Laura Chat ~ August 2011 ~ Part 1
Conversation started August 20, 2011
8/20, 10:58pmHernandez Laura
Hi
how are you this evening?
8/21, 12:49amBarry Kort
Hi. i was sleepy this evening.
August 21, 2011
8/21, 7:43amHernandez Laura
Hope you had a good night's rest
8/21, 7:47amBarry Kort
I did.
8/21, 7:48amHernandez Laura
good....me too
first time in a long time
8/21, 7:48amBarry Kort
I slept a bit, then got up for a few hours in the middle of the night, then back to bed until dawn.
Have you not been getting enough restful and restorative sleep?
8/21, 7:49amHernandez Laura
Mmm...that's what i call not sleeping well...sleeping well is considered sleeping through the night
i never sleep through the night
all i need is four hours
8/21, 7:50amBarry Kort
You must be young and active.
8/21, 7:50amHernandez Laura
but it seems i went to bed at about 11pm
and woke up a 6am
YAY
restorative sleep
no
i'm old and inactive...lol
i'm 53 and i'm not running my four miles a day
i'm not as active as i was
8/21, 7:51amBarry Kort
If you want to sleep longer, fill your head with harder problems.
8/21, 7:52amHernandez Laura
then again.....i had not been hit by 5000 tons at 35mph then either
harder problems
??
wouldn't that keep you up?
i fell asleep so hard i left FB on
8/21, 7:54amBarry Kort
5000 Tons?!? You got hit by an asteroid?
8/21, 7:54amHernandez Laura
hahahahahahahahahahah
no......but that hilarous
an SUv
8/21, 7:54amBarry Kort
They weight 5000 lbs, not 5000 tons.
8/21, 7:54amHernandez Laura
i'm glad it was not an asteroid
oh well then the doctor was wrong
he said....5000tons at 35mph
equal to 3G's of force
he was or is..he is just no longer my doc,
a pain specialist
i warn you
8/21, 7:55amBarry Kort
A ton is 2000 lbs, so 5000 tons is 10,000,000 lbs. That's the weight of a large building.
8/21, 7:56amHernandez Laura
thanks for clafyfing that
i'm so grateful
clarifying
i was beginning to think......
8/21, 7:56amBarry Kort
You were a pedestrian on foot when you were hit by the SUV?
8/21, 7:56amHernandez Laura
no
i was in my toyota corolla
that only had 26,000 miles on it
and he made an accordion out of the front of my car
either way
i was saved
8/21, 7:57amBarry Kort
Oh, well that changes the distribution of force, since you were wearing armor (the metal shell of the Toyota).
8/21, 7:57amHernandez Laura
by my ADHD......lol
yes
that does change the distribution of force
if i had been on foot
God only knows what the outcome would have been
I've met two people that were hit while on foot
can you imagine??
i can't
8/21, 7:59amBarry Kort
You would have had to vault the hood of the SUV if you were on foot. It's like vaulting a bull. Hard to do w/o a lot of practice.
8/21, 7:59amHernandez Laura
well
i think my vaulting days ended when we left the depotivo chapultepec...(club in Mexico City) was more into running then
8/21, 8:00amBarry Kort
If God were with you, God would have provided the faculty of "vaulting the charging bull" -- a skill one can learn real fast if it is going to save your life.
8/21, 8:01amHernandez Laura
and you're right that takes a lot of practice, everyday to vault...and balance...and dive....and swim
Well then i guess God must have taken a dive outta there
8/21, 8:02amBarry Kort
It's hard to vault the bull while sitting behind the wheel of a Toyota Corolla.
8/21, 8:02amHernandez Laura
but do you know what saved me
?
there was a median
to my left
when the light turned green
my light
8/21, 8:03amBarry Kort
The energy absorbing front end of the Toyota.
8/21, 8:03amHernandez Laura
and the cars kept moving
no
well yes that too
the time that the movement of the cars going in the opposite direction
and the time it took to locate and focus on
the woman that was stopped at the red turning light
to turn in front of me
must have been 6 7 seconds
i mean 6 or 7
that is what first saved me
i didn't just go when the light turned green
then he would have t boned me
like a steak
and then you are right Barry
then my car saved me
8/21, 8:05amBarry Kort
So you were delayed long enough to avoid a head-on high-speed impact.
8/21, 8:05amHernandez Laura
yes
i was
8/21, 8:06amBarry Kort
Did your air bag help?
8/21, 8:06amHernandez Laura
he hit me coming from the left
no
my air bag did not go off
which everyone was amazed
8/21, 8:06amBarry Kort
Driver's side?
8/21, 8:07amHernandez Laura
i'm so tiny i hate to have that thing blow out on me
yes
i mean
the doors on the other side did not open
8/21, 8:07amBarry Kort
Your air bag did not go off because your own vehicle did not decelerate.
8/21, 8:07amHernandez Laura
the bumper was on the gound
the frame of the car was bent
my vehicle was only going 1 mph
or so
8/21, 8:07amBarry Kort
I presume your car was totalled.
8/21, 8:08amHernandez Laura
i had just put my foot on the accelerator
i love talking to you
you have such an analytical way
of looking at things
8/21, 8:08amBarry Kort
That's why your air bag did not deploy. Your own vehicle did not suddenly decelerate.
8/21, 8:08amHernandez Laura
i had never looked at it like this
no
it did not
had no time
actually
8/21, 8:08amBarry Kort
I am a science educator. Can you tell?
8/21, 8:09amHernandez Laura
i did take my foot off the accelerator and pushed it on to the break
but it really didn't do anything there was hardly any speed to stop
within my vehicle
8/21, 8:09amBarry Kort
What you didn't have time to do was slam your car into reverse and back out of the path of the SUV.
8/21, 8:09amHernandez Laura
what 1mph
correct
all i had was seconds
between the time i looked left and saw this huge green thing coming at me
8/21, 8:10amBarry Kort
Your only other option would be to drive sideways from the path of the collision. But you had no way to do that.
8/21, 8:10amHernandez Laura
and it hitting me
no
i was in the right hand lane next to the curb
8/21, 8:10amBarry Kort
When I was on foot and a car came accelerating straight at me, I just calmly stepped sideways, out of its path.
8/21, 8:10amHernandez Laura
how did you know that
?
i would expect you to stay calm
i mean
you sound like a very well balanced individual
8/21, 8:12amBarry Kort
The optimal escape, when you are slow-moving, but can move in any direction you like, is to move sideways relative to the path of the oncoming monster. Monsters cannot turn, but are obliged to continue on a straight line.
8/21, 8:13amHernandez Laura
Why didn't i read this before 2004
?
but then again
i would have had no sideways
it was seconds
8/21, 8:13amBarry Kort
I actually studied that in Operations Research, but one also knows it intuitively.
8/21, 8:13amHernandez Laura
between seeing him and impact
i only had a chance to, are you ready for this one,
talk about retarded reaction
8/21, 8:14amBarry Kort
You were in a car at a full stop, not on foot. You couldn't turn 90 degrees in that vehicle.
On foot, it is not that hard to step sideways out of the path, if you have enough time to do so.
8/21, 8:15amHernandez Laura
i locked my elbows in, by instict...turned my head to the right, to look away, and clenched my jaw and slammed my right foot on to the break
i put (by instinct) my body in the worse position.....however an instinctive move to protect
8/21, 8:15amBarry Kort
Most of the time, instinct causes you to do the right thing to minimize the damage.
8/21, 8:16amHernandez Laura
Most of the time
by holding on so tight and turning my neck
8/21, 8:16amBarry Kort
That's how Darwinian Selection works. The survivors pass on their genes -- the ones coded with the best survival instincts.
8/21, 8:17amHernandez Laura
i hurt scapula area.....levetor scapula
rhomboids
i forgot the names of the three groups
of muscles
8/21, 8:18amBarry Kort
Your shoulder blad.
8/21, 8:18amHernandez Laura
oh and the menenges.....
8/21, 8:18amBarry Kort
blade.
8/21, 8:18amHernandez Laura
no
or i don't know
in about a week
everything exploded
and the pain went to heights
i don't like to remember
i had a 8 lbs tumor inside my uterus i didn't know about
that got shoved down into the pelvis
so from April until September
i was laying on those cushions you put on ice
8/21, 8:19amBarry Kort
8 lbs? That's the size of a watermelon.
8/21, 8:19amHernandez Laura
in the freezer
that's what they said it weighed
8/21, 8:20amBarry Kort
8 lbs of tissue is a gallon.
8/21, 8:20amHernandez Laura
and it was the size of a grapfruit
it was a fibroid
i have no idea
8/21, 8:20amBarry Kort
A grapefruit is much less than a gallon.
8/21, 8:20amHernandez Laura
i'm so glad to be having this conversation
since i know nothing about what weighs what
8/21, 8:20amBarry Kort
A grapefruit is no more than 2 pints, or 2 lbs.
8/21, 8:21amHernandez Laura
maybe the docs are picking on the parts of me that are ignorant
8/21, 8:21amBarry Kort
Tissue is about as dense as water.
8/21, 8:21amHernandez Laura
but i did loose eight lbs......
after surgery
8/21, 8:21amBarry Kort
A pint's a pound, the world around.
8/21, 8:21amHernandez Laura
then again
i lost four pints of blood
they said
i hemorraged the day they took it out
8/21, 8:22amBarry Kort
You can lose a gallon of body fluid, but it wasn't all in the tumor.
8/21, 8:22amHernandez Laura
the tumor....the non threatning tumor
as daddy liked to call it
8/21, 8:22amBarry Kort
All that blood loss is at the same rate -- a pint of blood weighs a pound.
8/21, 8:22amHernandez Laura
actually it was the day after
no i lost blood from what i've been told
at 8am i was at 10 hemoglobin
by 4pm i was at 5 hemoglobin
8/21, 8:23amBarry Kort
And if you are not eating or drinking after surgery, your digestive tract empties out And that carries a lot of material, too.
8/21, 8:23amHernandez Laura
that's when dad had a fit
i don't get it
shouldn't he of had a fit at 8
8/21, 8:24amBarry Kort
He was scared for you.
8/21, 8:24amHernandez Laura
i don't get it
he is an internist/cardiologist
screw scared
it's time to act
8/21, 8:24amBarry Kort
Fear (and loss of control) makes people go nutz.
8/21, 8:24amHernandez Laura
daddy don't do that
he is a doctor
8/21, 8:24amBarry Kort
A doctor has to keep his wits about him.
8/21, 8:24amHernandez Laura
yes
correct
He was doing "doctor decorum"
it's called who is carrying the ball
8/21, 8:25amBarry Kort
But one cannot be a doctor to their own child, because one cannot be objective when the patient is one's own child.
8/21, 8:25amHernandez Laura
and you don't get to step in their ground while they have the ball
i would not say that characterises my dad
he is a control freak
8/21, 8:26amBarry Kort
An intelligent doctor will call in another doctor when it's their own child who needs doctoring.
8/21, 8:26amHernandez Laura
but he's my control freak
okay
dad's not too intelligent then
lol
no really
8/21, 8:26amBarry Kort
Do you know the antidote to respond to a control phreak?
8/21, 8:26amHernandez Laura
he did call my doctor
no
please tell me
8/21, 8:28amBarry Kort
The opposite of a Control Phreak is an Observation Phreak. You portray the scene as insightfully and as artistically as possible, and that's all you do. No intervention, just documentation with artistic precision.
8/21, 8:28amHernandez Laura
well then you are asking the right girl
to do this
8/21, 8:28amBarry Kort
That's why I was correcting your report, because you had data that didn't add up.
8/21, 8:28amHernandez Laura
i am artistic and insighful
insightful
thanks for adding it up for me
8/21, 8:29amBarry Kort
But you also need to have surgical precision with the numbers -- the weights and measures and forces and science.
8/21, 8:29amHernandez Laura
it is nice to have the truth just for truths sake
i have often thought that they were not telling things the way they were
8/21, 8:30amBarry Kort
It's also essential, because whoever has control has no guidance w/o the observational data.
They were not, because it was obvious to me the data was bogus. An SUV does not have the mass of a 5000 ton asteroid.
And so on.
8/21, 8:31amHernandez Laura
an suv doesn't weigh 5,000 tons
Barry i am a total idiot when it comes to distance weight
all i know is i weigh 95 lbs
and my grandaughter weighs 16lbs
other than that
i have never been good at even determening how far this is from that
if you had to call it
or how much do you think that weighs
8/21, 8:33amBarry Kort
You know that a quart of milk is two pints. And a pint of milk weighs one pound.
An 8-ounce glass of milk weighs half a pound.
8/21, 8:34amHernandez Laura
a quart of milk is? which size....
8/21, 8:34amBarry Kort
A quart is a liter.
8/21, 8:34amHernandez Laura
no didn't know that 8 oz= 1/2 lbs
see...i think that's where my brain got
confused
when i was ten
we moved back to the states
from Mexico
everything i knew to measure
was in kilometers
mm
8/21, 8:35amBarry Kort
A tall beverage glass holds 8 ounces. A quart of milk can serve four people, if each gets a tall 8-oz glass of milk.
8/21, 8:35amHernandez Laura
cm
so a quart is 4 , 8oz glasses
?
8/21, 8:36amBarry Kort
A liter is 1000 cubic centimeters.
8/21, 8:36amHernandez Laura
yes
i guess
8/21, 8:36amBarry Kort
Yes, a quart (or liter) is four 8-oz glasses.
8/21, 8:36amHernandez Laura
and a gallor is how many liters
no
8/21, 8:36amBarry Kort
Four.
8/21, 8:37amHernandez Laura
a gallon is how many quarts? four?
8/21, 8:37amBarry Kort
Four quarts (or liters) to the US Gallon.
Your head is about a gallon.
8/21, 8:38amHernandez Laura
MMmmmm.....i better start drinking more water
8/21, 8:38amBarry Kort
A "Ten Gallon Hat" is actually only about a gallon.
8/21, 8:38amHernandez Laura
what?
how can ten gallons be one
8/21, 8:39amBarry Kort
You know those tall cowboy hats that are called Ten Gallon Hats?
8/21, 8:39amHernandez Laura
this has to be a trick thing
yes
i'm in texas
8/21, 8:39amBarry Kort
They are actually just one gallon. The name is a bit of a joke or exaggeration.
8/21, 8:40amHernandez Laura
with cowboys and big belt buckles
see i knew that was a tric comment
8/21, 8:40amBarry Kort
Cowboys tend to exaggerate.
8/21, 8:40amHernandez Laura
probably from a texan
thanks for telling me that
i just thought they are liars
hahahahaha
but actually
i had an ex from Oregon that did the same
8/21, 8:41amBarry Kort
Cowboys and Fisherman tell tall tales and exaggerate a lot.
8/21, 8:41amHernandez Laura
exaggerate
Ahh...that's it
he is a sailor by heart
and from the sounds of it Texan docs do more of that then the usuall
8/21, 8:42amBarry Kort
Outdoorsmen are story tellers who like to exaggerate and tell tall stories of their adventures and exploits.
8/21, 8:42amHernandez Laura
usual
8/21, 8:43amBarry Kort
See, they are trying to impress you. But you are not impressed.
8/21, 8:44amHernandez Laura
MMMmm.....i just so don't see the use in living outside of reality.....in the seen world anyway.
there's enough we dont' know about
that we could be focusing on
that might save a thing or two
instead of trying to make lies of what is already in front of you
makes no sense to me!
8/21, 8:45amBarry Kort
Maybe that's why you wanted a FB friend who was a scientist who tells it like it is and doesn't spin tall tales.
Most people find scientists boring, because we don't tell unbelievable stories.
Instead, we tell impenetrable theories.
8/21, 8:46amHernandez Laura
Well, actually Barry
i read some of your posts
and i am an empath
i feel
it is what i do
i wish i didnt
but i do
and you feel like such a brainiac
and simple
and open
8/21, 8:47amBarry Kort
Oh, so you can probably tell me my persistent emotional state. I'll tell you if you guess it correctly.
8/21, 8:47amHernandez Laura
and + smart
you persistent emotional state?
i've never heard anyone put it like that
but yes
okay
8/21, 8:48amBarry Kort
I'm over-educated. But how well can you guess my persistent emotional state?
8/21, 8:48amHernandez Laura
i geel your persistent emotional state is that of feeling a bit weird around others...
almost as if you don't fit in
8/21, 8:49amBarry Kort
Marginalized?
8/21, 8:49amHernandez Laura
feel not geel
Marginalized?......mean zero in
8/21, 8:49amBarry Kort
Alienated and marginalized?
Not belonging to the In-Crowd?
8/21, 8:50amHernandez Laura
You will have to forgive me, Engish is my third language
but Alienated resonated with me
yes
8/21, 8:50amBarry Kort
Not in the middle of the pack.
8/21, 8:50amHernandez Laura
no
you stand aside from the pack
are you the oldest?
in siblings
8/21, 8:51amBarry Kort
Most scientists are far from the middle of the pack, and many are marginalized (like Galileo).
8/21, 8:51amHernandez Laura
oh and you have red hair
like my baby girl
8/21, 8:51amBarry Kort
I am the younger of two brothers.
Yes, I have red hair, like Galileo, too.
8/21, 8:51amHernandez Laura
Well....Galileo.....now there's a subject
Galileo had red hair
i didn't know that
8/21, 8:52amBarry Kort
Yes. So did Socrates.
8/21, 8:52amHernandez Laura
Yes my baby girl has red hair
i have a picture of me at Accropolis
outside
the gate
of what they said
was Socrates prison
and i stood where they said
8/21, 8:52amBarry Kort
8/21, 8:53amHernandez Laura
Plato and Aristoteles gave discourses
okay
cool
8/21, 8:53amBarry Kort
Anyway, you haven't quite zeroed in on my most ubiquitous and persistent affective emotional state.
8/21, 8:56amHernandez Laura
ubiquitous
?
be my dictionary
8/21, 8:57amBarry Kort
Ever-present. Found everywhere, all the time.
8/21, 8:58amHernandez Laura
you're right i don't feel what you are talking about.
8/21, 8:59amBarry Kort
See, I have given you a puzzle -- to name my most common and persistent affective emotional state -- and you are perplexed.
8/21, 9:00amHernandez Laura
yes but you don't know why
8/21, 9:00amBarry Kort
You appear to be clueless on that particular puzzle.
8/21, 9:00amHernandez Laura
this is a game dad use to play with us
we would be in the car and he would say
what am i thinking right now
8/21, 9:00amBarry Kort
Because the answer isn't coming to you, as it normally would when you feel what someone else is feeling.
8/21, 9:00amHernandez Laura
lol
yes
i don't see or feel what you are talking about
clueless
8/21, 9:01amBarry Kort
Yes, you are feeling clueless, even though I just gave you a huge clue.
Scroll up a couple of comments, where I ventured a guess as to how you were feeling. What word did I use to name your affective emotional state?
8/21, 9:02amHernandez Laura
i'm looking up affective
8/21, 9:03amBarry Kort
Affective is just a synonym for an emotional state.
8/21, 9:03amHernandez Laura
yes i just found it
i'm blank
then again
hold on one minute
pain level 8
8/21, 9:04amBarry Kort
Are you vexed and perplexed?
You need an anodyne.
8/21, 9:08amHernandez Laura
ok back
i'm back
vexed?
anodyne?
Barry, you will keep me with my nose in the dictionary
and i already learn three words a day
8/21, 9:09amBarry Kort
Anodyne == Pain Killer.
8/21, 9:09amHernandez Laura
i open up wherever it willgo
oh
ok
what is anodyne
?
other than pain killer
effects
make up
8/21, 9:10amBarry Kort
It's anything that eases pain.
8/21, 9:10amHernandez Laura
i will look it up
oh it's not a new med
?
8/21, 9:10amBarry Kort
Not necessarily an analgesic. It might be a story that makes you feel better. Or a joke that makes you laugh instead of cry.
8/21, 9:11amHernandez Laura
oh
i get it
8/21, 9:11amBarry Kort
Or comfort food.
8/21, 9:11amHernandez Laura
anonado
in spanish
or desensitized
8/21, 9:11amBarry Kort
Aha. So you know this word in Spanish.
8/21, 9:11amHernandez Laura
yes
anonado
8/21, 9:11amBarry Kort
OK, so back to our Puzzles for Empaths..
8/21, 9:12amHernandez Laura
we moved when i was ten
oh no
not a puzzle
don't make me think
or feel
i'd rather
just let it flow
8/21, 9:12amBarry Kort
Have you figured out what is the name of my persistent and ubiquitous affective emotional state?
8/21, 9:12amHernandez Laura
in
8/21, 9:12amBarry Kort
You don't need to think. Just feel.
8/21, 9:12amHernandez Laura
ubiquitous
?
is
one
ubi
8/21, 9:13amBarry Kort
Ubiquitous = Always present.
8/21, 9:13amHernandez Laura
oh
love.......dunno
8/21, 9:13amBarry Kort
Like your persistent pain.
8/21, 9:13amHernandez Laura
your red hair
lol
8/21, 9:14amBarry Kort
Yes, it goes with me everywhere I go.
8/21, 9:14amHernandez Laura
was that the answer you were looking for
?
8/21, 9:14amBarry Kort
No. Because red hair is not an affective emotional state.
It's just a hair color.
8/21, 9:15amHernandez Laura
that's what you think
You are not your mother
let me tell you
you red heads
are a breed of your own
8/21, 9:15amBarry Kort
It is indeed what I think.
8/21, 9:15amHernandez Laura
i know
i raised one
and it is an emotional state
8/21, 9:15amBarry Kort
Yes, I am Sui Generis.
8/21, 9:16amHernandez Laura
can we talk basic english......
o i'm sorry that's italian......
8/21, 9:17amBarry Kort
Sui Generis == In a Class by Themselves == A breed of their own.
8/21, 9:17amHernandez Laura
yes
okay
and affective emotional state....red hair
hence
8/21, 9:17amBarry Kort
I am just echoing your thoughts in other words.
8/21, 9:17amHernandez Laura
yes you are
so do you have a red temper
?
8/21, 9:18amBarry Kort
So... back to our Puzzle for Empaths...
8/21, 9:18amHernandez Laura
when's your bday
8/21, 9:18amBarry Kort
Do you feel that I am losing my temper?
8/21, 9:18amHernandez Laura
thanks Barry
you're the only one making me think more instead of telling me i thik too much
8/21, 9:18amBarry Kort
January 20th. On the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius.
8/21, 9:19amHernandez Laura
oh boy
whata combo
hold on
this should be interesting
8/21, 9:19amBarry Kort
I'm a watery old goat.
8/21, 9:19amHernandez Laura
hahahahahahaha
8/21, 9:19amBarry Kort
Capricious and Fluid.
8/21, 9:19amHernandez Laura
this is the second time you have me laughing out loud
8/21, 9:21amBarry Kort
See, now you are laughing instead of being bound up in painful thought.
8/21, 9:22amHernandez Laura
i am in level 6 laughing
okay
do you want to hear this
?
it is from a book
called the day you were born
8/21, 9:22amBarry Kort
Hear you laugh out loud?
8/21, 9:23amHernandez Laura
by Linda Joyce
no your day silly
8/21, 9:24amBarry Kort
Linda Joyce was laughing out loud at Level 6, the day I was born?
That's Pretty Funny.
8/21, 9:24amHernandez Laura
here you go baby
your ubiquitous affective emotional feeling
8/21, 9:25amBarry Kort
Linda == Pretty and Joy == Fun.
8/21, 9:25amHernandez Laura
lol
8/21, 9:25amBarry Kort
Linda Joyce == Pretty Funny.