Meetings 2021-22
April Prep Email
5/17/2022
Dear Colleagues
Hope you are well. Our meeting on Friday will focus on: (1) Finalizing both proposed degrees, (2) Finalizing the recommendations to JTC and (3) Reviewing next steps, with an eye to final technical changes to the degrees and recommendations as well as to address any other topics.
Attached are the two degrees and recommendations. In addition, I have included a document outlining the next steps as our work comes to an end.
Let me know if you have any questions. Take Care…Julie
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
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Dear Work Group Members:
Hope you are well. JTC met last week and discussed the proposed degrees and recommendations shared by the work group. JTC valued the work advanced by the work group. Members of the Council raised concerns about advancing two computer science degrees and the number of provisos. Discussion also took place about the potential of a single degree that works for a majority of institutions using this work as a foundation. It was noted the challenge of the degree structure and how to translate for advising. JTC decided to take no action at the spring meeting and will discuss further at the summer meeting.
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
| councilofpresidents.org | Twitter: @CouncilofPresWA
Next Steps.pdf
Dear Colleagues
Hope you are well. Thank you all for your time to on this effort. Attached are three documents:
Proposed revisions to the Computer Science DTA/MRP
Proposed new transfer degree Computer Science AST2/MRP
Proposed recommendations for consideration to JTC
To ensure time for a final review I am sending these documents now. If you have edits please send them to me.
As for next steps
Early next week I will send out the documents revised with any received edits
We will meet for a final time on April 29 to (1) finalize all three documents and (2) discuss next steps
Let me know if you have any questions. Take Care…Julie
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
| councilofpresidents.org | Twitter: @CouncilofPresWA
April Meeting - Email prep
Dear Colleagues
Hope you are well. Thank you all for your time to complete the work from our last meeting. Our meeting on Friday will focus on (1) Finalizing both degree paths and (2) an initial review of recommendations for JTC. To prepare for our meeting, the feedback you provided around degree requirements was used to revise the degrees for a final review. Below is additional information and embedded links to the degrees and recommendations for your review prior to Friday.
This will be our second to last meeting. Though we have a third meeting scheduled, I am optimistic we may not need that additional meeting. As I mention above our goals are to finalize the degrees and review the recommendations. This will allow us during our last meeting to fix any additional technical changes to the degrees and finalize recommendations and address any other topics.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Degrees
All institutions should review the degrees, with notes below, to make sure this meets your institutional requirements. Recognize that students may come with additional math or science than your degree requires to find a common path. In addition, for some institutions the degrees may not meet all requirements and the intent is that planned with an advisor the electives will minimize this gap. While we discussed the “remaining electives” should be the same for both degrees, the difference in course distribution in the two degrees requires separate lists so as not to add additional courses in remaining electives that are not needed.
Institutions provided feedback around degree requirements for computer science. From this a summary was created across institutions to identify common courses for degree completion.
The degree makes changes – see yellow- in introduction as we discussed at the last meeting to clarify degree paths and be welcoming and inclusive.
The degree reflects the common courses across the sector with the following notes:
As we discussed recommendations were removed and the degree only includes requirements to complete the transfer degree.
Working with an advisor is repeated throughout the degree to allow students to meet degree requirements for transfer through selection of courses and electives
A review across the institutions revealed
Most institutions require Composition II rather than technical writing. This is addressed in the communication skills with both options listed and “chosen with an advisor” language. By doing this it allows students to choose the best communication course and not take the place of an elective.
Most institutions allow for a choice of science sequence and Calculus 2. This is addressed in the natural science distribution.
The requirement for Calculus 3 was not clear across institutions. This was removed from the required electives and added to remaining electives.
Institutions provided feedback around degree requirements for computer science.
The degree makes changes – see yellow- in introduction as we discussed at the last meeting to clarify degree paths and be welcoming and inclusive.
A review across institutions revealed
As we discussed recommendations were removed and the degree only includes requirements to complete the transfer degree.
The need to add Composition II to the elective choices.
The math requirement was adjusted to be Calculus 3 or Statistics planned with an advisor. This is addressed in D.3. This also allows these courses to be removed from the list of electives.
Natural science distribution is met. This is addressed through the combination of D.1. and D.2.. This also allows some science to be removed from the list of electives.
Draft Recommendations
All institutions should review the draft recommendations for additions and edits. The draft includes the recommendations gathered over our meetings.
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
| councilofpresidents.org | Twitter: @CouncilofPresWA
Meeting Agenda: March 25th
Follow up to meeting:
Dear Colleagues:
Hope you are well. Thanks for a good meeting. Below is homework from our meeting with deadlines. Have a great weekend.
Institutional Representatives
By April 1, review the Work Group Degree Requirements and make sure they are accurate for your institution.
The institutions listed signed the current C.S. DTA/MRP and offer a degree in computer science.
Please also update the name listed with each institution who is reviewing this information.
Sector Representatives
Shea
Connect with ICW member institutions regarding the specific institutional requirements for each degree in the humanities and social sciences distribution
Connect with ICW member institutions regarding Appendix B in the C.S. DTA/MRP
Connect with Heritage, Gonzaga and Whitworth to complete the Work Group Degree Requirements document above
Julie Garver
Connect with COP institutions regarding the specific institutional requirements for each degree in the humanities and social sciences distribution
Work to add welcoming language
Schedule time for sector representatives to meet to review the Work Group Degree Requirement and identify commonalities across institutions for the CS DTA/MRP natural sciences distribution and elective language.
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
| councilofpresidents.org | Twitter: @CouncilofPresWA
Dear Colleagues:
Hope you are well. Looking frward to continuing our this week. Included in this email is the agenda and materials for the March 25 meeting I have attached materials and also added the materials to the Google Drive here.
The goal(s) of the meeting are:
· Go through each degree: (1) Seek support for language, (2) Identify changes to language and (3) Resolve outstanding institution specific questions.
If you are unable to attend the meeting, please send me the following prior to the meeting:
· Review both proposed degrees and send me any changes/questions.
Materials Included and in the Google Drive
· Agenda
· March 25 Preparation Work
· Draft Proposed CS Transfer Degrees
o Computer Science AS-T Track 2 MRP
o Computer Science DTA/MRP
Resources
· Work Group Google Drive
· WCERTE Portal
· Working Timeline
o March 25 – Review the full agreement with AST-2/MRP and DTA/MRP
o April 15 - Finalize agreements for review
o April 29 - Discuss recommendations and next steps for JTC
3/15/2022
Dear Colleagues:
Hope you are well. In preparation for the next JTC Computer Science Work Group meeting I have included specific areas to review and be prepared to discuss when we meet on March 25. Each current draft of the degree is linked below.
A note as we near the end of our work, this is not the time to be shy. Please edit within the google documents prior to the meeting.
Let me know if you have any questions.
All Institutions
Review the introduction which provides language to differentiate the AS-T/2 from the DTA.
Review Section I language re: advising notes
Review language for the Elective section
Review Appendix A: (1) Introduction language and (2) Table for accuracy
Specific Institutions
Humanities and Social Science Distribution
UW Campuses, Whitworth, Gonzaga and EWU review and determine:
Is the specific note needed? If a student transfers to the institution without the specified course what is the impact?
EWU and Whitworth - What are the community and technical college courses to meet Introductory to Ethics and a Fine Arts Course listed? https://ccn.sbctc.edu/ViewCommonCourses.aspx
All Institutions
Review the highlighted areas in the introduction which provides language to differentiate the DTA from the AS-T/2
Review Section I language re: advising notes
Review Option 1 and 2 in Natural Sciences and identify preference.
Review language for the Elective section
Note courses listed in this degree differ from the AS-T. The courses listed derive from the current Computer Science DTA/MRP.
Specific Institutions
Communications
Whitworth and EWU review and determine:
Is the specific note needed? If a student transfers to the institution without the specified course what is the impact?
Whitworth - What is the community and technical college course to meet the Oral Communications course? https://ccn.sbctc.edu/ViewCommonCourses.aspx
Humanities
Whitworth, Gonzaga and EWU review and determine
Is the specific note needed? If a student transfers to the institution without the specified course what is the impact?
EWU, Gonzaga, Whitworth - What are the community and technical college courses to meet the courses listed? https://ccn.sbctc.edu/ViewCommonCourses.aspx
Social Sciences
UW Campuses and Whitworth review and determine:
Is the specific note needed? If a student transfers to the institution without the specified course what is the impact?
Whitworth- What are the community and technical college courses to meet the course listed? https://ccn.sbctc.edu/ViewCommonCourses.aspx
Appendix A
Heritage, PLU, SPU and SU review for accuracy
Meeting Agenda: March 11, 2022
Hope you are well. Looking forward to continuing our this week. Included in this email is the agenda and materials for the March 25 meeting I have attached materials and also added the materials to the Google Drive here.
The goal(s) of the meeting are:
Focus on Computer Science AS-T Track 2/MRP with intent to move towards a final recommended degree
Review and update recommendations
If you are unable to attend the meeting, please send me the following prior to the meeting:
· Review both proposed degrees and send me any changes/questions. Note: This is the current statewide transfer degree.
Materials Included and in the Google Drive
· Agenda
· March 11 Meeting Work
· Draft Proposed CS Transfer Degrees
o Computer Science AS-T Track 2 MRP: Google Drive or WCERTE Portal
o Draft Elective Advising Guidance for Degree
· Draft Recommendations
Resources
· Work Group Google Drive
· WCERTE Portal
· Working Timeline
o March 11 –Review the full agreement with for AS-T Track 2 MRP
o March 25 – Review the full agreement with DTA MRP
o April 15 - Finalize agreements for review
o April 29 - Discuss recommendations and next steps for JTC
Julie Garver (she/her/hers)
Senior Director of Policy and Academic Affairs| Council of Presidents
Tel: 360.292.4102 l jgarver@councilofpresidents.org
| councilofpresidents.org | Twitter: @CouncilofPresWA
Hope you are well. Based on our last meeting, revised degrees can be viewed in the google drive here.
Homework for the March 11 Meeting
Review the Computer Science DTA/MRP AND the Computer Science AS-T Track 2 MRP.
In particular, please:
The degrees are revised to include contextual details for the agreement.
Review the comments I have added that we will address as we review the degrees
Does the opening paragraph(s) capture the differences between the two degrees to align with the work group’s discussion about student’s goals and the degrees?
Does the DTA revised format work?
What changes are needed to either or both degrees for your institution?
Review Draft recommendations and edit/add to. They can be viewed here.
Julie Homework
I will be here to provide any support so please reach out
I will send out prior to our March 11 materials for the meeting no later than March 8. This will include revised degrees for discussion that reflect the feedback I received from the work group members by Monday March 7. Also feel free to bring changes to the meeting.
Also moving forward here is my working outline for work to be completed
March 11 –Review the full agreement with for AS-T Track 2 MRP
March 25 – Review the full agreement with DTA MRP
April 15 - Finalize agreements for review
April 29 - Discuss recommendations and next steps for JTC
- Review Draft recommendations and edit/add to
Draft Work Group Recommenations to JTC.docxComputer Science DTA/MRP AND the Computer Science AS-T Track 2 MRP - Below
New Proposal: MRP/AS-T Track 2CS.AS-T Track 2.pdfMeeting Summary and Agenda: February 25, 2022
2.25.22Agenda.pdfHope you are well. Looking forward to continuing our work next week. Included in this email is the agenda and materials for the February 25 meeting I have attached materials and also added the materials to the Google Drive here.
The goal(s) of the meeting are:
Check-in on process and communications to date to ensure understanding and usefulness for work group
Focus discussion on Computer Science DTA/MRP and AS-T with the following questions in mind:
o What changes are needed from your institution? Note: Evaluate if these are graduation requirements but not entry requirements?
- Course changes – Additions and Removal
- Advising note changes – Additions and Removal
o What baccalaureate pre-requisites are required but not identified?
o What computer programming language requirements should be noted?
· Identify emerging issues/questions to be addressed
· Review and update recommendations document
If you are unable to attend the meeting, please send me the following prior to the meeting:
· Review both proposed degrees and send me any changes/questions. Note: This is the current statewide transfer degree.
Materials Included and in the Google Drive
· Agenda
· February 25 Meeting Work
· Draft Proposed CS Transfer Degrees
o Computer Science DTA/MRP: Google Drive or WCERTE Portal
o Computer Science AS-T Track 2 MRP: Google Drive or WCERTE Portal
Resources
· Work Group Google Drive
· WCERTE Portal
· Working Timeline
o February 25: Review Transfer Degrees for Changes from Institutions
o March 11 –Review the full agreement with for AS-T Track 2 MRP
o March 25 – Review the full agreement with DTA MRP
o April 15 - Finalize agreements for review
o April 29 - Discuss recommendations and next steps for JTC
Meeting Summary and Agenda: January 28, 2022
1.28.22 Email.pdf1.28.22 Notes.pdf1.28.22 Agenda.pdfMeeting Summary and Agenda: December 14, 2021
December JTC Computer Science Statewide Transfer Degree Work Group Summary and Next Steps.pdf12.14.21 Agenda.pdf