Apr 24-30 2000

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Monday 24 April 2000:

Regarding the seating of a Census Project representative, Pam Reid asks

"Isn't it time we moved along on this so that we can get to Motion 00-6?"

[Well, there is that pesky Motion 00-9 that is still on the floor...]

Pam replies to her own email, asking "Is Motion 00-6 a dead issue now? Did

Tim's Exec. action kill 00-6?" She then notes that if Motion 00-6 is

dead, then the Board needs to vote on Motion 00-9 and move on. In her

opinion, "the Archives issue MUST be resolved...we need to make this an

immediate priority, whatever it takes. The situation...is getting worse

every day." [Not _every_ day. Only those days that Our Esteemed NC

decides to "fix" things.]

Shari Handley agrees with Pam and suggests it might be best if a motion

were made "to immediately hold a vote to fill the seat with one of the

candidates whose names have already been put forth."

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"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to

resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change

of circumstances, become his own."

---Thomas Jefferson

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Monday 24 April 2000:

Tim Stowell opens the vote on Motion 000-9. He once again notes that any

votes accompanied by commentary will be discarded, but Board members can

send their comments in a separate message. A 2/3 majority is required

to pass Motion 00-9. By press time, one Board member had voted "yes".

Our Esteemed National Coordinator cc's to the Board a letter also sent to

CONFERENCE-L in which he responds to some concerns expressed by Ron Eason,

national coordinator of the Census Project. Tim implies that the CP wasn't

given 72 hours notice prior to the delinking because they have been asked

for months "to make the changes to your pages that would stop the

copyright violation." He also says that the ACP is the "Original Census

Project" and that the CP is "incorrectly named in the Bylaws." He also

claims that "While the CP has some new files in it - it does have files

pirated from the Archives." [Someone really ought to ask him to document

this point]. Tim reminds Ron that the ACP did agree to let the merged

project keep the name USGW Census Project and to separate directories for

census transcriptions that would not be under Archives control. He asks

Ron for a list of things the CP desires in a merger and the things it will

give up in concession. Tim also says "the Special Projects are not like

State Projects. Texas isn't responsible for Idaho records nor is Idaho

responsible for Delaware records. Each state is responsible for it's own

records. The Special Projects named in the Bylaws being National in scope

are handled in a different way." [This was in response to a statement

Ron made about the bylaws and the "identity and legality" of the Census

Project; Tim's statement has nothing apparently to do with Ron's. It

does, however, represent an interesting departure from the standard line

that the bylaws treat the SPs similar to states and thus the SPs have the

same rights and responsibilities as the states.] Tim also notes "Either

the files from census transcriptions at a national level will go into the

Archives - or it won't be a national effort...The census transcriptions

were started so that ALL such transcriptions would go into our national

digital library." Finally, Tim tells Ron that "delinking for copyright

violation is not unwarranted" and asks why the CP didn't just fix the

copyright violations and ask to be relinked.

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Maggie Speaks Corner: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman, leader of the Archives

Census Project, has finally broken her long silence on CONFERENCE-L. She

says, basically, that she hasn't seen any messages from Ron Eason that

require an answer nor has she seen evidence that he is "agreeable to a

merger." She notes that although there are numerous attempt to either

negotiate or force a merger, she doesn't think any of them will work,

stating, "Any serious merger negotiation needs to be directly between

myself and Ron, since past efforts to negotiate with others were

fruitless. I believe a more private forum is necessary for dialogue

between myself and Ron, because too many other participants and issues

only cause confusion and misunderstandings." She also notes that Ron

appears unwilling to step down as coordinator of the CP [which position he

was elected to by its members]; however, if he were willing, she could not

at this time identify anyone that would be acceptable to all project

members. A co-directorship, she notes "is a nice idea, but the

hierarchial structure of password-assignment seems to suggest that only

one person can be "at the top." But Co-Directors would certainly have to

trust and respect one another." She claims that John Schunk's proposal

represented a greater risk to the Archives than to the CP, since "Nobody

stays in a position forever, and if I were to resign (or be ousted by CP

personnel), there would remain an autonomous CP with a potentially

Archives-unfriendly new Coordinator." Maggie suggests a signed agreement

bwtween the USGenWeb Project, the USGenWeb Project, and the USGenWeb

Archives Project, Tim Stowell, Ron Eason, Maggie respectively serving as

signatories. Maggie's vision of the Census Project is as follows:

"1. My Vision of Census Project

A liason that is a conduit for communication and facilitates the smooth

operation of the entire Census Project. The person acts as an ombudsman

to mediate any of the bumps in the road that are sure to occur especially

in the transition to assist in mediating.

A. USGW Census Project does the recruitment for transcripton...Once the

transcriptions are complete (this includes work in sections within a

county, such as by townships, ED's etc.) they are turned over to the

Archives Census Project for formatting and storage.

B. USGW Archives Census Project does the file formatting and storage in

the Archives....

[Both of these would retain their pages and logos]

This would be a "Working Together" of both projects. The volunteers

could be absorbed into the appropriate project.

2. What happens with the Delinking of the USGW Census Project and the

issues surrounding this action are up to the Advisory Board of the

USGenWeb Project as is the filling of the Census Project representative

seat. The copyright infringement issues regarding the web pages should be

addressed with Holly Timm.

3. A blurb on the "front page" of both project's web sites appraising

everyone about the division of responsibilities between the two projects.

4. A copy of this agreement to be distributed to every transcriber and

all other Census Project and Archives Census Project personnel in the

USGenWeb Project and posted on the public USGW lists (SC, -ALL, -cc,

regionals)."

Maggie is also serving as a conduit for Linda Lewis to post to

CONFERENCE-L, although Linda is no longer subbed there [having stomped off

in a huff sometime last week]. Linda says that "we" [presumably meaning

she and Maggie or the Archives/ACP] never "suggested that the census

project cease to be called a "special" project. We've never suggested that

census project lose any identity. What I *am* most certainly concerned

about, is making sure in the future that the census project cannot be

ripped away like it was, from its home. If someone can calculatingly move

it from under the USGenWeb Archives umbrella, they can calculatingly move

it to another project entirely. I wouldn't doubt if some other projects

aren't already courting Ron, and the CP folks, to gain control of it."

[So the issue really who is who controls the CP and its data.]

===

"Two farmers each claimed to own a certain cow. While one pulled on its

head and the other pulled on its tail, the cow was milked by a lawyer."

---Jewish parable

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From merope@Radix.Net Wed Apr 26 13:40:44 2000

Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:40:29 -0400 (EDT)

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Tuesday 25 April 2000:

Voting continues on Motion 00-9, to "ratify the National Coordinator's

delinking of the Census Project". Thus far, 3 Board members have voted

"yes" and 3 have voted "no".

===

Sauce For the Goose Corner: We hear that the NC and the Board are getting

a bit of mail these days from unhappy Census Project transcribers who

have not only found their transcriptions in the Archives but found that

they have been altered to show they were transcribed for "the USGenWeb

Archives Census Project." At least one of the aggrieved parties is

threatening to notify not only the management of Root$web, but also the

local genealogy and historical societies for whom the work was originally

done and whom have not given their permission for the work to be placed in

the Archives.

Since these transcribers did not donate their work to the ACP [it instead

harvested by the Archives, which runs a mirror of the CP site without the

CP's permission] and they are now demanding that it be removed from the

Archives, the Archives is apparently in violation of their copyright. We

wait with bated breath for the imminent delinking of the ACP and the

Archives over this very serious breach of USGW policy.

Helping Those Who Help Themselves Corner: The Archives and its coordinator

have a rather extensive history of acquiring files in interesting ways.

In Aug 1998, for example, Linda Lewis copied several sets of files from

the the KSGenWeb Digital Library without their owners' permission (this

author's among them), and placed them into the USGW Archives. In July

1999 she apparently instructed Maggie Stewart Zimmerman to repost under

another name several files that a submitter had insisted be removed. And

back in November 1998, the VAGenWeb Archives was formally threatened with

legal action for copying work from the "Valley of the Shadow Project" of

the University of Virginia and placing it into the USGW Archives. An

excerpt of the letter from William G. Thomas, Director of the Virginia

Center for Digital History, from Nov 10 1998, reads:

"I am writing to inform you that your VAGenWeb files on Augusta county are

in violation of U.S. copyright law. The files are clearly those of the

Valley of the Shadow Project at the University of Virginia, ...transcibed

by the Valley Project staff in 1991-96 as a part of the project work

comparing Augusta County, Va., with Franklin Co., Pa., in the era of the

Civil War. The structure of the data and some of the data itself make

clear that it came from the Valley of the Shadow Project. Your wonton

[sic] violation of copyright is remarkable and deplorable. We will

protect firmly our ownership rights to this material and have contacted

our attorneys regarding your violation."

===

"The law doth punish man or woman,

That steals the goose from off the common,

But lets the greater felon loose,

That steals the common from the goose."

---proverb, origin unknown

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From merope@Radix.Net Thu Apr 27 08:52:18 2000

Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:52:16 -0400 (EDT)

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Wednesday 26 April 2000-Thursday 27 April 2000:

Voting continues on Motion 00-9. Thus far, 4 Board members have voted

"yes", five have voted "no" and one has abstained. [The final two votes,

the abstention and a no vote were posted well after the close of the

usual 48 hour voting window. Tim, for some reason, did not call the vote

in 48 hours; if he had, no quorum would have been obtained. If he is

consistent he will throw out the last two votes and there will have been

no quorum, but we shall see.]

===

Point/Counterpoint Corner: The airing of grievances between the two

census projects marches on and is spreading into new forums. More

transcribers have written to the Board demanding that their files be

removed from the Archives Census Project. At least one of them has

addressed the Board as the "Archives Advisory Board." At least one State

Coordinator has felt compelled to disassociate his state organization

entirely from the actions of Our Esteemed National Coordinator and the

Board, since complainants have also directed their dismay at state

level officers. Joy Fisher, writing on CONFERENCE-L, has made the point

that should the CP alter or move its files it will change the date stamp,

and she insists "The Census Project must leave a copy of the files in the

directories they now reside in to protect the transcribers. The

directories can have their permissions changed to prevent others from

viewing the files, but as I see it, they need to remain." [Sounds like

they are getting desperate over at the Archives to find some way to retain

access to these files. I've never known them to be so picky over dates

before.]

What All the Fuss Is About Corner: The CP transcribers who are requesting

that their files be removed from the Archives are mainly upset over the

wholesale alteration of the copyright statement on the ACP mirror version

of their files. Apparently, some files are being altered by the ACP file

managers to imply that the transcription was done for the ACP and to

provide an "Archives Census Project" permission statement rather than the

standard USGW one. An example of an altered copyright statement follows

[altered information is in brackets; names and locations were removed]:

"This Slave Schedule was transcribed by TRANSCRIBER'S NAME and proofread

by PROOFREADERS NAME for the USGenWeb [Archives] Census Project

http://www.rootsweb.com/[~usgenweb]/census.

************************************************************************

USGENWEB [ARCHIVES CENSUS PROJECT] NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT

be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by any other

organization or persons. Persons or organizations desiring to use this

material, must obtain the written consent of the contributor, or the legal

representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist

with proof of this consent. [The submitter has given permission to the

USGenWeb Archives to store the file permanently for free access.]

[http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/]

************************************************************************ "

The Concerned Citizen who forwarded the above example has also sent me a

list of 95 files found in the ACP directories that apparently had this

change made on March 31 or April 1 of this year. This documentation

represents what they have found to date and is not exhaustive. And

particularly interesting is that some of the files involved were submitted

by Kay Mason. For an example compare the file found at:

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/census/fl/leon/1850/pg0036a.txt [ACP

version, dated 1 Apr 2000]

to the one found at:

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/fl/leon/1850/pg0036a.txt [CP version,

dated 1 Oct 1999]

[If anyone wants to see the full list of altered files, just ask]

Yet Another Concerned Citizen has compared three versions of the same file

found at different places within the various USGW Special Projects:

1. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/census/ms/kemper/1850/sl00001.txt [CP file

dated 12/15/99, 99666 bytes]

http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ms/kemper/census/1850/sl00001.txt

[CP file dated 12/27/99, 96584 bytes]

http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/census/ms/kemper/1850/sl00001.txt

[ACP file dated 03/31/00, 96777 bytes]

The only difference between files 1 and 2 appears to be minor formatting

that resulted in a decrease in bytes only; there were no changes in

the text. Files 2 and 3 differ in two respects: A) for whom the census was

transcribed [Files 1 and 2 were transcribed "for the USGenWeb Census

Project http://www.usgenweb.org/census"; File 3 was transcribed "for the

USGenWeb Archives Census Project

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census"; submitter names and other info

remain the same]; and B) the permission language [Files 1 and 2 both

contain the standard USGenWeb Notice; file 3 has the Archives Census

Project notice given above].

Apparently the practice of altering files obtained from the CP is quite

widespread. [Thanks to our readers to sending this information along].

The Shape of Things To Come Corner: This URL has been making the rounds

lately; I have no idea whether or not it is serious:

http://www.geocities.com/ncdelink/index.html

===

"A man may see how this world goes with no eyes. Look with thine ears: see

how yond justice rails upon yond simple thief. Hark, in thine ear: change

places; and, handy-dandy, which is the justice, which is the thief?"

---William Shakespeare, "King Lear"

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From merope@Radix.Net Fri Apr 28 08:03:14 2000

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Friday 28 April 2000:

Our Esteemed National Coordinator declared Motion 00-9 failed due to lack

of a quorum. During the 48 hour voting window, 4 Board members voted yes,

four voted no and seven failed to vote. After the 48 hour window, one

additional member voted no and one abstained. [We have an interesting

situation. The Board has both failed to overturn and failed to ratify the

NC's illegal action. Although some CCs have already asked if this most

recent non-action means the NC will relink the CP, I wouldn't bet on it.]

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Credit Where Credit Is Due Corner: From an anonymous reader:

"I looked through the 10 files that are listed on the apr24.htm newsletter

and 8 of the files were transcribed, submitted, and processed for

uploading through the Census Project not the Archives. This is consistent

for all of their newsletters that have listed the Census

Additions/Updates. The vast majority of the transcriptions on their lists

are those processed by the Census Project, but they list them to make it

look like they have been processed by the Archives. And this same thing

follows through on their State Census Status web-pages with the ACP

buttons that should be CP buttons. The Archives Census Project takes the

credit for the hard work that is being done by the Census Project

volunteers."

The newsletter referenced above is the Archives Newsletter and can be

found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/newsletter/2000/apr/apr24c.htm

Although the newsletter does list them as "USGenWeb Archives Census

Project Census Additions/Updates", they do not seem to have been altered

in the manner of the files reported yesterday [showing submission to the

ACP and using the ACP copyright/permission statement].

===

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving car keys and

whisky to teenage boys."

---P.J. O'Rourke

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From merope@Radix.Net Sat Apr 29 16:13:04 2000

Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:13:03 -0400 (EDT)

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This just came over the wire, from Ron Eason, coordinator of the Census

Project. It is addressed to Tim Stowell, but was cc'd to a very wide

variety of sources, including all the Board members, the USGw-CC list,

USGENWEB-ALL, various project members, Linda Lewis, and Brian Leverich.

-Teresa

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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:51:32 -0400

From: Ron & Kathy <rkeason@tir.com>

Subject: New Lockout

Tim Stowell

I want to make this short but sweet. We have now been locked out of our

directory from the main home page level through the state pages and other

levels to where we can't do button updates or other maintenance that needs

to be done. Having just regained access to our pages, while doing regular

button updates and maintenance we have found ourselves locked out and have

no access to our pages. We can only summise that these are Rootsweb

employees, or Tim Stowell or Linda Lewis who are the assumed holders of the

passwords for these directories other than ourselves. Sometime after 11:00

pm on 4/28/00, one of these people changed the passwords for our particular

directory level in effect locking us out. Due to the continuing problems

pertaining to our directories, our pages and our files, we find ourselves in

a situation where we cannot trust the Server, the Board, or the Archives and

that due to this action whether intended or unintended, we must vacate the

premises on Rootsweb due to security reasons and will be relocating to a new

server. This move will be made this weekend and we will hopefully have all

pages and files uploaded to the new server by Sunday night. The new address

will be submitted to each of the lists and addresses so that the good people

who use these pages will still find the same project in the new location

safe from the hands of outsiders who obviously don't care.

Thanks,

Ron

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Saturday 29 Apr 2000:

A quiet day in Board-land; there was no Board-L traffic on this date.

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Prodigal Son Corner: Our Tim is at it again. Following the announcement

yesterday by the USGenWeb Census Project that it will be moving its files

to a new server, Tim Stowell has effectively decided that leaving RW is

equivalent to leaving the USGW and has ordered the CP to cease and desist

using the USGW name and logo.

Ron Eason's letter to Our Esteemed National Coordinator mentioned only

that the CP would be leaving Root$web for security reasons, following

a change in their passwords that denied them access to their directories.

At least is some part their decisin was precipated by this

occurrence [sent in by a CP member]:

"Someone altered the West Virginia State Assignment Status web page last

night. All of the files in the states subfolder are time stamped 20000428

22:43. The only one I can find so far that looks like it has been altered

is the West Virginia file at:

http://www.usgenweb.org/census/states/westvirg.htm Someone added "Archive"

in the line, and "Archives" in the line above my name. The file is now

write protected and I cannot change it."

[Please check out this url. This page has the standard blue CP background

and CP logo. But at the top of the page, someone has changed the title to

read "USGW Archives Census Project" and had altered the page to make it

appear as if Connie Burkett is the USGW Archives Census Project

coordinator for West Virginia. They cannot now change it back, since they

cannot write to the directories any more.]

In a rebuttal letter, Tim Stowell noted that the CP's passwords were not

changed, and "What was removed, were write privileges to the national

directory, after a Board member questioned why you had access to the

national usgw account. No other special project had such access." He

also notes that the CP has continued access to its directories at:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwcens/ and all CP pages are still viewable.

Tim tells Ron that the census files were submitted via the CP to the USGW

Project and to the USGW Archives and asks if he has the permission of

every submitter to move the files. [He doesn't neet it. He is not

removing the files from the USGW Project. He's moving them onto another

server.]

Tim also states, "Since you are leaving - and are no longer part of the

USGenWeb Project - please remove our name and logos from your pages."

[This is a new one. Changing servers is cause for dismissal from the

Project?]

Some reactions to recent events from Project members:

"I have seldom seen such a determined effort to rout such a large group of

volunteers from this project. Where in Ron's message does it say that the

USGenWeb Census Project is leaving USGW? They are changing servers, which

I might say is entirely thanks to you and your unwarranted meddling. You,

and this Board, are charged with working for the best interests of ALL the

volunteers of the USGW Project. Not exactly what's happening is it?"

---Ginger Hayes, USGENWEB-ALL

"IMO, Ron is just exercising his right as the elected coordinator of the

USGenWeb Census Project in putting OUR pages on a server, of his choice,

and announcing this fact to US and letting us know why the pages are

going to be moved."

---Debi Kendrick, USGENWEB-ALL

"Does this mean that *EVERY* USGenWeb Project *MUST* be housed at

RootsWeb? If so, when was this decision made, and who made it? When was

it voted on? When did the USGenWeb Census Project cease to be a part of

the USGenWeb? When it was delinked? Submissions have been made to the

USGenWeb Census Project, NOT the USGenWeb Archives Census Project. Does

the USGenWeb Archives Project intend to get permission from each and every

submitter of their data to be placed into the Archives project?"

---Connie Bates, USGW-CC-L

"I wish you well. My advice to you is that in the future, it would be

better to make sure you have all the facts right before you act as both

judge and jury...It is difficult for me to believe you would be lock out

of your own web page. You think you were locked out of all four

directories?"

---David Young, USGENWEB-ALL

"Who changed the write privileges at 22:43 (pm) April 28?...And somebody

at that time ***ALTERED*** West Virginia's title page. Not Connie Burkett,

since she couldn't get in (it's HER STATE) because the userid and password

were altered. And my personal reply to your DICTATORIAL demand on leaving

- I will take MY county projects of your grabbing hands if you insist on

kicking the Census Project out of the USGenWeb Project, since a good

number of County Coordinators are also Census transcribers!!!!"

---W. David Samuelsen, USGENWEB-ALL

"Doesn't the CP Cooridinator have the right to use whatever server he

wishes to store the census files in? Is there something in the bylaws

which says the CP MUST stay on RW???...When a person submits their file to

the USGW Census Project, I doubt very much they ask what server the file

is being maintained on. Since I do not see Ron say he is quitting the

USGenWeb, only RW, the files are still part a of the USGenWeb."

---Debi Kendrick, USGENWEB-ALL

Growing Pains Corner: The WYGenWeb has recently elected a new SC and ASC.

They are Carol Haagensen [SC] and Suzanne Leonard [ASC], both of whom have

been serving as "acting" in their respective positions for some time.

Congrats to both!

===

Today's quote is from a reader:

"I have stated that an opposition by force of arms to the lawful authority

of the King or his Ministry is high treason, but in the moment when the

King, or his Ministers, shall exceed the authority vested in them by the

Constitution submission to their mandate becomes treason."

---Chief Justice Chew, Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, 1776

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