PiratePad Chat
March 28, 2015
12:05
unnamed: Is 'W' the name of the author known to me as Wolf Hesse, aka Roger from an as yet undisclosed TV station in Vienna?
12:06
roger: fixed;)
12:06
Barry Kort: Is there some reason you are not disclosing your real life identity?
12:06
roger: yes. 1/ native speaker, no. my english is a catastrophy ;)
12:06
roger: roger andel, is my real name
12:07
roger: nobody cares, normally
12:07
roger: most people know me as wolfhesse
12:07
Barry Kort: Why do you have more than one name on the Internet?
12:07
wolfhesse: just like in chatboards.. an avatar..
12:08
wolfhesse: i have about 2000 accounts.. from games. wolfhesse got feedback when 2009 university protests took place in vienna. i left it at that. it's a developed persona
12:09
wolfhesse: most people recognize me as both, roger and wolfhesse in real life. they know how to differentiate that. i do not declare taxes as wolfhesse ;) i keep that separated.
12:09
Barry Kort: Is this a real world business enterprise or an instance of Installation Art or Guerrilla Theatre?
12:09
wolfhesse: sfe is an existing company. it started with that art channel.
12:10
wolfhesse: a colleague of mine did establish the underlying technical system
12:10
Barry Kort: Is it a company registered with some government registration authority?
12:10
wolfhesse: it is a sample for a currently running and funded project i have a part in
12:11
wolfhesse: the company has no part in _my_ project right now. i just have means to support that. computers, systems..
12:11
wolfhesse: tools
12:11
Barry Kort: Can we migrate this chat over to your FB TimeLine? This is exasperating, multiple independent private chat windows.
12:11
wolfhesse: fb is for publishing, when things are ready. they are not, yet
12:12
Barry Kort: I can't possibly integrate all this fragmentary material into a coherent mental model in this crazy-making mode.
12:12
wolfhesse: yes. i'm overloaded too..
12:12
wolfhesse: take your time, no pressure.
12:13
wolfhesse: i expected everything to be of low-workload for the people i asked.
12:13
Barry Kort: Please, Roger. Migrate this transcript, either to FB or to the Comments in my Google Sites posting.
12:13
wolfhesse: i have to take care for construction on the 'other side' things are simply not ready by now
12:13
wolfhesse: it makes sense to publish, when things are ready.
12:14
wolfhesse: i am trying to reduce contexts myself, too.. i have a couple of dozen open conversations right now
12:14
wolfhesse: i'm an awful organiser ;)
12:14
wolfhesse: things will calm down. give us a couple of days, please
12:14
Barry Kort: Very well. I will do that for you this time. But I am doing it under protest that it's an abuse of my good offices to be fragmenting our conversation in four different spaces.
12:15
wolfhesse: i understand that. 30% were pissed off. i work with the 70% that stay.
12:15
wolfhesse: this is real world processes.
12:16
Barry Kort: This is an idiotic way to do business.
12:16
wolfhesse: given the options to do it that way or not at all, i do it that way
12:17
wolfhesse: there are samples of successes that started much more chaotic.
12:17
Barry Kort: Understand that if I remain engaged, everything involving me will be rapidly made public.
12:17
wolfhesse: as you whish. nobody else has thoughts about that. i think it is worth a discussion, but i have other priorities right now..
12:18
wolfhesse: i have to push the content production stream..
12:18
wolfhesse: have something to show
12:18
Barry Kort: It's part of my practices. My work is for public consumption.
12:18
wolfhesse: the enterprise aspect is premature, but not without reasoning behind
12:18
wolfhesse: mine too, always. always open, always free.
12:19
wolfhesse: on the other hand, we have to somewhat 'protect' different workloads and issues from one-another
12:19
Barry Kort: My practice is to exhibit my work, including my own reasoning, and allow peer review to do its thing.
12:19
Barry Kort: My practice is to engage in open source projects in the public interest.
12:20
wolfhesse: my invitation was meant as a question.. 'would you be willing to observe, when something will be available"..
12:20
Barry Kort: Therefore, to the extent that I am called upon, understand that my participation will be open sourced.
12:20
wolfhesse: an observer role, more than active interminglement.. which led to minor chaos, i see that now.
12:21
Barry Kort: What is the point of being an observer, unless I am at liberty to bear accurate witness to that which I am observing?
12:21
wolfhesse: yes. everything will land in public domain. nevertheless, individuals beg for protection.. a couple of persons were overloaded already, very active people.. i just pinged them. they resonded with 'pong'
12:21
Barry Kort: That which I observe is subject to being disclosed, within the scope of scientific ethics.
12:22
wolfhesse: your primary role was meant to notify _me_.. if something has logical fallacies.
12:22
wolfhesse: b/c there is, where your talents are.
12:23
Barry Kort: I am not prepared to protect the privacy of others who come to me in search of participants in an open source enterprise in the public interest.
12:24
Barry Kort: I am notifying you that it is an ethical impropriety to ask me to privately do your ethical reasoning for you as a public service, without a private contract between you and me. And I am not prepared to enter into any such private contract at this time. And probably not ever, as that is not my practice.
12:25
wolfhesse: yes. acknowledged.
12:25
Barry Kort: Do you have any problem with that?
12:28
wolfhesse: not at all.
12:30
wolfhesse: my expectation is, ideas will expand quite a lot from here on, before processes are established, and compaction can develop. it's too much for everyone, probably.. i see no reason to stop that.
12:33
wolfhesse: i just notice that there are immensely variant forms, how 'human brain perceives information and directs its focus' ;) i did not mean to disturb you.