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Pressures and Velocities

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It would appear that during the early smokeless powder transition years, there was some real fuss and confusion between the low-powered rifle shooters and the high-powered rifle shooters....very much the same as today. There was certainly talk about the powders, velocities and pressures to be used, as well as the use of the Special Steel Barrels.


During this time there was grandpa's black powder cartridges, the son's new smokeless powder replacements and the grandkids new fangled high-powered Winchester 30-30 and the Savage 303! In between the fuss of those two, were the "middle of the roaders"...black powder cartridges that were now offered with smokeless... and the confusion began!


Much talk about all of this in the old 1899 through 1920's magazines, books, articles...especially about burning out the bores...you know the spill! From what can be found, the two most popular mentioned cartridges for this argument were the 32-40 and 38-55 cartridges...and for good reason. Not only was the 38-55 loaded with black powder, it was also loaded with low-pressure smokeless and high-pressure smokeless powders....thus the confusion was real...even back then.


The 38-55 loaded with black powder could be used in any barrel. The Low-Pressure, "bulk for bulk" smokeless powder 38-55 loads could also be used in the black powder barrels. The reason was the "bulk for bulk" low-pressure powders burned cooler and the velocities slower than the high-pressured powders, thus safe (or at least "Safer") for the soft steel barrels. The problem began when folks tried to use the high-pressure "dense" powders (30 cal smokeless powders like WA30 or Dupont 30 cal). The heat generated would certainly burn the riffling over time.....or could blow the chamber or barrel of the softer steel types.. Some say 3,000 rounds is what it took to burn out the bore, but even then, diminishing only mere inches per groups. Nevertheless, eventually the hotter burning powders would certainly cause the rifling to wear away and even powders like Sharpshooter were still corrosive on the bores of the softer steel over time.


Winchester used the low-pressure cooler burning powders in most of those types of cartridges, even the .44-40 W.H.V. was labeled as a "Low-Pressure" load although it produced between 18,000cup and 22,000cup (Winchester claimed 18,000cup service pressure in 1917). This "low-pressure" designation was not a reference of those particular loads being safe for all arms, contrary, Winchester warned against using such loads in the Winchester 73' and revolvers. Again, however, the "Sharpshooter" powder used was still corrosive to the bore. The reason for the low-pressure call-out was to describe, in comparison, to the newer high-pressure cartridges on the market. The 30-40 Krag and .303 Savage at the time were the high-pressure beasts. It was said that the 32-40 and 38-55 were somewhat next in line, from being a black powder cartridge, being able to morph into the high-pressure, high-power cartridge line of ammunition. And of course, lets not forget the 30-30.


In 1900, A. H. Stillwell speaks of the 30-30, 45-70, and the 38-55 on using such new smokeless powders. He also speaks of using high-pressure powder and splitting the barrels, rather than using the correct low-pressure smokeless powders for those weaker arms. He then follows up and says; “Everything considered, a black powder gun with low-pressure smokeless is good enough for me.”


Winchester boasted on the use of THEIR MAKE of cartridges being safe for the 35-55 soft steel barrels... and now you know the reason why!

"Special Steel Barrels"


There has been much debate over the past many years about using smokeless powder in soft steel, black-powder barrels. Even early on, shortly after the introduction of smokeless powders, such concerns were illustrated in the writings found in magazines and books. It would appear, however, that the concerns back then were slightly different than today. Most seemed concerned about damaging the bore rather than blowing the barrels.


“Special Steel” barrels being offered at the time were not used for low pressure cartridges such as the 44-40’s normal loads for the Winchester Model 73’ nor even for the 44-40 W.H.V. loads for the Winchester Model 92’. This has been the case with all “Low-Pressure” designated cartridges of yesteryear.

This early 1895 era red label smokeless powder 44 cal. (44-40) cartridge was manufactured especially for the Winchester Model 73’ rifle’s soft steel barrels using such low-pressure smokeless powders, namely Dupont's No. 2 "Bulk for Bulk" rifle powder.

This Model 73’s barrel obviously gave out well before the action. Would appear the barrel was much weaker than the action for whatever reason.

Aside from the Model 94’era 30-30 barrels, the lack of understanding really seems to get popular in the old article publications between 1899 to 1920 magazines and books, with the 32-40 and 38-55 variant cartridges and rifles. Seldom seen was a concern with blowing up a black powder barrel when using low-pressure smokeless loads. The concern was wearing out the bore with jacketed (full patch) bullets using the corrosive line of non "bulk for bulk" powders. However, do not confuse this with shooting a dangerously high pressure load, unsafe for a particular firearm with the more dense, hotter burning smokeless powders.

The transition from low-pressure to high-pressure and low-velocity to high-velocity is where the talk concentrated about Special Steel barrels, namely the 38-55 black powder barrels and high-power smokeless load barrels.

Excerpts from the following article shows such concerns of which we hear even today. However, today the concerns are more about the barrel blowing up than back then. 


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1899

Recreation Magazine, Vol 11

page 298 - Questions & Answers

page 458 - More About Smokeless Powder


One of the first examples of readers/shooters asking smokeless powder questions comes from this magazine.


Will the rifling of a Winchester .38-55 (common barrel) be injured by the use of a smokeless powder cartridge, with soft point jacketed bullet?

I referred this inquiry to the Winchester Repeating Arms Co, and they reply:

Our 38-55 rifle will not be injured when 38-55 smokeless cartridges of our make are used. The bullet will not harm the rifling. Smokeless powder is more difficult to clean than black. Where smokeless powder cartridges are made to take the place of black powder cartridges in guns which were intended for black powder, such smokeless powder is used as will give the same pressures and same velocities as were obtained with black powder in the black powder cartridges intended for the gun originally. We do the best we can to have the combination give the same velocity as before, which it would be difficult to get same accuracy.


The Winchester manufacturing company reassures the shooter that all is fine with shooting such appropriate low-pressure loads in black powder arms.


Moving on up into the year 1900, more questions and answers can be seen in articles. This next full-page “A Batch of Suggestions” article by H. A. Stillwell is a must read…



1900

Recreation Magazine, Vol 13

A BATCH OF SUGGESTIONS

Page 138


In this article, Stillwell speaks of the 30-30, 45-70, and the 38-55 on using such new smokeless powders. He also speaks of using high-pressure and splitting the barrels, rather than using the low-pressure smokeless powders.


He then states that “Everything considered, a black powder gun with low-pressure smokeless is good enough for me.”


It would appear that by 1902, the start of new terms and trying to understand the definitions for what they mean. If you recall, black powder was called gunpowder, but now with smokeless, the two were to be divide into black powder and smokeless powder. 


To continue, this new smokeless powder is now getting separated, sliced and divided up for a better understanding of what is being used in what arms and why. By now the low-pressure, low-velocity shooters are becoming the new “peasants'', much the same today. If you shoot less than 2,000fps, you are the dirt of the earth.

1902

Western Field 

The Sportsman’s Magazine of the West · Volume 1 

This two-page article reveals more information about moving on up from the slow cartridges to the more high-powered cartridges.


“Anything in the way of a bullet moving less than 2,000 feet per second of time, must now, according to the dictum of these cal-low authorities, be considered not only obsolete but offensively objectionable.” 


Then the author continues to explain.

“And yet, with high assurance notwithstanding, right here enters an element of danger to which I desire to call especially attention.” Shortly afterwards, he discusses the 32-40 and 38-55 high-pressure vs low-pressure smokeless loads and different arms manufactured for them, which covers a full-page explanation.


Not only was this nearly ten years after the introduction of smokeless powder, it was also the beginning of the new “High Velocity” fad that, as well as smokeless powder itself, many misunderstand even today.

The "Bulk for Bulk" powders, Dupont No. 2 in the photo...whiteish in color, was a low-pressure powder and could be used in the softer steel barrels, even when used in the 38-55. While all 94' 30-30's had smokeless barrels, not all 38-55's had the special steel barrels,. No 44-40 ever used special steel barrels, even the High Velocity loads due to their velocity being less than 1,700fps and pressures being less than at least 30,000 lbs.

Here are examples of misunderstanding what is safe, and what is not safe for your particular black powder firearm. 

By 1905, Smokeless Powders were divided in two classes, low and high pressure. The first named being mostly used in old black powder cartridges, the latter for cartridges of the military and "high power" hunting types. Aside from black powder, most folks just getting over the fact that the new smokeless powder was also divided into two classes, “bulk for bulk” (Dupont No.2 types) and “dense” (Laflin & Rand .30-cal. types), both equaling the strength of a black powder charge but one being "bulk for bulk", and one being much less than bulk…. but yet both are safe for black powder firearms. Although both were safe for the soft steel barrels, the dense powders like Sharpshooter and Lightning were a bit corrosive.

Generally, for rifles, anything larger than .32 cal. was basically a bulk for bulk while anything smaller than a .32 cal. was a less bulk for bulk, or what was called “dense”. Aside from shooting jacketed bullets and large quantities of smokeless shots fired in the soft steel barrels, smokeless powder was plenty safe for use in black powder arms. The concerns below involve high pressure vs low pressure and the confusion thereof. Thus, by early 1900’s definitions, we must divide these pressures into at least two groups.


The division of smokeless powder could be divided into the following two classes.


Just because a particular load may say “low pressure” doesn’t mean it is safe for the weaker barrels, weaker manufactured arms…but at the same time, smokeless powder itself is not unsafe to use in soft steel black powder barrels either.


Further down the pages we find this High Velocity/Low Pressure data while speaking about special sights…


“These cartridges are especially designed for use in rifles originally built to use black powder only.” 

This image shows the Low-Pressure call-out, but what can not be seen is that the side label warns not to be used in pistols or the Winchester Model 73’. 

Although this is a low-pressure loading for this cartridge, it still produces 18,000cup or higher which could eventually spell disaster for those said weaker arms. 

The powder used in this loading was Dupont "Sharpshooter", originally introduced by Laflin & Rand in 1897...by Dupont from 1902 and eventually Hercules from 1914 to 1948.

Looking much like "Sharpshooter", was "Lightning" powder. This powder granular looked the same as Sharpshooter but was thinner, made for 30 cal cartridges. Early on this powder was not used for the 44-40, but by the mid 1930's...19gr of Lightning was used by handloaders for the 44-40 for normal 1,220fps loads and a higher charge of 24.2gr for 1,555fps @ only 14,000cup, and such data can be seen in Sharpe's manuals.

Meanwhile, handloaders used 14gr of Sharpshooter in the 44-40 for normal loads of 1,260fps. However,  my tests of 15gr of Sharpshooter yielded  1,222fps, also slower than the 1,300fps advertised.

This powder example from "Texas by God" over on the Cast Boolet forum. Said to have been removed from 32-40 Remington-UMC  cartridges. He reported that they made the worst groups he ever shot. Texas, if you see this....I'd sure like a powder sample for display!!

With that said, right there is why we need to understand what is meant between High-Pressure vs Low-Pressure, regardless of high velocity or low velocity….as well as…the reason for the switch from soft steel to special steel.


Also, keep in mind that even though the above 1902 information is nearly ten years into using smokeless powder era, the High-Velocity/Low-Pressure is another new Nomenclature!



1903

Western Field

The Sportsman's Magazine of the West · Volume 2


This 1903 article introduces the new High Velocity cartridges by Winchester for the Model 92’ and Model 86’. Noted is the part about…” A feature of all the high velocity cartridges is that they can be used by persons who dislike the high-power small caliber cartridges on account of their great range.”



1904

 Western Field

The Sportsman’s Magazine of the West · Volume 4


“SOME NEW MARLIN DEPARTURES.


Interesting announcement comes from The Marlin Fire Arms Co., New Haven, Conn. concerning a new line of goods the company is marketing this season, which will attract wide attention among a large class of sportsmen and lovers of the rifle.


The company is now arranging a line of their famous repeating rifles, Model 1893, to be known among the trade Grade “B”. These rifles will be in every respect the same as the regular Model 1893 with the exception that the barrels will be made of the highest obtainable grade of soft gun barrel steel instead of their “Special Smokeless Steel”. The intention is to meet the large demand for a high-class, carefully made arm on the part of many shooters who are not sufficiently interested in the smokeless steel barrels to pay for the extra cost. The new line is, of course, not intended for high power smokeless ammunition and its use in this grade is not advised by the makers: only black powder ammunition and equivalent loads such as low power smokeless should be used. The 32-40 and 38-55 sizes only will be made in this grade.


The line will consist of the carbine with 15-inch round barrel weighing 6 1/4 pounds and carrying five shots, or with 20-inch round barrel weighing 6 3/4 pounds and carrying seven shots. With the regular round barrels in 26-inch to 32-inch lengths the rifle may be had weighing 7 to 7 3/4 pounds. Octagon barrels are furnished 26-inches to 32-inches long the rifles weighing 7 1/2 pounds to 8 1/2 pounds. These rifles can be furnished in short half or full magazine. They accommodate a wide range of cartridges and all the popular ammunition with the exception noted above regarding high power smokeless powder.”



1906 

Outdoor Life, Volume 17


Mr. Whelen regarding manufacturing costs… (I love the 44-40 remark by Winchester).

This article covers some explanation of the extra cost of the newer high-power arms and cartridges. It also mentions that the 44-40 is “sold in immense quantities and they had machines running upon it all the time”.



1920

The Outdoorsman's Handbook

The Accuracy of Hunting Rifles

…again from your favorite Mr. Townsend Whelen.


First I’d like to touch on what was I found to be expected accuracy from some of these rifles...


For the past several years, through my experiences, I began to settle on ten shot groups with the 44-40. I felt it better tells the story of true accuracy rather than the typical three shot groups popular today. I also settled on certain groups being about the best of the best for this cartridge at different ranges.


Recently I came across the following vintage 1920’s information from Whelen that is somewhat the same among the groups achieved at the distances used.

I came up with my consistent best which would be 4″ at 25 yards with a revolver, (scoped) 3.5″ at 100 yards with a rifle, 9″ at 200 yards and 29 of 37 shots inside 14″ at nearly 300 yards. Doc Pardee also shared his 1873 results of about 4.16" 40 shout group at 110 yards with open sights.


My results seem to be fairly consistent with this 1920 information. I thought some of these other cartridges may be of interest to some of you.My targets can be seen over in the targets section.


Townsand Whelen also mentioned the use of a scope for some...but I have no idea which ones.


"In a number of cases a telescope sight was used to make certain of the aim and in the others an English orthoptic was used with open sights."


            CLASS A

2 INCHES AT 100 YARDS

4 INCHES AT 200 YARDS

 

280 Ross 

30 cal Model 1906 

30-40 Krag and Winchester 

30 cal Model 1903 

256 Mannlicher Schoenauer 

25-35 WCF (in single shot)

               CLASS B 

2 1/2 INCHES AT 100 YARDS 

6 INCHES AT 200 YARDS 


7 mm Mauser 

8 mm Mauser 

32 Ideal 

303 British

303 Savage 

25-35 Rem Auto (*)

25-35 Marlin 

25-30 WCF Low pressure smokeless 

25-20 Single Shot 

25-21 Stevens 

25-25 Stevens 

28-30 Stevens 

22 Long Rifle (in target rifle) 

            CLASS C 

3 INCHES AT 100 YARDS 

8 INCHES AT 200 YARDS 


30-30 WCF 

35 Rem Auto 

35 WCF 405 WCF 

45-70 Black and Smokeless 

32-40 Low pressure smokeless 

33 WCF 

32 Winchester Self Loading 

32-20 

25 Rimfire 

38-55 

22-15 Stevens 

                 CLASS D 

3 1/2 INCHES AT 100 YARDS 

12 INCHES AT 200 YARDS


32 Win Special 

351 Win Self Loading 

351 Self Loading 

32 Rem Auto (*)

45-70 

45 90 HV (1) 

25-20 HV and Black powder 

32-20 HV (1) 

38 WCF (1) 

44 WCF (1) 

401 Win Self Loading (2)

(1) Over 200 yards grouping is irregular 

(2) Over 150 yards grouping is irregular Many black powder rifles listed in 

(*) Rem Auto cartridges will show equal accuracy in Remington or Stevens rifles. Classes B and C will rank in Class A when used with hand loaded ammunition loaded by an expert 


In General - 1895 Smokeless Cartridges, Popularity




By 1905, Smokeless Powders were divided in two classes, low and high pressure. The first named being mostly used in old black powder cartridges the latter for cartridges of the military type. 


     a. Low Pressure - maybe less than 30,000 lbs. "Bulk for Bulk" powders and some "Bulky" dense powders

     b. High Pressure - greater than at least 30,000 lbs. slower burning rifle powders, WA-30, Lightning, .30-Cal smokeless


Sporting Smokeless Powders were also divided into two general classes ~ "Nitrocellulose Industry" by Edward Chauncey Worden, 1911



By 1918, Townsand Whelen noted some nomenclatures.


W.A. and Lightning powders contained about 25 per cent and Sharpshooter and Infallible about 38 per cent nitroglycerine. The series of rifle powders now put out by the Dupont Company such as Military No. 10, Military No. 20, and Military No. 21, contain no nitroglycerine. The presence of nitroglycerine enables us to obtain high velocities with minimum chamber pressures, but the heat of the gases causes serious erosion in the barrels if used at pressures above 35,000 to 40,000 pounds per square inch. ~Outdoor Life, April 1915 

Powder or Cartridge - Which Came First?

Evolution and Necessity

Other By: R.H. VanDenburg, Jr. | April, 23

LINK to full article

The below excerpt somewhat shows a lineage from the High-Powered 1894 30-40 Krag through the advent of our greater high-powered hunting cartridge, the 30-06...and the beginning of the rest of the story of our High-Powered cartridges and their powders!

...The W.A. [W.A. .30-Cal.] powder that was used in the early military of the .30-06 [starting with the 30-40 Krag in 1894] gave way to a single-base powder, successively known as DuPont 1909 Military, DuPont Military #20 and Government Pyro .30 Caliber DG. It served as our service .30-06 powder through World War I and was standardized as a canister powder under the name DuPont MR 20. The MR series of DuPont powders was replaced by an early IMR series, which included such powders as MR 13, 15, 16, 17 and others. Technological improvements continued, and by 1935 DuPont had introduced an improved IMR series that contained powders familiar to us today: IMR-4227, 4198, 3031, 4064 and 4320. IMR-4895, 4350, 4831 and 7828 were still to come. As was often the case, many of these powders were developed to meet some military need but were found to exhibit great versatility across the cartridge spectrum. Of course, as new and better powders were developed, the civilian market expanded its cartridge offerings....