Francisco Costa Barreto
This is the continuation of Francisco Costa Barreto's Facebook PM Chat Log with me.
I urge you to put this entire Chat Log, from beginning to end, online verbatim, as a raw data base.
You will have to do it in multiple pages, as it's too long to fit on a single web page. But put it all up, online, in its entirety, verbatim and unredacted, from start to finish.
And without changing names. Use our real names and real avatar pix.
Ok. No changes. And I'll do it in multiple pages. Verbatim, and unredacted.
Excellent. Take your time and do it as cleanly as you are able.
Thanks for the help. I've already started doing so.
You can also consider publishing similar long PM Chat Logs with others on FB.
That's okay for me. I think it's great. I have no problems with that. I think it's a great idea. Of course I'd need consent for each one of my contacts for that.
Yes, for the others you will need consent. From me you never needed consent because I urged you to take this chat public long ago.
Yes. I remember that now. I just don't recall why I haven't done so. Anyhow, that was a nice really nice idea.
I even recall one day thinking of publishing it, but then I retreated because I didn't recall your consent!
It's my consistent preference and recommendation to all who open private chats with me. I much prefer all traffic in the open.
That means I did not read our insightful chat ever since.
Stop hoarding it already. Liberate it for others to learn from, too.
I also feel some sort of responsibility to do it.
You have an ethical duty to publish this chat log.
I feel this way. Now let me go do it.
Done. Go do it.
Posted.
URL?
Ah, here http://fcostadutra.blogspot.com.br/
I beg your pardon.
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damn one sec
Would you please give it one more try?
I've changed links. Missed that. Urgh. It should work now.
Yah. It works. (I only tried the .pdf)
Okay. The editing is on progress.
I've decided to uploade the files while working on making the data neat and available online, divided into pages.
Glad it works.
Super. Then, after you have the raw data log set up for processing, you can begin extract key passages where you gleaned insights, learned something worthwhile, and annotate your associated emotional state (if you can recall it).
That will be great.
It'll allow for some analytics to it.
I think I'll be able to recall the emotions associated with what I learned.
That's really important.
Then you'll have a superb data base.
Enough to construct a path-breaking Ph.D Thesis out of.
Indeed. But more important than that is, I think, how to really get the best out of networking. How to be a better person, how to lead a better life.
Juice the wisdom out of the data and encouraging others to do the same.
Oh, I'm reading the Imaginary App, by the way, I want to mention.
There you go. And going forward, you can do the same for the next generation, and perhaps have open seminars, online instead of multiple parallel PMs running side by side with half a dozen correspondents.
I'm sorry for how I've treated you in the past. And I'm glad to be working on this.
Okay. Thanks, let me get back to work.
Cuz I'll clue you in. It's really exhausting to have the same 3000-comment chat going in parallel with half a dozen correspondents all who want to learn pretty much the same thing.
I understand.
Good. Because that will make it easier for you in the future, when the next generation comes to you in onesies and twosies seeking parallel private chats. You'll be able to show them that there was no damage, no harm in doing it all in open source public venues.
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I think I've found a way to work on your model.
Excellent. Go to it!
Thanks!!!
[Thumbs Up]
Mind if I share in advance some thoughts I'll post on my blog?
You're the founder of the theory I'm working on. So I propose we talk a bit to clarify some points, if you will, nothing I won't publish.
Go ahead. I'll read and comment.
I am working on a map of sorts between physics concepts such as momentum and flux and your learning model.
My purpose is to define work, fields, field lines,
equipotential surfaces...
I've been thinking hard, sorry if I'm not making much sense. It's just that since you made analogies with motion, why not go a bit further.
It has also crossed my mind the possibility of modeling a thought-emotion unified field theory.
As an analog of electricity and magnetism.
There's a differential equation that comes up as a description of a pendulum motion. That would be a nice candidate to describe the flow of the learning journey
Take it to the next level, Francisco.
By all means, pick up the ball and run with it!
Run with it, Francisco! Run with it!
Did you like what I just wrote?
What I like is that you have some ideas to work with.
Because it's cool, it can be mapped and I think I can go further
Good.
Thanks! I'm running!
I forgot to mention the circuit analogy.
Turn the juice on. Light up the circuit.
I was considering a workable learning loop analogous to a circuit with a battery
Currents, all that comes thinking Physics.
You might want to watch Jaak Panksepp's TED Talk.
Let me watch it,
You have my permission to watch it.
Thank you
You're lucky I didn't withhold permission, eh?
I am.
Delightful talk
I've spent a significant part of my life struggling with sufferring, depression, anxiety disorders, loneliness and on. I have a lot to say. I endured those times and I'm still here and I think I really do have a lot to contribute to the understanding of what are emotions and how we can alleviate some disorders
I'm in search of a project.
I feel I need some resting now.
Catch you later.
Later, Francisco.
Each time I read your papers and essays I get a fresh perspective on the issue.
By the way I was just with a headache.
I'm forgetting something essential!
My own, personal experience.
I think I may have something to post this evening.
I'm sorry I'm writing back here. It's that I need to mention two things - I haven't graduated yet. I'm a dropout. Also, I feel there's a few books I need to read, but it might be an illusion I need more knowledge.
AH, not my idea! Sorry
Just as James Clerk Maxwell showed how electricity and magnetism are coupled, we believe there is a similar coupling among the three economies that needs to be understood and explored.
Still there?
You tried to clue me in to insights in our dialogues and aha moments, insightful moments.
I'm making things way too complicated
I am sorry. I'm behaving as before.
Playing D&D.
If you post on thread, it will work functionally.
ok
I can't work anymore without resting. I pushed myself too hard.
What I've written is senseless (almost)
I did start writing.
I just finally blurted out some insights
1:28 here I don't want to disappoint you
I have to go sleep
sorry
I'm not giving up okay? I hope you don't lose that credit you gave me for that, I admit, was a hugely driving force.
Someone I admire telling me I can do something meaningful that I really like
Abandon your fear. Abandon your trepidation. Abandon your timidity. Just do it.
YES.
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Morning.
I am sniffing much more math in your model. Super exciting!
As I was skimming through my Precalculus I was able to see the imaginary axis, think of Euler's identity and the turning point of insight formation, and more.
Terrific.
I'm cracking the puzzle!
hun
These remarks belong on the public thread. Did you duplicate them there?
Of course. I'm sleep deprived. Well remarked!
done
There is no need to replicate everything in both PM and on the public thread.
How about the allusions to the Musical Offerring?
Six-Part Ricercar@
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I should wait until I figure things out. I'm playing the fool. There's a lot more and I have to examine each of those exciting pieces.
I recognize that as coming from DRH. I presume that is queued up on the public thread, where I will get to it sometime this morning, probably after breakfast.
I should get something to eat also
Good morning
You should also take the time to organize your material so as to make it possible for me to attend to it in a conscientious and comprehensive session of deep reasoning, as I am fairly useless attending to fragments dribbled at me over a period of time.
Sounds quite fair. Deal.
It also sounds like a considerably more functional and considerate practice.
Ok. I felt like grabbing my copy of Mindstorms.
See you later, dear cyberfriend.
For some reason, I cannot tag your name on a thread.
Let me check my settings.
Ok some changes made
Let me try again.
okay
worked!
What did you change?
Was it some feature of "Receiving Notifications"?
Tagging settings I didn't even remember how they were
Settings --> Tagging
There is a settings for that? I never knew.
yup. Timeline and Tagging.
Is it a general setting for all of FB, or a settings that applies to classes of people who can or cannot tag you?
It's on/off
Or Friends/Only me/Public, there's no feature for selecting a specific list of users.
Jeez, that's complex set of tagging options. Whew.
My brain is kind of fried. I really cherish you Barry. Thanks for this delightful time full of insights and companion.
I'd have to study it for an hour to figure it out.
I have to go for now.
Later. Please consolidate your thoughts and comments and post them as coherently as you can on the public thread. Little micro-essays.
Sometimes the puzzle grabs me and this one is keeping me awake, but I really cannot process much further
Okay!
Eat breakfast and/or take a nap.
you too!
I'm gradually getting more of your essays.
I need to understand well the problem first
[Francisco goes back to GEB]
I'm going to write something so as not to forget. I'm re-reading The Little Harmonic Labyrinth.
I am looking forward to your Debut Essay.
I'm loving all this.
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Saturday
I don't want to disappoint you again
I feel I have to rest and I also feel I need to look into Mindstorms and GEB again.
I can also publish what I have so far. I just need to order the insight-bricks
The truth is that I am exhausted. I've got thrilled yesterday and I ran out of my ADHD pills. I took a lot of them and I am ashamed.
\_(ツ)_/¯
Shrug.
I'm still trying to recover my health Barry. And you thrilled me when you believed in me when I though I was lonely.
Shrug?
The caption describes the body language gesture.
Yeah, I know.
That stroke me as rude and insensitive of you. And it's hard to believe that yesterday I felt someone believed in me and when I express my vulnerability I get a cold blooded austere insensitive reply. You killed my motivation.
Baloney. It's your life. I am not your Geppetto.
You're mean. You enjoy hurting people, don't you.
If you plan to have a relapse, we can wait another four years.
I tell you what. I'm now 70 years old. Let's wait 15 years this time. OK?
Then I'll be 85 years old, which is my life expectancy, after which it will no longer be possible to blame me for your lack of motivation. Does that work for you?
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Today
Hello Barry.
I was reading Mindstorms.
I'm clueless about how to contribute to your research field.
So I thought I needed more information.
I have a reading list.
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You annoy me profoundly.
No teu cu.
FDP.
"No tee with"? What does that mean in an English idiom?
What does FDP stand for?
FDP:= Son of a Bitch.
No teu cu:= Get that finger in your asshole.
Fecior de curva?
Spanish has strange idioms.
Would you do me a favor, Francisco?
No.
Are you leaving it up to me to do it, then?
Do as you think it's best for you.
Do you prefer I put it on your timeline, or mine?
bloody bastard.
Do you have a preference?
spread your shit as you wish
in your ass, as I said.
I have a better idea where to put it.
bloody bastard
What else would you like to express?
Why haven't you gone further yourself with your model by extending physics analogies
I ran out of ideas.
And calculus
bullshit
I took it as far as I could.
you're lazy
What else am I, Francisco?
Smart.
Anything else?
Sure, but I ran out of ideas
Not a problem. I know an excellent way to obtain fresh ideas.
Sure you do.
Do you wish to attend as I demonstrate?
okay
Can you give them the URL to the Thread and Comment you are reacting to?
Can you give ME the URL to the Thread and Comment you are reacting to?
You want the answer to that given to you on a silver plate, or you rather figure out you're not as consistent as you think you are?
If you'd rather leave it as an Easter Egg Hunt, I reckon I can find it soon enough.
'm sorry.. This way of interacting with people does not resound with my style. I reckon it was just a transfer of my state of anger and disappointment with my life status-quo.
I sort of understand that. Not completely, mind you, but sort of.
Listen, I have to call my shrink and I hope you forgive me.
There is no need for me to forgive you. I am not upset with you.
I'm not upset with you either, right now.
I reckon you will be, soon enough.
I reckon you're driving your assumptions based on your model of my avatar. I don't think you believe in revenge. You aren't a resentful boy.
Correct. I believe in bearing non-judgmental but accurate witness.
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