Two Peas In A Pod

Winchester's 44 W.C.F. and Marlin's 44-40

Two Peas In A Pod 

My 44-40 Black Powder Journey

by John Kort

December 20, 2014

I first began my .44-40 black powder journey back in 1999. Just prior to that, I had obtained some early .44-40 black powder factory W.R.A. CO. head stamped cartridges for study. Dissecting them, I found that they contained a pure lead 200 gr. bullet with two shallow grease grooves. The 40 gr. FFG charge was compressed an average of about .20”.

In 1875, to give its readers some idea of what their .44 W.C.F. (44-40) black powder factory ammunition was capable of in their then new 1873 rifle, Winchester featured a letter they received from a E.H. Pardee, M.D. of San Francisco, CA 

“It affords me much pleasure to communicate to you the result of 30 consecutive shots at a distance of 110 yards with one of the improved Winchester rifles (1873). The firing was done without wiping, which proves the Winchester to be steady in her performance…..”

Doc Pardee's 110 yard, 30 shot group in a 4" circle.

Testing some original 44 W.C.F. Black Powder Cartridges. The dead primers were replaced and the five rounds averaged 1,320 f.p.s. No loss of ballistic performance in 100+ years of storage. 

Today, Lyman’s 427098 mold is a close replication of the original bullet and bullets from it typically measure around .427” - .428” diameter depending on the alloy. Most .44-40 rifles made currently usually have a groove diameter of .429” with some barrels as large as .432”. I did find that if undersized bullets are soft enough (no harder than 50/1) they will bump up and give accurate shooting.

However, it is better to have a bullet that is at least .001” over groove diameter if possible.. That is what a good friend of mine who goes by the handle “Fairshake” did several years ago when he contacted Accurate Molds to have them produce a 427098 clone mold, which, could be purchased to produce bullets in a specific diameter to fit an individual rifle’s specifications. In addition, the lube grooves would be square bottomed like the original factory bullets but with a bit more lube capacity.

I began my journey with the Lyman mold. Bullets were lubed with SPG and loaded over Goex FFG powder. All was well for about 10 rounds but accuracy began to degrade rapidly shortly thereafter as a hard ring of fouling built up from the muzzle back into the barrel. I came to the conclusion that, based on Doc Pardee’s excellent results, the early b.p.’s must have been of better quality than the Goex powder I was using. 


SWISS B.P.

I had read about Swiss b.p. made in Switzerland that was said to be a close replication of the early b.p.’s, so I ordered some. What a difference! Now I was able to shoot 50+ rounds with no cleaning with accuracy being maintained throughout. I found that with bullets from the Accurate 427098 clone (43-210B) pioneered by “Fairshake” over Swiss FFG powder, the accuracy and performance of the original factory b.p. cartridges could be replicated.


GOEX B.P.

But what about those who wanted to use a b.p. made in the U.S.? Back in 2002, a fellow with the handle PRS (Pigeon Roost Slim) had been working with the .45 Colt to develop a bullet that would carry enough lube to keep the more fouling Goex powder from fouling out in repeated shots. Lee made the mold to his specifications and it has worked very well. Following that, a fellow with the handle “Mav Dutchman” had Lee make a similar mold for the .44-40. 

“MAV D” (Big Lube) - I purchased some of the “Mav D” bullets from the supplier listed below and, sure enough, I could fire many shots in a row with accuracy being maintained throughout.

Accurate 43-215C - Being a traditionalist, I decided that I wanted a bullet that would exactly match the original .44-40 bullet nose profile and would carry enough lube for the 24” trip many times accurately using standard Goex black powder. In addition, I had found that the original nose profile is best for down range accuracy (100+ yards) which is one of the things I like to do.

To start with, I used the 427098 and machined away the middle driving band a bit at a time, thus adding a bit more lube capacity until testing indicated that I had reached the IDEAL lube capacity for the task at hand.. It is now the 43-215C made by Accurate Molds. Thankfully, it runs very well with Goex and continues to produce very good down range accuracy (100+ yards) for many rounds with no foul out. 

BULLET SUPPLIERS

1.) “Mav D” (Big Lube) - http://www.whyteleatherworks.com/BigLube.html 

2.) 43-210B (427098 clone) Not shown on Mark's website but he offers it. Contact for information; www.whyteleatherworks.com

427098 - http://www.buffaloarms.com/Hand_Cast_Bullets_it-157239.aspx?CAT=4135-

Black Dawge - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/137773/goex-black-dawge-bullets-44-caliber-430-diameter-205-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-100?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Accurate 43-215C –  http://www.whyteleatherworks.com/BigLube.html 

BLACK POWDERS > GROUP A 

Works best with the Mav D (Big Lube) or the 43-215C bullets


BLACK POWDER > GROUP B

KIK – with the 427098 / 43-210B, accuracy was maintained for about 2X longer than Goex or about 20 rounds after which accuracy deteriorated as the black ring of fouling was building in the 24” barrel at the muzzle inward. .


BLACK POWDERS > GROUP C

Work very well with the original 2 lube grooved bullet … 427098 / 43-210B

(Testing the newer introduced Olde Enysford powder last year, I found that it worked as well as Swiss producing very good continuous accuracy for many shots.) 


BLACK POWDER SUPPLIERS (will ship as little as 5#)

LOADING .44-40 BLACK POWER CARTRIDGES 

I typically use a Lyman 55 powder measure which has markings for b.p. and I mostly Ioad with the measure set at the “40” setting. Because the densities of different black powders vary, the actual weight varies as the below pic indicates. 

I dump the powder charge slowly into the case with the pan held 4-5” above the powder funnel to settle it. (Some folks use a drop tube but I get pretty much the same results by the method I described.)

Another way to settle the powder would be to drop a charge into a case then tap the side of the case with the nose of the bullet before seating it. One can see the powder level recede while doing this.

Lesser powder charges can certainly be used as long as the powder is compressed. I like a minimum of .10”. Some folks use the Lee 2.2 CC scoop for their .44-40 b.p. loads. It holds 32.5 grs. by weight of Goex FFG. Compression is .10” on a settled charge (Winchester or Starline cases) at a seating depth of .36”. 

And still another way is to drop the charges into 50 cases in a loading block.....

POWDER COMPRESSION

To determine the amount of power compression a particular load requires, I use a fired case where the bullet is a slip fit in the case neck. First determine the o.a.l. of your loaded cartridge. Then after placing the powder charge into the fired case (pouring it in slowly to settle it) place the bullet into the case neck, push it down on the powder and measure the o.a.l. The compression is the difference between that length and the final loaded cartridge.

In the loading process, if your bullet is at least 10-12 BHN hardness, it can be used to compress the powder charge when seated. If less than 10 BHN, it would be better to pre compress the powder before seating the bullet……depending on the amount of compression and the actual hardness of the bullet. Pre compressing the powder can be done with the neck expander, a compression die, or a slightly smaller caliber jacketed bullet like a 10MM. 

Velocities recorded with different black powders loaded at the “40” setting – Lyman 55 measure. Because of the different densities, the actual weights of the various powders do vary, but by using the volume measure, the compression is the same for all.. 

Case – R-P .44-40 / Primer – CCI 300 

Bullet – 210 gr. 427098 / 43-210B 

With Swiss FFG and Olde Enysford, I found that the “36” setting produced velocities comparable with the original 44-40 b.p. cartridge.  

ACCURACY

So just how accurate can a well crafted .44-40 black powder cartridge be? Very accurate.

Remember the 30 shot group I mentioned in the beginning fired in 1875? 30 shots under 4” @ 110 yards. Awesome!

Fast forward 135 years or so later at 100 yards…...that performance is still obtainable today ……. 

Note: Bullet was actually the 43-210B

And a followup 10 shot group... 

For the accuracy testing, I had a scope mounted on the .44-40 Marlin Cowboy (24”) rifle since it needed to be about the true accuracy of the cartridge rather than a test of how well I can see iron sights with my aging eyes. 

In the late 1800’s Winchester claimed that it’s .44 W.C.F. (.44-40) was adequate for deer and bear out to 300 yards.

Well, I have no desire to try that but I do love to shoot at steel silhouettes out a ways…. 

300 meters (327 yards) on the steel javelina