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Sunday 6 August 2000-Monday 7 August 2000:
Shari Handley declares the motion to table Motion 00-24a passes with 9 yes
votes and 1 no vote [We count 10 yes votes, but Shari discarded her own
vote since she was acting NC].
Tim Stowell clears up some confusion as to Motion numbers: "The motion to
table 00-24a - the amended version of 00-24 was numbered 00-26 as 00-25
died when that motion to table was withdrawn." [well sort of. He's
missing a dash or something.] He gives Jim Powell's motion to suspend
Linda Lewis until the trademark application is resolved number 00-27 and
opens the floor for discussion.
Pam Reid moves to table Motion 00-27 and Maggie Stewart seconds the
motion. [the stonewalling and hypocrisy these people engage in is
utterly breathtaking].
Pam is once again confused by too many numbers, noting "I think we are
getting carried away and confused with all of this renumbering of motions.
According to RRofO, motions can be amended and amended again, as long as
the amendment is germane to the original motion."
===
PostElection Wrap-Up Corner: Here's one message sent by a SC just prior
to the end of the election:
"Normally we do not get into politics but this year we need to encourage
you to take a moment to vote. We would also like to share with you, who
we feel will best represent USGenWeb and ultimately OKGenWeb...We support
Tim Sowell for National Coordinator and Ken Short for SW/SC CC Rep.
because they have proven to us that they have the USGenWeb project
foremost in mind by previous decisions they have made concerning the
USGenWeb project......Their thoughts and ideas for the project are the
same we had when we joined USGenWeb several years ago. Actions by others
are slowly but steadily trying to undermine the project....Since joining
the project we have watch while the same names on messages fly back and
forth trying to undermine the project by name calling, mud slinging and
anti rootsweb innuendos in the name of "making the USGenWeb Project
Better". We do not agree with the beliefs of those that would try to tear
down our project while helping to build a similar project. Now those same
people are candidates for the broad and we do not feel they will represent
our best interest..."
No, I don't know what "anti rootsweb innuendos" have to do with the USGW
election, or what "similar project" she means, but there you have it.
[And as for "mudslinging," well, a simple comparison of my page to Ken's
page ought to clear that up. <g>]
A Simple Question Corner: Being curious, we wrote to Archives
anklebiter "Kelly" [Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net] asking who "we" is in her
quote from yesterday [you remember, the "Yahoo, we won" quote], and got
this back in reply:
"Please feed your paranoia elsewhere."
Now, this might seem like a simple question, but apparently its right up
there with "who owns the Archives" as something its better not to answer.
Question Of The Day Corner: Who do you suppose Linda Lewis will appoint to
the vacant Census Project seat? Kelly Mullins maybe? Kevin Fraley? Or
will it be Mary Ann Hetrick?
===
"Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion
and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage.
But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to
solve the truly serious problems that face us- and we risk becoming a
nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along."
---Carl Sagan
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-Teresa Lindquist
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Monday 7 August 2000-Tuesday 8 August 2000:
Teri Pettit agrees that Motion 00-10 should be rescinded. She does not
understand why Board members who voted against severing the Census Project
would now support finding Linda Lewis to be not in good standing. She
says "I would prefer to continue working to correct the original injustice
rather than taking part in another one just so that everybody is treated
equally badly." [For what it is worth, I think the consistency these
Board members speak of refers to consistency in the Board's actions. If
one project should be delinked for certain actions, then so should
another. If this requires them to be inconsistent in their personal
voting, so be it. Tit for tat, don't you know.] Teri also reiterates her
belief that "If it isn't contrary to the Bylaws, I think subproject
coordinators should be able to do whatever they please without asking a
by-your-leave." Teri comments also on the 4 conditions that Joe suggested
be placed on the Census Project before it is relinked. She sees no reason
for the Board to insist that the nonprofit USGenWeb Census Project, Inc.
be dissolved, noting "Several state projects have incorporated, and they
didn't have to ask for Advisory Board approval. There is plenty of
precedent that this is something that projects can do on their own without
seeking the approval of anybody except their own project members." She
asks to know what the underlying concerns with nonprofit incorporation are
so that the Board "can find a way to deal with those concerns without
requiring that the Census Project be dissolved." She notes that since
some transcribers specifically request that their transcriptions not go
into the Archives it might be a good idea to come up with a "transcriber
agreement" that "that informs new transcribers that the original purpose
of the USGenWeb Census Project was to coordinate the placement of census
transcriptions in the USGenWeb Project Archives, and that unless they
specifically request otherwise (via a checkbox on the form), a copy of
their transcriptions will be placed in the Archives." Teri says she
personally trusts Linda Lewis to "hold the trademark on behalf of the
USGenWeb Archives Project, as a subproject of The USGenWeb Project
Archives," but since so many people don't trust her "it would ease minds
all around if it were not registered in the name of any individual." She
thinks it would be OK to register the trademark to either the USGenWeb
Project or the USGenWeb Archives Project. She also asks for clarity on the
kind of oversight Joe is suggesting. Teri thanks Joe for his "open mind
and concern with fairness." She notes that even though he is the Archives
representative, he has "been more even-handed than many of the
non-Archives Board reps." [sorry, almost choked on that one. <g>]
Tim Stowell calls for a vote on the motion to table Motion 00-27. Thus
far, eight Board members have voted "yes".
Tim tries yet again to explain how motions are numbered to Pam Reid. He
says "Perhaps the motions to table shouldn't be numbered, but I did so to
try and keep a handle on what exactly was being voted upon."
Pam responds that she understands wha he was trying to do, but "The way I
understand RRoO, amendments, etc. to motions become a "part" of the
original motion, along as they are germane...Maybe there is now way around
the confusion when there has been as much activity on a topic as there has
been on this particular one...This subject had SO much discussion and so
many motions, withdrawels, amendments, etc. that I am not sure it would
have been possible to keep really good track."
===
A Simple Question Revisited Corner: Or, If You Can't Take The Heat, Get
Out of The Kitchen... In the continuing saga of my attempt to get a
simple answer to a simple question, I wrote back to Kelly Courtney
Blizzard [Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net] and again asked merely who "we"
referred to in her exuberant post-election comment the other day. I got
this in reply:
"Your email to Kellygirl3398@mpinet.net has been blocked, your email
address has been placed on a list to automatically send you this notice.
Please do not continue to attempt to contact me, these messages are being
logged, and continual attempts to contact me may result in your being
reported to your ISP for harassment."
Now, this is someone who has quite recently spread these jewels of
kindness out among the USGW volunteers:
"Terria, you are so low that you would have sit up to kiss a snake ! Are
you attempting to contact all of our volunteers and plant little seeds of
doubt?...I guess she is so hell bend on destroying the Archives that she
has nothing better to do than to lie about Linda Lewis and also appear to
look friendly in the process." [USGENWEB-ALL, 2 Aug 2000]
"This is never-ending lies on your part and I sick of the ignorance, you
are all so jealous that the Archives and the Archives Census Project in
good standing with the USGENWEB and you HAVE BEEN BANNED !!!!!! DE-LINKED
!!!! GIVE IT UP, I will not answer and further emails on this matter."
[to a new Archives volunteer, 2 Aug 2000]
"I refuse to have any association with you or the goons that insist on
bringing the Archives and the ACP down at any costs." [to a fellow ALHN
volunteer, USGENWEB-ALL, 29 Jul 2000]
[Apparently, she can dish it out but not take it.]
Kelly, it turns out, is the Archives Census Project coordinator for IA and
KY and was until recently also involved with the KY ALHN, which she left
in a huff, but only after trying to convince some of her friends over
there to go with her. Anyways, Linda's minions are well-trained in the
art of avoiding a direct question and it looks I won't be getting an
answer to mine. Unless this is it:
"I would rather have no vote than to allow that certain "group" to sway
the elections with extra votes. I will be putting my votes to use to
retain Tim as NC and also to vote for anyone one who supports Tim."
[Kelly Courtney Blizzard, USGENWEB-ALL, 12 Jun 2000; before Tim was an
announced candidate]
===
"There are in fact, four very significant stumbling-blocks in the way of
grasping the truth, which every man however learned, can scarcely allow
anyone to win a clear title to wisdom, namely, the example of weak and
unworthy authority, long standing custom, the unfeeling of the ignorant
crowd, and the hiding of our own ignorance while making a display of our
apparent knowledge."
---Roger Bacon
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-Teresa Lindquist
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Tuesday 8 August 2000:
Teri Pettit notes that it makes no sense to her to table Motion 00-27,
since "Tabling is for motions that for some reason are better dealt with
later, such as when information needs to be gathered." Since Motion 00-27
suggests suspending Linda Lewis while an investigation into her service
mark application continues, "it only makes sense in the present moment."
She suggests that it is better to vote on Motion 00-27 now since the
motion won't be applicable at a later date.
Voting on the motion to table Motion 00-27 continues. Thus far 9 Board
members have voted "yes" and 5 have voted "no".
===
Election News: The following announcement was released yesterday by Roger
Swafford, Chair of the Election Committee:
"The polls for the NC runoff election will be open from 0001 CDT 9 August
through 2359 CDT 22 August. The ballot is located at
http://elsi123.august.net/~usgenweb/vote-nc2.html All members who received
a Voter ID for the regular election may vote, including those who did not
vote in the regular election."
The April 1 cutoff date still applies; if you have lost or deleted your
Voter ID you will need to write to your EC representative to obtain it.
Our Name In Lights Corner: We hear the USGenWeb Project website was
mentioned yesterday on a Portland, OR television show called AM Northwest
on KATU TV. Here's a report from a viewer: "Caught this program this
morning--only lasted about 5 minutes or so. She featured the
familysearch.com site first because the LDS were sort of the "originators"
of genealogical research. Mentioned 2 other sites I wasn't familiar with
(ngsgenealogy.org & onlinegenealogy.com), Rootsweb actually was 3rd, and
she showed some of the "beginners lessons" that Rootsweb features.
Ancestry.com was also touched on, and last but not least--USGenWeb. Even
though we were mentioned last, she said we were the first site brought up
by her search engine (don't know which one that was) when she typed in
"genealogy."
Incognito Corner: We hear that Mary Ann Hetrick, Kelly Courtney Blizzard
and Ed Black [all members of the Archives Census Project] have been
showing up under assumed names in the ALHN IRC chat rooms. Mary Ann
apparently plays a rather unconvincing newbie and fancies the name Irene.
===
Today's quote was sent in by a reader:
"No pleasure is comparable to the standing upon the vantage-ground of
truth."
---Francis Bacon
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-Teresa Lindquist
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:05:15 -0400 (EDT)
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Wednesday 9 August 2000-Thursday 10 August 2000:
Voting concludes on the motion to table Motion 00-27, with 9 Board members
voting "yes" and six voting "no." Tim Stowell declares the motion passed.
Tim notifies the list that he's subbed newly elected Board members Ellen
Pack and Richard Harrison to "the various lists," "so that they can get a
feel for the Board before their actual terms start." Ken Short is already
subbed. New members will be allowed to participate in discussions prior
to September 1, when their terms start, but they will not be allowed to
vote on motions.
===
Plausible Denial Corner: Archives Asst. Co-ordinator Joy Fisher is
professing to be shocked, _shocked_ at the anonymous letter currently
being targeted at the Census Project members [reported here a few days
ago]. She has assured Ron that "as far as I have been able to determine"
[note the caveat] the message "did not originate from anyone connected
with the Archives. It probably can from someone with an ax to grind.
Either to embarass you and your project - or to get the Archives blamed
for sending it." [could it be... Satan?] She suggests that Ron and other
recipients of the email contact AOL's abuse address and report it as spam,
and even says she'll write to them too, since "There is no place in
USGenWeb for this kind of behavior."
===
"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to
shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that
siren till she transforms us into beasts. For my part, whatever anguish of
spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the
worst, and to provide for it."
---Patrick Henry
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-Teresa Lindquist
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