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Date: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:03 PM
From: jcnreno@charter.net
To: (hidden)
Subject: Re: Grievance, Barnum vs. Mitchell
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(Hidden)
Please tell The Grievance officer that I strongly object to Karen Mitchell
bringing my Mother's name into this grievance. She is in the last days of her
life at this time in Titusville Florida.
Thanks,
Charles
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Personal emails from Grievance Representative to C. W. Barnum:
Date: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:25 PM
From: jcnreno@charter.net
To: (hidden)
Subject: Re: Your thoughts are needed
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(Hidden)
I will be at my daughter's house until midnight.
If you need me for anything call collect (hidden. My wife will answer and
relay your message to me via cell phone.
Thanks a million,
Charles
--- (Hidden)wrote: ---
> Hello Charles,
>
> Wanted to touch base with you on preparing a statement in the event the AB
> does convene a hearing against Karen. I believe they might be inclined to
> do so since we asked only that she be declared a MNIGS.
>
> Seems there is trouble in CA where the SC is also expelling members and the
> AB perhaps won't wish to go through the GA debacle again. However, they do
> have to show that they are supporting the CCs against rogue SCs.
>
> If they use your situation to find Karen MNIGS then they can wave that flag
> at the SC from CA hoping it might calm so troubled waters there.
>
> Anyway, the approach I propose is to show that Karen had an agenda when she
> became the SC of NM, that agenda was to expel you at all cost. It was a
> vendetta planned and executed using whatever out of context material she
> could use.
>
> There are sufficient petty things she has done to show this, i.e., her
> refusal to simply link you to the NM list as she would have done for anyone
> else. In fact, if she was going to insist that all members be subscribed
> she should have subscribed everyone and told them if they didn't want to
> stay on the list they could remove themselves. Some SCs have done this, I'm
> sure.
>
> In the case of NM with only 18 members it would have been simple enough.
>
> Next, her list of 68 statements showing derogative remarks against you
> shows that she has been keeping a permanent file. She actually admitted
> this in the SWSC list discussion.
> Keep in mind there were only 18 members, but she made it appear as if 68
> separate messages were received.
>
> Something here we might play with. She stated on the list in March that she
> had lost all of her email messages and was wanting members to send her
> something, don't know what.
>
> Anyway, proof that the above statements weren't in her back log of email
> messages, but came from a file she was keeping against you.
>
> Next, bringing the SWSC discussion to NM list shows her intent to discredit
> you.
>
> Next, the NM logo discussion where she indicated all were to use, her
> insistence it was official and then when proven wrong going the I never
> said mandated route, etc.
>
> Next, your suggestion of a data base for the NM counties which was liked by
> several CCs but she used the sniggering "harvest" term rather than an
> honest seeking of CC opinions.
>
> Next, and I'm uncertain here. Was there a conflict between Karen and you
> concerning her Taos list, was she excluding some people from using the list
> because they weren't USGW members and that was the reason you went to
> RootsWeb asking for a decision on list use?
>
> When your opinion prevailed, is that when she delinked you from the Taos list?
>
> Next, when Angela vilified you she did nothing.
>
> Next, her so obvious ploy to establish justification for your dismissal.
> Indicating in her message that she you told her you were being sued when in
> fact you told her just the opposite. She was attempting to show just how
> upright she was and I believe we can show here just how dishonest she is.
>
> Charles, I believe our best evidence against her is the message she sent
> you with the link to -I think you're God- poem. This occurred right after
> your -link me to the list- discussion and when you finally gave in and
> linked yourself she then sent that message.
>
> You stated you thought she wished you dead. Perhaps <grin> But I, being
> outside saw her as a play ground bully taunting you. A bare knuckle alley
> fighter that once getting someone down starts kicking them in the head. I
> believe that will play very big with the AB.
>
> I have read every archived message on the NMGENWEB-L. However it starts in
> 2003, after Leon was no longer SC. I understand Leon had surgery and wanted
> a leave of absence or at least for someone to fill in for him until he
> could recuperate. That is when you rightly suggested the need for an
> election. Is that correct? Who was the opposition, Karen? Kimer? Susan?, etc.
>
> I may have that wrong, it is just an impression.
>
> However, Angela's attack on you suggested you drove him out, not the other
> way round.
> Actually if he knew he was to have surgery and asked for time off, her
> statement is false on two accounts, First the heart problem surfaced before
> the request for elections and secondly Leon never left the project, that is
> until after Karen was made SC. He resigned in January of 2006.
>
> You see what I'm getting at, there is more that can be developed, her
> slanders in her message to the board, false accusations, innuendos
> suggesting you padded the voting lists for USGW, etc.
>
> So, if you have other things I haven't mentioned or have some background
> that would help me present evidence against her I would certainly
> appreciate it.
>
> We will probably have only one shot, that being a written statement showing
> her vindictiveness, her misstatements, her plans to trap you into actions
> that would
> have justified your removal, etc.
>
> Let me know if there is any thing else that can be proved against her.
>
> We know she never charged you with anything prior to expelling you,
> actually she still hasn't. She never intended that you receive any kind of
> a hearing let alone a fair one.
> She did show by her actions that she used her "fear" of a lawsuit to delay
> any action you could take. She did show that confidentiality was never her
> consideration in refusing to mediation. She laid all her cards on the table
> with her rant, that helps our case.
>
> Well, this is not a plan, nor is it an outline of our statement, it is just
> things I've been mulling over in my head that can be used in a statement of
> cause that we can present to the AB when and if they do have a hearing for
> her.
>
> So, let me know your thoughts and suggestions.
>
> I haven't heard anything from the AB about the amended grievance.
>
> (Hidden)
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Karen's "God" message taunting Barnum.
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:22 AM
From: jcnreno@charter.net
To: (hidden)
Subject: Re: Looking for a couple of files
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Directly below is the "path" details for Karen's God Message. What struck me was
the title:
"I can Only Imagine" i.e., http://www.andiesisle.com:80/icanonlyimagine.html
The video covered death, or after life. I took it that she could only image if I were dead.
Charles Barnum
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Date: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:55 PM
From: jcnreno@charter.net
To: (hidden)
Subject: Re: Posted page and another question
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Here is the material you requested.
My Mother is (Hidden), nee Thompson.
She was born 14 September 1918. She has a terminal disease and has been
incompetent for the last ten years. She does not know me nor her own name.
She lives in Florida under 24 hour care.
She has never helped me on the web site nor does she have any knowledge of it.
She is not the same person named (Hidden). (Hidden) lives near El Paso
Texas and has helped with El Paso TXGenWeb providing thousands of tombstone
photos to the El Paso Co. CC. She used to be a CC for Santa Fe County NM, but
resigned for reasons she did into share with me. I was her Co-CC for Santa Fe
County.
I am the person responsible for placing the large Rosario Cemetery online on
Santa Fe County NMGW while serving as (Hidden)'s Co-CC. That database was sent to
me by the compiler. I could have just placed it on NM ALHN but I chose to place
it on Santa Fe Co as well. I do not know if the new CC kept it on his web site.
Regarding data, I offered to put all of the data existing on NM ALHN under the
umbrella of USGenWeb by a request to Bettie Wood a few months ago. I requested
to make NM ALHN an affiliated web site with USGenWeb much like the Friends of
USGenWeb are. Bettie said my request was denied by the AB.
I have on occasions offered to allow CCs to use data from NM ALHN. I did so
again last week to a CC whose name I should not mention.
I have also arranged large databases for NMGW for another CC which she has
placed online.
About the strange charges about my family. I did not read all of the email Karen
Mitchell sent to the AB. It was a stupid email deserving no detailed analysis by
me.
Mitchell stated I was 62 years old. That is not true. She stated my Mother was
82 years old. That is not true. She stated that my granddaughter was about 20
years old. That is not true.
I will offer no detailed data about those people as I see no reason to provide
further personal data about my family which Mitchell might use and publish. I
will state that my granddaughter will assume ownership of NM ALHN after I pass
away. I have always considered my personal websites to be a Family project with
the intention of them continuing after I pass away. I saw no reason not to place
the names of family members on it. It is not a USGW project and should not be a
subject for them to investigate.
About my using aliases on other USGenWeb sites, that is a lie. I have belonged
to NM MAPS, NM AAG, California Obituaries, NM Marriages, Washoe Co NVGenWeb,
Santa Fe NM NMGW as Co-CC, Rio Arriba NMGW as Co-CC, Torrance Co NMGW, as CC,
Pitkin Co COGW CC, Kit Carson Co COGW CC, and a NCGW County as Co- CC and
another as CC.
I have only used the name Charles Barnum. I invite an investigation to determine
if I belong to any other USGenWeb project under another name or have ever done
so.
As for my using other names on NM ALHN, NM ALHN does not have any rules about
anonymous submitters nor restrictions about using an aliases. There are three
people who use aliases on NM ALHN. They do not want to draw attention to their
self for reasons that I will not state. However, The identity rules of USGenWeb
do not apply to my personal web sites.
My main webmasters are (Hidden) who lives near El Paso and often works with
(Hidden) on projects. Another is (Hidden) who was also the CC of Rio
Arriba NM GW who resigned a couple of weeks after Mitchell was elected.
(I might add here that Jo Foxx of Bernalillo County and Leon Moya of Mora County
also resigned after Karen took over as SC.( Karen was never elected, she was
declared the SC. No one knew she was even running.)
I have recently removed the names of the Co-Webmasters from the "About Us" page
on NM ALHN. I do not want to subject them to any further investigations like was
made about my family by Karen Mitchell.
One final word about my family. Last year I removed the name of (Hidden) Barnum, my
wife, from the web site. I did this at her request. She had received a
disturbing email from someone stating that (She) was not a real person. It was
mildly threatening. (She) told me to get her name off the web site. (She) has
been a typist for the web site for years. I removed her name and used my name
in place of her name on the works she did. I thought at the time that the email
to her was a crank, but I now have a suspicion that it is connected to the
current situation. I did not save that email unfortunately.
Regarding the URL page you constructed: One word, Brilliant.
I have nothing to add. It is not too much nor too little. It is Brilliant.
Charles Barnum