June 2015
Bluewater Bulletin
Bluewater Model Engineering Society Sarnia, Ontario
Vol. 30 No.9 June 2015 Editor John Lovegrove
The first meeting of the new season will decided on later, it will be:
either late September or early October 2015
Northern Collegiate Machine Shop (Rm. 148), Indian Road, Sarnia
The June Meeting
Our treasurer was not present so there was no update
on finances (since we have not spent very much we
assume things are still OK.)
Hobbyfest was the first subject of discussion: This
will be on Sunday July 19th in Canatara Park, Sarnia
(the same venue as last year.) The city only allows
us 2 tables and no chairs. We have our own tables
so that is not a problem but for anyone coming;
something different has to happen otherwise many of
these shows will die.
John Sibbick asked whether the club locomotive was
for sale, the decision reached was that it was not.
After Ed Spencer’s request asking if anyone had a 21
mm tap and die, some discussion followed on weird
thread sizes and pitches. (Apparently the 21mm size
is available but at a price, it is certainly not a preferred
metric size.) Anyway; one of the weirdest pitches is
please bring a chair of some kind. I will send out a
that used on 1” – 2” National Pipe Threads, it is 11 ½
reminder about the event closer to the time.
Our summer party was on Thursday, July 2nd.
TPI!! (Why not 12? At least BSP uses 11 TPI for
similar sizes.) Someone raised the point that many
lathes will not screw-cut some of the unusual pitches.
Approximately 20 of us were there and the weather
cooperated. Thanks everyone for coming along.
Bruce Mannerow has ordered some business cards
for the club. Vistaprint turned out to be the cheapest
option.
There was some earlier discussion on the club
scrapbooks put together some time ago. These
contain information about projects club members
were working on. Neil Blackstock has found one of
them and is still looking for the other. Our present
day equivalent is the projects page of the club
website. Stu Brownlow and Nick Jonkman talked
about what they could supply to put on that. (I have
to admit I am remiss myself in not coming through
with some items to go in that section – maybe putting
extracts from “show and tell” would be a start.)
Ed’s request related to a bushing he wanted to re-tap
on a boiler. On that theme Nick Jonkman said that he
had some 6” dia. x ~3/16” wall copper pipe, some
thick copper plate and some stainless steel rod –
presumably all available for sale.
Stu Brownlow talked about the 3½”gauge Stourbridge
Lion he is working on. After a trip to England taking in
a number of museums there he concluded that he
was being too sophisticated in the construction –
particularly of the tender. So he has started over
using techniques more in keeping with those used on
real locomotives of the time.
Going back to a theme of last month’s newsletter;
The subject of shows this summer had its usual
airing. Two of the shows on our list had already been
held the weekend before the meeting and apparently
the one in Paris was very disappointing. It seems that
there is very little to encourage potential exhibitors to
go along: People resent having to pay to exhibit and
in many cases are required to have their own
insurance as well; creating an additional cost. With
fewer exhibits, fewer people will attend and so there
will be a downward spiral. Nick Jonkman had a
formula that he believes works: Allow free admission
to exhibitors and attendees then make your money on
the sales of various kinds to cover costs Certainly
Mike Clarks Mastiff
leaded solder; I have found that it is fairly readily
available in the US, ACE hardware stores have lots of
the solid 50/50 lead/tin variety – made in Mexico!
Show and Tell
Mike Clark has been his usual productive self and
came in with his Mastiff horizontally opposed 4
cylinder engine looking fairly complete from an
external perspective. The main block, cylinder blocks
(c/w liners) and heads are all done. He (just) has the
internals to complete now. He ended up fabricating
the heads because although castings were supplied
in the kit from Hemmingway, the bosses for the head
bolts were too badly out of position for the castings to
be useable.
I have not managed to get very much done on my
Sealion. I did finish most of the turning, hardening
and final grinding operations on the camshaft. After
taking the journals down to ~0.010” above finished
size I case hardened the whole thing. The operation
went OK but significant bending was evident
afterwards. A lot of patience was needed to
straighten it within acceptable limits for final grinding
of the journals. I have also managed to finish turn the
valves and grind the stems to size. They were made
in pairs and still need to be parted off from the
remaining piece of bar-stock left between the heads.
John's Valve gear
The 2015 CNC Workshop (Allen Park MI)
I was hesitant to attend this time but I am pleased that
I did. The main reason for going was to find out more
about Mach4. That objective was mainly achieved but
a few other things of interest emerged:
Firstly it does appear that Mach4 is a significant
improvement over Mach3 and it is being well
accepted in the (lower end?) professional world as
well as that of the hobbyist. The mill version was the
first to be completed but now the lathe version is also
available so I think it is time to try it myself.
The MS Windows operating systems used by Mach3
and 4 has an inherent problem when it comes to
running a control system because normally, all sorts
of processes go on in the background that prevent
things being done properly on a “real time” basis.
However, Art Fenerty found ways around this and put
together Mach3 that enables readily available
Windows based computers to be used for machine
control. Mach4 is a much improved version of this.
Since CNC got started in the hobby world the main
alternative has been to use a control system based on
the Linux operating system. This is an open source
system and does not have the same issues as
Windows when used for real time control. It can be
loaded on to a PC in place of Windows but once that
has been done the machine will no longer run any
Windows applications. This approach has always had
an enthusiastic but relatively small following and the
main CNC control program was EMC.
I had previously regarded Mach3/Windows as the
preferred approach but I am beginning to wonder.
generally credited with this move. (One publication I
have seen actually credits them with inventing the hot
bulb engine.) Their first engine was produced in ~
1897 so they were not far behind Hornsby Akroyd.
A normal gasoline 2 stroke is not very efficient
because part of the fresh gasoline/air charge is lost
through the exhaust (also resulting in significant
hydrocarbon emissions.) In a diesel or hot bulb
engine this is not a problem because only air is lost.
On the plus side the simplicity of the engine results in
mechanical lower losses than a 4 stroke with its
associated valve gear.
Murray Bennell brought along some items to show his
toolmaking skills. He had a screw cut piece of steel
with a double start, left handed acme thread. He also
has double and triple start, left and right handed taps
that he had made to produce some similar,
corresponding female threads.
Murrays tools
Tormach, who are probably the most successful
supplier of CNC machines to the hobby/low end
professional market have gone away from using a
customized Mach3 system to a Linux based system
called “Path Pilot” that they have developed (or have
had developed) for their own use. I asked why and
the reasons were that they really wanted something
based around a (proper) real time operating system
and also that Mach3 was inadequate for their CNC
lathe control (particularly threading.)
From what I can see, EMC has morphed into Linux
CNC and I went to a presentation where this was
discussed. One interesting aspect is that this control
system now supports advanced G code features.
Standard G code is a fairly “dumb” language and
there are no (easy) ways making decisions as a
program is executed (no IF statements etc.) The
newer Linux based system does allow this kind of
thing to be done along with a few other nice features
that would help in the programming approach I use.
The problem of course is knowing how much time it is
worth spending on getter a better CNC set-up as
opposed to getting to working on model engines –
which is really my main hobby.
At this workshop, like some of the previous ones they
had mini mill build sessions where people put
together small CNC mills from a kit of parts. They pay
for the kit, then the mill is theirs. This time they had a
3D printer build as well. I went along to one of the
sessions on 3D printing and I came away quite
impressed. Below is a picture of the machine they
were putting together.
3D Printer
Another good feature (for marine use) was that by just
changing the timing of the fuel injection, the engine
would run equally well in forward or reverse.
Production of hot bulb engines took off in a major way
early in the 20th century and it seems that
(continental) Europe really dominated. In England,
quite a few companies got into making the engines:
Hornsby Akroyd, Crossley, Petter, Allen, Clayton and
Shuttleworth and Gardner were the better known
names but others I have found are Ailsa Craig,
Beardmore, Brooke, Invincible and Robey. I have not
heard of any Canadian manufacturers but in the US;
De La Vergne, Mietz and Weiss, Fairbanks–Morse
and Kahlenberg were names I had come across
previously. Others I have found are Missouri,
Remington, Seattle and Sumner.
In contrast, apparently there were several hundred
manufacturers in continental Europe and about 70 in
Sweden alone. Bolinder is the name most people are
familiar with which is not surprising because at one
time had about 80% of the world market for these
engines. After making some 4 stroke engines initially,
they changed over to 2 strokes, so with their share of
the market, that is the form of engine that was
dominant.
The Kahlenberg
Hot Bulb Engines (part 2)
After the initial invention, probably the next significant
development with these engines was going to the 2
stroke format. Meitz and Weiss in New York are
Before getting into applications, it is worth mentioning
another problem with these engines. It was that they
would not run at very high speed (300- 400 rpm
seems to have been the limit) and the useable range
does not seem to have been very great either. They
were good as stationary engines, driving pumps,
generators and general machinery. They were also
very popular in boats where they could run at a
steady speed. Also, being able to use heavier, safer
fuels and having no electrical ignition system that
would tend to give problems in a damp environment,
were distinct advantages. Their lack of speed
flexibility meant that they were not very suitable for
road vehicles but they were extensively used in farm
tractors.
The De La Vergne and Hornsby Akroyd in last
The Dan
month’s newsletter were both stationary engines, so
is the Mietz and Weiss above. Below is a 15 hp
Bolinder engine in the Stoke Bruerne Canal Museum
in the UK. Bolinder engines were by far the most
popular engines fitted to UK canal boats in the 1910 –
1950 period.
BolinderEngine
This is a 4 stroke with suction inlet valves on top and
the exhaust valves below. (The valve operating gear
is missing from the engine.)
I will get back to some of more technical aspects next
time. Although the simple story usually told is that the
hot bulb engine was replaced by the true diesel, in
many cases it seems that it essentially morphed into a
diesel.
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Meetings Next Season
As a reminder, bookings for the room we use cannot
be made before early September and historically
meetings that month have not been well attended
(people still away on vacation.) I will discuss the
matter with Bruce before making the bookings but the
earliest will be late September, but more probably
early October.
John Lovegrove
Closer to home, this is a Kahlenberg engine made in
Two Rivers WI and is presently in the Coolspring
Power Museum in PA. These engines were used
extensively in vessels on the Great Lakes and had a
reputation for being very nicely made (lots of brass!)
The next engine certainly has a Canadian connection;
it was used for auxiliary propulsion on Amundsen’s
boat the Gjøa, which was the first vessel to
successfully to complete the Northwest Passage in
1903-1906. It was made in Denmark by a company
called Dan and is now in the Oslo Maritime Museum.