06C.4  FGC67854,  A10162+,DYS576=16,Dys449=35  Thomas Abner Felps Baltimore Co MD

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1.Thomas Felps b. abt 1678. d. 1758/9  Located in Baltimore County, MD in 1699   Likely SNP FGC67854  m. Rosanna Swift    Felps' will is found on the Maryland MDGenWeb site.  search on Felps

    2. Aventon / Avington Felps b. abt 1711 (no proof),  Baltimore Co, MD  Likely SNP FGC67854  m. Rachael McElroy April 23, 1730 in St. George'sParrish, Baltimore County

      3.  John,b. 1748 per Ed Phelps and others  (but perhaps invalid)

      3. Aquilla  per Ed Phelps and others See Aquilla Felps b. 1731 Balt. CO, Md to Orange Co, VA Likely FGC67854 dys576=16,dys449=34  A10162-

      3, William per Ed Phelps and others 

      3. Thomas Abner Felps b. abt 1733 Baltimore County MD  m.  (Jean) Jane Smith ca 1775 probably Johnston CO, NC.  d. 1794 Rowan CO, NC.    Triangulating to Thomas Abner deduces DYS449=35 and DYS576=16   A10162+  FGC67854 +     Provided by TH Phelps 108456: The below children are substantiated by Thomas's will (downloadable at the end of this page)- as in Genealogist Minne Tidwel's book (pg5) Signed April 4, 1794.  He left land to only two of the children…Thomas and Samuel.  All others received 5 shillings each.  (Don’t know the why of that.)  Also, he called his wife Jane.  In North Carolina notes, she is ‘Jean' (Smith).  If one checks the birth dates of all the children, the mother would have to be very long in the tooth to have been the Mom of them all.  Were there  maybe two wives??…a Jean, then a Jane?  , as provided by TH Phelps 108456

           4.  Keeling Phelps  

           4.  Thomas Phelps (added by TH Phelps 108456)   See possible line below Thomas Felps/Phelps Jr. b.1813 KY m Hannah Auldridges

           4.  Samuel Phelps  Mispelled in will as Imanuel?.  Genealogist Minne Tidwell thought it Samuel(added by TH Phelps 108456)

           4.. Abbington  (Is this the Aventon Jr/Abner Jr  reported in kit 116391 below??)  DOB:1785 Rowan Co., North Carolina DOD:1861 Lincoln County, Tennessee  m. Mary Hage  Original info did not agree with that provided by Ed Phelps.

           4. John Phelps, b. 1767, NC, d. abt. 1807, Rowan, NC (m. Mary Caton) 

            |   5. Avington Phelps b. 1785, NC (probably Rowan), d. abt. 1861, TN   (m. Mary Hage 2 April 1817, Rowan Co, NC   Bondsman Ezekiel Felps. (NC Marriage Bonds 17141-1868 )   MEMBER IS CONFIDENT BACK TO AVINGTON

            |        6.  Jefferson Phelps (did not have a first name of William --see 822050 for details)  b. 1829, NC (probably Rowan), d. Lincoln Co., TN, d. 1900 Tarrant Co., TX (m. Sarah Ann Warren)

            |             7.  Thomas Jefferson Phelps b. 26 Jan 1857, TN (probably Bedford Co.), d. 17 Feb 1951, Giles Co.,TN  (m. Sidney J Marler/Marlow)

            |                   8.  David Andrew Phelps b.20 Jan 1883 Chestnut Ridge, Moore Co., TN/d. 4 Aug 1951, Huntsville, Madison, AL (m. Mary Ellen Brown)

            |                        9.  Thomas David Phelps b. 30 Apr 1918, Huntsville, Madison, AL d. 24 Jun 1982, Seminole Co., FL (m. Norma Deane Spittler)

            |                                         Descendant Kit 822050  DYS449=35  DYS576=16  ( negative for A10163, A10164)   A10162 Positive  A 1st cousin of 822050 and 822050 both have Ancestry autosomal dna matches to Caton's

           4. Brittain Felps b.:1779/75  Rowan County, NC DOD: 16 JUL 1847 Place: Lincoln County, TN m. Susan Waggoner Triangulaing to Brittain deducing DYS449=35, DYS576=16, and A10162+  and SNP FGC67854  

           |      5  Thomas Benton Felps b. 1810 Lincoln Co TN d. 1888 Moore Co TN

           |      |     6.  Claiborne Winchester Felps b. 1838 d. 1912

           |      |              Descendant Kit 116497   DYS449=35 DYS576=16    No personal lineage provided by tested member. Using Ed Phelps' lineages  NO SNP tests

           |      5.  Jacob Felps b.02 MAR 1806 Place:Rowan County, NC  d.15 APR 1885 Place:Blanco County, TX m. Catherine R. Davidson Triangulated to this common ancestor, deducing a 35 in DYS449  and A10162+

           |            6.  Thomas Christopher Felps DOB:10 NOV 1836 Place:Lincoln County, TN DOD: 21 JUL 1869 Place:Cypress Creek, Blanco, TX

           |             |     Thomas Christopher Felps DOB:10 JAN 1869 Place: Blanco County, TX DOD: 20 JUL 1933 Place:Rocky Ford, Otero, CO

           |             |             William Trace Felps DOB:16 NOV 1902 Place:Bonita, Montague, TX DOD:19 OCT 1987 Place:Aurora, Arapahoe, Colorado

           |             |        Descendant Kit 184430   DECEASED   DYS449=35 DYS576=16  Lineage provided by Julie - and COUSIN Rosland. Ward back to Thomas Abner Phelps       SNP A10162+

           |             6.  Benjamin Franklin Felps b. Mar 19 1839  TN  d. Mar 29 1909 TX Triangulated to this common ancestor, deducing a 35 in DYS449 

           |                     George Livermore Felps b. Nov 29 1871 Blanco County, TX  d. May  5, 1951 in Henly, Hays County, TX

           |                            Wiley A. Felps  b. Mar 12 1909  Blanco County, TX  d. Oct 9, 1981 Harris County, TX

           |                             |             Descendant Kit 151601   DYS449=35 DYS576=16    Lineage provided by Carol Web, proxy for owner.

           |                             Thomas Odiorne Felps b 20 Jan 1884 died Austin TX 6 Aug 1943 

           |                                         Descendant Kit 152580   DYS449=35  DYS576=16      *Lineage provided by  Thomas M. Felps and Don Carpenter            

          |                         REVISED 7/14/2017 MEMBERS BELOW ARE CONFIDENT

           4.   Ezekial Phelps DOB:1801 TN,   lived Adair co, MO from 1823 on. MANY PHELPS IN ADAIR CO.   DOD:1891 Scotland, MO m. Malinda Stice   1880 census says father born in NC.  Triangulated to this common ancestor, deducing a 35 in DYS449

           |               5. Isham Phelps DOB:29 DEC 1846 Place:Adair,MO DOD:9 JUN 1922 Place:Mulhall,Payne,OKlahoma

           |               |        Frank Phelps DOB:4 NOV 1879 Place:Coffey,KS DOD:14 MAY 1951 Place:La Habra,CA  

           |               |                 Descendant test kit 108456  DYS449=35 DYS576=16   SNP FGC67854+  SNPS A10162+, A10163+, A10164+   from a Big Y test, analysis by Yfull.com

           |               5. Andrew  Phelps DOB:22 NOV 1833 Adair, Missouri DOD: 14 OCT 1889  m. Ellenor Mandy 

           |                        John Wesley Phelps DOB: 14 MAY 1858 Adair, Missouri DOD:1915 McIntosh, Oklahoma   m. Susan J  Moore

           |                              John Womack Phelps born Oct 21, 1906 d. Feb 1989   

           |                               |             Descendant Kit 133091(bad email address)      DYS449=35   DYS576=16   lineage provided by kit owner ?   Email address is bouncing

           |               .               Herman  Phelps DOB: 30 MAY 1884 Eufaula, OK. DOD: 29 AUG 1937  M. Audra Ellen Howard   

           |                                               Descendant kit 250539   DYS449=35  DYS576=16  lineage provided by kit owner

           4.  Pherabee (Williams) 

           4.  Jane (Williams)

           4.  Ede (Owings)

     

NOTES:

Note 1:  Comment on the birth and death dates of Thomas Felps    While  the dates have not been consistently reported by yDNA testees the  following was reported by R. Bryant 2016 (revised):  "His will was written 2 Apr 1758. There could be some estate records that nail it closer to 1758 or 1759. I don't know.... I am aware of one estate record  that indicates it was by Apr. 1762 at the latest.  ...   We know Thomas of Baltimore was b. bef. 1678 because he had to be at least 21 when he  appeared on the 1699 tax list. But couldn't have been born too much earlier, since he was at least 80 when he died (1758-1678= 80). That was  a ripe old age. In short, his DOB is b. bef. 1678."

Note 2: Rosalind Ward:  I think a lot of the difficulty stems from the fact that so many in families named their children after everyone else in their families.  I do think that Thomas Abner had a SON named John and a son named Avinton. (They appear in Thomas Abner’s will.)  But Thomas Abner also had a Brother named John.  My data indicates that John, the SON was married to Mary Caton June 30, 1786.  John, the BROTHER was married to Mary Williams in 1766.  I do not have exact birth dates for these two Johns…only wedding dates.  Thomas Abner’s SON John had a son named Avinton who married Mary Hague in 1817.  Thomas Abner’s SON Avinton married Sarah Harris in 1786.   This is how it is written in my records and I feel pretty confident about it….but not locked in steel about it.

 Much of the difficulty could have stemmed from Minnie Twidwell’s  Felps Family book.  It is an amazing collection of data but I do believe she had errors in her list of Thomas Abner's sons/generations and had two generations a bit mixed up.  I think the above data is the corrected version of the generations and marriages.  (She also had William listed as a SON of Thomas Abner and Jean who married Elizabeth Jones, and that William was actually Thomas Abner’s BROTHER.  But, naturally as is in most families then, Thomas Abner did also have a SON named William.  At least this is what I believe to be true.)   There is still some question in my mind about Jane/Jean and her questionable ability to keep producing children at a surprising age.  (Brittian, son of Thomas Abner and Jean was apparently born in 1779) I have been to his gravesite and do have a photo of his b/d dates that appears on his gravestone.  But that may well be a topic for another day.)  

Note 3 Rosalind Ward:  (after reviewing ydna issues)  I have been suspecting that there may be two Thomas’s that are at the top of most trees instead of one.  (have no proof yet)  One being Thomas Abner…currently of unknown origin…. and the other, Thomas, the son of Rachel and Avinton born around 1731.  I don ’t know IF we can get further here, whether or not it will make up for the differences seen in our charts.  According to several charts, Thomas Abner was born about 1725 and if that is true, then Rachel was not his mother. 

 

Lineages not yet merged but should be part of this branch because of A10162 positive and DYS449=35.

 Aventon Jr (Abner Jr.) Phelps DOB:1785 Rowan Co., North Carolina 

Uncertainty of the father now shows this lineage un-merged but was hoped to be Abbington (Aventon Jr/Abner Jr??)  son of Thomas Abner Felps, with a DOB conflicting with that given by kit 822050 and others. This lineage shows few "known for certains" in the lineage.   It  does not agree with that provided by Ed Phelps.

           Thomas Abner Felps - Unproven  b abt 1733, Baltimoe Co, MD,  m. (Jean) Jane Smith b.1728   

                    . Aventon Jr (Abner Jr.) Phelps DOB:1785 Rowan Co., North Carolina DOD:1861 Lincoln County, Tennessee  m. Mary Hage

                        . Alfred (Alpha) Phelps DOB:1816 North Carolina DOD: unknown     Known for certain

                                David Phelps DOB:23 JAN 1859 : Bowie Co., Texas DOD: 12 APR 1930       Known for certain

                                                . Johnin L Phelps DOB:22 SEP 1888 :Red River County, Texas DOD:12 AUG 1978 Red River County, Texas      Known for certain   

                                             Descendant Kit 116391 DYS449=35 DYS576=16    SNP A10162+   YSEQ TEST???  ( negative for A10163, A10164)

                                                                      Thomas Felps/Phelps Jr. b.1813 KY

This line is positive for A10162. It is untested for DYS449 and DYS576, but because of the research provided by TH  Phelps below, this line is assumed to DYS449=35 and DYS576=16   It is recommended this kit now order a 25 or 37 STR marker upgrade to CONFIRM, of those having the A10162, which downstream branch does it fit:  DYS449=35 or 34 ?  

0.Thomas Phelps Sr Unknown location. See notes below to suggest this was Thomas, son of Thomas abner Phelps.

     1. Thomas Felps/Phelps Jr See notes below for lineage considerations. b.1813 KY m. Bethenia (per 1850 Mo. census) 1850 census he shows as Jr with family in Mount Pleasant, Scotland, Mo.  See notes below to suggest this was  Thomas Felps m. Hannah Auldridges April 20, 1792 d.1816 TN   NC Marriages Collection.

     2. William b 1844

     2. Thomas B. b. 1848 (1850 census)

     3. Hezekiah Keaton Phelps B: 12-February-1833 Adair County, Mo D: 8-May-1896 Atchinsin, Mo m. Julia A Beard Father born in KY per 1880 Census SEE note below

         4. John Mansville Phelps B: 24-January-1866 Canton, Mo D: 26-January-1938 m.Mary Tennessee Perry

             5. Clyde Phelps B:07-November-1898 D: 05-November-1957 Rock Port, Mo m. Mildred Polly Reed

                  6. Kenneth Reed Phelps B: 09-August-1925 Missouri D: 14-March-1998 m. Dovie Fern Lininger

                              Descendant kit 481937 12 Markers only   SNP A10162 POSITIVE

Note 0: County formation related to censuses : Adair Co 1841 from Macon 1837 from Randolph 1829 from Ralls Co 1820.

Scotland Co formed 1841

Note 1: Reported by kit 108456: Hezekiah is son of Thomas Felps who lived NEXT DOOR to my ancestor Ezekiel Phelps b.1801 (108456 above) in Adair, MO D Phelps: The 1830 Salt River, Ralls Co, Mo census shows a Ezekiel and Thomas Phelps Jr adjacent. Both aged 20-30. Would strongly suggest brothers or cousins.. If brothers this invalidates the lineage reported by 108456

Note 2: So who is Thomas Sr?  TH Phelps: There are other Thomas Phelps / Felps in MO [in other years] – could be the same but they jump around Look at 1820 TN census.     D Phelps: A Thomas Jr is listed in the 1830 Missouri census of Salt River, Ralls Co, Mo (became Adair Co 1841) in the NE part of Missouri Why is he given a Jr suffix? Where is the senior?. In a distant 1830 Howard Co census (near Columbia) there is a Thomas Phelps , but does he justify a distant Jr Thomas? In the 1850 Scotland county census (formed 1841 and near Adair co (formed 1841) we see a son Hezikiah with father Thomas Felps (matching the 1830 Thomas Jr's birth years) Now the Jr does not need that designation. If this were assumed we could list this lineage

         0. Thomas Phelps (Sr) Living Howard co 1830. from the 1830 Howard Co census b.1781 to1810 1 male under 5; 1 male 5-9; 1 male 20-29 1 female under 5; one female 5-9 one female 20-29

             1. Thomas Felps/Phelps Jr

Note 3 From TH Phelps kit 108456 in the above lineages:

My Ezekiel b.1801 TN (108456) married Malinda Stice. Abington Stice age 21 appears on the census as well which would seem to be a clear connection from Stice to Avington Felps in KY. Charles Stice will was witnessed by William Felps in Warren KY in 1801. Stice also tracks back to Rowan NC along with of course an entire line of Felps

Note 4:  from TH Phelps:In 1830 Adair MO Ezekiel already has three children, 1 male and 2 females, that the names have been elusive. Recently, a cousin provided evidence of these children.  The names are:    Malinda Jane Phelps b.1823-1830,   James E Phelps b.1828-1830,   Martha Patsy Phelps b. 1828-1830   Interesting that Ezekiel would name his first-born son James

Will Books of Lincoln Co TN by Laura Willis

WB, Vol.1, Feb. 1811‐ May, 1817 [ There are a series]

Will Book A, page 137

Sale of the Estate of Thomas Phelps, deceased. Buyers were;

Mrs. Martin, skillet and Hooks

Manning Brookshire‐ box and Yarn and small piggin

Britain Phelps‐ many household and yard equipment

James Frost‐ two basins

James Nichols‐ two basins and three tin cups

Michael Robertson‐ two coffee Pots, oven, lid and hooks

William Phelps‐ Bed and furniture, chest, dishes and six plates

John Cunningham‐ Harness and slay

Jacob Waggoner‐ two ladles

Joseph Whitaker‐ grid iron

David Crots‐ desk

Kealon Phelps‐ set of smith tools, gold ring, Negro woman, Negro girl and boy, harness and stay, knives

and forks, tin bucket and ladle, funnel and cup.

John Dusenbury‐ Negro girl

Richard Luttrell‐ web cloth and bag, coffee mill

Charles McKinney‐ spice mortar

Robert Cunningham‐ pot rack, three sheets, sundry articles, Negro woman and child, Negro woman and

child

V. Addington‐ meal bag and tray

Hardy Holman‐ pair steelyards

John H. Zively‐ bed and furniture, bag cotton and bed tick, 1/2 bed cover

Frederick Michael‐ little wheel

True account of the sale of the Estate that was returned to Court at the February Term of 1816.

Britain Phelps, Administrator.

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Theories on the origin of Thomas Felps/Phelps  d. 1758/9 Baltimore Co.

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