 Census. Age matches and names do when you have family records that show him as James Hannibal Phelps of same age.
Same page Line 12, Dwelling 168 and family 142
Albert Phelps (48) farmer from Georgia and wife Eliza (44) from South Carolina. Children living in house were: Lousa J. (F 19?), James S. (M 18), Margaret J. (F 16), Tillman (M 13), William V. (M 8) and Louisa B . (F 5).
Same page Line 29, Dwelling 170 and family 145
Robert Phelps (21 farmer from Tennessee and wife Nancy (17) from Tennessee.
1870 Census District 4, Sequatchie County, Tennessee (Post Office - Dunlap on 14 July 1870 shows the following:
Page (5 or 6) – Line 31, Dwelling 42 and family 42
William Phelps (64) farmer and wife Matilda (61) both from Georgia. Children living in house were:
Hannibal (M 20).
Page (5 or 6) – Line 8, Dwelling 36 and family 36
Marlin Phelps (39) farmer and wife Desdamona (38) both from Tennessee. Children living in house were:
John (M 25), Franklin (M 13), Spencer (M 11), Ziffora (F 3).
Page (5 or 6) – Line 14, Dwelling 37 and family 37
Franklin Phelps (32) farmer and wife Rebeca (26) both from Tennessee. Children living in house were:
William (M 8), Susan (F 5), George (M 3).
The Tennessee Civil War Veterans Questionnaire – Volume 4 Confederate Soldiers Compiled between 1915 and 1922. 1,650 responded including 2 sons of William A. Phelps (0.2) – Robert Phelps (0.2.5) and William Alexander Phelps (0.2.7). These two Phelps are the only TN phelps listed in the current index at http://share.tn.gov/tsla/history/military/quest16.htm
Robert Phelps (Tennessee Pension #7980) was 83 and living at Charleston, Tennessee Route #3. He gave the following information:
- He was born in Tennessee
- His Confederate company was H of the 4th Tennessee
- Father was William Phelps, a farmer who lived in Bledsoe county Tennessee and then moved to Dunlap, Tennessee
- Mother was Matilda Boyd, daughter of Alexander Boyd who lived in Bledsoe county Tennessee and later moved to Hamilton County, Tennessee
- Grandfather was Frank Phelps who moved from Georgia to Bledsoe County, Tennessee
- He thought father William owned 10 or 11 slaves and farmed an area more than 200 acres and lived in a 2 story Frame house with 4 rooms and a hall
- Robert enlisted in 1861 in Sequatchie County Tennessee near Dunlap
- Company was then sent to Bowling Green, Kentucky but because of Rheumatism was sent to Nashville and discharged and sent home
- Rejoined the 4th Tennessee Calvary and first battle was Saltville, VA
- Discharged in Charlotte NC in 1865
- Went back to school and became a teacher and eventually a Baptist minister
- Lived in Tennessee, Alabama, and Arkansas and back to Tennessee
William Alexander Phelps (Tennessee Pension # 9671) was 80 and living in Dunlap, Tennessee. He gave the following information:
- He was born in Sequatchie County, Tennessee
- His Confederate company was H of the 4th Tennessee
- Father was William Phelps, a farmer, born in Georgia who lived in Tennessee from 1810 till his death
- Mother was Matilda Boyd, daughter of Elliot Boyd who lived in Hamilton County, Tennessee
- Grandfather came from Ireland
- Father William owned 6 slaves – 3 men and 3 women and farmed an area of about 600 acres and lived in a 2 story Frame house with 6 rooms
- William went to school 3 months a year
- William enlisted in September 1861 in Dunlap, Tennessee
- Company was then sent to Bowling Green, Kentucky
- First battle was April 6, 1862 – Shiloh
- He was in 4 big battles and around 50 skirmishes and was never injured although he had the measles and was in the hospital for a few days
- After the war his father gave him some land to farm and he lived there after that.
- He married and had 6 children – 3 boys and 3 girls. Five were alive at this time with the oldest child 50 and youngest child 33. Wife is 74 and still alive.
He had 3 brothers in the company with him Bob (assume Robert 0.2.5), Marlin (0.2.1), and Frank (0.2.6) all older and all deceased at this time. Note – This would mean that Robert filled this out before he died in 1921 and William after this in 1922.