.06 Theories on the origin of this Thomas Felps

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11/2/2014

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Theories on the Origin of Thomas Felps/Felps d 1758/59 Baltimore CO, Md.

(all research known to be by Mr. Ed Phelps was removed due to potential copyright infringement) Ireland as an origin is being revisited due to a new Phelps kit B6124 having in his lineage a civil war Tennessee survey record naming Ireland as the patriarch's origin. If true it is the second document (revised 2014) reported to this project which describes a country of origin for any of the ydna-related Phelps lines. See the Civil War record of another Phelps naming Ireland as his grandfather's origin

Did Thomas Phelps of Limerick Ireland Go to Pennsylvania? By Brenda Emery

"After a careful study of all materials available to me at this time I believe that Thomas Phelps, Quaker [of Limerick Ireland], born 1623 did not come to America. It appears however that his son Thomas likely traveled to Pennsylvania, claimed the land his father had purchased from William Penn, married, and died sometime before 1704." [Records show only a daughter who died early]

Additional information 2/2016- provided by Thomas H. Phelps, Ed Phelps and Kathy Hammons and others (supplied by Thomas H Phelps)

Here is the lineage for Thomas Phelps of Limerick Ireland b.1623 d.1699 [see the lineage on page 24 here] THIS LINK IS CURRENTLY INVALID Note that he has two sons named ‘Thomas’ – I don’t know what the abbreviations by the names indicate. I would presume indication of death, perhaps prematurely?

Record of Thomas Phelps to Limerick, Quaker convert:

"Lineage - THOMAS PHELPS joined in the revolution of 1645, and served under Cromwell, by whom he was granted considerable estates in the Cos. of Tipperary, Kerry, and Down, chiefly in the first-named Co., around the Keeper Mountain, with Camaltha. Thomas Phelps settled in the city of Limerick after the revolution, and Charles II confirmed his titles to those estates, with a few exceptions. He, however, turning his sword into a ploughshare, became a disciple of George Fox: he was b. 1623, at the age of 45, m. Susan Fennell (d. 20 Dec. 1684), dau. of a brother offr., with estates at Cahir, Co. Tipperary, and had with other issue, who d. young.

Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Ireland, 4th Edition 1958. Unfortunately, references are not given for the information as it is sequestered via invitation and the data is self-reported by families. Never the less, I think there is some value in the information. (Kathy Hammons)

10 acres part of Gurtgabrane and lands in Pallikinlissy, Farnoghs, Munnis, Garringrelag and other lands all in the barony of Owney and Arra [very close to Limerick – THP] and granted 20 Dec., 1666, to Tho. Phelps. 633 acres in Muckarky and Culkip and 30 acres of Fallyherstown and 30 acres of Shanbally, at 10l. 10s. 7¾d. per an.; Curreheene, at 5s. 11l. 0½d. per an.; Parks Town, at 5l. 15s. 10d. per an., all in the barony of Eliogarty [near Limerick-THP] and granted 2 Jan., 1666–7, to James Phelips.

From: 'Entry Book: February 1686,1-5', Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 8: 1685-1689 (1923), pp. 546-572. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=82533&strquery=Phelps Date accessed: 03 March 2009.

"Pennsylvania - 1662 Thomas Phelps of Limerick buys Pennsylvania land rights. No record of his movement to Pennsylvania has been found."

FILE - Thomas Phelps of County Limerick, merchant, and Susannah release and quitclaim all demands on Sir Job Charlton for land he had off John Aston - ref. 11/229 - date: 23 May 1676

[from Scope and Content] John Owens of Ludlow mescer purchased a parcel of land for his daughter's life; she is now wife of Thomas Phelps, and the land has passed through the hands of John Aston to Job Charlton.

[from Scope and Content] Signatures of Thomas Phelps, Susan Phelps

FILE - Thomas Phelps junior has appointed his uncle John Phelps⁶ his attorney by letter of 22 May 1676, to receive £10 from Sir Jobb Charleton - ref. 11/230 - date: 13 October 1676

[from Scope and Content] Signature of Thomas Phelps junior

John Owen’s daughter was married to Thomas Phelps of Limerick Ireland. John Owen and John Phelps served Oliver Cromwell in Ireland c.1650-53. Both Phelps and Dr. John Owen participated in Oliver Cromwell’s funeral (reference funeral procession transcription)

There is no doubt that Thomas Phelps of Limerick is associated with the Regicide of Charles I of England. Thomas Phelps of Limerick is also connected to PA – reference Brenda Emory’s research. He is also Associated (father of) Thomas Phelps, mariner, of Bristol UK. This Thomas Phelps can be linked to many Phelps in Barbados and elsewhere

Thomas Felps' signature marks - Located by Brenda Emery

ENGLAND'S IRISH SLAVES by Robert E. West see below the downloadable file.