Mar 2016

Bluewater Bulletin

Bluewater Model Engineering Society Sarnia, Ontario

Vol. 31 No.6 March 2016 Editor John Lovegrove

Our next Meeting will be on

Monday April 11th, 2016 @ 7:30 pm

Northern Collegiate Machine Shop (Rm. 148), Indian Road, Sarnia.

The March Meeting

Our Treasurer was present and gave his report; as usual we are still solvent. However, Larry also stated that he wishes to give up the Treasurer position. So… at the April meeting we need a volunteer for the position (election is guaranteed!)

Bruce Mannerow talked about a laser rust removal system he was looking at. Apparently it removes rust really fast (also paint and probably a few other things as well.) The downside..$$$$$$.

He then brought up the matter of the club logo. Ed Spencer Keith Orr, Kasey Schuilenberg and Stu Brownlow all put forward suggestions and these were discussed. One issue is the need for simplicity because when it is scaled down, smaller details will probably be lost. The various ideas were "kicked around" but there was no conclusion. Perhaps we should look at the ideas again next time and take a vote. (Or maybe we should have a vote first about whether we should be more decisive or not!?)

Another item that came up was Sentry Safes. When Murray Bennell was terminally ill in hospital, his daughter needed to get some documents from the safe but the combination he gave her did not work. There is a procedure for getting the correct combination from Sentry but this is long and tedious. What she did was to just take it to the workshop, knock out the hinge pins and prize the door open with a crow-bar. The message seems to be if you have something really valuable – don’t rely on one of these things.

A model railroading magazine Model Railroad Hobbyist was mentioned. This comes out once per month and has ~300 pages. Have a look: http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/

There also seem to be a lot of You-tube videos that come up via this link (to distract people from getting into their workshops and doing some real model engineering.)

Bruce brought up the issue of British Steel Standards. During my engineering life in the UK (60s – 80s) most people seemed to work with the EN numbers for

Ed Spencer did fill us in on the special left handed metric tap he ordered: The number was $134 (ouch!)

There was some discussion about Napier engines: The Sabre was an H 24 sleeve valve aircraft engine used in the Hawker Tempest and Typhoon. It was a real beast of an engine and quite fantastic when running, unfortunately reliability was a major issue.

The other Napier engine mentioned was the Deltic. This was a Δ configuration opposed piston 2-stroke diesel. The main virtue was that the engine was very compact for the power developed, the main drawback was accessibility for maintenance. They were used for a while in diesel locomotives in the UK.

On a more current note, there was some rumour that Busy Bee is closing. On the web there was an item about the Vancouver store possibly closing but when I called the London store it seems to be business as usual.

No meeting would be complete without a few websites being mentioned. These came from Bruce and the first is from an Australian lady model engineer; Emma Ritson. If you click on the "Home" tab, a video of the KW schools engines Bruce talked about comes up.

https://www.youtube.com/user/emmawatchrepair/vide os?live_view=500&flow=list&sort=dd&view=0

The KW schools engine is a fairly simple steam engine and there was a comment that Tubal Cain also did some very useful, simple engines.

The next is about a Rolls Royce apprentice Mr. Crispin who is building a live steam engine. He seems to produce some really high quality work.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCrispin96/videos

Suburban tools have a lot of videos, mostly about grinding and how they can sell you something, but some are pretty good. This one is about having the equipment they use rebuilt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeGn4hN1Bg

They make the case for rebuilding older, more heavily built machines rather than buying new, less rigid ones.

steel. A lot of the older UK based model designs (including my Sealion) refer to these numbers. This was superseded by the BS series and in the steels reference chart Bruce posted on our website, EN/BS equivalents are given. Apparently the BS series has now been superseded by the BS EN series. From what I can make out this is really to fall in line with some European standards.

I have been involved in various aspects of machine and equipment design over the years and one of the more difficult parts has been knowing what grade of steel is best for a particular application. In the early days, steel manufacturers worked with engineering companies to develop grades that were suited to particular purposes, then, standards institutions tried to formalize this with some kind of numbering system. The reality is that if you have been in a particular area of engineering for some time you settle on a range of grades for different components based on experience and input from metallurgical experts. If you are breaking new ground in equipment or machine design significant homework is required to select the best grades.

Fortunately, in model engineering, because things are fairly non critical, for the most part one can get away with a very limited range of steels. Perhaps what we should do is to have a discussion next time about what people commonly use and I will summarize this in the newsletter

Under the "miscellaneous" heading; Brian Lawson talked about getting 3 large prints of drawings made for $10 at the Commercial Copy Centre in Chatham. I have had large prints made at Huron Blueprinting & Reprographics in Sarnia but my recollection is that the cost was significantly higher.

Someone talked about ultrasonic cleaners; they do a good job cleaning small parts but are normally quite expensive. Apparently, one is now available for ~$40 that is designed to clean dentures. (One does start to think of some unfortunate mix-up scenarios here with items that are in for cleaning.)

and 4 holes in the boss it attaches to, but, to have those on one component angularly displaced by appropriate amounts so that depending on which pair of holes are used, the timing can be set in increments of a ¼ of the tooth angle. (Keeping the math simple, if the wheel had 36 teeth, then the coarse adjustment would provide 100 increments. The arrangement described would provide 2.50 increments.)

Mikes Mastiff

This is a valve and the adjustable tappet arrangement.

Show and Tell

Mike Clark is rolling right along with his 4 cylinder Mastiff. The major parts have now been made and the assembly of components is shown in the picture. The piston rings have yet to be fitted and there is an issue with the valve springs – the ones that came with the kit are too short. There is an interesting system for timing the camshaft: If the gears are fixed to the shafts, the timing can be set approximately by engaging the appropriate teeth on the pinion and wheel. However this does not provide sufficient accuracy. The arrangement used to provide a finer adjustment is to have 4 holes in the large timing gear

Keith Orr has completed a few more components for his Tiny Power 2V-10. Work on this is also progressing very well and we will hopefully see it running soon.

Keith Orr's engine

Don Eastman has been working on the model he is making of the equipment at the Petrolia Discovery. This is a large wooden wheel:

Steam engines are much simpler in the sense that when you have completed the major parts they are more or less ready to run. With a gas engine you still have a carburettor, an ignition system, usually a water cooling system and often a lube system to finish before your creation will spring into life.

John's Sealion

And this is a picture of one of his pictures showing more of what he has made.

Workshop Tips

By coincidence (or maybe mental telepathy) for the last newsletter I had prepared something on threading items in the lathe using a normal die, but there was not space for it without running into an additional page. This time someone raised the same issue, so I will resurrect what I put together earlier:

I have managed to finish a few more parts for my Sealion. Both the connecting rods and pistons have now been machined from solid on the CNC mill. The rods were from 6061 and the pistons from 2024. These were probably the most challenging and interesting parts I have programmed for machining on the mill. I did start with some dummy versions of both to check the programing and make any changes necessary before machining the actual parts.

Mike and I are essentially at the same stage with our engines but mine still requires a train of 4 gears to drive the overhead cam and that is now in the works. The photograph below shows the crankshaft, pistons, wrist pins, connecting rods and head c/w valve gear. I also made a device with a very thin sleeve to help fit the rings on the pistons and a split, ring compressor to facilitate getting the rings to enter the cylinder bores.

Different approaches can be used for externally threading a component in the lathe. Where the best accuracy is required, screw cutting is the only real option because it ensures that the thread is concentric, straight and the correct pitch all along. Unless you have the right form-tool, using a die to take off the last few "thou" and finish the thread usually works quite well. The next best thing is a tailstock die-holder that at least helps get the thread started properly. However, if you don’t have one of these a regular die holder can be used with a little more care. One issue (particularly with the aluminum die cast holders) is that one cannot rely on the back face being parallel relative to the recess that the die fits in. One way around this is to use the die holder the "wrong" way round so that the back face of the actual die is in contact with the tailstock or something suitable mounted in it. This helps ensure that the die remains square to the lathe axis. The other thing that helps get the thread started right is to turn a short starting length close to the root diameter of the thread (the corresponding tapping drill diameter is about right) followed by a 150 (half angle) taper leading up to the full diameter. This approach will result in a thread that is acceptable for most purposes.

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Remaining Meetings this Season 2016

April 11th

May 9th

June 13th

John Lovegrove