Vocabulary
Bid
Ask
Slippage
Market
Limit
Stop
Stop Limit
Trailstop
MOC - Market open cost
LOC - Last price of the day cost
OCO - One Cancels the Other
Day - Good for the day
GTC - Good till Cancelled
In this section you will learn the following:
How to use the buy and sell buttons
Slippage and how it impacts your profits and losses (P/L)
Various orders for buying and selling
Setting conditional orders
Buying and selling shares requires us to find a price that people are willing to sell or buy. As we learned on day one, if someone wants to sell, someone needs to buy and vice versa.
Selecting a Buy Price (Select Buy Button)
In most cases we are attempting to split the difference and select a price right in the middle of the bid/ask
For AAPL we could offer 141.73/141.74 to see if someone is willing to sell us their shares
If you believe the price action is weak, select the Bid price or lower and keep it as a Working Order to get filled. When they find a buyer, the order will process.
If you believe the price action is strong and trending, select the midpoint or Ask to assure that your order gets filled
Hedge funds and experienced traders often use Working Orders to buy or sell their positions at desired price points so they do not need to watch the market all day
Later we will discuss One Cancels the Other (OCO) orders where we can set:
Stop loss - where we exit if price action falls below a support area
Limit - When price action hits a target area and we want to sell our position
Selecting a Sell Price (Select Sell Button)
Sell prices are similar to selecting Buy Prices; just in reverse
Enter your price based on your stock sentiment and see if it fills
Remember, the greater the slippage/spread the more likely it is that we may be starting in the red (loss) when to enter our position or losing value when we exit our position.
Before we start buying stocks we must first understand the impact of volume and liquidity on the bid vs ask price.
Apple (AAPL)
Bid as 141.72, Ask as 141.75, 0.03 difference/slippage
95M average volume/day
Target (TGT)
Below we have Target (TGT) and we see a Bid of 149.70 and Ask of 153.60 with a 3.90 difference/slippage
6.9M average volume/day
While TGT is similar in price, AAPL has 13.7x more shares being traded on a daily basis which offers less slippage on average. That being said, TGT's slippage is normally not this wide, but every penny counts when you consider that it could be money invested into other investments or accruing additional shares.
There are Six (6) Different Order Types
Day - Good for just the day (cancels at market close)
GTC - Good until cancelled (closes when you cancel or fills)
Day (Ext 13h) - Trading day plus premarket and post market)
GTC (Ext 13h) - Same as GTC plus extended trading hours
Day (Ext AM) - Day plus premarket hours
Day (Ext PM) - Day plus post market hours
Here are a few tips and facts when it comes to selecting your order timeframe:
Day is the most common way to enter trades for just the day. At the end of day, all working orders that were not filled are removed.
Good Till Cancelled is used when you want to keep a working order if price were to drop to a level you want to purchase or rise to an area you want to sell or vice versa
Gives you control over your decisions without having to physically sit in front of a computer or access your phone
Will remain as a working order until you cancel the order; avoid having to recreate the order daily
Extended hours gives you the opportunity to trade before or after market hours (see market hours)
Extended hours are only for stock trading; not options
They say that a large amount of money is typically made pre and post market (I rarely trade during extended hours, but it can be beneficial
Enables you to take advantage of entering or exiting a position based on a catalyst (e.g. earnings before or after hours)
Extended hours is not as liquid as normal trading hours; may be more difficult to get your order filled
Ext 13h enables extended trading before and after market hours in the day you open the order
GTC Ext 13h allows you to hold working orders over night that enable trading after and before market hours indefinitely
Ext AM allows you to trade in premarket, Ext PM allows you to trade after market
Anyone can click buy or sell. But, what about when we are busy? How can we protect our positions, profits, or limit losses? In this section, you will learn about the various entry and exit orders:
Advantages
Disadvantages
How to determine the best choice for your strategy
Why we use Stops
To limit our losses on trades that go against us
To be robotic in our exits. This avoids us emotionally pushing back our stops in hopes that it corrects in our favor. In more cases than not, you will find that changing your stops will cost you more money than you make in the long run. You already made your assessment, stick to it, look for another reentry, and later determine whether you were unfortunate or if you entered at the wrong time.
To save us when we are not able to watch the market
To lock in profits or breakeven when a trade goes against us
I would rather be up $100 and have my position close at $0, than be up $100 and then lose $50.
So why is this a love hate relationship?
Stops are the best when unexpected occurrences happen in the market; they allow us to exit our position quickly
You are vulnerable to whipsaws (price dropping quickly and recovering) and being shaken out if your stops are close only to see it rise to your target
You may lose value on the order fills (slippage)
Your limit orders may not fill due to a sharp drop in price and leave you bag holding as price continues to drop lower (see limits)
This is second most popular method for entry and exits. Using market orders is commonly used by intraday traders who are attempting to enter and exit quickly in the market for quick gains or cut losses quick.
Advantages
Market Orders are used to immediately enter and exit a position
Market Orders almost guarantees that your order will fill (very rare to not fill - there would have to be zero people buying or selling at that moment)
Great for getting quick entries and exits on liquid/tight spreads
Disadvantages
If there is a wide spread/slippage, your order could place at the worst possible price
When I trade higher slippage names, it is not uncommon to see you are down instantly
Highly dependent on working orders. Depending on the current buy or sell orders currently working, your order will be filled
On an option I was up $300 according to TOS, the market order could only place a fill at $180
What are Stops?
Stops help us to define our risk; smart traders use some form of stop (stop, stop limit, or trailstop)
When you create a Stop, you are not selling at that price, you are creating a price point where a Market Order will be Activated. The price will be determined by the orders available at Market price.
Setting a stop loss allows us to go about our day to not worry about watching price action
Once a stock's price action goes in our expected direction, we can move our stop loss to breakeven to prevent us from losing money if a stock should reverse
As price continues in our direction, we can move our stop below pullbacks or other consolidation areas to lock in profits should price reverse
Advantages
Offers a set it and forget method approach
Activation is triggered when your price is hit; great for setting your exits and defining your risk
Market Orders almost guarantees that your order will fill (very rare to not fill - there would have to be zero people buying or selling at that moment)
Great for getting quick entries and exits on liquid/tight spreads
Disadvantages
Same as Market Order
What is a Stop Limit?
A Stop Limit is similar to a Stop with the exception that you can set a limit on the price that you are willing to sell your position
For a Stop Limit we will set two different amounts: Activation Price and the Price we are willing to sell as low as
If we set a Stop Limit with an activation of $100 and a limit of $98, once price drops to $100, it will attempt to fill your order between $100 and $98.
If you have 100's of shares, they could fill all at the same price or at various prices depending on working orders
Advantages
Great for predetermining your max loss on a trade
Controlled loss versus setting a Market Order which could have our risk increased due to slippage or price action
This can help us against whipsaws that has a price dip quickly and recover. While we will still be shaken out of our position, it will close within our activation price and limit.
Disadvantages
If price drops quickly your order may not find someone to buy your position leaving you in a falling position and no early exit
If you have EXT, orders during pre and post market are subject to availability and are not as liquid
Securities with a high slippage can often skip over your limit in a quick drop missing your limit and leaving you in your position
Market Open Cost
Same as Market, but the order will execute at market open
This can be beneficial if you are set on a direction and resistance/support level
This can work against you if at opening there is a whipsaw that triggers your stop loss only to see it reverse later
This can be used with investors and traders who want to make decisions based on the daily chart
Last Price of the Day Cost
Your price will fill at the closing price of the day
This is beneficial for people who are trading on daily candles or like price action at the end of day to enter a position
Some people may use this feature prior to earnings reports to lock in closing price in hopes of seeing a big move from the report
Disadvantages
Market Open can be one of the most volatile times of the day and you could enter at a higher price than expected
Limits allow us to set a price that we are willing to purchase or sell a security. This can done at anytime using Day or GTC with or without extended hours for you to target specific entry and exits. Unless your order is able to fill at the specified price, it will sit in waiting. This is one of the most popular or used order entries and exits.
Limit Entries
Advantages
Enables you to target a key price to enter a position
Can be set for the Day or GTC to keep your target open
Will open on your price or better
Disadvantages
Depending on liquidity, some of your order may not fill if it cannot get the specified price or better
Limit Exits - Similar to a Stop Limit, but the Activation and Limit are the same price
Advantages
Set it an forget it
Enables you to sell your position as soon as it hits your target to assure profits
Takes out the guesswork of exiting or holding your position
Disadvantages
May limit future rise in position if sold at limit; you can always set multiple limits to sell at various points
Depending on liquidity, some of your order may not fill if it cannot get the specified price or better
OCO - One Cancels the Other is a great way to determine your risk and your reward at one time. The order will trigger based on whichever order hits first (your stop or your limit). This is a great tool for busy people who are not able to watch their positions but want to limit their losses and take profits while away from the computer. This is also a great tool for those who manage multiple positions at once.
Advantages
Great way to be robotic about your exits and at profit taking points
Disadvantages
May miss out on additional profits if price surges past your target
How to create your Stock Orders
Market Order (to buy in )
OCO Bracket
Set your Stop
Set your Target
Similar to other stops, Trailstops offer the ability to set it and forget it, but offers a flexible exit based
A sell trailing stop order sets the stop price at a fixed amount below the new market price with an attached "trailing" amount.
As the market price rises, the stop price rises by the trail amount, but if the stock price falls, the stop loss price doesn't change, and a market order is submitted when the stop price is hit.
Example - Price $50, you set a $10 Trailstop GTC
Scenario 1 - price drops to $40, your trailstop is activated and a market order will be opened
Scenario 2 - price rises to $55, your trailstop of $10 will now create a new activation price of $45
Scenario 3 - price rises to $60, your new trailstop of $50, price drops to $51 and rises to $75 (activation is now $65)
Advantages
Trailing stop moves with price action upward
Allows you to lock in higher profits as price continues to rise
Enables you to set and forget
Disadvantages
Works off of dollar amount trailing stop and not based on resistance and support
Uses a market order that could fill at any price once your activation hits (trailing stop does not guarantee you the trailing price)
How to Select your Trailstop
15-25% of your stock price to allow for pullbacks ($100 x 15%, 20%, 25% = $15, $20, $25 trailstop)
Another method uses the stocks Average True Range (ATR) as your trail amount
Remember, all stocks have an ebb and flow (people sell to take profit and new buyers enter)
Personal Thoughts
Great for highly liquid stocks to avoid slippage; though in fast moving rises and falls there can be slippage
Can be disastrous with wide spreads as market orders are subject to working orders available
Potentially useful with intraday trading on quick moving stocks so you do not need to move your stop
Can be difficult to use with Options as price change can occur from both dollar movements and volatility