dec 2015

Bluewater Bulletin

Bluewater Model Engineering Society Sarnia, Ontario

Vol. 31 No.2 November 2015 Editor John Lovegrove

Our next Meeting will be on

Monday December 14th, 2015 @ 7:30 pm

Northern Collegiate Machine Shop (Rm. 148), Indian Road, Sarnia.

The November Meeting

Show and Tell

Our treasurer was present and gave his report: As usual we are solvent and even more so after he collected our "subs".

Bruce Mannerow talked about additions to our website. In particular he has posted the calculations put together to assist in cutting the bevel gears for his WWI 18 pounder. The guru on gear cutting that Bruce has been following is Ivan Law and his book on the subject is still available:

http://www.amazon.ca/Gears-Gear-Cutting-Ivan-Law/dp/0852429118

This month Tony Koolen took the prize for having most to show. One item was a valve for his traction engine, the body of which is fabricated by silver soldering individual parts together.

Tony's fabricated valve

Peter Esser talked about a visit being planned to the Marine City Museum by his clock repair club. This was scheduled for Tuesday 17th November, driving to Sombra then taking the ferry across as a foot passenger and walking to the museum. He also mentioned the Maritime Days Festival they hold in Marine City, and the Titanic model that has been on display:

http://www.maritimedays.com/#!titanic-exhibit/c1563

Nick Jonkman talked about saw sets: Apparently he has ~112 in his collection but a huge number of different types must have been made because there are something like 1400 early American patents on the subject. (It is hard to believe there are so many ways of slightly bending the teeth on a saw.)

Continuing our frequent theme of miscellaneous trivia; somewhere Bruce had seen that singer Rod Stewart is very much into model trains. (If you "Google" "Rod Stewart Model Trains" several items pop up.)

Brian Lawson talked about RM Restorations who claim to be the leading restorer of classic cars in N. America. They have one place in Lakemoor, IL and another in the Blenheim/Chatham area. What they do is really amazing and Brian talked about one person who specializes in making/restoring dials for classic cars – you know, the ones everyone had before LCD and touch screen displays came along.

Murray Bennell has been trying to correct some bad machining on a locomotive he inherited. Rather than start over machining new connecting rods, Tony has built up the ends of the old rods with a special work hardening material, rather like brazing rod. The small ends can now be re-machined to the correct dimensions.

Murrays connecting rods

Back on the casting theme, Murray lent Tony a special mould to make the heads for lead hammers. A piece of tube to form the handle is clamped between the mould halves and molten lead is poured in, then allowed to solidify. Tony has had a few tries to cast some hammer heads but shrinkage has been a major problem. (The other problem he had was forgetting to plug the end of one tube so that molten lead escaped through it – acting as a hand warmer in the process.)

Murrays hammer mould

His initials are cast in, the pen gives some idea of size and the drilling vise is there for a good reason - ask Kasey and he will confess.

Rick Nickels brought along a 3 in 1 metal forming machine (originally from Princess Auto as I recall.) On the top is a roller system to produce cylinders. At the bottom is a press brake and a shear arrangement. Apparently it will handle up to ~20 gauge steel.

3 in 1 machine

The other item he brought along was the steering chain shaft for his Case traction engine. However, he did have some help with this. Machining grooves in the trial wooden shaft was fairly easy but steel is more difficult. The final cut was carried out with a ½" ball end mill on the CNC mill but a normal ¼" end mill was used for roughing out the grooves. Each groove has 2 different helix angles over its length and an angled, tangential run-out.

Steering chain shaft

Brian Lawson has been working on his Dunkey(?) engine. He still has some uncertainties about the design, particularly the valve porting. He is planning to make a transparent piston out of acrylic material (on the right) to help visualize how it will all work.

Brians Dunkey engine parts

Kasey Schuilenberg brought another of his mini machine tools, made from his own castings, this time a drill press.

Kasseys model drill press

I did manage to get a few more things done on my Sealion. The valve guides were machined from bronze rod (courtesy of Tony’s material stockpile) and the valves are now semi-finished. The head itself was in 2 parts, making it easier to provide the cooling passages needed but the halves have now been (permanently?) fixed together with sealant. The guides were made with a light press fit, helping to align the two parts of the head, then finished reamed in situ.

The Sealion Head parts

Supplier Information

E-mail: nu-way@on.aibn.com

Website: http://nuwaymachinery.com

Phone: (519) 659 7749.

Ed has found Joe Narciso to be very helpful. Their main business seems to be restoring machine tools so they are probably more used to dealing with commercial customers, but cash is OK for small purchases (no credit cards.)

The other piece of information from Ed relates to some iron castings he has had made. The foundry he used was Molten Metallurgy, situated at 20 Lee Street, Paris. So far he has had some small spoked locomotive wheels cast, some cast side frames made for a 7 ¼" gauge locomotive and also some disc wheels cast. They are of excellent finish and machine nicely with carbide. The man to talk to is Ted Guiducci, Ed thinks that his son is the boss but Ted has the know-how and seems to enjoy his work. Just a warning; the job will get done when it can be fitted in – so don’t be in a hurry.

On a similar theme I was looking at the Toronto Society of Model Engineers website, they have a list of suppliers for materials etc. needed for our hobby:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0c21ld2VifGd4OjE4ZDBiNTliYjQ0ZmU3N2U

Some Interesting Links

Neil Blackstock’s daughter Carolyn, who works at the Waterloo Region Museum, recently found an interesting online resource giving information on shipping, railways etc.

This is a series of Marine Engineering magazines:

http://archive.org/details/canadiantradejournals/?and[]=subject:%22Marine%20engineering%22

stationary and mobile applications. Maybe there was "fashion" aspect as well because back then true diesel was regarded as the way to go so the semi-diesel approach was regarded as old technology and just allowed to die.

How about modelling hot bulb engines? Making model engines using fuel injection invariably means pumping or in some way metering tiny amounts of fuel for each cycle. Taking a 40 cc displacement engine (the size of my Wyvern,) when you do the calculations, this theoretically requires an injection pump with ~ 1/16" bore x 1/16" stroke to provide the fuel needed at maximum power. Fortunately, the early type of hot bulb engine does not require the oil to be finely atomized the way a diesel does so injection pressures can be lower and injector design is less critical. On this basis, modelling a hot bulb engine should be less difficult than a true diesel. Looking on the web there is one person in Denmark, Find Hansen, who has managed to construct engines of this kind (a lot of them in fact) and get them to work.

At the meeting Ed Spencer mentioned a supplier in London where he has been able to buy small taps, dies, milling cutters etc. The organization is NU-WAY, address is 2065 Piper Lane, London N5V 3S5. (They are in the same area as Lee Valley at the East end of Oxford Street.)

Back then they had some real industry in Toronto.)

This is one called Power House:

https://archive.org/details/canadiantradejournals?and[]=subject%3A%22Mechanical%20engineering%22

This is on Railways and Shipping:

https://archive.org/details/canadiantradejournals?and[]=Transportation

In looking for information on internal combustion engines I found the following in the same Internet Archives series:

https://archive.org/details/texts?sort=titleSorter&and[]=Oil%20Engines&and[]=subject%3A%22Internal%20combustion%20engines%22

To look at a particular book, double click on the image and a view of the book appears. Scroll down and the download options can be seen. PDF is the usual format so click on this. The book then starts to download (it takes some time,) you can then read through and/or save. (Move the cursor to the bottom right to see the options.)

As I understand it these are all old books where the copyright has expired. If you are interested in old technology it is worth searching around this source of information to see what can be found. Tallking of which……

Hot Bulb Engines

Since starting to collect information out of general interest and to write up something ready to give a seminar at NAMES next year, I have unearthed more and more interesting stuff (at least to me.) Putting all of this in the newsletter would take several more issues and this does not seem appropriate. Therefore I will just cover a few additional points then finish:

Why did hot bulb and semi-diesel engines stop being produced? Clearly the early types with their low efficiency, low power output and the need to use a blowlamp to heat up the bulb for starting were never going to survive very long when more efficient, easier to operate engines became available. However, when the engines had evolved to the semi-diesel stage with glow plugs to provide the initial heated surface for ignition and an electric or air system for starting, many of the drawbacks associated with the earlier engines went away. There was maybe some advantage in efficiency going from the 10:1 compression ratio of a semi diesel to the ~15:1 ratio of a true diesel but the reasons for the eventual transition are likely more subtle. The semi diesel requires a combustion chamber that is not cooled and this significantly complicates the design, particularly on a 4 stroke or valved 2 stroke where the valves have to be accommodated in the head as well as a rather special combustion chamber. Post WW2 there was also enough expertise around to build engines that would stand up to the pressures existing in true diesels and fuel injection/combustion chamber technology had reached a stage where the engines could be used satisfactorily in a wide range of

There was one organization in the UK the Alyn Foundry that did supply castings for a ¼ scale Hornsby Akroyd engine, however the company no longer appears to be in business (pity.) There have been some indications that it will be resurrected (we can but hope.)

Find Hansen's engines

Workshop Tips

I thought that it would be worth starting this section so that members can pass on useful pieces of information and hopefully someone can contribute an item each month.

To start the ball rolling, this is mine: After finishing some machining operations on a component, particularly when using soluble oil as a cutting fluid, it becomes covered with a rather disgusting mess of chips and oily liquid. You can clean it off with Varsol but that stinks in the workshop. What works well is to get a suitable container with very hot water and some dish soap then dunk the component in that and use an old toothbrush etc. to clean off the chips. Follow this with a hot water rinse and blow dry with compressed air. (The latter is particularly important with materials that rust.)

If you "Google" this gentleman’s name several videos can be found showing his engines in operation. One thing that comes over clearly is that the hot bulb needs continuous external heating to keep the engine running. Soon after the burner is removed, the engines stop firing. He only seems to run them under no load conditions so whether the bulb would stay hot enough if the engine were under load, is not clear. Even if you are not particularly interested in hot bulb engines it is worth pulling up the information on him because some of the things he has done are quite amazing – his miniature oil cans and tools for example. However, he also has a "true" diesel that apparently works.

It is impressive how prolific some people can be in their modelling – one can only assume that they spend a lot of time in their shops and don’t have the same list of honey–do jobs that most of us seem to end up with.

Our Website

https://sites.google.com/site/bluewatermes/

TSME Newsletters

I have discussed how we can exchange newsletters with Geoff Kingma at TSME and since (like ours) their newsletters are available on their website, the easiest approach therefore is for me to just give the link:

https://sites.google.com/site/tsmeweb/the-modeller

Remaining Meetings this Season

2015

December 14th

2016

January 11th

February 8th

March 21st

April 11th

May 9th

June 13th