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Monday 24 April 2000:
Regarding the seating of a Census Project representative, Pam Reid asks
"Isn't it time we moved along on this so that we can get to Motion 00-6?"
[Well, there is that pesky Motion 00-9 that is still on the floor...]
Pam replies to her own email, asking "Is Motion 00-6 a dead issue now? Did
Tim's Exec. action kill 00-6?" She then notes that if Motion 00-6 is
dead, then the Board needs to vote on Motion 00-9 and move on. In her
opinion, "the Archives issue MUST be resolved...we need to make this an
immediate priority, whatever it takes. The situation...is getting worse
every day." [Not _every_ day. Only those days that Our Esteemed NC
decides to "fix" things.]
Shari Handley agrees with Pam and suggests it might be best if a motion
were made "to immediately hold a vote to fill the seat with one of the
candidates whose names have already been put forth."
===
"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to
resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change
of circumstances, become his own."
---Thomas Jefferson
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Monday 24 April 2000:
Tim Stowell opens the vote on Motion 000-9. He once again notes that any
votes accompanied by commentary will be discarded, but Board members can
send their comments in a separate message. A 2/3 majority is required
to pass Motion 00-9. By press time, one Board member had voted "yes".
Our Esteemed National Coordinator cc's to the Board a letter also sent to
CONFERENCE-L in which he responds to some concerns expressed by Ron Eason,
national coordinator of the Census Project. Tim implies that the CP wasn't
given 72 hours notice prior to the delinking because they have been asked
for months "to make the changes to your pages that would stop the
copyright violation." He also says that the ACP is the "Original Census
Project" and that the CP is "incorrectly named in the Bylaws." He also
claims that "While the CP has some new files in it - it does have files
pirated from the Archives." [Someone really ought to ask him to document
this point]. Tim reminds Ron that the ACP did agree to let the merged
project keep the name USGW Census Project and to separate directories for
census transcriptions that would not be under Archives control. He asks
Ron for a list of things the CP desires in a merger and the things it will
give up in concession. Tim also says "the Special Projects are not like
State Projects. Texas isn't responsible for Idaho records nor is Idaho
responsible for Delaware records. Each state is responsible for it's own
records. The Special Projects named in the Bylaws being National in scope
are handled in a different way." [This was in response to a statement
Ron made about the bylaws and the "identity and legality" of the Census
Project; Tim's statement has nothing apparently to do with Ron's. It
does, however, represent an interesting departure from the standard line
that the bylaws treat the SPs similar to states and thus the SPs have the
same rights and responsibilities as the states.] Tim also notes "Either
the files from census transcriptions at a national level will go into the
Archives - or it won't be a national effort...The census transcriptions
were started so that ALL such transcriptions would go into our national
digital library." Finally, Tim tells Ron that "delinking for copyright
violation is not unwarranted" and asks why the CP didn't just fix the
copyright violations and ask to be relinked.
===
Maggie Speaks Corner: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman, leader of the Archives
Census Project, has finally broken her long silence on CONFERENCE-L. She
says, basically, that she hasn't seen any messages from Ron Eason that
require an answer nor has she seen evidence that he is "agreeable to a
merger." She notes that although there are numerous attempt to either
negotiate or force a merger, she doesn't think any of them will work,
stating, "Any serious merger negotiation needs to be directly between
myself and Ron, since past efforts to negotiate with others were
fruitless. I believe a more private forum is necessary for dialogue
between myself and Ron, because too many other participants and issues
only cause confusion and misunderstandings." She also notes that Ron
appears unwilling to step down as coordinator of the CP [which position he
was elected to by its members]; however, if he were willing, she could not
at this time identify anyone that would be acceptable to all project
members. A co-directorship, she notes "is a nice idea, but the
hierarchial structure of password-assignment seems to suggest that only
one person can be "at the top." But Co-Directors would certainly have to
trust and respect one another." She claims that John Schunk's proposal
represented a greater risk to the Archives than to the CP, since "Nobody
stays in a position forever, and if I were to resign (or be ousted by CP
personnel), there would remain an autonomous CP with a potentially
Archives-unfriendly new Coordinator." Maggie suggests a signed agreement
bwtween the USGenWeb Project, the USGenWeb Project, and the USGenWeb
Archives Project, Tim Stowell, Ron Eason, Maggie respectively serving as
signatories. Maggie's vision of the Census Project is as follows:
"1. My Vision of Census Project
A liason that is a conduit for communication and facilitates the smooth
operation of the entire Census Project. The person acts as an ombudsman
to mediate any of the bumps in the road that are sure to occur especially
in the transition to assist in mediating.
A. USGW Census Project does the recruitment for transcripton...Once the
transcriptions are complete (this includes work in sections within a
county, such as by townships, ED's etc.) they are turned over to the
Archives Census Project for formatting and storage.
B. USGW Archives Census Project does the file formatting and storage in
the Archives....
[Both of these would retain their pages and logos]
This would be a "Working Together" of both projects. The volunteers
could be absorbed into the appropriate project.
2. What happens with the Delinking of the USGW Census Project and the
issues surrounding this action are up to the Advisory Board of the
USGenWeb Project as is the filling of the Census Project representative
seat. The copyright infringement issues regarding the web pages should be
addressed with Holly Timm.
3. A blurb on the "front page" of both project's web sites appraising
everyone about the division of responsibilities between the two projects.
4. A copy of this agreement to be distributed to every transcriber and
all other Census Project and Archives Census Project personnel in the
USGenWeb Project and posted on the public USGW lists (SC, -ALL, -cc,
regionals)."
Maggie is also serving as a conduit for Linda Lewis to post to
CONFERENCE-L, although Linda is no longer subbed there [having stomped off
in a huff sometime last week]. Linda says that "we" [presumably meaning
she and Maggie or the Archives/ACP] never "suggested that the census
project cease to be called a "special" project. We've never suggested that
census project lose any identity. What I *am* most certainly concerned
about, is making sure in the future that the census project cannot be
ripped away like it was, from its home. If someone can calculatingly move
it from under the USGenWeb Archives umbrella, they can calculatingly move
it to another project entirely. I wouldn't doubt if some other projects
aren't already courting Ron, and the CP folks, to gain control of it."
[So the issue really who is who controls the CP and its data.]
===
"Two farmers each claimed to own a certain cow. While one pulled on its
head and the other pulled on its tail, the cow was milked by a lawyer."
---Jewish parable
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Tuesday 25 April 2000:
Voting continues on Motion 00-9, to "ratify the National Coordinator's
delinking of the Census Project". Thus far, 3 Board members have voted
"yes" and 3 have voted "no".
===
Sauce For the Goose Corner: We hear that the NC and the Board are getting
a bit of mail these days from unhappy Census Project transcribers who
have not only found their transcriptions in the Archives but found that
they have been altered to show they were transcribed for "the USGenWeb
Archives Census Project." At least one of the aggrieved parties is
threatening to notify not only the management of Root$web, but also the
local genealogy and historical societies for whom the work was originally
done and whom have not given their permission for the work to be placed in
the Archives.
Since these transcribers did not donate their work to the ACP [it instead
harvested by the Archives, which runs a mirror of the CP site without the
CP's permission] and they are now demanding that it be removed from the
Archives, the Archives is apparently in violation of their copyright. We
wait with bated breath for the imminent delinking of the ACP and the
Archives over this very serious breach of USGW policy.
Helping Those Who Help Themselves Corner: The Archives and its coordinator
have a rather extensive history of acquiring files in interesting ways.
In Aug 1998, for example, Linda Lewis copied several sets of files from
the the KSGenWeb Digital Library without their owners' permission (this
author's among them), and placed them into the USGW Archives. In July
1999 she apparently instructed Maggie Stewart Zimmerman to repost under
another name several files that a submitter had insisted be removed. And
back in November 1998, the VAGenWeb Archives was formally threatened with
legal action for copying work from the "Valley of the Shadow Project" of
the University of Virginia and placing it into the USGW Archives. An
excerpt of the letter from William G. Thomas, Director of the Virginia
Center for Digital History, from Nov 10 1998, reads:
"I am writing to inform you that your VAGenWeb files on Augusta county are
in violation of U.S. copyright law. The files are clearly those of the
Valley of the Shadow Project at the University of Virginia, ...transcibed
by the Valley Project staff in 1991-96 as a part of the project work
comparing Augusta County, Va., with Franklin Co., Pa., in the era of the
Civil War. The structure of the data and some of the data itself make
clear that it came from the Valley of the Shadow Project. Your wonton
[sic] violation of copyright is remarkable and deplorable. We will
protect firmly our ownership rights to this material and have contacted
our attorneys regarding your violation."
===
"The law doth punish man or woman,
That steals the goose from off the common,
But lets the greater felon loose,
That steals the common from the goose."
---proverb, origin unknown
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Wednesday 26 April 2000-Thursday 27 April 2000:
Voting continues on Motion 00-9. Thus far, 4 Board members have voted
"yes", five have voted "no" and one has abstained. [The final two votes,
the abstention and a no vote were posted well after the close of the
usual 48 hour voting window. Tim, for some reason, did not call the vote
in 48 hours; if he had, no quorum would have been obtained. If he is
consistent he will throw out the last two votes and there will have been
no quorum, but we shall see.]
===
Point/Counterpoint Corner: The airing of grievances between the two
census projects marches on and is spreading into new forums. More
transcribers have written to the Board demanding that their files be
removed from the Archives Census Project. At least one of them has
addressed the Board as the "Archives Advisory Board." At least one State
Coordinator has felt compelled to disassociate his state organization
entirely from the actions of Our Esteemed National Coordinator and the
Board, since complainants have also directed their dismay at state
level officers. Joy Fisher, writing on CONFERENCE-L, has made the point
that should the CP alter or move its files it will change the date stamp,
and she insists "The Census Project must leave a copy of the files in the
directories they now reside in to protect the transcribers. The
directories can have their permissions changed to prevent others from
viewing the files, but as I see it, they need to remain." [Sounds like
they are getting desperate over at the Archives to find some way to retain
access to these files. I've never known them to be so picky over dates
before.]
What All the Fuss Is About Corner: The CP transcribers who are requesting
that their files be removed from the Archives are mainly upset over the
wholesale alteration of the copyright statement on the ACP mirror version
of their files. Apparently, some files are being altered by the ACP file
managers to imply that the transcription was done for the ACP and to
provide an "Archives Census Project" permission statement rather than the
standard USGW one. An example of an altered copyright statement follows
[altered information is in brackets; names and locations were removed]:
"This Slave Schedule was transcribed by TRANSCRIBER'S NAME and proofread
by PROOFREADERS NAME for the USGenWeb [Archives] Census Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/[~usgenweb]/census.
Copyright (c) 2000 by TRANSCRIBER'S NAME
************************************************************************
USGENWEB [ARCHIVES CENSUS PROJECT] NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT
be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by any other
organization or persons. Persons or organizations desiring to use this
material, must obtain the written consent of the contributor, or the legal
representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist
with proof of this consent. [The submitter has given permission to the
USGenWeb Archives to store the file permanently for free access.]
[http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/]
************************************************************************ "
The Concerned Citizen who forwarded the above example has also sent me a
list of 95 files found in the ACP directories that apparently had this
change made on March 31 or April 1 of this year. This documentation
represents what they have found to date and is not exhaustive. And
particularly interesting is that some of the files involved were submitted
by Kay Mason. For an example compare the file found at:
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/census/fl/leon/1850/pg0036a.txt [ACP
version, dated 1 Apr 2000]
to the one found at:
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/fl/leon/1850/pg0036a.txt [CP version,
dated 1 Oct 1999]
[If anyone wants to see the full list of altered files, just ask]
Yet Another Concerned Citizen has compared three versions of the same file
found at different places within the various USGW Special Projects:
1. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ms/kemper/1850/sl00001.txt [CP file
dated 12/15/99, 99666 bytes]
2.
http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ms/kemper/census/1850/sl00001.txt
[CP file dated 12/27/99, 96584 bytes]
3.
http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/census/ms/kemper/1850/sl00001.txt
[ACP file dated 03/31/00, 96777 bytes]
The only difference between files 1 and 2 appears to be minor formatting
that resulted in a decrease in bytes only; there were no changes in
the text. Files 2 and 3 differ in two respects: A) for whom the census was
transcribed [Files 1 and 2 were transcribed "for the USGenWeb Census
Project http://www.usgenweb.org/census"; File 3 was transcribed "for the
USGenWeb Archives Census Project
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census"; submitter names and other info
remain the same]; and B) the permission language [Files 1 and 2 both
contain the standard USGenWeb Notice; file 3 has the Archives Census
Project notice given above].
Apparently the practice of altering files obtained from the CP is quite
widespread. [Thanks to our readers to sending this information along].
The Shape of Things To Come Corner: This URL has been making the rounds
lately; I have no idea whether or not it is serious:
http://www.geocities.com/ncdelink/index.html
===
"A man may see how this world goes with no eyes. Look with thine ears: see
how yond justice rails upon yond simple thief. Hark, in thine ear: change
places; and, handy-dandy, which is the justice, which is the thief?"
---William Shakespeare, "King Lear"
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Friday 28 April 2000:
Our Esteemed National Coordinator declared Motion 00-9 failed due to lack
of a quorum. During the 48 hour voting window, 4 Board members voted yes,
four voted no and seven failed to vote. After the 48 hour window, one
additional member voted no and one abstained. [We have an interesting
situation. The Board has both failed to overturn and failed to ratify the
NC's illegal action. Although some CCs have already asked if this most
recent non-action means the NC will relink the CP, I wouldn't bet on it.]
===
Credit Where Credit Is Due Corner: From an anonymous reader:
"I looked through the 10 files that are listed on the apr24.htm newsletter
and 8 of the files were transcribed, submitted, and processed for
uploading through the Census Project not the Archives. This is consistent
for all of their newsletters that have listed the Census
Additions/Updates. The vast majority of the transcriptions on their lists
are those processed by the Census Project, but they list them to make it
look like they have been processed by the Archives. And this same thing
follows through on their State Census Status web-pages with the ACP
buttons that should be CP buttons. The Archives Census Project takes the
credit for the hard work that is being done by the Census Project
volunteers."
The newsletter referenced above is the Archives Newsletter and can be
found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/newsletter/2000/apr/apr24c.htm
Although the newsletter does list them as "USGenWeb Archives Census
Project Census Additions/Updates", they do not seem to have been altered
in the manner of the files reported yesterday [showing submission to the
ACP and using the ACP copyright/permission statement].
===
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving car keys and
whisky to teenage boys."
---P.J. O'Rourke
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From merope@Radix.Net Sat Apr 29 16:13:04 2000
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This just came over the wire, from Ron Eason, coordinator of the Census
Project. It is addressed to Tim Stowell, but was cc'd to a very wide
variety of sources, including all the Board members, the USGw-CC list,
USGENWEB-ALL, various project members, Linda Lewis, and Brian Leverich.
-Teresa
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:51:32 -0400
From: Ron & Kathy <rkeason@tir.com>
Subject: New Lockout
Tim Stowell
I want to make this short but sweet. We have now been locked out of our
directory from the main home page level through the state pages and other
levels to where we can't do button updates or other maintenance that needs
to be done. Having just regained access to our pages, while doing regular
button updates and maintenance we have found ourselves locked out and have
no access to our pages. We can only summise that these are Rootsweb
employees, or Tim Stowell or Linda Lewis who are the assumed holders of the
passwords for these directories other than ourselves. Sometime after 11:00
pm on 4/28/00, one of these people changed the passwords for our particular
directory level in effect locking us out. Due to the continuing problems
pertaining to our directories, our pages and our files, we find ourselves in
a situation where we cannot trust the Server, the Board, or the Archives and
that due to this action whether intended or unintended, we must vacate the
premises on Rootsweb due to security reasons and will be relocating to a new
server. This move will be made this weekend and we will hopefully have all
pages and files uploaded to the new server by Sunday night. The new address
will be submitted to each of the lists and addresses so that the good people
who use these pages will still find the same project in the new location
safe from the hands of outsiders who obviously don't care.
Thanks,
Ron
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Saturday 29 Apr 2000:
A quiet day in Board-land; there was no Board-L traffic on this date.
===
Prodigal Son Corner: Our Tim is at it again. Following the announcement
yesterday by the USGenWeb Census Project that it will be moving its files
to a new server, Tim Stowell has effectively decided that leaving RW is
equivalent to leaving the USGW and has ordered the CP to cease and desist
using the USGW name and logo.
Ron Eason's letter to Our Esteemed National Coordinator mentioned only
that the CP would be leaving Root$web for security reasons, following
a change in their passwords that denied them access to their directories.
At least is some part their decisin was precipated by this
occurrence [sent in by a CP member]:
"Someone altered the West Virginia State Assignment Status web page last
night. All of the files in the states subfolder are time stamped 20000428
22:43. The only one I can find so far that looks like it has been altered
is the West Virginia file at:
http://www.usgenweb.org/census/states/westvirg.htm Someone added "Archive"
in the line, and "Archives" in the line above my name. The file is now
write protected and I cannot change it."
[Please check out this url. This page has the standard blue CP background
and CP logo. But at the top of the page, someone has changed the title to
read "USGW Archives Census Project" and had altered the page to make it
appear as if Connie Burkett is the USGW Archives Census Project
coordinator for West Virginia. They cannot now change it back, since they
cannot write to the directories any more.]
In a rebuttal letter, Tim Stowell noted that the CP's passwords were not
changed, and "What was removed, were write privileges to the national
directory, after a Board member questioned why you had access to the
national usgw account. No other special project had such access." He
also notes that the CP has continued access to its directories at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwcens/ and all CP pages are still viewable.
Tim tells Ron that the census files were submitted via the CP to the USGW
Project and to the USGW Archives and asks if he has the permission of
every submitter to move the files. [He doesn't neet it. He is not
removing the files from the USGW Project. He's moving them onto another
server.]
Tim also states, "Since you are leaving - and are no longer part of the
USGenWeb Project - please remove our name and logos from your pages."
[This is a new one. Changing servers is cause for dismissal from the
Project?]
Some reactions to recent events from Project members:
"I have seldom seen such a determined effort to rout such a large group of
volunteers from this project. Where in Ron's message does it say that the
USGenWeb Census Project is leaving USGW? They are changing servers, which
I might say is entirely thanks to you and your unwarranted meddling. You,
and this Board, are charged with working for the best interests of ALL the
volunteers of the USGW Project. Not exactly what's happening is it?"
---Ginger Hayes, USGENWEB-ALL
"IMO, Ron is just exercising his right as the elected coordinator of the
USGenWeb Census Project in putting OUR pages on a server, of his choice,
and announcing this fact to US and letting us know why the pages are
going to be moved."
---Debi Kendrick, USGENWEB-ALL
"Does this mean that *EVERY* USGenWeb Project *MUST* be housed at
RootsWeb? If so, when was this decision made, and who made it? When was
it voted on? When did the USGenWeb Census Project cease to be a part of
the USGenWeb? When it was delinked? Submissions have been made to the
USGenWeb Census Project, NOT the USGenWeb Archives Census Project. Does
the USGenWeb Archives Project intend to get permission from each and every
submitter of their data to be placed into the Archives project?"
---Connie Bates, USGW-CC-L
"I wish you well. My advice to you is that in the future, it would be
better to make sure you have all the facts right before you act as both
judge and jury...It is difficult for me to believe you would be lock out
of your own web page. You think you were locked out of all four
directories?"
---David Young, USGENWEB-ALL
"Who changed the write privileges at 22:43 (pm) April 28?...And somebody
at that time ***ALTERED*** West Virginia's title page. Not Connie Burkett,
since she couldn't get in (it's HER STATE) because the userid and password
were altered. And my personal reply to your DICTATORIAL demand on leaving
- I will take MY county projects of your grabbing hands if you insist on
kicking the Census Project out of the USGenWeb Project, since a good
number of County Coordinators are also Census transcribers!!!!"
---W. David Samuelsen, USGENWEB-ALL
"Doesn't the CP Cooridinator have the right to use whatever server he
wishes to store the census files in? Is there something in the bylaws
which says the CP MUST stay on RW???...When a person submits their file to
the USGW Census Project, I doubt very much they ask what server the file
is being maintained on. Since I do not see Ron say he is quitting the
USGenWeb, only RW, the files are still part a of the USGenWeb."
---Debi Kendrick, USGENWEB-ALL
Growing Pains Corner: The WYGenWeb has recently elected a new SC and ASC.
They are Carol Haagensen [SC] and Suzanne Leonard [ASC], both of whom have
been serving as "acting" in their respective positions for some time.
Congrats to both!
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Today's quote is from a reader:
"I have stated that an opposition by force of arms to the lawful authority
of the King or his Ministry is high treason, but in the moment when the
King, or his Ministers, shall exceed the authority vested in them by the
Constitution submission to their mandate becomes treason."
---Chief Justice Chew, Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, 1776
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-Teresa Lindquist
merope@radix.net
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